[VIDEOS] Why anti Muslim bias is so profound among Hindutva supporters?

[The Bald Eagle]

What will you accept as authentic and unbiased ?

Some report by human rights commission of India or likewise reputed organization

 

[uppercut]

Some report by human rights commission of India or likewise reputed organization

You think HR commissions have experts to conduct an independent autopsy ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You think HR commissions have experts to conduct an independent autopsy ?

They won't be biased or party to the conflict and would publish reports based on independent findings

 

[uppercut]

They won't be biased or party to the conflict and would publish reports based on independent findings

Can you tell me which country follows this process of appointing independent non-government bodies with no jurisdiction to investigate law and order issues and to conduct independent autopsies ( they dont even have such experts )?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Can you tell me which country follows this process of appointing independent non-government bodies with no jurisdiction to investigate law and order issues and to conduct independent autopsies ( they dont even have such experts )?

Isn't below link an Indian outlet reporting situation in Pakistan based on HRC Pakistan report?

https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/human-rights-commission-of-pakistan-calls-for-action-amid-escalating-violence-in-khyber-pakhtunkhwa20241001230143/

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Also one doesn't need to be an expert to see the video evidence which the media have but JUST OF PELTING.

 

[uppercut]

Isn't below link an Indian outlet reporting situation in Pakistan based on HRC Pakistan report?

https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/human-rights-commission-of-pakistan-calls-for-action-amid-escalating-violence-in-khyber-pakhtunkhwa20241001230143/

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they don't conduct or oversee any active investigation. Their involvement is always post-fact and their findings are not binding as they have no legal jurisdiction.

Also one doesn't need to be an expert to see the video evidence which the media have but JUST OF PELTING.

So you want an HR Activist to conduct a parallel autopsy or be present as an observer during the official autopsy ? IF you believe that should how it must be done ... show me some examples where this happens. Which country follows that process ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

they don't conduct or oversee any active investigation. Their involvement is always post-fact and their findings are not binding as they have no legal jurisdiction.




So you want an HR Activist to conduct a parallel autopsy or be present as an observer during the official autopsy ? IF you believe that should how it must be done ... show me some examples where this happens. Which country follows that process ?

I think we are dragging it too much, just present the visual evidence I and all would accept it without hesitation. On autopsy stuff, you should know it that police can or would manipulate it to resonate with their story as they are the primary culprits behind these killings.

 

[uppercut]

I think we are dragging it too much, just present the visual evidence I and all would accept it without hesitation. On autopsy stuff, you should know it that police can or would manipulate it to resonate with their story as they are the primary culprits behind these killings.

Thats why I asked you which authority do you trust in this matter ? You have clearly ruled out the Media, Police and Judiciary. So therefore whose words do you trust ?

BTW This is from the HRCP Website on how they work: https://hrcp-web.org/hrcpweb/our-work/

See point # 1:

• Collecting, digitising and categorising data on human rights issues reported in the press (with archives dating back to 1996).

So therefore they are also susceptible to sold-out/biased media ? If so why are you trusting them ?

do you see the problem ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Thats why I asked you which authority do you trust in this matter ? You have clearly ruled out the Media, Police and Judiciary. So therefore whose words do you trust ?

BTW This is from the HRCP Website on how they work: https://hrcp-web.org/hrcpweb/our-work/

See point # 1:

• Collecting, digitising and categorising data on human rights issues reported in the press (with archives dating back to 1996).

So therefore they are also susceptible to sold-out/biased media ? If so why are you trusting them ?

do you see the problem ?

Certainly everybody knows which media outlets are biased and which are not. Even I can tell that about Indian outlets just by reading their names. Eg Republic TV biased, NDTV a bit neutral, The wire ( among credible ones)

 

[uppercut]

Certainly everybody knows which media outlets are biased and which are not. Even I can tell that about Indian outlets just by reading their names. Eg Republic TV biased, NDTV a bit neutral, The wire ( among credible ones)

The link I gave you was from Times of India but here is the link from The Wire ( which is a well known anti-BJP media outlet )

Sambhal Violence: Police Deny Charges of Shooting Four Muslims Dead; 25 Muslims Arrested, SP MP Booked

Seven FIRs have been lodged in connection with various crimes committed during the incident. Around 2,500 persons, almost all of them unidentified, were named in these FIRs.

thewire.in

here is the tidbit about the autopsy report from that article:

"Moradabad divisional commissioner Aunjaneya Kumar Singh, however, said that the post-mortem reports of the four Muslims who were killed showed they were hit by bullets fired from country-made weapons. “We will further probe this,” said Singh, who had on Sunday tried to suggest that they were killed in cross-firing between the members of the mob which attacked the police with stones from three sides and even fired bullets at them."​

 

[The Bald Eagle]

As I said earlier, this is a statement of the same police accused of this violence reported by many indian outlets including the wire

The link I gave you was from Times of India but here is the link from The Wire ( which is a well known anti-BJP media outlet )

Sambhal Violence: Police Deny Charges of Shooting Four Muslims Dead; 25 Muslims Arrested, SP MP Booked

Seven FIRs have been lodged in connection with various crimes committed during the incident. Around 2,500 persons, almost all of them unidentified, were named in these FIRs.

thewire.in

here is the tidbit about the autopsy report from that article:

"Moradabad divisional commissioner Aunjaneya Kumar Singh, however, said that the post-mortem reports of the four Muslims who were killed showed they were hit by bullets fired from country-made weapons. “We will further probe this,” said Singh, who had on Sunday tried to suggest that they were killed in cross-firing between the members of the mob which attacked the police with stones from three sides and even fired bullets at them."​

But below is the finding and opinion of their investigative journalist

Sambhal and the Pattern of Official Narratives Without Truth

The former CJI D.Y. Chandrachud once said Hindus have every right to satisfy their curiosity about the nature of a structure. After he showed them the way, Hindu representatives have started developing curiosity across India. Muslims can resist only at the cost of their lives.

m.thewire.in

Any thoughts? @uppercut. Isn't this ironical that all media have ample video evidence of Muslims stone pelting but no evidence of them firing with these 'counyry guns'

 

[uppercut]

As I said earlier, this is a statement of the same police accused of this violence reported by many indian outlets including the wire

But below is the finding and opinion of their investigative journalist

Sambhal and the Pattern of Official Narratives Without Truth

The former CJI D.Y. Chandrachud once said Hindus have every right to satisfy their curiosity about the nature of a structure. After he showed them the way, Hindu representatives have started developing curiosity across India. Muslims can resist only at the cost of their lives.

m.thewire.in

Any thoughts? @uppercut. Isn't this ironical that all media have ample video evidence of Muslims stone pelting but no evidence of them firing with these 'counyry guns'

There is no mention about autopsy report in that article but here is the important Part from that artice

"But two days after that, without any prior information, the team reached the temple again. The administration accompanied the mob and allowed it to reach the mosque. Some people accompanying the survey team allegedly let out ‘Jai Shri Ram’ chants on their way out. It agitated the local Muslims. Stones were thrown. The police were captured on video, appearing to fire directly at the agitating crowd. Four men were killed."

So why throw stones at police? Is this how civilized people operate?

And where is the video of police firing on the stone pelters?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

There is no mention about autopsy report in that article but here is the important Part from that artice

"But two days after that, without any prior information, the team reached the temple again. The administration accompanied the mob and allowed it to reach the mosque. Some people accompanying the survey team allegedly let out ‘Jai Shri Ram’ chants on their way out. It agitated the local Muslims. Stones were thrown. The police were captured on video, appearing to fire directly at the agitating crowd. Four men were killed."

So why throw stones at police? Is this how civilized people operate?

And where is the video of police firing on the stone pelters?

Lol...the answer lies in your own post. Literally a sentence ahead of what you highlighted in your post.

 

[uppercut]

Lol...the answer lies in your own post. Literally a sentence ahead of what you highlighted in your post.

good .. so throwing stones at anyone Chanting Jai Shri Ram is fine according to You ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

good .. so throwing stones at anyone Chanting Jai Shri Ram is fine according to You ?

It's not as a big crime that deserves a live bullet to claim that person life. Or do you think so. Even football fans sometimes hit players with pighead so how should they be treated?

 

[HalBass9]

Lol...the answer lies in your own post. Literally a sentence ahead of what you highlighted in your post.

Bro, this isn’t a debate. The person you’re engaging with is simply looking for any excuse to justify the killing of Muslims.

You’re wasting your time, they’ve revealed their true stance multiple times.

 

[uppercut]

It's not as a big crime that deserves a live bullet to claim that person life.
Or do you think so. Even football fans sometimes hit players with pighead so how should they be treated?

Well The question of live bullets can only be settled from the autopsy report. So show me a media report that validates your claim.

But the stone throwing is important in the context of determining when the escalation happened and which party was responsible for the escalation since you are blaming everyone other than Muslims for the loss of lives.

So why did Muslims resort to violence ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Well The question of live bullets can only be settled from the autopsy report. So show me a media report that validates your claim.

But the stone throwing is important in the context of determining when the escalation happened and which party was responsible for the escalation since you are blaming everyone other than Muslims for the loss of lives.

So why did Muslims resort to violence ?

Indians right wingers these have been laying claim on every other mosque so how should Muslims react by offering them all with beaming smile on faces. Ofcourse they would protest. When you are the 7th largest country, you don't fight for petty places just to build temples when you already have enough spaces.

Why these fights not occur in Spain, Or Eastern Europe with such intensity although they remained under Muslim rule too?

Also yet to see any VISUAL Evidence of Muslims shooting, please reproduce that I won't disturb you again. About purported autopsy report, even if we accept it to be true how does it make Muslims the culprits?

 

[uppercut]

Bro, this isn’t a debate. The person you’re engaging with is simply looking for any excuse to justify the killing of Muslims.

You’re wasting your time, they’ve revealed their true stance multiple times.

Yeah such a innocent community that ONLY RESORTS to throwing bricks at police and using country made pistols ... breaking cctv cameras Etc. Sounds like very peace loving people. How dare the EVIL police use force. Forget this .. you guys didnt see much wrong in what Hamas did on Oct 7th.

Quite remarkable how the muslim victim mentality works ! The ENTIRE FRIGGIN WORLD IS ROGUE AND EVIL ( EXCEPT FOR MUSLIMS ) . Such a disgrace for humanity.

 

[uppercut]

Indians right wingers these have been laying claim on every other mosque so how should Muslims react by offering them all with beaming smile on faces. Ofcourse they would protest. When you are the 7th largest country, you don't fight for petty places just to build temples when you already have enough spaces.

Conversely you expect Hindus to just pretend that their Holy places were NOT DESTROYED ?

Why these fights not occur in Spain, Or Eastern Europe with such intensity although they remained under Muslim rule too?

Which sacred Church in Spain was destroyed and a Mosque built on it ? Infact Spain booted out all Muslims a long time ago for lesser reasons.

Also yet to see any VISUAL Evidence of Muslims shooting, please reproduce that I won't disturb you again. About purported autopsy report, even if we accept it to be true how does it make Muslims the culprits?

Which source will you accept ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Which source will you accept ?

Any visual or video related to this event in which it could be clearly seen that Muslims were firing from "country made" guns at police first. Also if CCTVs were already destroyed as you claimed above then from where the pelting video came from??? Does Cameras went dysfunctional before they pick up pistols or other ammunitions?

 

[HalBass9]

Yeah such a innocent community that ONLY RESORTS to throwing bricks at police and using country made pistols ... breaking cctv cameras Etc. Sounds like very peace loving people. How dare the EVIL police use force. Forget this .. you guys didnt see much wrong in what Hamas did on Oct 7th.

Quite remarkable how the muslim victim mentality works ! The ENTIRE FRIGGIN WORLD IS ROGUE AND EVIL ( EXCEPT FOR MUSLIMS ) . Such a disgrace for humanity.

Oh, bravo, lone warrior. Truly, your unmatched dedication is an inspiration to every Muskim hating Hindutva (all Hindutva want Muslims dead). Any minute now, the universe will surely bestow upon you the highest of the highest honors. Really, keep at it, you’re so close.

Jai Hindutva!

 

[uppercut]

Any visual or video related to this event in which it could be clearly seen that Muslims were firing from "country made" guns at police first. Also if CCTVs were already destroyed as you claim above then from where the pelting video came??? Does Cameras went dysfunctional before they pick up pistols or other ammunitions?

The police have recovered the DVR recordings prior to the cameras being destroyed. There is still significant evidence that is being processed by the police. It will take time for all facts to emerge. But so far from what evidence has been disclosed we can clearly see that muslims resorted to violence because someone shouted Jai Shri Ram.

Any visual or video related to this event in which it could be clearly seen that Muslims were firing from "country made" guns at police first. Also if CCTVs were already destroyed as you claimed above then from where the pelting video came from??? Does Cameras went dysfunctional before they pick up pistols or other ammunitions?

I have linked the video with timestamp where they show the image captured from CCTV recordings below

and what evidence do you have that the people were killed in police shooting ? Simple common sense says that if police had opened fire the casualty figures would be a lot higher due to the sheer numbers. Many media reports are saying that the autopsy reports indicate that the victims were shot using country pistols. Do you dispute that

 

[Champ_Pal]

The police have recovered the DVR recordings prior to the cameras being destroyed. There is still significant evidence that is being processed by the police. It will take time for all facts to emerge. But so far from what evidence has been disclosed we can clearly see that muslims resorted to violence because someone shouted Jai Shri Ram.




I have linked the video with timestamp where they show the image captured from CCTV recordings below

and what evidence do you have that the people were killed in police shooting ? Simple common sense says that if police had opened fire the casualty figures would be a lot higher due to the sheer numbers. Many media reports are saying that the autopsy reports indicate that the victims were shot using country pistols. Do you dispute that

very peaceful people.

Most of these riots are organized and these rioters are paid by Samajwadi party MLA’s.

They pelt stones, shoot at innocents in between some innocent Muslims.

All of these riots are orchestrated. No one can mobilize hundreds of people in a matter of minutes. All pre planned.

 

[uppercut]

very peaceful people.

Most of these riots are organized and these rioters are paid by Samajwadi party MLA’s.

They pelt stones, shoot at innocents in between some innocent Muslims.

All of these riots are orchestrated. No one can mobilize hundreds of people in a matter of minutes. All pre planned.

yep but doesnt stop even the most educated and internet savvy people to dig in their heels and try to bat for the rogue elements who can clearly be seen indulging in violence and try to lay blame everywhere else except for the Muslims.

 

[uppercut]

Any visual or video related to this event in which it could be clearly seen that Muslims were firing from "country made" guns at police first. Also if CCTVs were already destroyed as you claimed above then from where the pelting video came from??? Does Cameras went dysfunctional before they pick up pistols or other ammunitions?

One more from a different media it has footage of Cops injured, captured arms from culprits etc :

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indians right wingers these have been laying claim on every other mosque so how should Muslims react by offering them all with beaming smile on faces. Ofcourse they would protest. When you are the 7th largest country, you don't fight for petty places just to build temples when you already have enough spaces.

Why these fights not occur in Spain, Or Eastern Europe with such intensity although they remained under Muslim rule too?

Also yet to see any VISUAL Evidence of Muslims shooting, please reproduce that I won't disturb you again. About purported autopsy report, even if we accept it to be true how does it make Muslims the culprits?

FYI Greece converted every mosque that was once a church back to a church.

Spain literally wiped out their Islamic history and threw out Muslims from Spain.

Just like Muslims had a claim to a separate country, Hindus have a claim to their temples. Muslims got two countries, Hindus will take their temples.

Muslims attacked the police force with stones. Police defended themselves. The mob even fired bullets from country made pistols. Hitting some of their own.

 

[SM1989]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1862525135321751932

What a vile group of people! A curse to humanity

 

[The Bald Eagle]

One more from a different media it has footage of Cops injured, captured arms from culprits etc :

FYI Greece converted every mosque that was once a church back to a church.

Spain literally wiped out their Islamic history and threw out Muslims from Spain.

Just like Muslims had a claim to a separate country, Hindus have a claim to their temples. Muslims got two countries, Hindus will take their temples.

Muslims attacked the police force with stones. Police defended themselves. The mob even fired bullets from country made pistols. Hitting some of their own.

I just made a little search and came across this one of the viral clip in India which you guys it appear deliberately not mentioned. In this a police man could be clearing seen FIRING STRAIGHT BULLETs and asking other to do the same.

How would you guys explain this? @uppercut in previous post of your a blurred image of a protester purportedly holding gun could be seen. So for argument sake I accept that that man had gun but about the police guy in this VIDEO not blurred image firing straight fires instead of aerial shots? Was these policemen there to disperse masses or to KILL them?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1862525135321751932

What a vile group of people! A curse to humanity

So tragic incident but posters here could write essay about this meat "HURTING" Hindus feelings rather than condemning the loss of precious humans on basis of just suspicion. Even if it's cow meat then what's the big deal, does Cow meat is banned in whole of India?. Or does this act only tramples their "FEELINGS" in India but not elsewhere in the world.

 

[sweep_shot]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1862525135321751932

What a vile group of people! A curse to humanity

Scumbags.

Attacking an elderly. Bunch of cowards.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I just made a little search and came across this one of the viral clip in India which you guys it appear deliberately not mentioned. In this a police man could be clearing seen FIRING STRAIGHT BULLETs and asking other to do the same.

How would you guys explain this? @uppercut in previous post of your a blurred image of a protester purportedly holding gun could be seen. So for argument sake I accept that that man had gun but about the police guy in this VIDEO not blurred image firing straight fires instead of aerial shots? Was these policemen there to disperse masses or to KILL them?

What's the authenticity of this clip?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

What's the authenticity of this clip?

Are you serious, just wait I shall fetch you the proof. Lol this clip has been made by some indian

 

[The Bald Eagle]

What's the authenticity of this clip?

Lol ... Any more excuse now?

 

[HalBass9]

FYI Greece converted every mosque that was once a church back to a church.

Spain literally wiped out their Islamic history and threw out Muslims from Spain.

Just like Muslims had a claim to a separate country, Hindus have a claim to their temples. Muslims got two countries, Hindus will take their temples.

Muslims attacked the police force with stones. Police defended themselves. The mob even fired bullets from country made pistols. Hitting some of their own.

Don't talk about other countries

 

[cricketjoshila]

Don't talk about other countries

Why are you talking about India?

Anyways it was another poster who talked about Spain and Greece.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol ... Any more excuse now?

Did you even watch the video?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Did you even watch the video?

Watch it from 58 seconds to 1:24 seconds. Which video is he referring too? Ofcourse the one which I shared as you can watch that too.

 

[uppercut]

Watch it from 58 seconds to 1:24 seconds. Which video is he referring too? Ofcourse the one which I shared as you can watch that too.

So just to be clear ... you are now suddenly trusting the Indian Law enforcement authorities ?

Before I respond please Confirm and answer that question with a simple and clear Yes/No.

 

[Hitman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1863158406896361527

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1863158406896361527

Well no wonder hindutvas have anti-Muslim bias. This story of attempted rape of a minor by a Muslim clearly reflects on the whole community.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

So just to be clear ... you are now suddenly trusting the Indian Law enforcement authorities ?

Before I respond please Confirm and answer that question with a simple and clear Yes/No.

I trust the objective evidences, so I trust the VIDEO evidence that I shared in post 2411

 

[JaDed]

There are so many Indian threads on first page of TP of Pakpassion don’t know which one to respond to?

Looks like only India has issue and the Babylon on the borders must be heaven.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

There are so many Indian threads on first page of TP of Pakpassion don’t know which one to respond to?

Looks like only India has issue and the Babylon on the borders must be heaven.

Lol because India has a bad habit of poking nose everywhere.

 

[JaDed]

Lol because India has a bad habit of poking nose everywhere.

India or Indians? Because GOI since 1991 actually has done well on every front, I understand you guys will say South Asian region but India has resolved issue with Maldives, China, Lanka, Maldives.
Nepal and Bhutan have open borders with us.
This is the best relationship we have had with Gulf since 50s and Europe too.

Our issue only remains East and West Pakistan and both those countries have issues with their neighbours literally with violence.

 

[JaDed]

Keyboard Indian warriors are annoying I agree but GOI has actually been so much saner thank God.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

India or Indians? Because GOI since 1991 actually has done well on every front, I understand you guys will say South Asian region but India has resolved issue with Maldives, China, Lanka, Maldives.
Nepal and Bhutan have open borders with us.
This is the best relationship we have had with Gulf since 50s and Europe too.

Our issue only remains East and West Pakistan and both those countries have issues with their neighbours literally with violence.

You forgot about Canada mate.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Keyboard Indian warriors are annoying I agree but GOI has actually been so much saner thank God.

True but pre Modi era

 

[JaDed]

You forgot about Canada mate.

Google Canada foreign relations and you will have your answer;

1. Issues with Iran
2. Issues with Saudi(major diplomatic issue)
3. Issues with China(major diplomatic issue)
4. Issues with Russia
5. Issues with India(major diplomatic issue)

And now Issues with Trump lol, if one country has issues with so many countries in last 4 years, I would blame that country not India.

 

[JaDed]

True but pre Modi era

Not really, since 2014 Indians have had better relationships more easier visa conditions to countries etc etc.

 

[uppercut]

I trust the objective evidences, so I trust the VIDEO evidence that I shared in post 2411

But its coming from a Indian gov official. So do you trust that official? Simple yes/no pls.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There are so many Indian threads on first page of TP of Pakpassion don’t know which one to respond to?

Looks like only India has issue and the Babylon on the borders must be heaven.

You are feigning ignorance of the dynamics of India Pakistan relations. You praise your own govt as if they are innocent and only east and west neighbours are the problem, but the Indian govt attempts to damage Pakistan through any sphere possible is revealed with their sports policy. Indian govt clearly has spelled out Pakistan is an eternal enemy. Even support for Bangladesh was based on splitting Pakistan asunder, once that happened, only useful as long as they followed India's national interests.

If you don't want hostility, then lead the way with some attempts to lead peaceful return to normalcy. Even Zia ul Haq managed to do that when he professed sport could be the glue that brought nations together.

 

[JaDed]

You are feigning ignorance of the dynamics of India Pakistan relations. You praise your own govt as if they are innocent and only east and west neighbours are the problem, but the Indian govt attempts to damage Pakistan through any sphere possible is revealed with their sports policy. Indian govt clearly has spelled out Pakistan is an eternal enemy. Even support for Bangladesh was based on splitting Pakistan asunder, once that happened, only useful as long as they followed India's national interests.

If you don't want hostility, then lead the way with some attempts to lead peaceful return to normalcy. Even Zia ul Haq managed to do that when he professed sport could be the glue that brought nations together.

Ok sir peaceful Captain , once your Establishment starts being peaceful to your own people then we can talk about peace between the two nations.
For now the only peaceful leader of Pakistan is behind bars forever.

 

[uppercut]

You are feigning ignorance of the dynamics of India Pakistan relations. You praise your own govt as if they are innocent and only east and west neighbours are the problem, but the Indian govt attempts to damage Pakistan through any sphere possible is revealed with their sports policy. Indian govt clearly has spelled out Pakistan is an eternal enemy. Even support for Bangladesh was based on splitting Pakistan asunder, once that happened, only useful as long as they followed India's national interests.

If you don't want hostility, then lead the way with some attempts to lead peaceful return to normalcy. Even Zia ul Haq managed to do that when he professed sport could be the glue that brought nations together.

yeah I suppose the 4 open wars initiated by Pakistan + countless acts of terror, providing open safe haven for numerous vermins such as Dawood, Masood, Hafeez etc etc etc were just mere acts of a innocent harmless Dove and are insignificant events that do not merit such a hostile posture I suppose ?

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[Itachi]

When someone has issues with you, then may be one or the other or both are guilty of something.

When everyone have problems with you, may be do self revaluation and retrospection than getting in to victim mentality of "why they hate us?"

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol because India has a bad habit of poking nose everywhere.

Where? Sambhal is in which country? Delhi? Gujarat? Ayodhya? In which country?

 

[cricketjoshila]

You are feigning ignorance of the dynamics of India Pakistan relations. You praise your own govt as if they are innocent and only east and west neighbours are the problem, but the Indian govt attempts to damage Pakistan through any sphere possible is revealed with their sports policy. Indian govt clearly has spelled out Pakistan is an eternal enemy. Even support for Bangladesh was based on splitting Pakistan asunder, once that happened, only useful as long as they followed India's national interests.

If you don't want hostility, then lead the way with some attempts to lead peaceful return to normalcy. Even Zia ul Haq managed to do that when he professed sport could be the glue that brought nations together.

India has closed the door to any negotiations with pakistan.

Pakistan should go on its own way. No one is stopping them.

 

[uppercut]

When someone has issues with you, then may be one or the other or both are guilty of something.

When everyone have problems with you, may be do self revaluation and retrospection than getting in to victim mentality of "why they hate us?"

Naaah wrong answer .... thats too complicated for simpletons to understand ... here is how it works :

There is never ever ever any problem with us afterall we are the "Chosen ones". Therefore EVERYONE who has issues with us is wrong. Thats the correct answer.

 

[sweep_shot]

yeah I suppose the 4 open wars initiated by Pakistan + countless acts of terror, providing open safe haven for numerous vermins such as Dawood, Masood, Hafeez etc etc etc were just mere acts of a innocent harmless Dove and are insignificant events that do not merit such a hostile posture I suppose ?
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You are the same guy who refused to condemn Indian cow vigilante mobs. You seem to support mob justice which is a shocking thing to support in 21st century.

 

[uppercut]

You are the same guy who refused to condemn Indian cow vigilante mobs. You seem to support mob justice which is a shocking thing to support in 21st century.

Ohh yeah ? is that why you are running away from answering a very simple question on that topic ?

Here it is again for like the 10th time or so:

"Why are Muslims still harming cows in India despite being well aware that a cow is very sacred to Hindus" ?

I suppose now is the right time for you to run or pretend that you have answered that question ?

 

[Hitman]

Ohh yeah ? is that why you are running away from answering a very simple question on that topic ?

Here it is again for like the 10th time or so:

"Why are Muslims still harming cows in India despite being well aware that a cow is very sacred to Hindus" ?

I suppose now is the right time for you to run or pretend that you have answered that question ?

The appropiate question should be -

"Why are Muslims still harming cows in India despite being well aware that it's illegal?"

I understand they have nothing to do with the emotions of Hindus which they don't care but being citizens of India, they are supposed to abide by the law.

 

[uppercut]

The appropiate question should be -

"Why are Muslims still harming cows in India despite being well aware that it's illegal?"

I understand they have nothing to do with the emotions of Hindus which they don't care but being citizens of India, they are supposed to abide by the law.

for the sake of discussion I'am willing to pretend that it is not illegal. I want to see how the jokers dance around that question. Wait and watch. Its been nearly 6 months since I asked that question here on this thread and not one single Pakistani poster has dared to answer it ... which in itself tells the story. But who knows today might be my lucky day.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

When someone has issues with you, then may be one or the other or both are guilty of something.

When everyone have problems with you, may be do self revaluation and retrospection than getting in to victim mentality of "why they hate us?"

There are countries from all over the world willing to take part in cricket tournaments other than India. I guess they don't have victim mentality.

Poltically China seems to be one country which is working to overcome any issues to build trade routes which benefit both themselves and Pakistan. I guess they don't have victim mentality like other budding superpower neighbours.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Where? Sambhal is in which country? Delhi? Gujarat? Ayodhya? In which country?

Canada, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nepal also part of India, right?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

India has closed the door to any negotiations with pakistan.

Pakistan should go on its own way. No one is stopping them.

Thank you. This is an honest answer.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Canada, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nepal also part of India, right?

Afghans are praising India for their humanitarian work.

Lankan government thanked India for billions in aid during their bankruptcy.

Maldives just received millions in aid from India after their president came to India and asked for help.

Nepal? They have a open border with India. Except the communists there, all other political parties are pro India. The madhesis who make up 40 per cent of Nepalese population are extremely pro India.

Has India intervened in BD? BD is very dependent on India for imports. If Modi government seals the border, BD economy will go for a toss.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Afghans are praising India for their humanitarian work.

Lankan government thanked India for billions in aid during their bankruptcy.

Maldives just received millions in aid from India after their president came to India and asked for help.

Nepal? They have a open border with India. Except the communists there, all other political parties are pro India. The madhesis who make up 40 per cent of Nepalese population are extremely pro India.

Has India intervened in BD? BD is very dependent on India for imports. If Modi government seals the border, BD economy will go for a toss.

Lol you were slyly skipped Canada and other points you made are just one side of the coin. Again you guys just highlight those facts that fit your narrative. And also I haven't mentioned China yet, the next superpower contender.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

But its coming from a Indian gov official. So do you trust that official? Simple yes/no pls.

NO, I don't trust them but just objective evidences

 

[guard]

You are diluting your own argument by referring to the UN or any other outside organisation. As @Technics 1210 has rightfully pointed out, Modi was banned from those same western nations because they believed there was enough independent evidence he was complicit in mass slaughter of minorities in Gujarat 2001.

Your earlier posts where you refer to Muslims as a whole as terrorists and a massive problem for Hindus in India is more honest and that doesn't implicate Modi's own bloodthirsty legacy. Stick to that.

Agenda sells

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol you were slyly skipped Canada and other points you made are just one side of the coin. Again you guys just highlight those facts that fit your narrative. And also I haven't mentioned China yet, the next superpower contender.

Canada? There is an entire thread on it.

China and India are reconciling. Russia played its role in this. Read about the latest troop withdrawals and agreement.

 

[HalBass9]

When someone has issues with you, then may be one or the other or both are guilty of something.

When everyone have problems with you, may be do self revaluation and retrospection than getting in to victim mentality of "why they hate us?"

Grandiloquent

Hindutva embraced it as though it was a profound statement, but as we know, Hindutva tends to accept anything that shifts focus away from portraying them as a violent group with animosity toward Muslims.

Creating a show with meaningless words, lol.

 

[Technics 1210]

The term Hindutva is now seen as a derogatory and terrorist term, and is used to insult honest Hindus around the world.

All the British born Hindus I know of my generation, refuse to even recognise this backward terrorist cult. They refuse to don anything Saffron and despise the religious terrorist - Modi.

They all said the same in 2023, India lost the WC final because of Modi and his cult, and India has now become a dump.

It is refreshing to hear the views of the British born instead of the ILR/VISA pending Indians.

 

[uppercut]

NO, I don't trust them but just objective evidences

You mean you will selectively pick and choose things that suit you even if they are all from the same source?

 

[Itachi]

Grandiloquent

Hindutva embraced it as though it was a profound statement, but as we know, Hindutva tends to accept anything that shifts focus away from portraying them as a violent group with animosity toward Muslims.

Creating a show with meaningless words, lol.

I don't see how your post had anything to do with what I wrote.

 

[Itachi]

NO, I don't trust them but just objective evidences

Objective evidences often are represented by subjective interpretation.

 

[HalBass9]

Objective evidences often are represented by subjective interpretation.

You need to revisit the understanding of “objective”.

 

[Itachi]

You need to revisit the understanding of “objective”.

Exactly that's the point. Objectivity can be interpreted in different manner as a result of which you HAD to ask me to revisit to coincide with that of yours.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Objective evidences often are represented by subjective interpretation.

Yes, I remember how you did this with same stats that I shared in this thread some months ago.

 

[Itachi]

Yes, I remember how you did this with same stats that I shared in this thread some months ago.

There is nothing called objective reality. We all biased one way or the other
Everything is relative in this world. People come to different conclusion based upon what perspective they want to see.

 

[FearlessRoar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1864341086686019957