[VIDEOS] Why anti Muslim bias is so profound among Hindutva supporters?

[The Bald Eagle]

Everyone except Modi lovers know the truth​

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Followed attacks on minorities in India with concern, broached issue with Modi: Angela Merkel in memoirs​

Angela Merkel was “concerned” about the rise of “Hindu nationalists” in India, the former German Chancellor writes in her memoirs, where she disputes Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s denial that religious intolerance increased since 2014. The references to India in her recently released 600-page autobiography entitled Freedom: Memoirs 1954-2021, focus on her relations with two Prime Ministers, Manmohan Singh and Mr. Modi, with whom her tenure in office (2005-2021) overlapped. She has also referred to the growth of the Indian economy and its importance in countering climate change, subjects that Ms. Merkel took a particular interest in.

By coincidence, the Merkel memoirs have been released even as another book on India, by Germany’s former Ambassador to India Walter Lindner, also expresses similar concerns about communal polarisation in the country, covering more closely political developments during his years in Delhi (2019-2022), as well as India’s sustained ties with Russia after the invasion of Ukraine. In What the West Should Learn from India, Mr. Lindner writes about his first visit to the country as a backpacker and musician in the 1970s, and study of Indian spirituality, as well as his more recent diplomatic tenure.

The many shades of intolerance

In her book, Ms. Merkel writes about her encounters with Mr. Modi, who impressed her with “visual effects” at an event at the Hanover Messe where he pitched for investment in India, introducing the three-dimensional “Make In India” lion that was akin to Mr. Modi’s holograms that he had used during his 2014 election campaign.

“I followed with concern the reports that, since Modi had taken office, an increasing number of members of other religions, predominantly Muslims and Christians, were being attacked by Hindu nationalists,” Ms. Merkel continues in her memoirs, adding that when she broached the subject, Mr. Modi “vehemently denied it and emphasised that India was and would remain a country of religious tolerance”.

Ms. Merkel makes it clear she did not accept the response. “Unfortunately, the facts said otherwise. We were unable to agree on this point. My worries remained — religious freedom is, after all, a key component of every democracy,” she writes, in the chapter Serving Germany on her meetings with world leaders. Ms. Merkel also writes about her interactions with Dr. Singh, along with whom she launched the bi-annual India and Germany intergovernmental consultations. She said Dr. Singh had told her about India’s cultural and linguistic differences, adding that “the country’s unity arises from its diversity”, and comparing it to the “European Union as a whole than with one of its member states”.

Comparing the two Prime Ministers, Ms. Merkel writes that both focused on the Indian economy, improving living standards for poorer people, and climate justice.

Source: The Hindu

 

[BouncerGuy]

Muslim couple forced to sell house after protests by Hindu residents

A Muslim couple in India have been hounded out of their newly-purchased home by their Hindu neighbours who said they would not allow them to live there because of their religion.

Hindu residents of the posh TDI City – an upscale residential bloc in the northern city of Moradabad – began protesting on Tuesday night after news of the sale became public.

A video from the protest that has gone viral shows one of the residents Megha Arora saying that Dr Ashok Bajaj, a resident, had sold his house to a Muslim family without consulting them.

"We cannot tolerate a Muslim family living right in front of our local temple. This is also a question of the safety of our women," she said.

"We want the sale to be revoked and are asking the administration to cancel the registration of the house in the name of its new owners. We cannot allow people from another faith to come and live here. We will not allow them to enter and continue to protest as long as they don't go away," she added.

Many of the residents also visited the district magistrate's office to lodge a complaint. Outside, they shouted slogans against Dr Bajaj and the Muslim couple.

The protests have had their intended effect. On Friday, Dr Bajaj told the BBC that a resolution, mediated by the city's elected representative, had been reached and the new Muslim owners would re-sell the house to a Hindu family already living in the housing society.

Dr Bajaj, who runs an eye hospital in the city and had lived in the society for more than six years, said he had sold the house to the Muslim couple who are both doctors and that their families had known each other for 40 years. The Muslim couple, he said, were no longer comfortable moving into the house.

He added that the furore over the sale was "uncalled for" and that he had not expected it to become national news.

The protest started after he introduced the Muslim couple to his neighbours as a gesture of goodwill.

The backlash to the sale of the house, he said, "has come out of nowhere" as there are other Muslim families already living in the colony and that "we had always had a good rapport with our neighbours".

"The controversy is changing the fabric of the city. Our intention was not to create any kind of unrest with this transaction," he said, adding that "there is no law" against this transaction.

The colony also did not have a residents' association that would need to approve the sale, he said. "Now they have woken up to make it."

This is not the first time Muslim residents have faced backlash in Moradabad for buying homes in a Hindu-majority area. In 2021, residents and Hindu hardline organisations had protested after two Muslim families had purchased houses from Hindus.

Segregated living has existed in rural India for a long time where different castes and religions lived apart. The urban centres were meant to be the melting pots where people could live together, irrespective of their differences. However, in reality, many urban areas continue to experience segregation.

Discrimination against minority communities, especially Muslims, is common in many Indian cities where many housing societies insist on food habits such as vegetarianism to keep them out.

Muslims in states like Gujarat and Maharashtra have often said they are unable to buy or rent homes in Hindu neighbourhoods. A few years ago, a Bollywood actor Emraan Hashmi had made headlines for alleging he was refused a flat in Mumbai because of his Muslim faith.

Tanvir Aeijaz, professor of politics and public policy at Delhi University, says denying the Muslim couple the choice to buy the house they wanted is "discriminatory and completely unconstitutional".

"It's a violation of their fundamental and legal rights. This is a violation of a person's right to equality and freedom and if such cases increase, they endanger the constitution of India."

Prof Aeijaz says there are special rights to protect Dalits (formerly known as untouchables) and women who are considered vulnerable groups, "but how come there are no rights to protect Muslims who are the most vulnerable group in India"? he asks.

This incident has also resulted in a huge outrage in India with many taking to social media to express their anger.

"Welcome to #NewIndia," comedian Akash Banerjee wrote on X, formerly Twitter. "A doctor sold his house to a fellow doctor… Why on earth would that lead to a massive protest/uproar in a posh housing society in Moradabad?" he asked.

"As a nation we always boast about unity in diversity. We should be ashamed about these incidents," wrote John Brittas, an MP from the Communist Party of India (Marxist).

Those protesting against the couple "were not nameless, faceless individuals", another user wrote on X. "They were people unafraid and unashamed of publicly displaying their bigotry and lsIamophobia."

Critics say incidents of violence and discrimination against India's Muslim community have grown in the past decade under the Hindu nationalist government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Anti-Muslim hate speech incidents have surged, with a majority reported from states ruled by the BJP – Moradabad is also located in the BJP-ruled Uttar Pradesh. The BJP has consistently denied these claims.

Prof Aeijaz says the incident in Moradabad "shows that religious polarisation has sunk in, that it's working at the ground level".

But, he says he feels hopeful that things will change for the better.

"Hinduism is based on pluralism. Most people I meet understand that hate is against their religion. And that gives me hope."

BBC

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What an awful story. Can't imagine how a Muslim resident in India can be a patriot knowing this sort of bigotry is rife amongst the majority religion. There used to be a time when Indian Muslims were proud Indians, I think that must have dwindled to a very small minority now.

 

[uppercut]

What an awful story. Can't imagine how a Muslim resident in India can be a patriot knowing this sort of bigotry is rife amongst the majority religion. There used to be a time when Indian Muslims were proud Indians, I think that must have dwindled to a very small minority now.

I will tell you EXACTLY why with bare facts .... but do you want to see ?

 

[sweep_shot]

Muslim couple forced to sell house after protests by Hindu residents

A Muslim couple in India have been hounded out of their newly-purchased home by their Hindu neighbours who said they would not allow them to live there because of their religion.

Hindu residents of the posh TDI City – an upscale residential bloc in the northern city of Moradabad – began protesting on Tuesday night after news of the sale became public.

A video from the protest that has gone viral shows one of the residents Megha Arora saying that Dr Ashok Bajaj, a resident, had sold his house to a Muslim family without consulting them.

"We cannot tolerate a Muslim family living right in front of our local temple. This is also a question of the safety of our women," she said.

"We want the sale to be revoked and are asking the administration to cancel the registration of the house in the name of its new owners. We cannot allow people from another faith to come and live here. We will not allow them to enter and continue to protest as long as they don't go away," she added.

Many of the residents also visited the district magistrate's office to lodge a complaint. Outside, they shouted slogans against Dr Bajaj and the Muslim couple.

The protests have had their intended effect. On Friday, Dr Bajaj told the BBC that a resolution, mediated by the city's elected representative, had been reached and the new Muslim owners would re-sell the house to a Hindu family already living in the housing society.

Dr Bajaj, who runs an eye hospital in the city and had lived in the society for more than six years, said he had sold the house to the Muslim couple who are both doctors and that their families had known each other for 40 years. The Muslim couple, he said, were no longer comfortable moving into the house.

He added that the furore over the sale was "uncalled for" and that he had not expected it to become national news.

The protest started after he introduced the Muslim couple to his neighbours as a gesture of goodwill.

The backlash to the sale of the house, he said, "has come out of nowhere" as there are other Muslim families already living in the colony and that "we had always had a good rapport with our neighbours".

"The controversy is changing the fabric of the city. Our intention was not to create any kind of unrest with this transaction," he said, adding that "there is no law" against this transaction.

The colony also did not have a residents' association that would need to approve the sale, he said. "Now they have woken up to make it."

This is not the first time Muslim residents have faced backlash in Moradabad for buying homes in a Hindu-majority area. In 2021, residents and Hindu hardline organisations had protested after two Muslim families had purchased houses from Hindus.

Segregated living has existed in rural India for a long time where different castes and religions lived apart. The urban centres were meant to be the melting pots where people could live together, irrespective of their differences. However, in reality, many urban areas continue to experience segregation.

Discrimination against minority communities, especially Muslims, is common in many Indian cities where many housing societies insist on food habits such as vegetarianism to keep them out.

Muslims in states like Gujarat and Maharashtra have often said they are unable to buy or rent homes in Hindu neighbourhoods. A few years ago, a Bollywood actor Emraan Hashmi had made headlines for alleging he was refused a flat in Mumbai because of his Muslim faith.

Tanvir Aeijaz, professor of politics and public policy at Delhi University, says denying the Muslim couple the choice to buy the house they wanted is "discriminatory and completely unconstitutional".

"It's a violation of their fundamental and legal rights. This is a violation of a person's right to equality and freedom and if such cases increase, they endanger the constitution of India."

Prof Aeijaz says there are special rights to protect Dalits (formerly known as untouchables) and women who are considered vulnerable groups, "but how come there are no rights to protect Muslims who are the most vulnerable group in India"? he asks.

This incident has also resulted in a huge outrage in India with many taking to social media to express their anger.

"Welcome to #NewIndia," comedian Akash Banerjee wrote on X, formerly Twitter. "A doctor sold his house to a fellow doctor… Why on earth would that lead to a massive protest/uproar in a posh housing society in Moradabad?" he asked.

"As a nation we always boast about unity in diversity. We should be ashamed about these incidents," wrote John Brittas, an MP from the Communist Party of India (Marxist).

Those protesting against the couple "were not nameless, faceless individuals", another user wrote on X. "They were people unafraid and unashamed of publicly displaying their bigotry and lsIamophobia."

Critics say incidents of violence and discrimination against India's Muslim community have grown in the past decade under the Hindu nationalist government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Anti-Muslim hate speech incidents have surged, with a majority reported from states ruled by the BJP – Moradabad is also located in the BJP-ruled Uttar Pradesh. The BJP has consistently denied these claims.

Prof Aeijaz says the incident in Moradabad "shows that religious polarisation has sunk in, that it's working at the ground level".

But, he says he feels hopeful that things will change for the better.

"Hinduism is based on pluralism. Most people I meet understand that hate is against their religion. And that gives me hope."

BBC

Where are the BJP posters now? Will they condemn this?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I will tell you EXACTLY why with bare facts .... but do you want to see ?

@uppercut, do you still have justification for such bigots??? Who hate some persons JUST because of their religious identity.

 

[uppercut]

@uppercut, do you still have justification for such bigots??? Who hate some persons JUST because of their religious identity.

unlike posters like sweep_shot I will give you straight/blunt answers ( you will not like them but they are factually correct ) provided that you do the same when I ask you pointed questions. Fair ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

unlike posters like sweep_shot I will give you straight/blunt answers ( you will not like them ) provided that you do the same when I ask you pointed questions. Fair ?

Ok remaining in decorum, we can debate

 

[uppercut]

Ok remaining in decorum, we can debate

I will tell you EXACTLY why with bare facts .... but do you want to see ?

@uppercut, do you still have justification for such bigots??? Who hate some persons JUST because of their religious identity.

never but look at it this way:

do you ever wonder why do such things almost never happen with Christians, Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists, Parsis etc etc ? Why only with Muslims ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You may not like it but I think all this hatred is result of the fact that Hindus were once subjects of Muslim empire for a millennium and now some politicans are exploiting this smouldering sentiments by suggesting that Muslims must be ultra submissive to them and shouldn't even complain no matter what goes on.

But for a moment, please ponder over it why the current generation pay the baggage or carry it for the ones long dead.

never but look at it this way:

do you ever wonder why do such things almost never happen with Christians, Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists, Parsis etc etc ? Why only with Muslims ?

 

[uppercut]

You may not like it but I think all this hatred is result of the fact that Hindus were once subjects of Muslim empire for a millennium and now some politicans are exploiting this smouldering sentiments by suggesting that Muslims must be ultra submissive to them and shouldn't even complain no matter what goes on.

But for a moment, please ponder over it why the current generation pay the baggage or carry it for the ones long dead.

I have already answered this earlier .... the british and portugese ( in Goa ) were Christian rulers ... so why are the Christians not experiencing the same level of hatred ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I have already answered this earlier .... the british and portugese ( in Goa ) were Christian rulers ... so why are the Christians not experiencing the same level of hatred ?

Because they preferred Indian Hindus over Muslims and suppressed the Muslim might infact put them against the wall.

 

[uppercut]

Because they preferred Indian Hindus over Muslims

why would the Christians prefer Hindus over Muslims ?

and suppressed the Muslim might infact put them against the wall.

disjointed sentence please reword/clarify/elaborate

 

[The Bald Eagle]

why would the Christians prefer Hindus over Muslims ?



disjointed sentence please reword/clarify/elaborate

The British role in Indian policy against Muslims

TEHRAN - India’s Muslims have taken to streets these days to protest the citizenship amendment act (CAA), and extremist Hindus who run the government violently have confronted them. What has triggered the Muslims to protest is the law that will deprive a large number of the Indian Muslim...

tehrantimes.com

It's a well known fact still not sure whether you never came across it or deliberately downplaying it.

Even Sir Syed Ahmed Khan( a clerk and employee) of East India Company write a whole book on it post 1857 revolt failure.

The Causes of the Indian Revolt
Book by Syed Ahmad Khan

And on other sentence you read it right, British administration suppressed Muslims emphatically post 1857 episode and there are numerous evidence on it. Even some in above article besides you can Google it too.

 

[uppercut]

The British role in Indian policy against Muslims

TEHRAN - India’s Muslims have taken to streets these days to protest the citizenship amendment act (CAA), and extremist Hindus who run the government violently have confronted them. What has triggered the Muslims to protest is the law that will deprive a large number of the Indian Muslim...

tehrantimes.com

It's a well known fact still not sure whether you never came across it or deliberately downplaying it.

Even Sir Syed Ahmed Khan( a clerk and employee) of East India Company write a whole book on it post 1857 revolt failure.

The Causes of the Indian Revolt
Book by Syed Ahmad Khan

And on other sentence you read it right, British administration suppressed Muslims emphatically post 1857 episode and there are numerous evidence on it. Even some in above article besides you can Google it too.

will respond over the weekend

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Where are the BJP posters now? Will they condemn this?

Even they can't defend this, this is one of the despicable act even in general.

 

[uppercut]

Where are the BJP posters now? Will they condemn this?

where is that response to my question that I asked you many months ago ?

in case you want o p The question

Even they can't defend this, this is one of the despicable act even in general.

just wait ... I will respond .... pretty sure you will quietly evade.

 

[MP2011]

Muslim couple forced to sell house after protests by Hindu residents

A Muslim couple in India have been hounded out of their newly-purchased home by their Hindu neighbours who said they would not allow them to live there because of their religion.

Hindu residents of the posh TDI City – an upscale residential bloc in the northern city of Moradabad – began protesting on Tuesday night after news of the sale became public.

A video from the protest that has gone viral shows one of the residents Megha Arora saying that Dr Ashok Bajaj, a resident, had sold his house to a Muslim family without consulting them.

"We cannot tolerate a Muslim family living right in front of our local temple. This is also a question of the safety of our women," she said.

"We want the sale to be revoked and are asking the administration to cancel the registration of the house in the name of its new owners. We cannot allow people from another faith to come and live here. We will not allow them to enter and continue to protest as long as they don't go away," she added.

Many of the residents also visited the district magistrate's office to lodge a complaint. Outside, they shouted slogans against Dr Bajaj and the Muslim couple.

The protests have had their intended effect. On Friday, Dr Bajaj told the BBC that a resolution, mediated by the city's elected representative, had been reached and the new Muslim owners would re-sell the house to a Hindu family already living in the housing society.

Dr Bajaj, who runs an eye hospital in the city and had lived in the society for more than six years, said he had sold the house to the Muslim couple who are both doctors and that their families had known each other for 40 years. The Muslim couple, he said, were no longer comfortable moving into the house.

He added that the furore over the sale was "uncalled for" and that he had not expected it to become national news.

The protest started after he introduced the Muslim couple to his neighbours as a gesture of goodwill.

The backlash to the sale of the house, he said, "has come out of nowhere" as there are other Muslim families already living in the colony and that "we had always had a good rapport with our neighbours".

"The controversy is changing the fabric of the city. Our intention was not to create any kind of unrest with this transaction," he said, adding that "there is no law" against this transaction.

The colony also did not have a residents' association that would need to approve the sale, he said. "Now they have woken up to make it."

This is not the first time Muslim residents have faced backlash in Moradabad for buying homes in a Hindu-majority area. In 2021, residents and Hindu hardline organisations had protested after two Muslim families had purchased houses from Hindus.

Segregated living has existed in rural India for a long time where different castes and religions lived apart. The urban centres were meant to be the melting pots where people could live together, irrespective of their differences. However, in reality, many urban areas continue to experience segregation.

Discrimination against minority communities, especially Muslims, is common in many Indian cities where many housing societies insist on food habits such as vegetarianism to keep them out.

Muslims in states like Gujarat and Maharashtra have often said they are unable to buy or rent homes in Hindu neighbourhoods. A few years ago, a Bollywood actor Emraan Hashmi had made headlines for alleging he was refused a flat in Mumbai because of his Muslim faith.

Tanvir Aeijaz, professor of politics and public policy at Delhi University, says denying the Muslim couple the choice to buy the house they wanted is "discriminatory and completely unconstitutional".

"It's a violation of their fundamental and legal rights. This is a violation of a person's right to equality and freedom and if such cases increase, they endanger the constitution of India."

Prof Aeijaz says there are special rights to protect Dalits (formerly known as untouchables) and women who are considered vulnerable groups, "but how come there are no rights to protect Muslims who are the most vulnerable group in India"? he asks.

This incident has also resulted in a huge outrage in India with many taking to social media to express their anger.

"Welcome to #NewIndia," comedian Akash Banerjee wrote on X, formerly Twitter. "A doctor sold his house to a fellow doctor… Why on earth would that lead to a massive protest/uproar in a posh housing society in Moradabad?" he asked.

"As a nation we always boast about unity in diversity. We should be ashamed about these incidents," wrote John Brittas, an MP from the Communist Party of India (Marxist).

Those protesting against the couple "were not nameless, faceless individuals", another user wrote on X. "They were people unafraid and unashamed of publicly displaying their bigotry and lsIamophobia."

Critics say incidents of violence and discrimination against India's Muslim community have grown in the past decade under the Hindu nationalist government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Anti-Muslim hate speech incidents have surged, with a majority reported from states ruled by the BJP – Moradabad is also located in the BJP-ruled Uttar Pradesh. The BJP has consistently denied these claims.

Prof Aeijaz says the incident in Moradabad "shows that religious polarisation has sunk in, that it's working at the ground level".

But, he says he feels hopeful that things will change for the better.

"Hinduism is based on pluralism. Most people I meet understand that hate is against their religion. And that gives me hope."

BBC

Pathetic from andhbhakts. Just because a doctor couple (a highly educated one at that) was moving in a predominantly hindu housing society, means all Hindu women became unsafe overnight? I am truly ashamed of sharing my caste with some of the bigots living in that housing society who voiced their 'concern' over this harmless buying of a flat by a Muslim couple.

That's what the bigot has done to this beautiful country, totally shredded the secular fabric of India. Surely, it was not all rosy before 2014 too but the bigot has taken bigotry to a whole new level, never seen in India since partition happened all those years ago!

 

[MP2011]

Now that I think of it, even the housing society I live in, doesn't have a single Muslim resident left now. And I moved here a decade back!

This is how Muslims are being systematically targetted and evicted from mainstream India, with most of them re forever condemned to be ghettoised.

 

[SM1989]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1864720434895233524

What an evil group of people these Hindutva crowd are… We need another Islamic empire to arise and rid the world of the Hindutva ideology.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Now that I think of it, even the housing society I live in, doesn't have a single Muslim resident left now. And I moved here a decade back!

This is how Muslims are being systematically targetted and evicted from mainstream India, with most of them re forever condemned to be ghettoised.

People will still defend this act.. wait and watch

 

[The Bald Eagle]

where is that response to my question that I asked you many months ago ?

in case you want o p The question


just wait ... I will respond .... pretty sure you will quietly evade.

Didn't you call it unjustifiable in post 2489?

 

[uppercut]

Didn't you call it unjustifiable in post 2489?

Yes but I also asked you a question as to why these things happen only with Muslims and not other communities.

The point is if you are claiming Hindus as generally intolerant then they would be intolerant towards all other religions also and not just towatds muslims ... right ?

 

[sweep_shot]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1864720434895233524

What an evil group of people these Hindutva crowd are… We need another Islamic empire to arise and rid the world of the Hindutva ideology.

These BJP people are the new Nazis.

World's latest evil.

 

[uppercut]

These BJP people are the new Nazis.

World's latest evil.

What seems to Be the issue in answering that question? Perhaps because it will expose the muslims as the REAL NAZI'S ?

Here is the Rap sheet of Muslim attrocities that make Nazis look like benevolent angels


1. Kashmir Pandit genocide and ethnic cleansing
2. Godhra mass murder
3. Countless acts of terrorism

And on and on and on.

 

[emranabbas]

Yes but I also asked you a question as to why these things happen only with Muslims and not other communities.

The point is if you are claiming Hindus as generally intolerant then they would be intolerant towards all other religions also and not just towatds muslims ... right ?

All from last couple of months

100 Christians banned from villages in India if they don’t denounce faith • Pathway

At least 40 members of New Bethesda Jesus Tribal Ministry in Michwar Village remain sheltered at the church two weeks after the village council banned them from the community unless they renounce their faith. Read the full story from The Pathway, Missouri Baptists' news source.

mbcpathway.com

Violence against Christians remain high in India, 47 FIRs lodged in 673 reported incidents: Report

In a concerning trend, incidents of violence against Christians in India remain high, with 673 incidents reported to the United Christian Forum (UCF) helpline by the end of October 2024. Uttar Pradesh leads with the highest number of reported incidents (182), followed by Chhattisgarh (139).

english.varthabharati.in

India: Police Watch as Mob Attacks 14 Christians in Chhattisgarh

As police watched, hundreds of people attacked 14 Christians in India after they defied orders to abandon their Christian faith.

archons.org

 

[emranabbas]

What seems to Be the issue in answering that question? Perhaps because it will expose the muslims as the REAL NAZI'S ?

Here is the Rap sheet of Muslim attrocities that make Nazis look like benevolent angels


1. Kashmir Pandit genocide and ethnic cleansing
2. Godhra mass murder
3. Countless acts of terrorism

And on and on and on.

So that justifies attrocities on Indian Muslims who have nothing to do with all the above you mentioned?

Since you agree muslims are the problem and why not do another 1947 and give seprete land to the remaining muslims in India?

 

[Hitman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1866687659873275918

 

[uppercut]

So that justifies attrocities on Indian Muslims who have nothing to do with all the above you mentioned?

What do you mean by "nothing to do with the above mentioned" ? Such grave atrocities are simply not possible without large and deep rooted support fueled by hatred and bigotry towards Hindus on a consistent basis for centuries not decades. Unless you claim that those acts were initiated by Martians. Like What the fudge !!

Don't believe me ? go look at the dogged stance of Indian Muslims on the Babri Masjib, Gyanvapi Masjid, Mathura Shahi Idga controversy etc etc.

Since you agree muslims are the problem and why not do another 1947 and give seprete land to the remaining muslims in India?

There is an easier alternative ... how about Muslims getting civilized ?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Now that I think of it, even the housing society I live in, doesn't have a single Muslim resident left now. And I moved here a decade back!

This is how Muslims are being systematically targetted and evicted from mainstream India, with most of them re forever condemned to be ghettoised.

Do you eat at a muslim owned eatery?

 

[cricketjoshila]

All from last couple of months

100 Christians banned from villages in India if they don’t denounce faith • Pathway

At least 40 members of New Bethesda Jesus Tribal Ministry in Michwar Village remain sheltered at the church two weeks after the village council banned them from the community unless they renounce their faith. Read the full story from The Pathway, Missouri Baptists' news source.

mbcpathway.com

Violence against Christians remain high in India, 47 FIRs lodged in 673 reported incidents: Report

In a concerning trend, incidents of violence against Christians in India remain high, with 673 incidents reported to the United Christian Forum (UCF) helpline by the end of October 2024. Uttar Pradesh leads with the highest number of reported incidents (182), followed by Chhattisgarh (139).

english.varthabharati.in

India: Police Watch as Mob Attacks 14 Christians in Chhattisgarh

As police watched, hundreds of people attacked 14 Christians in India after they defied orders to abandon their Christian faith.

archons.org

Atleast post proper sources and not propoganda websites.

 

[cricketjoshila]

@uppercut, do you still have justification for such bigots??? Who hate some persons JUST because of their religious identity.

I am a Hindu Bengali Brahmin. I have been and will be denied flat in a Gujarati majority society in Mumbai.

I have friends who have had similar issues in Delhi.

Because we are non vegetarians.

I have a friend who bought a flat in a society in Noida. Few months later his live in girlfriend arrived. He was literally hounded out of his own flat because rest of the owners didn't want "bad influence" on their children.

Indian society is inherently conservative and people of same religion and usually similar eating habits culture/region tend to live together.

This isn't a muslim specific thing.

 

[sweep_shot]

So that justifies attrocities on Indian Muslims who have nothing to do with all the above you mentioned?

Since you agree muslims are the problem and why not do another 1947 and give seprete land to the remaining muslims in India?

Another partition of India is needed. I agree.

Smaller India is good for subcontinent's stability.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I will tell you EXACTLY why with bare facts .... but do you want to see ?

Still waiting to see any bare facts, only answering questions with questions. This is why only people who are prepared to have their time wasted bother engaging with you.

 

[uppercut]

Still waiting to see any bare facts, only answering questions with questions. This is why only people who are prepared to have their time wasted bother engaging with you.

Because you didn't respond to my post ( and now you will run away )

The simple answer is that they are not compatible. Below is a link of a live example of what happens when a housing society has significant Muslim households and this is in Mumbai. BTW almost every city no matter how small/big in India has areas that are known to be muslim areas and are generally a no-go areas for Hindus. Most Hindus are driven away from there. So these are all preemptive steps to prevent their area from being slowly taken over by Muslims and life eventually becoming hell for Hindus ( see the video in the link below ).

And let me tell you this from personal experience ... I am part of a large alumni group with 100s of people on whatsapp. I have not seen one single person there being sympathetic towards Muslims. Not even handful of the most ultra left liberal woke idiots who are anti-BJP.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843829329488425404

And this is not just in India.

Here is whats happening in Poland:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865890616619507837

 

[cricketjoshila]

Another partition of India is needed. I agree.

Smaller India is good for subcontinent's stability.

Currently Bangladesh needs to be partitioned so that minorities of BD can have a place to stay peacefully.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Because you didn't respond to my post ( and now you will run away )

The simple answer is that they are not compatible. Below is a link of a live example of what happens when a housing society has significant Muslim households and this is in Mumbai. BTW almost every city no matter how small/big in India has areas that are known to be muslim areas and are generally a no-go areas for Hindus. Most Hindus are driven away from there. So these are all preemptive steps to prevent their area from being slowly taken over by Muslims and life eventually becoming hell for Hindus ( see the video in the link below ).

And let me tell you this from personal experience ... I am part of a large alumni group with 100s of people on whatsapp. I have not seen one single person there being sympathetic towards Muslims. Not even handful of the most ultra left liberal woke idiots who are anti-BJP.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843829329488425404

And this is not just in India.

Here is whats happening in Poland:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865890616619507837

I haven't got time to watch individual videos. If you could provide a synopsis I can respond.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Currently Bangladesh needs to be partitioned so that minorities of BD can have a place to stay peacefully.

No need to partition BD when India has already offered citizenship for Hindus in India precisely for such events.

 

[Hitman]

This is from my state. And that pervert is a teacher.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1868153057428803931

 

[Varun]

Currently Bangladesh needs to be partitioned so that minorities of BD can have a place to stay peacefully.

Just merge West Bengal, Bangladesh and the North East and be done with it. Take Bhutan too.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Just merge West Bengal, Bangladesh and the North East and be done with it. Take Bhutan too.

No thanks. We hindu Bengalis of west Bengal fought to separate from the muslim dominated east Bengal.

Don't want to have anything to do with them.

Don't think the North East wants to either.

AFAIK Assamese people would hate this idea.
@Hitman @Itachi

 

[Vikram1989]

Just merge West Bengal, Bangladesh and the North East and be done with it. Take Bhutan too.

Who're u to decide when north east is fighting tooth and nail against bng illegal migration?you don't even think about security and repercussions?

 

[Itachi]

Who're u to decide when north east is fighting tooth and nail against bng illegal migration?you don't even think about security and repercussions?

Why will North East would want to be merged with West Bengal and Bangladesh?

 

[Itachi]

No thanks. We hindu Bengalis of west Bengal fought to separate from the muslim dominated east Bengal.

Don't want to have anything to do with them.

Don't think the North East wants to either.

AFAIK Assamese people would hate this idea.
@Hitman @Itachi

Yes we will hate this idea. The whole 1985 assam agitation revolved around that.

 

[Vikram1989]

Why will North East would want to be merged with West Bengal and Bangladesh?

When India is bending backwards to integrate with Northern east, @Varun wants to give away kolkata , a major city to a country which wants to persecute in the name of religion.even he may not be spared with his extreme liberal views.How can he decide another country Bhutan future.Its all typical congress lacklustre attitude about india's security

 

[Itachi]

When India is bending backwards to integrate with Northern east, @Varun wants to give away kolkata , a major city to a country which wants to persecute in the name of religion.even he may not be spared with his extreme liberal views.How can he decide another country Bhutan future.Its all typical congress lacklustre attitude about india's security

Apologies. I quoted yours instead of Varun.

 

[Varun]

When India is bending backwards to integrate with Northern east, @Varun wants to give away kolkata , a major city to a country which wants to persecute in the name of religion.even he may not be spared with his extreme liberal views.How can he decide another country Bhutan future.Its all typical congress lacklustre attitude about india's security

Now you've made me a member of a political party.

 

[RexRex]

Just merge West Bengal, Bangladesh and the North East and be done with it. Take Bhutan too.

I wouldn't mind gifting West Bengal to Bangladesh, they are birds of the same feather.

It'd be like East Germany re-uniting with West Germany after a 50 year cold war. @CricketCartoons

 

[Vikram1989]

Now you've made me a member of a political party.

Am poining the similarities. So apart from that u agree everything else is correct ?

 

[Hitman]

No thanks. We hindu Bengalis of west Bengal fought to separate from the muslim dominated east Bengal.

Don't want to have anything to do with them.

Don't think the North East wants to either.

AFAIK Assamese people would hate this idea.
@Hitman @Itachi

I wish I could put into words what people of Assam think of Bangladeshis.

 

[Hitman]

The racism and hatred comes because of those hundreds of thousands of illegal Bangladeshis who have infiltrated my state over the years and have been eating away our resources.

I'd gladly welcome anyone who acquires Indian citizenship and comes here.​

 

[CricketCartoons]

I wouldn't mind gifting West Bengal to Bangladesh, they are birds of the same feather.

It'd be like East Germany re-uniting with West Germany after a 50 year cold war. @CricketCartoons

Not a bad idea. Even without reunification, west bengal is going to be another bangladesh soon. Communists and Islamists are a match made in Heaven.

 

[big_gamer007]

Just merge West Bengal, Bangladesh and the North East and be done with it. Take Bhutan too.

What purpose do you think that would solve?
It will only create more issues and wouldn’t solve anything.

 

[Varun]

Am poining the similarities. So apart from that u agree everything else is correct ?

No. Kolkata is a dead city - every youth worth their salt runs away at the slightest behest.

There's a reason Bangalore was renamed to Bengaluru.

 

[Vikram1989]

No. Kolkata is a dead city - every youth worth their salt runs away at the slightest behest.

There's a reason Bangalore was renamed to Bengaluru.

Even if it's empty barren land we cant leave it from strategic point of view as China,bng , pak are behind us.Lets hope kolkata will be great again in 15 or 20 years .

 

[FearlessRoar]

Only Lord Ram's traditions will remain in India, not Babur's: Yogi Adityanath​

Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath, speaking in the state Assembly on Monday, said that the traditions of Lord Ram, Krishna, and Buddha will remain in India, while the legacies of Babur and Aurangzeb will fade.

The remarks were made in reference to the Opposition's suggestion that chanting the slogans and allowing Hindu rallies to pass through Muslim-dominated region will instigate communal violence.

The Chief Minister questioned, "Where is it written in the Constitution that a Hindu procession cannot be taken out in a Muslim-dominated area?"

He continued, "When you stop it, the reaction from the Hindu side also comes that we will also not let it go. I am surprised by these things that the procession will not be allowed in front of the mosque. Does this road belong to anyone? It is a public road, how can you stop anyone?"

The Chief Minister referred to a recent incident in Bahraich, where a traditional procession was scheduled but halted. He stated, "All arrangements were completed to take that traditional procession forward. But to say that provocative slogans were being raised. The slogan of Jai Shri Ram is not provocative, it is the slogan of our devotion, a symbol of our faith."

He also compared this to the slogan of "Allahu Akbar," saying, "Tomorrow, if I tell you that we do not like the slogan of Allahu Akbar, will you like it?"

The Chief Minister spoke about the significance of certain religious phrases, saying, "Our heritage is so vast and ancient... I can spend my whole life with the salutations of Jai Shri Ram, Har Har Mahadev and Radhe Radhe. We do not need any other salutation."

He also referred to historical texts, stating that the Baburnama, the memoirs of the Mughal Emperor Babur, mentioned that a temple was destroyed to build a structure.

The Chief Minister also highlighted the communal violence in Sambhal, saying that 209 Hindus had been killed there since 1947, and criticised those who, in his view, only sympathised with Muslim victims. "Those who shed crocodile tears did not say a word about innocent Hindus," he said.

Only Lord Ram's traditions will remain in India, not Babur's: Yogi Adityanath

Yogi Adityanath: The remarks were made in reference to the Opposition's suggestion that chanting the slogans and allowing Hindu rallies to pass through Muslim-dominated region will instigate communal violence.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[Varun]

What purpose do you think that would solve?
It will only create more issues and wouldn’t solve anything.

Run the country like a business. Offload the loss making parts and focus on the profitable ones. Provide good dividends to shareholders.

Lost in time Waste Bengal and their 2% growth, coupled with them being ravaged by illegal immigrants are prime to be divested.

Of course, the tall poppies can continue to come to the rest of India and contribute to their and our economic growth, provided they apply for a valid visa.

All in an ideal world or course. None of the above is going to happen.

 

[IndoorCricket]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1869763486626054280

 

[Hitman]

I wish I could put into words what people of Assam think of Bangladeshis.

It's reasons like these. It's my state.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1869945560968651119

 

[IndoorCricket]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1870016812886438042

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Only Lord Ram's traditions will remain in India, not Babur's: Yogi Adityanath​

Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath, speaking in the state Assembly on Monday, said that the traditions of Lord Ram, Krishna, and Buddha will remain in India, while the legacies of Babur and Aurangzeb will fade.

The remarks were made in reference to the Opposition's suggestion that chanting the slogans and allowing Hindu rallies to pass through Muslim-dominated region will instigate communal violence.

The Chief Minister questioned, "Where is it written in the Constitution that a Hindu procession cannot be taken out in a Muslim-dominated area?"

He continued, "When you stop it, the reaction from the Hindu side also comes that we will also not let it go. I am surprised by these things that the procession will not be allowed in front of the mosque. Does this road belong to anyone? It is a public road, how can you stop anyone?"

The Chief Minister referred to a recent incident in Bahraich, where a traditional procession was scheduled but halted. He stated, "All arrangements were completed to take that traditional procession forward. But to say that provocative slogans were being raised. The slogan of Jai Shri Ram is not provocative, it is the slogan of our devotion, a symbol of our faith."

He also compared this to the slogan of "Allahu Akbar," saying, "Tomorrow, if I tell you that we do not like the slogan of Allahu Akbar, will you like it?"

The Chief Minister spoke about the significance of certain religious phrases, saying, "Our heritage is so vast and ancient... I can spend my whole life with the salutations of Jai Shri Ram, Har Har Mahadev and Radhe Radhe. We do not need any other salutation."

He also referred to historical texts, stating that the Baburnama, the memoirs of the Mughal Emperor Babur, mentioned that a temple was destroyed to build a structure.

The Chief Minister also highlighted the communal violence in Sambhal, saying that 209 Hindus had been killed there since 1947, and criticised those who, in his view, only sympathised with Muslim victims. "Those who shed crocodile tears did not say a word about innocent Hindus," he said.

Only Lord Ram's traditions will remain in India, not Babur's: Yogi Adityanath

Yogi Adityanath: The remarks were made in reference to the Opposition's suggestion that chanting the slogans and allowing Hindu rallies to pass through Muslim-dominated region will instigate communal violence.

www.indiatoday.in

Here you have the potential next leader of India openly encouraging mobs to demonstrate against Muslims and lauding the day when they will be wiped out from India. But he is just following in the footsteps of the current leader who rose to power using the same tactics of hatred. This is modern India.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Allahabad High Court Stays Arrest Of Fact-Checker Mohammad Zubair

The Allahabad High Court on Friday stayed the arrest of Alt News co-founder Mohammed Zubair in relation to an FIR accusing him of promoting enmity among religious groups following a complaint by an associate of controversial priest Yati Narsinghanand.

The order was passed by a bench of justices Siddhartha Varma and Nalin Kumar Srivastava.

In her complaint, general secretary of Yati Narsinghanand Saraswati Trust Udita Tyagi claimed Zubair posted a video clip of an old programme of Narsinghanand on October 3 with the intent to provoke violence by Muslims against him.

It was further alleged that Mr Zubair posted edited clips of the priest on X, containing Yati Narsinghanand's alleged incendiary remarks on Prophet Muhammad to incite radical sentiments against the controversial priest.

In his X post, Mr Zubair called the alleged speech of Yati Narsinghanand 'derogatory'.

The FIR was lodged by Ghaziabad police last month under sections 196 (promoting enmity between different groups on grounds of religion), 228 (fabricating false evidence), 299 (deliberate and malicious acts intended to outrage religious feelings), 356(3) (defamation) and 351(2) (punishment for criminal intimidation) of the Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita (BNS).

Zubair had moved the high court, requesting quashing the FIR and protection from coercive action. In his plea, he stated that his post did not call for violence against Yati Narsinghanand.

Rather, he had merely alerted the police authorities about Yati Narsinghanand's actions and sought action according to law, and this could not amount to promoting disharmony or ill-will between two classes of people.

In addition to it, he also challenged the invocation of the defamation provision under the BNS on the grounds that seeking action against Yati Narsinghanand by sharing his own videos which are already in public domain, cannot amount to defamation.

Allahabad High Court Stays Arrest Of Fact-Checker Mohammad Zubair

The Allahabad High Court on Friday stayed the arrest of Alt News co-founder Mohammed Zubair in relation to an FIR accusing him of promoting enmity among religious groups following complaint by an associate of controversial priest Yati Narsinghanand.

www.ndtv.com

 

[The Bald Eagle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1869763486626054280

Can you share any newspaper link for this news as I searched a lot but couldn't find...also no newspaper with such name.

 

[IndoorCricket]

Can you share any newspaper link for this news as I searched a lot but couldn't find...also no newspaper with such name.

An interview with the victims mom

Weiterleitungshinweis

 

[IndoorCricket]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1870131612798619961

 

[uppercut]

@uppercut, I think you didn't know but @HalBass9 is a Muslim

I am very well aware ... thats why I am not surprised at the dogged in-your-face type of responses.

====

Say: O disbelievers,
I do not worship what you worship.
Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.

Surah al-Kafirun, Holy Quran

Harming cows is not required per your religion and ALL Muslims perfectly know that cows are very sacred to Hindus.... yet here we are in 2024 where well educated posters are matter-of-factly telling me right here on this forum to alter my beliefs and that they will not change. Infact they see no issues whatsover in mocking my beliefs and they very openly say that they will not yield ( And this intolerance goes well beyond cows and temples ).

So as I have said before .... you can claim all nice things about your religion but the bare hard facts will tell a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY ALL TOGETHER AND THAT STORY IS LITERALLY MANY MANY CENTURIES OLD AND CONTINUES TO THIS DAY!!

Let me know how many examples you need of grotesque barbaric acts of Muslims in India.
​

 

[cricketjoshila]

I am very well aware ... thats why I am not surprised at the dogged in-your-face type of responses.

Harming cows is not required per your religion and ALL Muslims perfectly know that cows are very sacred to Hindus.... yet here we are in 2024 where well educated posters are matter-of-factly telling me right here on this forum to alter my beliefs and that they will not change. Infact they see no issues whatsover in mocking my beliefs and they very openly say that they will not yield ( And this intolerance goes well beyond cows and temples ).

So as I have said before .... you can claim all nice things about your religion but the bare hard facts will tell a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY ALL TOGETHER AND THAT STORY IS LITERALLY MANY MANY CENTURIES OLD AND CONTINUES TO THIS DAY!!

Let me know how many examples you need of grotesque barbaric acts of Muslims in India.
​

Why do you want to engage in a discussion on Hinduism with him?

What is to be gained?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I am very well aware ... thats why I am not surprised at the dogged in-your-face type of responses.

Harming cows is not required per your religion and ALL Muslims perfectly know that cows are very sacred to Hindus.... yet here we are in 2024 where well educated posters are matter-of-factly telling me right here on this forum to alter my beliefs and that they will not change. Infact they see no issues whatsover in mocking my beliefs and they very openly say that they will not yield ( And this intolerance goes well beyond cows and temples ).

So as I have said before .... you can claim all nice things about your religion but the bare hard facts will tell a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY ALL TOGETHER AND THAT STORY IS LITERALLY MANY MANY CENTURIES OLD AND CONTINUES TO THIS DAY!!

Let me know how many examples you need of grotesque barbaric acts of Muslims in India.
​

You should know how badly Christains treated Muslims after getting the reign of Indian subcontinent but that plus many other atrocities like 1757,1799,1857.....etc still don't stand in way of cooperation between Pakistan and UK.. So you guys need to come out from past as well and need to dwell in present where your brethrens are trying to suppress Muslims in India. Not the case otherwise as you suggest.

 

[uppercut]

Why do you want to engage in a discussion on Hinduism with him?

What is to be gained?

Awareness. If this is the situation with educated people just imagine how dire the situation might be out there amongst village ilk.

Also remember we got to this situation due to no shortage of useful idiots amongst our own who live in an alternate world.

 

[uppercut]

You should know how badly Christains treated Muslims after getting the reign of Indian subcontinent but that plus many other atrocities like 1757,1799,1857.....etc still don't stand in way of cooperation between Pakistan and UK.. So you guys need to come out from past as well and need to dwell in present where your brethrens are trying to suppress Muslims in India. Not the case otherwise as you suggest.

Violence begets violence, intolerance begets violence. Right here right now we have educated people openly refusing to respect Hindu beliefs and you are wondering why there is a backlash ? I mean this sort of utterly upside down mindset is just mind boggling.

why are you even expecting cordial relationship with that sort of mindset ?​

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Violence begets violence, intolerance begets violence. Right here right now we have educated people openly refusing to respect Hindu beliefs and you are wondering why there is a backlash ? I mean this sort of utterly upside down mindset is just mind boggling.

why are you even expecting cordial relationship with that sort of mindset ?​

I am not begging for it but just exposing the hypocrisy in your government and brethren narrative. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Why BJP happy to have "cordial" relations with British who according to you guys also tortured you but unable to bury the old hatchet with your own Muslim country mates... Doesn't it make things clearly obvious now...I mean just justify the thread premise in a way

 

[uppercut]

I am not begging for it but just exposing the hypocrisy in your government and brethren narrative. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

I said begets .... lol. Where is the hypocrisy though can you give me a good example ?

Why BJP happy to have "cordial" relations with British who according to you guys also tortured you but unable to bury the old hatchet with your own Muslim country mates... Doesn't it make things clearly obvious now...I mean just justify the thread premise in a way

Because we don't have Christians running around killing people in India, resorting to riots to settle disputes. They do not even see themselves as "Former rulers" like the Muslims do. How ridiculous is that ?

Furthermore we now have seen Britain of today voting a religious hindu as their PM. Contrast that with the situation of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh. How the heck does such simple basic understanding of realities evade you ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I said begets .... lol. Where is the hypocrisy though can you give me a good example ?



Because we don't have Christians running around killing people in India, resorting to riots to settle disputes. They do not even see themselves as "Former rulers" like the Muslims do. How ridiculous is that ?

Furthermore we now have seen Britain of today voting a religious hindu as their PM. Contrast that with the situation of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh. How the heck does such simple basic understanding of realities evade you ?

If you will keep bulldozing their every other old mosque, keep on calling them "infiltrators" by PM. Those supporting him would be branded as modern "Muslim League"..would make a CAA just to exclude them despite also being a minority. (although no such rule for Buddhists in Nepal). Keep bashing them in every election through even actors like Mithun and others.

And then keep on stigmatizing them with love jihad, Corona Jihad etc...then what do you expect in run..should they do arty Pooja of BJP lol...isn't this is so obvious to you Hindus in Pakistan are much well off as RaGa equivalent as indians used to call him Bilawal is in the helm of affairs in Sindh where Hindus are much much safer than Muslims in India. And also they(Hindus) have been voting PPP to power since 1990s and from 2008 have been doing this successively on every general elections

 

[uppercut]

If you will keep bulldozing their every other old mosque, keep on calling them "infiltrators" by PM. Those supporting him would be branded as modern "Muslim League"..would make a CAA just to exclude them despite also being a minority. (although no such rule for Buddhists in Nepal). Keep bashing them in every election through even actors like Mithun and others.

And then keep on stigmatizing them with love jihad, Corona Jihad etc...then what do you expect in run..should they do arty Pooja of BJP lol...isn't this is so obvious to you Hindus in Pakistan are much well off as RaGa equivalent as indians used to call him Bilawal is in the helm of affairs in Sindh where Hindus are much much safer than Muslims in India. And also they(Hindus) have been voting PPP to power since 1990s and from 2008 have been doing this successively on every general elections

the situation is the EXACT AND COMPLETE opposite of what you describe. Unlike you I have lived in India and experienced it LIVE!! Let me assure you that you are just PLAIN WRONG. PERIOD!!

The evidence is in grave unprovoked incidents like Godhra, Kashmiri Pandit Genocide and exodus, literally Millions of Hindus killed raped and forced to flee Pakistan and Bangladesh over the last 77 yrs. I mean the entire population of Hindus in Pakistan, BD and Kashmir put together is in single digit % whereas the entire population of Muslims in India is almost close to the population of Pakistan with WAKF land close to the areaf of Pakistan?. How do you say with a straight face that Hindus are living a honorable life in Pakistan ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

the situation is the EXACT AND COMPLETE opposite of what you describe. Unlike you I have lived in India and experienced it LIVE!! Let me assure you that you are just PLAIN WRONG. PERIOD!!

The evidence is in grave unprovoked incidents like Godhra, Kashmiri Pandit Genocide and exodus, literally Millions of Hindus killed raped and forced to flee Pakistan and Bangladesh over the last 77 yrs. I mean the entire population of Hindus in Pakistan, BD and Kashmir put together is in single digit % whereas the entire population of Muslims in India is almost close to the population of Pakistan with WAKF land close to the areaf of Pakistan?. How do you say with a straight face that Hindus are living a honorable life in Pakistan ?

It's a very flawed argument, don't you know what Ch Rehmat Ali, the one who coined the term Pakistan and a former friend of Jinnah parted ways with him. Because he simply wanted north india muslim majority regions plus areas in bihar to be part of Pakistan too. And of Hindu population they were well concentrated in present day Bangladesh not West Pakistan. And you claim of accepting millions of them while just recently have sealed the borders for them.

And different rankings and media reports also show that Hindus in Pakistan are much safer than in India. Atleast no one would kill them for having a meal of their choice.

And how can you claim to be more friendlier to muslims when IOK is a living hell for last 77 years?

 

[uppercut]

It's a very flawed argument, don't you know what Ch Rehmat Ali, the one who coined the term Pakistan and a former friend of Jinnah parted ways with him. Because he simply wanted north india muslim majority regions plus areas in bihar to be part of Pakistan too. And of Hindu population they were well concentrated in present day Bangladesh not West Pakistan. And you claim of accepting millions of them while just recently have sealed the borders for them.

And different rankings and media reports also show that Hindus in Pakistan are much safer than in India. Atleast no one would kill them for having a meal of their choice.

The entire Hindu Population of East + West Pakistan was approx 20% back in 1951 ( Conservative estimate ). Today that stands in single digits. Whereas the Muslim population in India has multiplied atleast 5x. From what angle does this look like Hindus being safe ? I mean as we speak there is a ongoing systematic Hindu persecution in BD.

And how can you claim to be more friendlier to muslims when IOK is a living hell for last 77 years?

You think the BJP govt is soo stupid to have held the G20 summit in Indian Kashmir if it is a living hell ? I mean how do you even form opinions like that in this day age ?

Lets say that was all carefully orchestrated.

Then how do you explain this ( its a random vlog from a foreigner walking freely in Srinagar with not a single Indian soldier in Sight ):

Not convinced ? Go Search to your hearts content on YT and lets see some evidence of this supposed "Living Hell" considering that 99.9% of Kashmir population is now only Muslims.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If you will keep bulldozing their every other old mosque, keep on calling them "infiltrators" by PM. Those supporting him would be branded as modern "Muslim League"..would make a CAA just to exclude them despite also being a minority. (although no such rule for Buddhists in Nepal). Keep bashing them in every election through even actors like Mithun and others.

And then keep on stigmatizing them with love jihad, Corona Jihad etc...then what do you expect in run..should they do arty Pooja of BJP lol...isn't this is so obvious to you Hindus in Pakistan are much well off as RaGa equivalent as indians used to call him Bilawal is in the helm of affairs in Sindh where Hindus are much much safer than Muslims in India. And also they(Hindus) have been voting PPP to power since 1990s and from 2008 have been doing this successively on every general elections

Infiltrators will be called infiltrators. Bangladeshis and Rohingyas are infiltrators. They aren't welcome here.

CAA takes nothing away from any Indian citizen. It allows non muslims from Pakistan and BD to get asylum and citizenship in India.


Every mosque? If you believe Muslims have a right to a separate homeland then why do Hindus don't have a right to reclaim their temples?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Awareness. If this is the situation with educated people just imagine how dire the situation might be out there amongst village ilk.

Also remember we got to this situation due to no shortage of useful idiots amongst our own who live in an alternate world.

I hope you have found your awareness. And know the futility of engaging in any discussion regarding Sanatan with them.

 

[uppercut]

I hope you have found your awareness. And know the futility of engaging in any discussion regarding Sanatan with them.

Thats not what I meant. I am fully aware of the Pakistani mindset and have no expectations at all from them lol. What I meant was awareness for the silent reader and ofcourse our own useful idiots.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

The entire Hindu Population of East + West Pakistan was approx 20% back in 1951 ( Conservative estimate ). Today that stands in single digits. Whereas the Muslim population in India has multiplied atleast 5x. From what angle does this look like Hindus being safe ? I mean as we speak there is a ongoing systematic Hindu persecution in BD.





You think the BJP govt is soo stupid to have held the G20 summit in Indian Kashmir if it is a living hell ? I mean how do you even form opinions like that in this day age ?

Lets say that was all carefully orchestrated.

Then how do you explain this ( its a random vlog from a foreigner walking freely in Srinagar with not a single Indian soldier in Sight ):

Not convinced ? Go Search to your hearts content on YT and lets see some evidence of this supposed "Living Hell" considering that 99.9% of Kashmir population is now only Muslims.

Lol...sometimes I can't even control my laughter as you set yourself up in traps. Atleast please spread such lies which look sensible

Now please don't tell us that he is some Mohammad Pameer instead of Michele Ponte .
Also many other videos also available.