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amlafan79 said:
give me one innings like 183 kohli played
ab is good probably more talented but that does not make him no 1!
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That 183 was good but it was on an absolute road. I rate Kohli's 100 vs SL a lot better than that. The one in Australia I'm on about.

This knock by AB was one of the best I've seen http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/387567.html
He scored 121 off 85 with 0 sixes. He was amazing that day and it was for sure one of the best ODI innings I've witnessed.

& this is probably the best ever ODI innings 102 off 59 balls http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/441829.html
 
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Bullet Drive said:
That 183 was good but it was on an absolute road. I rate Kohli's 100 vs SL a lot better than that. The one in Australia I'm on about.

This knock by AB was one of the best I've seen http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/387567.html
He scored 121 off 85 with 0 sixes. He was amazing that day and it was for sure one of the best ODI innings I've witnessed.

& this is probably the best ever ODI innings 102 off 59 balls http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/441829.html
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bro being brilliant on his day..many players can do that but to consistently damage all the teams.. no matter how good the oppositions is only few ca ndo it thts why i will always rate amla and kohli above ab
btw i odnt think there is any batsman in the world who could have hit 183 there in that position and won the game.. not against ajmal and co
remember pietersen hitting 1-2 hundreds against u guys and they dont even come close to this inning
ab is one of my fav player maybe u dont know me.. but im big fan of south african cricket ..(gave ya big hint abt who i am here :P )
ab is awesome.. probably the most dangerous when in full flow but he hasnt played like how kohli is playing now ever he (ab) is probablym ore talented then pietersen but see the achivements of both in tests people will always rate kp higher.
amla to me is better player in same line up...but right now kohli is even better then him
 
also jsut plain stats... both ab and kohli have 13 hundreds but look at difference in no of innings
just proves the point abt who is more consistent
on being lethal on there day yuvraj has also played inningsl ike this but yes ab is better then him and more consistent but if u go by plain hitting i will rate yuvraj higher
 
Virat is doing alright.Now people started comparing him with ABD and Amla instead of Umar Akmal.Great going Kohli
 
Bullet Drive said:
That 183 was good but it was on an absolute road. I rate Kohli's 100 vs SL a lot better than that. The one in Australia I'm on about.

This knock by AB was one of the best I've seen http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/387567.html
He scored 121 off 85 with 0 sixes. He was amazing that day and it was for sure one of the best ODI innings I've witnessed.

& this is probably the best ever ODI innings 102 off 59 balls http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/441829.html
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Virats 183* was the best ever ODI innings , the only other innings which comes close is Dhonis 183 against SL and Virats innings against Pak in Asia cup & Gibbs 175 against Aus.


AB's two innings where batting first , a lot of batsmen have played such innings bating first .
 
Gunner85 said:
Virat is doing alright.Now people started comparing him with ABD and Amla instead of Umar Akmal.Great going Kohli
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wat??

He is on par with ABD and well above Amla in ODI s

or shud i say the best one day batsman right now
 
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jusarrived said:
Virats 183* was the best ever ODI innings , the only other innings which comes close is Dhonis 183 against SL and Virats innings against Pak in Asia cup & Gibbs 175 against Aus.


AB's two innings where batting first , a lot of batsmen have played such innings bating first .
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Wasn't not out. Was 183 + I don't even rate it as Kohli's best. Kohli's best ton was that one in Australia against Sri Lanka
 
Bullet Drive said:
Wasn't not out. Was 183 + I don't even rate it as Kohli's best. Kohli's best ton was that one in Australia against Sri Lanka
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yeah i meant the one in Aus . Either ways both his innings would be among the Top-3 alltime best ODI innings .

I cant believe people are going about ' how i rate some xyz player better ' . The kind of batting or form hes shown is unreal & nothing like we have seen before ..forget ABDV or Amla (seriously ? ) , its a a few levels above what Lara or Tendulkar did at their best .

Can he continue his from , unlikely ..but hes already done enough to retire as a ODI great , no batsmen cud have claimed that at the age of 23 .
 
withlovefrom vizag said:
wat??

He is on par with ABD and well above Amla in ODI s

or shud i say the best one day batsman right now
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Yes i agree with you on that.But i was just thinking 4 months back there was a thread running here with kohli versus akmal comparison with 20+ pages.Now they started comparing him with the likes of amla and ABD.Now what with Sachin and Lara?
 
Has Virat come of age as a test batsman ?

At 80-4, and team facing with the prospect of follow-on, nothing more to follow in terms of the other batsmen, Virat was caught in a difficult situation.

However, he showed great maturity and skill to not only save India from follow-on, but also helped India get to a position of safety. He still has some work to do, in terms of getting close to the NZ total, and help India gain some lead, but overall, he was very composed, and have not wilted to pressure.

Contrast that with SRT, and Sehwag, who just gave away, when they were needed to score big.

Are we seeing the emergence of Virat now as a real force in test match cricket ?

I would say this is the first step. However, I would wait on how he performs in difficult conditions in SA/Eng/Aus. He did show glimpses of his ability through century at Adelaide, and some resistance at Perth.

Again this is not a comparision thread, but an independent assesment of Virat, in relation to the high standards he already set of himself in the shorter formats of the game.

Your thoughts ?
 
yep very strong mentally, he was struggling a bit where he would get a start than get out but he showed his class today and will probably get his 2nd ton.
 
This isn't the series where we can make the judgement that he's a good test player. That will come when he plays stronger oppositions in more bowling friendly conditions. However, there is no doubt it's all there. His one day class is in my opinion is too good not to be converted to success in the longer format.
 
He is something special, he's going to make his mark in Test cricket I am sure of it.
 
I think a century was important for him in the Aus tour. Perth innings helped him.
Now he is pretty much settled I feel. Will be a bit unusual for me, if doesn't go on to make a decent test player.
 
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His temperament today was the thing that really stood out for me! Accepted, not so frightening bowling linup or pitch conditions....but he was ready to grind his way through! There was not a shot of anger..the straight drives were particularly awesome
 
These Indian Kids like Virat, Raina, Sharma and others will now step up now that they have big shoes to fill. If they can deliver in ODI Cricket then can definately deliver in test cricket, only test will be in England, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa etc but every subcontinent batsman struggles there.
 
Savak said:
These Indian Kids like Virat, Raina, Sharma and others will now step up now that they have big shoes to fill. If they can deliver in ODI Cricket then can definately deliver in test cricket, only test will be in England, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa etc but every subcontinent batsman struggles there.
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Raina is a player with limited ability. Very good in shorter format, but will continue to get exposed in tests, with his weaknesses against short pitch stuff.

Rohit has attitude / temperament issues. Need to sort them, before being considered.

Kohli for me is more balanced, and has the right mix of technique and temperament that would help him succeed at this level. He knows his limitations, and adapts wonderfully to the situation, hallmark of a great batsman.
 
Usman said:
This isn't the series where we can make the judgement that he's a good test player. That will come when he plays stronger oppositions in more bowling friendly conditions. However, there is no doubt it's all there. His one day class is in my opinion is too good not to be converted to success in the longer format.
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Agreed.

kungfu90 said:
I think a century was important for him in the Aus tour. Perth innings helped him.
Now he is pretty much settled I feel. Will be a bit unusual for me, if doesn't go on to make a decent test player.
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He was miserable in the early part of the Aus tour. The first couple of test matches. But he caught up at Perth, where he really applied himself, on a difficult track, and things started improving thereon. Prior to the Australian tour, there was nothing must to write home about. In short the Aus tour acted as a catalyst, to his test career.

In hind-sight it would have made sense for India to have given opportunities/exposure to some of their youngsters in Aus. The likes of Pujara, Rahane, and Sharma, to see how they fare at the highest level. The seniors were in the worst form, and it made sense for a fresh approach.

With Kohli, we are seeing the benefits.
 
Even Amla struggled initially in Test matches but look at him now! It might sound as exaggeration to non Indias but at 23, he is already the best batsman of Ind in both formats out of the current crop.
 
Kohli should bat at #4, perhaps the team management can facilitate such a move by shifting Sach a couple of places down the order, or at least to #5.
 
Marshland said:
Kohli should bat at #4, perhaps the team management can facilitate such a move by shifting Sach a couple of places down the order, or at least to #5.
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Sachin at 6?! Blasphemy...
lol...never gonna happen
 
Marshland said:
Why not? What's the problem? Kohli can fire and score his runs relatively close to the top of the order while Sach can guts it out in case of a hasty collapse at 90/4, say.
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Not going to happen Sachin loves his position and as the senior will dictate that he carries on batting there

On the eng tour when dravid opened sachin didnt move from his well loved number 4 place and laxman moved instead from 5 to 3

Because of his status and his preference Kohli will have to wait his turn
 
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Marshland said:
Why not? What's the problem? Kohli can fire and score his runs relatively close to the top of the order while Sach can guts it out in case of a hasty collapse at 90/4, say.
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Sach can guts it out sure,but neither selectors nor Dhoni have guts to ask him
 
Kohli is in fantastic form and is cashing in like a good batsman should. He is yet to really prove himself in the tests but with his attitude and skills he would get there quickly
 
Even if he hasn't already, it's only a matter of time before he does. Has all the qualities to be a great test player.
 
he need to perform against a better bowling attack then i will judge him,

but does posses imense talent
 
Sachin should have retired after that Hundred. only thing stopping him probably was that he didn't want to seem too selfish.
 
What impresses me is the mental intellect and general IQ of these young Indian players that helps them pin point their focus on doing the right things at right the way. It's not only education I think, it has to do with the challenging environment these players grow up as kids where dumb or low IQ folks generally just cannot reach the top.
 
Form is temporary but class is permanent, if it was just good form he would have stopped scoring by now. It's been good 2 years now & only since this years Aus tour he got a permanent place in the Test XI

Infact he is more suited to Test cricket than T20, 2012 has seen Kohli feature in 5 test matches n averages 62.85 so far...

Some are taking a dig at Sachin using Kohli's name which is unfair.
 
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Completes his 15th century before falling to Southee, well played Virat!

Without him Ind would have been bundled out for 200 odd.
 
Umar Akmal...Open your eyes wide

Kohli 's recent Test record reads: 75, 116, 22, 58, 101*. Consistency is the key to becoming a great player
 
Even though he got out on 103,but you can see him being very disappointed,not satisfied with that score.....

I like that!
 
withlovefrom vizag said:
Even though he got out on 103,but you can see him being very disappointed,not satisfied with that score.....

I like that!
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In hind sight he should have carried on, for another 50 runs atleast. His dismissal triggered a mega collapse. Somehow I feel it was not the kind of delivery that deserved a wicket, to which he got out.
 
How far will Kohli go?

Will he overhaul Sachin's records? will his name end up with greats like Lara, Ponting Kallis, Sobers, Comptons.

What is Virat Kohli's ceiling?
 
Wherever he goes, I hope he stays grounded and wins more matches for the country
 
Marshland said:
Higher than Umar Akmal. :)
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dude that thread got closed by mods. :yk

personally, the guy reminds me of ponting more than sachin. he has potential to average 50+ in tests and odis.

if keeps this work ethic, nothing is stopping him.
 
60 averaging test batsman at home,

40 away from home

all together 50 averaging test batsman.
 
Akmal can still go on to become a good batsman... but Kohli is right up there ATM
 
keep dreaming
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depends..he's having nice purple patch at the moment but can he continue this?? will the fame and partying come a knocking??
 
Breaking records will depend on how long he plays for, how much time he spends injured, and how many games India play.

One thing that can be said though, is that if he continues this form, he has the potential to be regarded as one of the greatest players ever.
 
He has wonderful potential but more importantly he seems to have good work ethos. That says alot about him and where he is going as a cricketer.

I will reserve my judgement until he cements his place in the test arena and has been successful outside of the SC (let's say at least 2 tours overseas (Eng / Aus and SA?).
 
Kohli is on track to be a great of the game and depending on how he progresses, can reach legendary status one day. In terms of breaking records, he will most likely beat Sachin's ODI records. But I don't think he has a chance of reaching his test records.

Kohli is 24 in November. He currently has 2 test 100s @ 41 and 13 ODI 100s @ 52.
At 24, Tendulkar had 11 test 100s @ 50 and 11 ODI 100s @ 40.
 
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On a serious note, barring any serious injuries he has a great future ahead.

"LEGEND"ARY Status included!
 
talha3 said:
Kohli is 24 in November. He currently has 2 test 100s @ 41 and 13 ODI 100s @ 52.
At 24, Tendulkar had 11 test 100s at 50 and 11 ODI 100s @ 40.
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Shows how good Sachin was! To maintain that for over 20 years is just incredible!!
 
he is mentally very strong he has an epic temperament for a clutch situation and when you combine that with his batting skills its a scary combo.

Incredible cricket/
 
Sachin making sure that kohli spends his best years batting at no 5 and can't touch his records. :yk. :))
 
Sachin's run scoring + MSD's finishing = KOHLI

He is simply sensational while chasing :)

It will be fun to see two great batsmen in Amla n Kohli competing for the 'greatest' tag. Kohli's got the advantage of age on his side.
 
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Eventhough I am a Pakistani and hated that we lost to India in the Asia Cup.. but one thing I took from that match was that I love watching Kohli play...
Dude's got talent and the ability to accelerate at will.. I havent seen anyone score so consistentetly in crunch situations like he has in the past year or so...
 
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