Virat Kohli - The Mega Discussion

Having kept Kohli to just the one run in the 35th over, Faulkner attempted to engage the Indian in a meeting of the minds, earning this stunning rebuke from the batsman.

“You’re wasting your energy,” Kohli said.

“Smile,” Faulkner replied.

“There’s no point,” rebutted Kohli.

“Having fun aren’t we?” inquired the Australian

“I’ve smashed you enough in my life. No point, just go and bowl,” Kohli answered.


Brutal. :kohli

Unfortunately, Australia have smashed India enough in his lifetime as well.

These kinds of talks always look fairly stupid when you are at the end of another phainty. Reminds of Kohli talking smack to Mitch when India was once again getting their behinds handed back to them by the Aussies.

But credit to Kohli. Unlike other desi cricketers he can sledge back in kind and is quick on his feet despite coming across a bit comical when you look at the larger context of the game
 
These kinds of talks always look fairly stupid when you are at the end of another phainty. Reminds of Kohli talking smack to Mitch when India was once again getting their behinds handed back to them by the Aussies.

But credit to Kohli. Unlike other desi cricketers he can sledge back in kind and is quick on his feet despite coming across a bit comical when you look at the larger context of the game

You kidding? That on field duel between MJ and Kohli was fantastic to watch and was one of the highlight of that test series for me. Even if your team is losing, if you aren't able to sledge back when the opposition bowler is sledging the hell out of you, you'll come across as weak and a meek character and the bowler will only take more advantage of you.
 
These kinds of talks always look fairly stupid when you are at the end of another phainty. Reminds of Kohli talking smack to Mitch when India was once again getting their behinds handed back to them by the Aussies.

But credit to Kohli. Unlike other desi cricketers he can sledge back in kind and is quick on his feet despite coming across a bit comical when you look at the larger context of the game


Kohli has scored prolifically in this series as well as last test series in Australia. It's not his fault that his team lost.
 
Socring these run a ball centuries on these tracks is not called smashing...
It's what you expect from players like Amla to score run a ball. Not match winners like Kohli think of himself or you guys think of him.

Apart from some innings on reallly flat flat tracks, Kohli as just be an accumulator like Amla in ODI's. This style of play is loosing India a lot of matches. Scoring runs in not any problem in this era of ODI cricket. The thing is how you score them. And Kohli is from those who scores them too slowly.

Saying something positive about Indian batsmen for once won't decrease your age ya know.
 
Deserves to be full time captain of India across formats. Should be a formality after another disastrous series under Dhoni's stale and gutless leadership in the ongoing ODI series.

I read someone wrote " His ODI batting is no longer the same" this after 3 matches in which he has 267 runs @90 with a SR of 95+! Shows you the high standards at which he is expected to perform.
 
These kinds of talks always look fairly stupid when you are at the end of another phainty. Reminds of Kohli talking smack to Mitch when India was once again getting their behinds handed back to them by the Aussies.

But credit to Kohli. Unlike other desi cricketers he can sledge back in kind and is quick on his feet despite coming across a bit comical when you look at the larger context of the game

Not really. You think Wahab's theatrics against Watson looked stupid just because Pakistan suffered an epic phainty?

This is called passion. Cricket is a team sport, so results vary. But on a personal level, Kohli did own Faulkner many times.
 
You kidding? That on field duel between MJ and Kohli was fantastic to watch and was one of the highlight of that test series for me. Even if your team is losing, if you aren't able to sledge back when the opposition bowler is sledging the hell out of you, you'll come across as weak and a meek character and the bowler will only take more advantage of you.

Fair enough, but when Sohail Khan did every one pointed that he is on losing side so he should remain cool and calm and also his act was declared as stupid :))
 
Fair enough, but when Sohail Khan did every one pointed that he is on losing side so he should remain cool and calm and also his act was declared as stupid :))

If it was Manish Pandey saying those things to Faulkner or Barinder Sran/Rishi Dhawan trying these tricks with Steve Smith, they will get termed as a clown as well. These rookies need to do something in your career before running their mouths on the field'
 
Fair enough, but when Sohail Khan did every one pointed that he is on losing side so he should remain cool and calm and also his act was declared as stupid :))

Bro, there is a difference between giving back in kind when your rival player sledges you on field, and giving a random media "ghar ka kohli" kinda statement about your opposition's star player when you're yet to play your 10th match in international cricket.
 
Saying something positive about Indian batsmen for once won't decrease your age ya know.

You guys accepting that no current Indian batsman is a top 3 or even top 5 batsman in the world will not decrease your love for India.
Scoring 300 odd runs against this attack on these pitches are under par scores so you have to blame the batsmen that have brought you to 300... Kohli's under par SR has a lot to do with it...

My analysis method is the same for Pakistani, Australian and witchever batsmen.
 
Bro, there is a difference between giving back in kind when your rival player sledges you on field, and giving a random media "ghar ka kohli" kinda statement about your opposition's star player when you're yet to play your 10th match in international cricket.

The point is, when he took the wicket of Kohli, still every one made fun of him saying that he shouldn't enjoy this wicket because Kohli owned whole Pakistan team.. (Although Kohli didn't perform well against him)

But the same thing people not applying here, and saying it's good to see passion by Kohli and all. Why double standards ??
 
You guys accepting that no current Indian batsman is a top 3 or even top 5 batsman in the world will not decrease your love for India.
Scoring 300 odd runs against this attack on these pitches are under par scores so you have to blame the batsmen that have brought you to 300... Kohli's under par SR has a lot to do with it...

My analysis method is the same for Pakistani, Australian and witchever batsmen.

Lol yet the same Pak fans adore Amla who has very similar stats to Kohli and often plays slower. Wonder why?
 
Lol yet the same Pak fans adore Amla who has very similar stats to Kohli and often plays slower. Wonder why?

I am no flag bearer for Pakistani fans on the forum!

Amla also plays too slowly some times and is not a better ODI batsman than Kohli. But they are different.

Amla has a better technique si he uses the powerplay well and get ahead of the scoring when he plays well but still strugle to accelerate later in the innings. Kohli on the other hand is more a surviver in the first overs and despite not being a great accelerator in the Rohit Sharma mould he accelerate better.

All things looked at, I will say they are on par.
 
The point is, when he took the wicket of Kohli, still every one made fun of him saying that he shouldn't enjoy this wicket because Kohli owned whole Pakistan team.. (Although Kohli didn't perform well against him)

But the same thing people not applying here, and saying it's good to see passion by Kohli and all. Why double standards ??

Eho said Sohail shouldn't celebrate? I was a lurker during the WC match, but as far as I know, Pak fans were saying Sohail Khan owned Kohli and Indian fans were saying vice versa. I don't remember people making fun of Sohail's celebration. Yes, people would've made fun of him when he made that statement which is understandable but not after taking his wicket.
 
Lol yet the same Pak fans adore Amla who has very similar stats to Kohli and often plays slower. Wonder why?

You've become very anti-Pakistani recently, I wonder why. Amla scores a-run-a-ball centuries on pitches where Kohli would get owned by any good bowler. Kohli's strength was being a terrific chaser and having that extra-gear which someone like Amla lacks. He isn't playing the game in the manner that made his famous and that is a problem for India.
 
You've become very anti-Pakistani recently, I wonder why. Amla scores a-run-a-ball centuries on pitches where Kohli would get owned by any good bowler. Kohli's strength was being a terrific chaser and having that extra-gear which someone like Amla lacks. He isn't playing the game in the manner that made his famous and that is a problem for India.

Which pitches are these?
 
Please stop trolling, its a serious thread. Thanks

Bro, you should feel the same for others also. You were doing the same in Perera thread, why didn't you feel that it was serious thread and you were trolling? Or it's perfectly right to troll NON Indian players, and when ever some body speak something about your favorite players, then it seems trolling??

At least bro, set a same standard for your self and for other members, don't do discrimination. Thanks but no thanks and welcome :)
 
You are making up things to praise Amla if you think South African pitches are much more difficult to bat on than other countries in ODIs.

How many times did India score 200 in the last series that took place between the two teams in South Africa? The one in which the last match was washed away and saved India more embarassment.

I suggest you educate yourself on the diversity of South African pitches before accusing someone of lying.
 
The point is, when he took the wicket of Kohli, still every one made fun of him saying that he shouldn't enjoy this wicket because Kohli owned whole Pakistan team.. (Although Kohli didn't perform well against him)

But the same thing people not applying here, and saying it's good to see passion by Kohli and all. Why double standards ??
No one atleast from India complained about Sohail Khan's spat with Kohli. He was making a joke of himself in the middle that is a different story. It was Pakistan captain Misbah who understood the gravity of the situation and asked him to shut up. There are few players who can sledge and looks good on them. Likes of Kohli, McGrath, Ponting Warne, Steyn, Gayle, Pollard, KP etc. looks good while sledging. From Pakistan Ahmed Sehzad can sledge well. But there are certain players who dnt know how to sledge and make fool of themselves. For example Rohit Sharma, dude simply cannot sledge. If he gets open his mouth it sounds like a rant more than sledging. Sohail Khan made similar situation for him in that game. He thought he will have a go at Kohli and people will percieve it as giving it back. On the contrary it looked ugly and Misbah understood it.

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Averaging 44 in Test, 51 in ODIs and 44 in T20 with decent looking strike rate across all formats, Only the best can achieve such stats.
 
wickets are only difficult if AB and Amla scores on them.. and the ones they fail on are absolute minefields thus unfair pitches which aren't good for cricket
 
Not really. You think Wahab's theatrics against Watson looked stupid just because Pakistan suffered an epic phainty?

This is called passion. Cricket is a team sport, so results vary. But on a personal level, Kohli did own Faulkner many times.

Oooooooooooooohhhhh, SMACKDOWN, that was an epic reply, slamdunk, out of the park :yk2
 
Virat to reclaim his #1 ODI Batsman status.

The countdown begins. Match winning 137,coming up today. You heard it here first.
 
If Virat Kohli was born Waleed Khaled instead and had a nice long beard with which he scored a 400 while fasting, this thread would be much more peaceful. Him being cocky or arrogant is used an excuse to water down his achievements and mask insecurities. #holykohli #hardtruth

Kohli tou Kohli, par usnay inki khol di. :kohli
 
If Virat Kohli was born Waleed Khaled instead and had a nice long beard with which he scored a 400 while fasting, this thread would be much more peaceful. Him being cocky or arrogant is used an excuse to water down his achievements and mask insecurities. #holykohli #hardtruth

Kohli tou Kohli, par usnay inki khol di. :kohli
The problem is not Kohli's batting itself it's the indian and also general like you.

Kohli is very good batsman, he is surely in the top 10. But Indians have a habit to compare their players to bigger players that are way better than theirs.

At this stage of their career, ABDV is way better than Kohli, and in ODI's he will always be better.

Then you have a thread Kohli the new Ponting when in reality Kohli should be compared to players like Root, Williamson, Smith and even their he looses but at least it's comparable.

Rahane vs Root I have just seen. Root is far far ahead of Rahane who is a good batsman also.
 
If Virat Kohli was born Waleed Khaled instead and had a nice long beard with which he scored a 400 while fasting, this thread would be much more peaceful. Him being cocky or arrogant is used an excuse to water down his achievements and mask insecurities. #holykohli #hardtruth

Kohli tou Kohli, par usnay inki khol di. :kohli

Lol at Waleed Khaled:)))
 
The problem is not Kohli's batting itself it's the indian and also general like you.

Kohli is very good batsman, he is surely in the top 10. But Indians have a habit to compare their players to bigger players that are way better than theirs.

At this stage of their career, ABDV is way better than Kohli, and in ODI's he will always be better.

Then you have a thread Kohli the new Ponting when in reality Kohli should be compared to players like Root, Williamson, Smith and even their he looses but at least it's comparable.

Rahane vs Root I have just seen. Root is far far ahead of Rahane who is a good batsman also.

What else does your crystal ball tell you?

All of this is your opinion. You are saying things like Kohli and Rahane lose against Root like it is a fact. People are free to have their own opinion. If someone believes something else, it doesn't mean it is a problem with Indians.
 
What else does your crystal ball tell you?

All of this is your opinion. You are saying things like Kohli and Rahane lose against Root like it is a fact. People are free to have their own opinion. If someone believes something else, it doesn't mean it is a problem with Indians.
It's not about a crystal ball when you have seen both of them playing over 150 games.
 
I think not knowing how much is enough held Kohli back in the previous matches.

Look at him go today! :kohli #legend
 
Kohli shutting the haters up in style.

Like only he does.

Greatest chaser ever after Dhoni.


25th hundred coming
wait for it.
 
The problem is not Kohli's batting itself it's the indian and also general like you.

Kohli is very good batsman, he is surely in the top 10. But Indians have a habit to compare their players to bigger players that are way better than theirs.

At this stage of their career, ABDV is way better than Kohli, and in ODI's he will always be better.

Then you have a thread Kohli the new Ponting when in reality Kohli should be compared to players like Root, Williamson, Smith and even their he looses but at least it's comparable.

Rahane vs Root I have just seen. Root is far far ahead of Rahane who is a good batsman also.

Why not just say that every non Indian batsman and bowler and wicketkeeper and fielder and captain and vice captain is better than every Indian batsman and bowler and wicketkeeper and fielder and captain and vice captain in history.
 
35.1 Hastings to Kohli, 2 runs, after missing out on a hundred at the WACA, he told Wasim Akram that he'll score two hundreds in the series and he's kept his word. What a champion! Hundred number 25 in ODIs. Back-to-back hundreds for him as well. Put in him a big run chase and he hardly fails.

The master ! :bow: :bow:
 
Wasim was saying in the post match interview during the last match that after Kohli had missed his century by a few runs trying to hit out in the first match, Wasim had went to kohli and told him that he had missed out on his ton. Apparently, Kohli had said to him that "Don't worry wasim bhai, I'll make sure that I atleast get two centuries this series".

Whatever the bowling may be, must admire the confidence of this young man:kohli
 
He is the greatest odi batsman of this generation without a doubt. Clearly ahead of abdv and amla.

Soon be ahead of sachin.
 
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Beast. What a beast. Greatest ODI bat of this generation anyway.
 
Thank you Wasim bhai for the motivation. :)

25th hundred.

Greatest ODI batsman in the world.

Ultimate chaser.

Kohli >>>> ABD
 
Amazing gun chaser.

Amla is not even close when chasing totals like this.
 
Greatest ODI batsman of this generation indeed, ahead of de Villiers. Amla bhai is nowhere close, but he's certainly a better human being.
 
Sachin will always be Sachin.

He is untouchable brother. Greatest of all time.

Was , not anymore. Even though the pitches are tailor made for batsmen these days but scoring 15 tons while chasing in such small number of matches. Sachin could not even have imagined it and kohli is doing it day in day out. Sachin of course is the greatest batsman of all time when you consider his overall batsman ship in tests and Odis but in Odis kohli has another level. He needs a couple of good world cups though.
 
Teammates letting him down now. Dhoni should retire.

India are missing Raina.
 
It's not about a crystal ball when you have seen both of them playing over 150 games.

I don't know how watching lots of cricket gives anyone any credibility. You can make a ****** read an encyclopedia, but he'd still be a ****** because they quite simply lack the aptitude to make any good use of the data/information in front of them. For example, a lot of sports commentators are completely wrong a lot of the time.
 
A knock of lifetime, the one against a top team in their backyard while chasing a huge total, has just been thrown away.
 
Ohh Boy this chase reminds me of SRT of the 90s, as usual once SRT got out rest of the team falls like a deck of cards..... Sanju Samson needs to be in the side..
 
Bad luck Kohli & Dhawan. No support from the othe lallu's at all.
 
Kohli should feel hard done by.

Timed his chase perfectly.

If anything, maybe he shouldn't have played that shot.

But you expect the middle order to at least take you home from this point.
 
Really enjoyed his innings today, hard luck. 25 centuries already for him, brilliant player.
 
What a player he is. I wish we had someone like him. Already an odi great in my books. Unfortunate that his 25th century was in a loss.

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Greatest ODI batsman of this generation indeed, ahead of de Villiers. Amla bhai is nowhere close, but he's certainly a better human being.

The poster seems to lack resilience just like de Villiers.That's why he posted before Kohli could finish the game and we ended up losing the game. Next time onwards please wait for us to win the game and then you can show your special love for South African cricket.
 
The poster seems to lack resilience just like de Villiers.That's why he posted before Kohli could finish the game and we ended up losing the game. Next time onwards please wait for us to win the game and then you can show your special love for South African cricket.

:)))

I love when all these posters get ahead of themselves. Had this been Amla, who bats even higher up the order or de Villiers who bats with an even more incompetent lower-order, you would have seen the nerds rage at them not finishing the game off.

Kohli is just racking up meaningless runs in this series, three 90+ scores and not a single victory is criminal stuff.

Second chase that the ATG chaser of all time and ABD's superior, has botched in the last two series. He's lost his strengths and that is not going to help him knock AB off his perch anytime soon.
 
:)))

I love when all these posters get ahead of themselves. Had this been Amla, who bats even higher up the order or de Villiers who bats with an even more incompetent lower-order, you would have seen the nerds rage at them not finishing the game off.

Kohli is just racking up meaningless runs in this series, three 90+ scores and not a single victory is criminal stuff.

Second chase that the ATG chaser of all time and ABD's superior, has botched in the last two series. He's lost his strengths and that is not going to help him knock AB off his perch anytime soon.

Someone tell this guy that cricket is played with 11 players per team not 1.
 
:)))

I love when all these posters get ahead of themselves. Had this been Amla, who bats even higher up the order or de Villiers who bats with an even more incompetent lower-order, you would have seen the nerds rage at them not finishing the game off.

Kohli is just racking up meaningless runs in this series, three 90+ scores and not a single victory is criminal stuff.

Second chase that the ATG chaser of all time and ABD's superior, has botched in the last two series. He's lost his strengths and that is not going to help him knock AB off his perch anytime soon.

AB de Villiers is the greatest ODI bat right now.
Period.
Even Kohli isn't as good for me as AB de Villiers.

But Amla is much much below Kohli in the chasing ladder.

Truth hurts but it is the truth.

Amla couldn't even dream of hitting a century and playing the way Kohli played tonight. He failed and that is what you can laugh about. But you can't compare his innings of substance to the one of Amla, which would be just worthless when chasing 348.
 
Although I loved Kohli's inning and just like I mentioned a lifetime knock well he was batting like a dream today.But if I try to be a bit strict like a few posters have been in last couple of weeks I would say it was just an another knock of 106 of 92 balls which nowadays anyone can play.
 
Although I loved Kohli's inning and just like I mentioned a lifetime knock well he was batting like a dream today.But if I try to be a bit strict like a few posters have been in last couple of weeks I would say it was just an another knock of 106 of 92 balls which nowadays anyone can play.

Can they play it chasing 348 and help their team get to 270-1 in 37 overs though?

That's the real question.
 
Can they play it chasing 348 and help their team get to 270-1 in 37 overs though?

That's the real question.

There is a reason I mentioned lifetime knock. BTW on Pakpassion, what kohli dis today is called bottling. ABD did that quite a few times.As far as your question, AB would have played an equally brilliant knock like Kohli did may be not better.
 
There is a reason I mentioned lifetime knock. BTW on Pakpassion, what kohli dis today is called bottling. ABD did that quite a few times.As far as your question, AB would have played an equally brilliant knock like Kohli did may be not better.

I regard AB as the finest of his generation.

He is a notch above Kohli for me anyways because of the knocks he can play.

But barring AB, no one can match Kohli in the type of knocks they play.

So no, it's not easy to score like Kohli did today.

Yes, you could call it bottling, if he departed with one or two overs left and a tough target. When 8 of your teammates are to come in, and you need barely 50 runs, it's cruel to call it a bottle.
 
I regard AB as the finest of his generation.

He is a notch above Kohli for me anyways because of the knocks he can play.

But barring AB, no one can match Kohli in the type of knocks they play.

So no, it's not easy to score like Kohli did today.

Yes, you could call it bottling, if he departed with one or two overs left and a tough target. When 8 of your teammates are to come in, and you need barely 50 runs, it's cruel to call it a bottle.

Never disagreed with each of the words you mentioned. I have exactly the same thought.BTW I said on Pakpassion it is said bottling its not me though.
 
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AB de Villiers is the greatest ODI bat right now.
Period.
Even Kohli isn't as good for me as AB de Villiers.

But Amla is much much below Kohli in the chasing ladder.

Truth hurts but it is the truth.

Amla couldn't even dream of hitting a century and playing the way Kohli played tonight. He failed and that is what you can laugh about. But you can't compare his innings of substance to the one of Amla, which would be just worthless when chasing 348.

The ODI batsmen ranking for this generation is ABD > Amla >= Kohli. They are all on the same level.

Amla is certainly capable of scoring magnificent hundreds while his teammates fall all around him. What he can't do is bat out the entire 50 overs and take his team home, partly because he's an opener and partly because that is not his strength.

Kohli is expected to finish chases off but this is the second botched one I've seen from him in the last two series. This innings is worthless since it did nothing for the team and Kohli himself would call it worthless.
 
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