Virat Kohli - The Mega Discussion

[Indiafan]

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I love when all these posters get ahead of themselves. Had this been Amla, who bats even higher up the order or de Villiers who bats with an even more incompetent lower-order, you would have seen the nerds rage at them not finishing the game off.

Kohli is just racking up meaningless runs in this series, three 90+ scores and not a single victory is criminal stuff.

Second chase that the ATG chaser of all time and ABD's superior, has botched in the last two series. He's lost his strengths and that is not going to help him knock AB off his perch anytime soon.

Absolute lack of cricket knowledge being displayed here. Yes a batsman should take 5 wickets after scoring over 300. This is like blaming the bowlers for Sydney test.

 

[JaDed]

The ODI batsmen ranking for this generation is ABD > Amla >= Kohli. They are all on the same level.

Amla is certainly capable of scoring magnificent hundreds while his teammates fall all around him. What he can't do is bat out the entire 50 overs and take his team home, partly because he's an opener and partly because that is not his strength.

Kohli is expected to finish chases off but this is the second botched one I've seen from him in the last two series. This innings is worthless since it did nothing for the team and Kohli himself would call it worthless.

He comes one down he is not from the middle order to finish the match ,his responsibility is to build an innings when the opener fails or make us reach near the target while chasing ,one of which he accomplished today.Hypocrisy honestly, 1 down batsmen should chase 348 target?

 

[shebimalik]

This was 9th century for Virat Kohli in INTL matches in Australia, jointly the most by any visiting player in AUS. Gower/Hobbs also scored 9.

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[shebimalik]

Most INTL 100s against Australia:
20 Tendulkar,
12 JHobbs/BLara,
11 DGower/DHaynes/VKohli,
10 VVS Laxman.

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[shebimalik]

Before this series only 2 of Kohli's 23 ODI tons had been in losses. Now gonna b 4 out of 25.
Aussies have the answer to every damn thing.

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[Bilal7]

Absolute lack of cricket knowledge being displayed here. Yes a batsman should take 5 wickets after scoring over 300. This is like blaming the bowlers for Sydney test.

If you read my post carefully enough, you would figure out that I was taking a dig at posters who are quick to say that Amla or AB bottled a chase even after they have gone above and beyond to ensure that their team wins and were only let down by their team-mates.

He comes one down he is not from the middle order to finish the match ,his responsibility is to build an innings when the opener fails or make us reach near the target while chasing ,one of which he accomplished today.Hypocrisy honestly, 1 down batsmen should chase 348 target?

Yes, that is what he is famous for. If he can't then that is fine but he doesn't deserve to be called the best chaser of all time, if he can't play like one.

 

[shebimalik]

2 - Virat Kohli has now recorded as many ODI 100s in 2016 (2 from 4 innings) as he managed across all of 2015 (2 from 20 innings). Form.

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[shebimalik]

Fewest inns to 25th ODI 100
162 Virat Kohli
234 Sachin Tendulkar
279 Ricky Ponting
373 Sanath Jayasuriya
379 Kumar Sangakkara

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[JaDed]

If you read my post carefully enough, you would figure out that I was taking a dig at posters who are quick to say that Amla or AB bottled a chase even after they have gone above and beyond to ensure that their team wins and were only let down by their team-mates.



Yes, that is what he is famous for. If he can't then that is fine but he doesn't deserve to be called the best chaser of all time, if he can't play like one.

He is famous for setting up the chase and rightly so didn't crumble under the scoreboard pressure(348) and the word is "scoreboard" he gave the middle order on a platter run a ball to finish the game and too under 60 runs.Not sure if you expect him to stay till end in a chase of 348 runs?
He is not the best chaser but he is defn among the top 10 chasers.

 

[Bilal7]

He is famous for setting up the chase and rightly so didn't crumble under the scoreboard pressure(348) and the word is "scoreboard" he gave the middle order on a platter run a ball to finish the game and too under 60 runs.Not sure if you expect him to stay till end in a chase of 348 runs?
He is not the best chaser but he is defn among the top 10 chasers.

He is famous and overrated for his chasing ability. If you don't rate him as the best chaser of all time and don't use other, more ridiculous parameters to overrate him, then my post wasn't for you.

 

[Chrish]

AB > Kohli >>> others

 

[JaDed]

He is famous and overrated for his chasing ability. If you don't rate him as the best chaser of all time and don't use other, more ridiculous parameters to overrate him, then my post wasn't for you.

Who is the best chaser in your opinion?

 

[Mamoon]

The poster seems to lack resilience just like de Villiers.That's why he posted before Kohli could finish the game and we ended up losing the game. Next time onwards please wait for us to win the game and then you can show your special love for South African cricket.

Not Kohli's problem Indian lower order bottled it. He has been excellent in this series.

Dhoni is past it and India need Raina back. Rohit and Kohli have been star performers this series, no one can blame them.

 

[Indiafan]

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I love when all these posters get ahead of themselves. Had this been Amla, who bats even higher up the order or de Villiers who bats with an even more incompetent lower-order, you would have seen the nerds rage at them not finishing the game off.

Kohli is just racking up meaningless runs in this series, three 90+ scores and not a single victory is criminal stuff.

Second chase that the ATG chaser of all time and ABD's superior, has botched in the last two series. He's lost his strengths and that is not going to help him knock AB off his perch anytime soon.

Meaningless knocks indeed. Someone doesn't know that a score of 348 is NEVER chased by one or two players. A question of bottling doesn't even arise.

 

[Indiafan]

He is famous and overrated for his chasing ability. If you don't rate him as the best chaser of all time and don't use other, more ridiculous parameters to overrate him, then my post wasn't for you.

Does being the best chaser mean chasing EVERY match he plays just like being the best player mean scoring a 100 every game? Is that even possible? Best chaser just mean being better than the otehrs

 

[Ab Fan]

In terms of chasing - Kohli> AB> others. Overall- AB> Kohli>others..

 

[Sandeep]

Some ridiculous posters exists. Ignore and move on.

And Amla > Kohli...


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[in_cutter]

He is famous and overrated for his chasing ability. If you don't rate him as the best chaser of all time and don't use other, more ridiculous parameters to overrate him, then my post wasn't for you.

Overrated for his chasing? Nobody comes close to him. You just won't admit it.

 

[Ankit007]

He is famous and overrated for his chasing ability. If you don't rate him as the best chaser of all time and don't use other, more ridiculous parameters to overrate him, then my post wasn't for you.

Can you name any player better than him in chasing. I dont know why you spill only hate against Indian players only.

 

[Anchorman]

There hasn't been a mention of the exchanges between Faulkner and him in the 4th ODI. Kohli cradling the bat and teasing Faulkner when the latter missed a run-out opportunity.

Also, he scored 29 runs from the 16 balls Faulkner bowled at him. Another day, another smashing for Faulkner, another smashing for India.

 

[aniket1911]

I for one is pleased to see return of his crease authoritiveness and aura of an ATG batsmen which was sadly missing last year even when he scored hundreds.
You can't blame some posters for ridiculing him. When a batsman is set to become ATG even his Minor hiccups will be considered severe allergies. His faults which is not his own doing in first place will be used to undermine him. Part and parcel of becoming an ATG player and we should be happy that even his critics has set bar so high for him that even if he fail to reach that level he will still be considered ATG player.
You are asked to set-up and chase 348 by yourself ? Seriously

 

[Indian_Supporter]

Why are posters bringing Amla here? He is definitely few levels below the likes of AB and Kohli as far as ODI cricket is concerned. With age not on his side dont see Amla ever reaching to these players level ever.

AB, Kohli, Smith, Kane and Root are top 5 batsman for me.

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[TurkishCricketFan]

Dont really like him, but have to admit he is really really good. Size of this Topic is a testament to that.

 

[Vayuu]

Before this series only 2 of Kohli's 23 ODI tons had been in losses. Now gonna b 4 out of 25.
Aussies have the answer to every damn thing.

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More like Indian lower order.

 

[MenInG]

http://sports.ndtv.com/australia-vs...ed:+ndtv/qJNd+(CRICKETNDTV.COM+-+Latest+News)

Sydney: The Canberra ODI saw the second part of the now-famous Virat Kohli-James Faulkner banter almost bordering on a sledge, with the Indian superstar trying to upset the Australian all-rounder during another of his superlative innings.

During the Melbourne match, when Faulkner tried to instigate Kohli, the Indian batsman's

In Canberra, Kohli started from where he left at MCG, belting the left-armer for 29 runs off 16 deliveries, which included four boundaries and a six.

But according to Australian newspaper 'Perth Now', when Faulkner missed a chance to run Kohli out, the Indian vice-captain did not miss an opportunity to ask the Aussie as to why he was "fast asleep".

Two days back, Kohli, while interacting with fans on Indian team's Facebook page, said: "The opposition has every right to use that as long as it doesn't cross the line. And you have every right to reply as long as it doesn't cross the line again.

"I think there have been a lot of smart comments over the years and mine turned out to be a perfectly timed one. I didn't intend to do that, I just said what came to mind, which was actually not far off from the truth. That banter is enjoyable on the field but at the same time you need to focus on your game. That was a fun moment, I guess."

 

[Bhaijaan]

http://sports.ndtv.com/australia-vs...ed:+ndtv/qJNd+(CRICKETNDTV.COM+-+Latest+News)

Sydney: The Canberra ODI saw the second part of the now-famous Virat Kohli-James Faulkner banter almost bordering on a sledge, with the Indian superstar trying to upset the Australian all-rounder during another of his superlative innings.

During the Melbourne match, when Faulkner tried to instigate Kohli, the Indian batsman's

In Canberra, Kohli started from where he left at MCG, belting the left-armer for 29 runs off 16 deliveries, which included four boundaries and a six.

But according to Australian newspaper 'Perth Now', when Faulkner missed a chance to run Kohli out, the Indian vice-captain did not miss an opportunity to ask the Aussie as to why he was "fast asleep".

Two days back, Kohli, while interacting with fans on Indian team's Facebook page, said: "The opposition has every right to use that as long as it doesn't cross the line. And you have every right to reply as long as it doesn't cross the line again.

"I think there have been a lot of smart comments over the years and mine turned out to be a perfectly timed one. I didn't intend to do that, I just said what came to mind, which was actually not far off from the truth. That banter is enjoyable on the field but at the same time you need to focus on your game. That was a fun moment, I guess."

He is turning into an unfunny yet equally effective version of Sehwag/Javed Miandad. Love it when batsmen show the guts to sledge bowlers. He also put Mitchell Johnson in his place last year.

 

[Bhaijaan]

The champ is back in form.

 

[Mamoon]

Best T20 batsman in the world.

 

[dandapinda]

Best T20 batsman in the world.

International?? Not sure..

Domestic no way.

 

[Mamoon]

de Villiers has been below bar in T20Is, so if we consider both ODIs and T20s, Kohli is comfortably ahead.

 

[Mamoon]

International?? Not sure..

Domestic no way.

Don't care about domestic. No one is better in International T20s on performance.

 

[dandapinda]

Don't care about domestic. No one is better in International T20s on performance.

Gayle/Finch have

 

[Indian_Supporter]

International?? Not sure..

Domestic no way.

What you saying man? Check Kohli's record in international T20s. He is the best and most consistent T20 batsman ever. Yes agree in IPL he is a flop though.

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[Mamoon]

Gayle/Finch have

Gayle hasn't performed in T20Is consistently for a while. Finch is great but not on Asian wickets.

 

[Mobashir]

de Villiers has been below bar in T20Is, so if we consider both ODIs and T20s, Kohli is comfortably ahead.

Usual Pathetic comment when Talking about Kohli and ABDV...

You can't weight T20I as much as ODI's. They play 3-4 T20's a year!

 

[Mobashir]

Kohli is doing what he does best : Smashing a club level attack

I am sure FC and Mamoon both see what happened when Starc, Hazlewwod and Jhoson were playing...

Both of you pretend to not judge players on records but on quality of opposition they are scoring against contest etc...

 

[street cricketer]

Kohli is doing what he does best : Smashing a club level attack

I am sure FC and Mamoon both see what happened when Starc, Hazlewwod and Jhoson were playing...

Both of you pretend to not judge players on records but on quality of opposition they are scoring against contest etc...

It must be really hard for you watching this

 

[Sidilicious]

Kohli is doing what he does best : Smashing a club level attack

I am sure FC and Mamoon both see what happened when Starc, Hazlewwod and Jhoson were playing...

Both of you pretend to not judge players on records but on quality of opposition they are scoring against contest etc...

4 centuries in 4 tests IIRC

 

[LastManstanding]

4 centuries in 4 tests IIRC

Being one eyed, one tends to miss certain events.

 

[Bhaijaan]

4 centuries in 4 tests IIRC

Why did you have to ruin his fun?

 

[Mobashir]

It must be really hard for you watching this

No actually I am enjoying every match, 4-1 in ODI's.

India will probably also loose that one with 188.
I think 200 was par here.

 

[Mobashir]

Being one eyed, one tends to miss certain events.

4 centuries in 4 tests IIRC

Why did you have to ruin his fun?

I tought we were talking about ODI's.

He had a brilliant test series. The 1st hundred was magnificent. The failure in Brisbane was normal as the pitch had a litle bit in it.
The two last test matches were pathetic for test cricket.

 

[street cricketer]

No actually I am enjoying every match, 4-1 in ODI's.

India will probably also loose that one with 188.
I think 200 was par here.

It's funny because I never see you commenting on Pakistan matches or players.

I think you should get a lifetime achievement award from the PCB for your valuable services

 

[Zak_Fan]

4 centuries in 4 tests IIRC

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Go easy bro, he is having a bad day.

 

[Mobashir]

It's funny because I never see you commenting on Pakistan matches or players.

I think you should get a lifetime achievement award from the PCB for your valuable services

You are pretty new on PP, that's why!

I am not only a Pakistan cricket team fan but a cricket fan.

 

[Indiafan]

Some Pak fans who say that Umar is sent so late he has to hit out should see this innings. Not a single shot in anger. Risk free shots played on merit. Difference between Umar and Kohli is not the talent but that Umar plays too many risky, glory shots.

 

[Indiafan]

International?? Not sure..

Domestic no way.

Do you even watch international T20 or only IPL?

 

[street cricketer]

You are pretty new on PP, that's why!

I am not only a Pakistan cricket team fan but a cricket fan.

No, I've been a lurker long enough Mr. Bashir... 95% of your posts are moans about either Sachin (in past) or Kohli (now). That's why I think you should get your rightful award

 

[Mobashir]

Don't care about domestic. No one is better in International T20s on performance.

Gayle/Finch have

Gayle hasn't performed in T20Is consistently for a while. Finch is great but not on Asian wickets.

So far the best T20 International batsman is KP and that by a long way.

He has a corwl cup to his country and has performed against the best.

Pakistan had the best attack in the world for a long time and he smashed us every match he played against us.

Talking about Finch here shows that you have lost it... He is not even a contender.

 

[Mamoon]

Kohli scores and ronay dhonay shoru. There is always an Indian batsman who gives us stomach bugs. First it was Tendulkar for the better part of two decades and now it's Kohli. Why do we do this to ourselves? Just accept that he's a phenomenal batsman and move on.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Kohli scores and ronay dhonay shoru. There is always an Indian batsman who gives us stomach bugs. First it was Tendulkar for the better part of two decades and now it's Kohli. Why do we do this to ourselves? Just accept that he's a phenomenal batsman and move on.

Is it just the madrassa mentality or like posh school kids in Pakistan are also like that?

 

[Mamoon]

Pietersen doesn't play anymore. If we talk about it since the inception of T20s, then McCullum will be up there as well.

Finch is a very good T20 player, but has weakness against spinners. He is easy to tie down when you stop his big shots, can't rotate strike.

 

[Mamoon]

Is it just the madrassa mentality or like posh school kids in Pakistan are also like that?

You find all types. Where I grew up, Tendulkar's status was respected and so is Kohli's.

 

[Mobashir]

Pietersen doesn't play anymore. If we talk about it since the inception of T20s, then McCullum will be up there as well.

Finch is a very good T20 player, but has weakness against spinners. He is easy to tie down when you stop his big shots, can't rotate strike.

Mc Cullum strugled eveyrwhere in T20's apart from NZ.
Not had even one good wolrd cup innings against a top 8 team.

 

[Mobashir]

Ok guys I am off for a moment. Will enjoy the match.

 

[Bhaijaan]

You find all types. Where I grew up, Tendulkar's status was respected and so is Kohli's.

I have seen interviews of travelling Pakistani americans on Star Sports during matches and they'd always be very respectful towards Sachin. Pakistani tv shows though, even 12 year old girls seemed to know Inzamam was the best batsman in the world.

 

[dandapinda]

Do you even watch international T20 or only IPL?

Both.

Players play less international T20 compared to Domestic leagues.

 

[Sunny786]

Another big innings from him today. Australia has not been able to keep him quiet at all.

 

[Acricketfan]

Ok guys I am off for a moment. Will enjoy the match.

I hope you did.

 

[LastManstanding]

No actually I am enjoying every match, 4-1 in ODI's.

India will probably also loose that one with 188.
I think 200 was par here.

Yeah [MENTION=43051]Mobashir[/MENTION] talk nah.

 

[Bhaijaan]

A match winning effort from champ.

 

[Fact]

Wonderful performance, got man of the match.

 

[Mobashir]

I hope you did.

Yes I did!
Again I am a cricket fan. It's just you indians out there that only read what you want.

I am always saying Indian bowling isn't that bad. Especially Jadeja and Ashwin are very good limited overs bowlers. And once again THEY won the match for India.

Kohli is tremendous batsman too, but I am not from those who will start dancing for hitting Tait, Richardson, Boyce...

For example, I was one of the most vocal when Kohli played that brilliant innings in Adelaide Test match but I don't found anything special in his last three hundreds.

For every performance (bowling or batting) I analyse the opposition, the conditions etc, don't just go on names "vs Australia in Australia", this is rubbish!

Yeah [MENTION=43051]Mobashir[/MENTION] talk nah.

Good win for India, the spinners bowled brilliantly!

 

[street cricketer]

Yes I did!
Again I am a cricket fan. It's just you indians out there that only read what you want.

I am always saying Indian bowling isn't that bad. Especially Jadeja and Ashwin are very good limited overs bowlers. And once again THEY won the match for India.

Kohli is tremendous batsman too, but I am not from those who will start dancing for hitting Tait, Richardson, Boyce...

For example, I was one of the most vocal when Kohli played that brilliant innings in Adelaide Test match but I don't found anything special in his last three hundreds.

For every performance (bowling or batting) I analyse the opposition, the conditions etc, don't just go on names "vs Australia in Australia", this is rubbish!



Good win for India, the spinners bowled brilliantly!

Here's the problem though..

Kohli is ridiculed if he fails against lesser bowlers and he's not given credit if he plays fantastically against them. You can only beat what's in front of you and it isn't Kohli's fault that Starc got injured and Johnson retired.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

So much jealousy... Jeez... Such jealousy is not good for health...

 

[Haroon786]

Best LOI batsman in the world.

 

[mosh101]

If only he was playing for Pakistan.....

 

[Bilal7]

Best T20 batsman in the world. Average of 40+ in this format is ridiculously high.

 

[Mamoon]

I created a thread a couple of years ago if we will ever see a batsman average 50+ in all three formats at the same time.

Kohli averages 44, 51 and 48 in in Tests, ODIs and T20s respectively. With his best years ahead of him, I believe he will eventually get there only if it is for a year or two.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I created a thread a couple of years ago if we will ever see a batsman average 50+ in all three formats at the same time.

Kohli averages 44, 51 and 48 in in Tests, ODIs and T20s respectively. With his best years ahead of him, I believe he will eventually get there only if it is for a year or two.

Hopefully though that thought never crosses his mind. If India continues to dish our mouth watering spinning mines, i'd never mind our guys averaging 40sh at home even as long as we keep winning..

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I created a thread a couple of years ago if we will ever see a batsman average 50+ in all three formats at the same time.

Kohli averages 44, 51 and 48 in in Tests, ODIs and T20s respectively. With his best years ahead of him, I believe he will eventually get there only if it is for a year or two.

Interesting.

Its a mindblowing achievement if anyone can do it.

 

[Suleiman]

ATG already. Whenever I am in poor form I watch Kohli bat as he is the model batsman who is teaching OZ a lesson in manners. Anyone who denies that it is too early to compare to Sachin blah blah, should stop living in the past. Saying this with a heart as clean as a whistle with no bad intentions.

 

[Anchorman]

As his biggest fan on PP, it's heartening to see so many positive comments about Virat. Hope he goes from strength to strength.

 

[90MPH]

Did you see the send off he gave Steven Smith when he got ?? Someone please post a video of it.

I couldn't stop cracking )

He's one entertaining guy, have to say.

 

[90MPH]

Ok found a clip on youtuve.

 

[Belawal2014]

As his biggest fan on PP, it's heartening to see so many positive comments about Virat. Hope he goes from strength to strength.

Subjective

Kahan Kohli or kahan apna Shezzy . Beast of a batsman.

 

[Sidilicious]

Ok found a clip on youtuve.

haha...looks like Steve Smith said something that had irked Kohli

 

[90MPH]

Just to give more context Steve smith was giving running commentary during that over as he had a microphone linked to the Tv Commentators and this was obviously irking Kohli as Assuies were coasting at that time.

Basically he told him to shut his trap once he got out.

 

[Suleiman]

As his biggest fan on PP, it's heartening to see so many positive comments about Virat. Hope he goes from strength to strength.

The hell are you talking about? I'm his biggest fan easily. I have the same facial hair and hairstyle as well. He has signed my friend's sister's Pakistani jersey.

 

[Suleiman]

As his biggest fan on PP, it's heartening to see so many positive comments about Virat. Hope he goes from strength to strength.

The hell are you talking about? I'm his biggest fan easily. I have the same facial hair and hairstyle as well have an mrf bat too. He has signed my friend's sister's Pakistani jersey too.