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Was it the right decision to select Wahab Riaz for the 2019 World Cup squad?

Was it the right decision to select Wahab Riaz for the 2019 World Cup squad?

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Selection Criteria of Wahab Riaz

On what basis Wahab Riaz is selected ?

He is proven poor Fast bowler with weird wrist position.

Expensive throughout previous series ....

Why he is selected over 1 performance again & again.
 
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I don't understand the basis of his selection too 😂😂 Inzi is seeing stars. Also, Amir never even got one game to "prove" himself and they still picked him? It makes no sense whatsoever
 
So he makes it to the squad - and the question is, is it the right decision? His record in Champions Trophy wasnt that good but then is it the case of beggars & choosers?
 
Yes he deserved to go. You need some sort of experience in the squad.


However it's mind boggling he wasn't selected for the Australian series if he was still on their radar
 
Short term memory loss syndrome. Watch him get spanked out of the park next game and then we will say Junaid's line/length better than Wahab's pace.
 
A panic decision... pcb has no idea what they doing. All they doing now is making face saving decisions. This management has to go regardless of WC results, enough of sugarcoated statements from Micky and Inzi.

Only time will tell if decision is right or wrong, what bothers me is that this management had all the time in the world to build the team, all they did was press conference after every loss “we hate to lose and we r ready”

#ThanksMickey
 
Absolutely, when the pitches are doing nothing, you need that bowler who can generate serious pace and get those Yorkers in. I see him outperforming some of the bowlers, and providing good death bowling.
 
Absolutey Yes. He can bowl fast, Can Bat and a better Fielder. On current pitches in England, a trundler like Junaid wasn't going to take us anywhere and he proved it. We need pace to have some chance of picking wickets and creating pressure in middle overs.

On the other hand to be fair with Selectors, they didn't picked Wahab as the first choice and given proper run to Faheem and he didn't shown any hope of improvement. In WC we can't afford to have a tail starting from number 8. Number 8 should able to bat a bit.

England's Curran played two match winning knocks in the series and he bats at number at number 10.
Wahab might not be ideal choice but no alternate is there. Let's Accept it.

Junaid, Usman and Rahat all are all no better to him and they can't bat either.​
 
Yes he is the best of the express bowlers and will be effective with reverse swing in latter part of innings
 
No.

Wahab's Record in England

4 wickets @ 96.25 AVG (7 Matches)

No reason to include him in the squad and likely should have included Shinwari instead. I get the reasoning for bringing him in, but Wahab is not the same bowler and he wasn't even that good back then.
 
If he reverses and bowls full and fast consistently then yes. Do I see that happening.. no. The best I've seen him bowl was against Watson in that famous spell in the world cup. But that was four years ago :)
 
Yes. He is in form of his life and IA i hope he ll do very well this time.
 
Simple Criteria. He might not be ideal choice but better than Junaid, Faheem any day.
 
I would take Shinwari over him.
Both of them leak runs but Shinwari can turn match on his head while I doubt if Wahab can do this.
 
It'a a panic decision and shows the lack of planning.

Wahab has not played an ODI for over 2 years. He has not been involved in any of the preparation we have been involved in building for this WC.
 
Absolutely not, but it's a selection we have to live with now. One of the worst pacers to ever represent Pakistan in ODI cricket, hands down.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Absolutely not, but it's a selection we have to live with now. One of the worst pacers to ever represent Pakistan in ODI cricket, hands down.
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Wait for it.... he has potential to break his own record of worse performance... especially if he plays against England on that 60m boundary ground....
😢😢
 
Absolutely wrong decision, not because Wahab is not good enough or the others are better than him but because of the manner in which he has been selected. While the other bowlers had been put under the microscope and on the basis of one of the highest scoring bilateral series EVER, Wahab has suddenly found himself on the WC team when he hasn't actually played a one day international since June 2017. It is an absolutely rubbish decision and will demotivate others like Shinwari, Faheem and Junaid who worked so hard to make a spot in the final 15. Had Wahab worked his way into the squad like the others then i would have had no problems but both Amir and Wahab are going to the WC on the basis on reputation (or nepotism) alone. In my opinion this is the worst decision that the selection committee could have made. It kills whatever little meritocracy is left in our system.
 
Plumb said:
A panic decision... pcb has no idea what they doing. All they doing now is making face saving decisions. This management has to go regardless of WC results, enough of sugarcoated statements from Micky and Inzi.

Only time will tell if decision is right or wrong, what bothers me is that this management had all the time in the world to build the team, all they did was press conference after every loss “we hate to lose and we r ready”

#ThanksMickey
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Whatever dude you fans will never be happy.

This is a good decision and you cant always have the correct squad. We had one bowling attack in mind but its evident wahab is needed.

Inzi has done really well here.
 
Karl said:
It was in the World T20 Cup in 2016...
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You do know for a fast bowler it is very difficult to change the delivery on the point of release, and he tried to chase the batsman to cramp him for room, but it did not work - too bad.
 
Let's jsut say he's definitely not going to be worse than Junaid and Faheem . . that's for sure . . and he's a better bowler at the death than both of them . . so I support the move!
Having said that, PCT, team management, think tank, selectors again prove that their planning and strategies are ALL over the place!
 
On the flipside, sometimes it's these "bold" decisions that pay off. We've seen it in the past in other sports where players get selected on reputation alone, sometimes it pays off. Example is in rugby when the then All Blacks coach John Mitchell selected Jonah Lomu for the world cup, and in his own words "only on reputation not performance", and he carved up.

Now whether Wahab even has a good reputation is another story, whereas Amir continues to live off his pre-ban reputation.
 
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Total panic move. A guy who hasn't been in the WC plan for about 2 years, someone who in his mid-30s is clearly past his best. And someone who really hasn't done anything so spectacular to get this unexpected call up.

Meanwhile arguably the best wicker taker in the past 2 year, Shinwari is no where to be seen.

Junaid's selection in the first place was horrible.

This is a total catastrophy and Inzamam really should've been sacked a long time ago.

On the positive side, Pakistan generally do their best when things are going poorly. it defies logic, but maybe this will somehow push the team
 
Badsha said:
Whatever dude you fans will never be happy.

This is a good decision and you cant always have the correct squad. We had one bowling attack in mind but its evident wahab is needed.

Inzi has done really well here.
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Why is he needed?
 
I am feeling for poor shinwari at the moment.. he must be thinking what more can I do?

I know that the sample size is too small for him but his ODI stats are phenomenal compared with wahab’s.
 
I dont think it was the right decision.
Probably 400 to be crossed against us if Wahab plays on the sort of pitches which were in the Odis.
 
kingusama92 said:
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Wahab's Record in England

4 wickets @ 96.25 AVG (7 Matches)

No reason to include him in the squad and likely should have included Shinwari instead. I get the reasoning for bringing him in, but Wahab is not the same bowler and he wasn't even that good back then.
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Exactly, may Allah save Pakistan's WC campaign and if he has to be exposed again i hope he gets exposed in the earlier stages of the world cup to posters with the memories of a goldfish.

This guy is going to spanked all over the park. Expect new records to be broken.
 
Has there been any explanation from selectors/coach/whoever regarding this decision?
 
Best decision by selection committee.He is way better than other trundlers and also better than overrated shinwari who has zero skills with ball and not that impressive pace either. All in all wonderful decision.
 
Some calling it a panic decision is silly, this is a planned move, what Inzamam has been doing for last 3 years. Pakistan loses a series, Inzamam pushes in one from his favored elite club of Akmals[selfish Azam incl.], Shehzad, Malik, Hafeez, Wahab and Imam.

If PCB continues to screw Pakistani cricket team by keeping him in few months his son will join the squad.

Has devastated Pakistan batting during his tenure. Arthur had to rely and bank on bowling all rounders like Ashraf and Shadab which has proven to be another disaster.

Before Australian series a thread was bumped on pakpassion to lobby for Hafeez. Yesterday similar kind of move was again done here for Wahab.

This lobbying and berserk actions will cost us not only semi final berth but future matches.
 
Smart decision. Shaheen and Amir do better as opening bowlers, so a bowler more suited to the older ball, bowling in middle/death is preferred to have as an option with Hasan.

Riaz has been in good form and had a very good PSL where he was bowling with Hasan. So they both know how to bowl together.

His experience also will be handy, he's had good performances in tournaments, Hasnain is just too raw and Shaheen while doing well and deserves his place is low on experience. And he offers that truly fast bowler option, something which we've been low on pace compared to say some of the English bowlers.

I would not start Riaz in the starting XI, I'd go with Amir, Shaheen, Hasan. But Riaz is a good back up player in the squad. I get he's not amazing, but it's really down to lack of options really.
 
saeed5646 said:
Shinwari deserves more than any one.Wahab raiz is finished
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He didn’t look finished in PSL.

Shinwari can swing the ball and could have given us early wickets but he can also be very expensive.

Since Riaz is a better fielder and batsman I think it’s ok to have him in the squad. Let’s see how he bowls against AFG on Friday.
 
Pathetic.
And please stop comparing Amir to Wahab. We all know and have seen that Amir actually wins big ICC event matches.
 
No matter who they select. Threads will always be there!!!!!!

Best of luck Pakistan. May you rise and shine always with the grace of Allah.
 
The guy has humiliated Pakistan with his crap and brainless bowling on many occasions. Inzi truly is a revolutionary by picking him as he has no business to be near the squad. UKS merited a place far more than this loser.
 
I’m conflicted but I would rather have him in there than not have him
 
I think Pakistan would be better off replacing Hasnain with Rauf also
 
I think people are forgetting the thrashing we've got from England 444, where Wahab gave 110. Also the thrashing from IND in CT. Once he was dropped we started winning
 
I definitely understand all the hatred towards Wahab.

However, in this case when we are lacking a bowler who can ball well at death what are our options? Also wickets dont look like CT17 where we pacers were getting assistance. In PSL Haris and Wahab were bowling the best yorkers hands down. Shinwari is definitely a better option with new ball and maybe in the middle overs but his death bowling hasnt been upto the mark for sometime and he hasnt been able to execute his yorkers just like the bowlers who played against Eng.

We already lack experience so it was one out of Haris Rauf and Hasnain and Hasnain got that spot couple of series ago.

So to be honest we didnt have anyone who can ball decent yorkers at the death overs with bit of experience as well. If I am missing some name I am all ears.

Now team management should plan on how to use Wahab. Bowling him him overs insides 20 overs with each ball just 7-8 overs old is gonna result in results more often than not. We should have atleast 4-5 overs off Wahab towards death, that is where he with his yorkers and reverse swing can make a difference on his day. Every bowler was already going for 80 + runs except Hassan, I am pretty sure on his day he can make difference in those runs which can be a factor in the result of the match. He looked to have improved his yorkers consistency as well, which we were able to see in PSL.
 
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Wonderful and bold decision, considering Wahab has been an inconsistent performer throughout his career.
But lately, he is in form of life, recently he is,

Fastest we have seen him
Most accurate he ever was
Very useful lower order batsman who can add some useful 20-25 runs
Great fielder
A great team man
We needed some experience in very young bowling line up.
 
They have to play both Hasan Ali and Wahab Riaz to have pace from both ends in the middle overs, which they did pair really good for zalmi

At the moment the right team would be

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Asif
Shadab
Hasan
Wahab
Amir
Shaheen
 
Why is performance of PSL considered?? Faheem and Hasan also were so good there.. What happened in international??
 
Energy said:
Short term memory loss syndrome. Watch him get spanked out of the park next game and then we will say Junaid's line/length better than Wahab's pace.
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Everyone has been getting spanked out of the park in England, Junaid more than most even with his medium pace line and length. So what is there to lose?

I don't think Wahab is a good bowler, I have been a frequent critic, but we need a genuine pace option, and he's the only one who produces it consistently. He looked the best Pakistan fast bowler in the PSL by some distance, the rest of the almost fast bowlers were getting panned regularly by the better quality batsmen.
 
There was a certain guy called shinwari who is in the same mold as wahab, but bowls with the new ball, has better stats and has been consistently in the side for the last 2 years.
 
Titan24 said:
I definitely understand all the hatred towards Wahab.

However, in this case when we are lacking a bowler who can ball well at death what are our options? Also wickets dont look like CT17 where we pacers were getting assistance. In PSL Haris and Wahab were bowling the best yorkers hands down. Shinwari is definitely a better option with new ball and maybe in the middle overs but his death bowling hasnt been upto the mark for sometime and he hasnt been able to execute his yorkers just like the bowlers who played against Eng.

We already lack experience so it was one out of Haris Rauf and Hasnain and Hasnain got that spot couple of series ago.

So to be honest we didnt have anyone who can ball decent yorkers at the death overs with bit of experience as well. If I am missing some name I am all ears.

Now team management should plan on how to use Wahab. Bowling him him overs insides 20 overs with each ball just 7-8 overs old is gonna result in results more often than not. We should have atleast 4-5 overs off Wahab towards death, that is where he with his yorkers and reverse swing can make a difference on his day. Every bowler was already going for 80 + runs except Hassan, I am pretty sure on his day he can make difference in those runs which can be a factor in the result of the match. He looked to have improved his yorkers consistency as well, which we were able to see in PSL.
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Agreed he should start to bowl his overs from and after 20 overs with at least one slip.

Surprised at the exclusion of Junaid Khan who can also reverse the old ball which he showed in the CT17
 
ask_analyse_act said:
They have to play both Hasan Ali and Wahab Riaz to have pace from both ends in the middle overs, which they did pair really good for zalmi

At the moment the right team would be

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Asif
Shadab
Hasan
Wahab
Amir
Shaheen
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I would have picked exactly the same team, no oldies Hafeez and Shoaib in middle order, we have Asif, really potent bowling unit.
 
It’s simple. Mickey and Co have no idea what to do. They had 4 years to get ready but now they don’t even have 1 frontline bowler. It shows how bad the management is when they wanted Yasir Shah to play the WC.
 
Sycamore said:
There was a certain guy called shinwari who is in the same mold as wahab, but bowls with the new ball, has better stats and has been consistently in the side for the last 2 years.
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He doesn't hit the same pace on a regular basis. I saw them both side by side in the PSL and Wahab looked far more deadly. Shinwari was bowling mostly mid 140kph, Wahab was hitting 150s.
 
mesmerizer85 said:
Why is performance of PSL considered?? Faheem and Hasan also were so good there.. What happened in international??
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Faheem’s PSL wickets were based upon his accuracy not because of his ability to swing the bowl or bamboozle the batsmen, when you ball wicket to wicket in T20s even if batsmen mistimes or misses one you are in which wickets. He doesn’t have the ability to ball yorkers at the death so whenever there are two set batsmen on the crease like we saw in Eng T20 in death overs, he can be hit through the line. Accuracy on its own is good ability but not enough in conditions we are seeing where batsmen can hit through the line and you dont have pace or any lateral movement.

Faheem was accurate even against England in ODIs and that is why had better economy considering the conditions however he doesnt have ability to take wickets unless batsmen makes a mistake, he doesnt have yorkers, a lot of pace and his batting wasn’t clicking as well so he had to make way for a genuine bowler.
 
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Energy said:
Short term memory loss syndrome. Watch him get spanked out of the park next game and then we will say Junaid's line/length better than Wahab's pace.
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Junaid should be out for his pathetic fielding alone.
Also what line and length? Guy bowls half tracker loose deliveries and keeps getting tonked. This series has absolutely buried all the hype this guy had. He is only good if conditions are overcast and pitch has some movement.

Wahab is not great either but he is bettee than Junaid.
 
Titan24 said:
Faheem’s PSL wickets were based upon his accuracy not because of his ability to swing the bowl or bamboozle the batsmen, when you ball wicket to wicket in T20s even if batsmen mistimes or misses one you are in which wickets. He doesn’t have the ability to ball yorkers at the death so whenever there are two set batsmen on the crease like we saw in Eng T20 in death overs, he can be hit through the line. Accuracy on its own is good ability but not enough in conditions we are seeing where batsmen can hit through the line and you dont have pace or any lateral movement.

Faheem was accurate even against England in ODIs and that is why had better economy considering the conditions however he doesnt have ability to take wickets unless batsmen makes a mistake, he doesnt have yorkers, a lot of pace and his batting wasn’t clicking as well so he had to make way for a genuine bowler.
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Faheem mostly bowled in UAE. Even Wahab becomes unplayable there. Faheem is very overrated player. Can't believe he was called an all rounder.
 
Titan24 said:
Faheem’s PSL wickets were based upon his accuracy not because of his ability to swing the bowl or bamboozle the batsmen, when you ball wicket to wicket in T20s even if batsmen mistimes or misses one you are in which wickets. He doesn’t have the ability to ball yorkers at the death so whenever there are two set batsmen on the crease like we saw in Eng T20 in death overs, he can be hit through the line. Accuracy on its own is good ability but not enough in conditions we are seeing where batsmen can hit through the line and you dont have pace or any lateral movement.

Faheem was accurate even against England in ODIs and that is why had better economy considering the conditions however he doesnt have ability to take wickets unless batsmen makes a mistake, he doesnt have yorkers, a lot of pace and his batting wasn’t clicking as well so he had to make way for a genuine bowler.
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If the intention is to take wickets they should have brought a spinner as England cant play spin as evident from their matches against India where kuldeep bamboozled them. Umer khan from PSL was deserving. Another trundler is going to add more woes for PCT
 
It must be an easy decision after we say Faheem and Junaid bowling in ODIs, thesetwo should be permanently discarded. Wahab is in form of his life and very accurate for a change, good to seem him back.
 
Titan24 said:
Faheem’s PSL wickets were based upon his accuracy not because of his ability to swing the bowl or bamboozle the batsmen, when you ball wicket to wicket in T20s even if batsmen mistimes or misses one you are in which wickets. He doesn’t have the ability to ball yorkers at the death so whenever there are two set batsmen on the crease like we saw in Eng T20 in death overs, he can be hit through the line. Accuracy on its own is good ability but not enough in conditions we are seeing where batsmen can hit through the line and you dont have pace or any lateral movement.

Faheem was accurate even against England in ODIs and that is why had better economy considering the conditions however he doesnt have ability to take wickets unless batsmen makes a mistake, he doesnt have yorkers, a lot of pace and his batting wasn’t clicking as well so he had to make way for a genuine bowler.
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This post deserves a POTW for literally explaining what Faheem's bowling is all about.
 
Unfortunately Junaid Khan has regressed so much in the last 2 years and he probably wouldn't have got any game in the world bar an injury to any of our pacers hence replacing him won't matter much under the circumstances however Wahab's selection is a double-edged sword and it can go either way. One thing for sure though, it at least would keep Hasan, Amir , Shaheen and Hasnain on their toes and they can't take their place in the playing 11 for granted now. A decision rather forced than made by Inzi..
 
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shaaik said:
Unfortunately Junaid Khan has regressed so much in the last 2 years and he probably wouldn't have got any game in the world bar an injury to any of our pacers hence replacing him won't matter much however Wahab's selection is a double-edged sword and it can go either way. It at least would keep Hasan, Amir , Shaheen and Hasnain on their toes and they can't take their place in the playing 11 for granted now.
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Why did we have to go with such an option? We could have gone for Shinwari but went for a player that has no performance to show for.
 
moghul said:
It must be an easy decision after we say Faheem and Junaid bowling in ODIs, thesetwo should be permanently discarded. Wahab is in form of his life and very accurate for a change, good to seem him back.
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That same accurate bowler got spanked for an econ of 10.5 just couple of days ago by bunch of hobbyists and club level players.
 
Kohli may have requested PCB to include him :) ON a serious note having a 145k bowler in the squad is always going to be useful atleast against weaker sides who can be bounced out. I thought he did okay in PSL?
 
I don't agree with the decision. His record in England is not great. He also has not been great with this 2 ball rule. Should not have been selected. If they want this type of option, I would rather they went with Haris Rauf.
 
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