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West Indies vs Pakistan | 2nd Test | Basseterre | 22/5/11 | Day 3 : Session 3

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Geordie Ahmed said:
Yes it is - the last thing we want now is a collapse
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I know. But still it's pretty poor cricket from Misbah (actually both...), the pitch isn't doing much yet they're in tuktuk mode, the least they could do is take singles. Meh.

And from nowhere a six. :misbah
 
@Nads_rocks
I agree that Umar Akmal has to bat at no. 4. He is being made to bat with the tail when he should really be expressing himself at the top of the order.
 
Seen Sheen said:
Yar, We still have plenty of time to force the result. We would have a lead of 245 at the end of the day. And then we can bat for 50-55 overs tomorrow and can take lead past the 400 mark(See, even maintaining a rate of 3 would take us to the 400). This will give our bowlers 135-140 overs to bowl Windies out and I think thats more than enough.

Asad was settling in, could have easily paced his innings and I dont know how it was in our best interest that he got out. Because we all know Misbah will bat at no. 5 and we know how good Misbah is when it comes to roatating the strike. So, Asad in, current scenario, would have been more handy than Misbah.
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400 is a long way away. At this rate we'll be lucky to get a lead of 300+

West Indies only need to draw and they have players who can bat out the overs which is why we need to set a commanding lead for them to chase and leave enough time for our bowlers to bowl them out and keep the draw way out of reach for West Indies.

Asad and Misbah and even Azhar Ali are 3 batsman who cannot rotate strikes and know just 1 thing. Block. Defence. Dot. Block. Defence. Dot. Deny singles and doubles!
 
inzy_paratha said:
taufeeq is playing quite a selfish innings, the scenario does dictate him to attack now, im not saying he should start hitting everything, but he needs to keep the scoreboard ticking over else if we lose a couple of wickets with the score stagnating we could be in a situation where we are looking at a 250-275 lead instead of a 300+ one
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exactly...
 
Seen Sheen said:
@Nads_rocks
I agree that Umar Akmal has to bat at no. 4. He is being made to bat with the tail when he should really be expressing himself at the top of the order.
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Umar Akmal is being wasted at that position and then the team, captain and we all expect him to take the game away from the opposition.
 
cricfan4ever said:
we have to set a good total with enough time to bowl out WI as this pitch has flattened out a bit...should be looking at 130-140 overs for WI to chase 350+...but if we go at this pace, getting to 350+ target will take forever!
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4 sessions will be more than enough for us to bowl them out

Also Umar Akmal can up the rate when he comes in
 
AZ said:
As per comms, made 50 in 82 balls and since then 29 in 109 balls!

Lead is still precarious, pitch is bloody flat and he's killing momentum.
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Pitch is not bloody flat. It would have deteriorated further when Windies would bat later on 4th day.

And if we cant bowl Windies out within 130 overs then extra ten plus overs wont make much difference.

Let them play the way ther are playing atm. I am sure we would see a more positive approach tomorrow especially after 1st hour of play.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
4 sessions will be more than enough for us to bowl them out

Also Umar Akmal can up the rate when he comes in
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you can never be too sure, anything is possible...what if it rains tomorrow or on day 5? that's why we need at least 130 overs to get 10 wickets...at the same time ensure target is in excess of 350...alas, our captain/management doesn't think that way!
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
4 sessions will be more than enough for us to bowl them out

Also Umar Akmal can up the rate when he comes in
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Or there could be a collapse with Windies only needing to chase 270 odd.

Umar up the order would have given Pak more ability to attack and lock down if it didn't work.
 
They changed the cherry.

Hit it hard Misbah, hit it hard.
 
looks like we might not even get to 250 lead by end of today...seriously bad batting...being over cautious for no reason what so ever!!!
 
There are too many skeletons in the closet for Pakistan to bat aggressively. We just have to live with it and hope we have enough runs on the board and enough time to force a victory here.
 
cricfan4ever said:
you can never be too sure, anything is possible...what if it rains tomorrow or on day 5? that's why we need at least 130 overs to get 10 wickets...at the same time ensure target is in excess of 350...alas, our captain/management doesn't think that way!
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What if it rains on days 2,3,4 and 5, does that mean we bat at 7-8 an over from day 1?

Show some patience people, it is going well so far
 
Going at under 2 rpo when there should be no pressure at all.

Pakistan are the best at creating pressure when there is no need.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
What if it rains on days 2,3,4 and 5, does that mean we bat at 7-8 an over from day 1?

Show some patience people, it is going well so far
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it didn't therefore that argument is void...but there's possibility for days 4 & 5 since they have not happened yet!!! you have to make assessments based on situations!!!
 
Whats up with so much dissatisfaction over the scoring rate. Remember that this is the same team that struggled to even get to 200 in the first test match.

It is good that Taufeeq is trying to reach the magical three figures unlike Azhar who lost his patience a little bit after reaching fifty
 
Seen Sheen said:
Pitch is not bloody flat. It would have deteriorated further when Windies would bat later on 4th day.

And if we cant bowl Windies out within 130 overs then extra ten plus overs wont make much difference.

Let them play the way ther are playing atm. I am sure we would see a more positive approach tomorrow especially after 1st hour of play.
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Nobody is telling him to go hell for leather.

He's stuck at one end, scoring at 25 strikerate! That doesn't help him, the batsman at the other end or the team.
 
Taufeeq's SR was near 80 in 1st session, 28 in 2nd, and hovering around 24 in 3rd session...I am certain he was told by Waqar/Inti to go into a total shell :facepalm:

FFS I am tired of this wussy attitude!!!
 
Taufeeq Umar has been poor since he was looking good out there.

While I type he just hit a :four but now will go back into his shell.
 
nads_rocks said:
400 is a long way away. At this rate we'll be lucky to get a lead of 300+

West Indies only need to draw and they have players who can bat out the overs which is why we need to set a commanding lead for them to chase and leave enough time for our bowlers to bowl them out and keep the draw way out of reach for West Indies.

Asad and Misbah and even Azhar Ali are 3 batsman who cannot rotate strikes and know just 1 thing. Block. Defence. Dot. Block. Defence. Dot. Deny singles and doubles!
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You didnt read the post properly, I said that even if we go at 3 rpo from now on, we would end up getting a lead of 400 with 40 or so overs remaining in 4th days play. And I havent taken into account the impact Umar will create. So, no need to panic, barring a collapse, we would be well placed at the half way mark on 4th day.

And Which Windies players have got the temperament to bat out 130+ overs. Sarwan doesnt look like getting a fifty and Nash has been clueless against off spin. The rest are crap really(Bravo is very talented BUT he too has a suspected temperament, Samuels too threw it away in the 1st inngs). And I repeat, if we cant bowl them out within 130 overs then it would be one disappointing effort from our bowlers.
 
Nice drive, straight as an arrow. 4.

TU on 85 now. Is he trying to get to 100 before close? I doubt it.
 
Pakistan pretty much need a lead off 400 and need to declare ideally an hour after lunch on day 4.

That means scoring another 170 runs! the rate pakistan are going we wont get there till tea and if we fail to win this test then todays last session go slow can shoulder some blame!
 
Its in Taufeeqs best interests to try to get as close to his century as possible...who knows what tomorrow will bring, he could get a jaffer first up, on top of that hes gonna have to start from scratch , hes put in the hard work today he should cash in
 
5 overs left to get 16 runs and 15 for Taufeeq for his 100

Don't think he will get his 100 today unless Misbah gives him most of the strike which will never happen.
 
cricfan4ever said:
Taufeeq's SR was near 80 in 1st session, 28 in 2nd, and hovering around 24 in 3rd session...I am certain he was told by Waqar/Inti to go into a total shell :facepalm:

FFS I am tired of this wussy attitude!!!
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He is middling the ball very nicely, its just a pity that he cant find the gaps.
 
inzy_paratha said:
Its in Taufeeqs best interests to try to get as close to his century as possible...who knows what tomorrow will bring, he could get a jaffer first up, on top of that hes gonna have to start from scratch , hes put in the hard work today he should cash in
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100% agree but if gets out now he will be cursed.

I now think TU will go for it in the last 25 mins of todays play.
 
nads_rocks said:
5 overs left to get 16 runs and 15 for Taufeeq for his 100

Don't think he will get his 100 today unless Misbah gives him most of the strike which will never happen.
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Nads bhai you need take a chill pill.

Kyun apna khuun jalatay ho. In Sha Allah, we are going to win the test comfortably.
 
inzy_paratha said:
Its in Taufeeqs best interests to try to get as close to his century as possible...who knows what tomorrow will bring, he could get a jaffer first up, on top of that hes gonna have to start from scratch , hes put in the hard work today he should cash in
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He is mostly likely going to get a century today but going to get out first thing tomorrow morning
 
He was trying to get out in another unique way, didn't work this time sir! :inzi
 
AZ said:
Nobody is telling him to go hell for leather.

He's stuck at one end, scoring at 25 strikerate! That doesn't help him, the batsman at the other end or the team.
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He ist trying hard BUT finding fielders whenever he attepmts to pierce the field.
 
Pak 188/3 - Lead 237

Pakistan are going to have to get a move on tomorrow of they want to declare and force a win here!
 
Seen Sheen said:
Nads bhai you need take a chill pill.

Kyun apna khuun jalatay ho. In Sha Allah, we are going to win the test comfortably.
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I want to see Pakistan win and win comfortably. I want Pakistan to rise up in the rankings and be the force we used to be in Test.

Is it wrong for me to just want to see my team perform like any others out there.

Look at England Lions Vs Sri Lankans that was a 4 day match and still produced a result.

Eng Lions scored 493-8 (dec) in 109 overs and Sri Lankans 266 ao 63.4 overs.

Then Sri Lanks followed on 448 ao 104 overs needing Eng Lions 222 to win and they were 183 ao in 47.3 overs.

Pakistan are 188-3 in 70 overs when we should have been at way above 230-250 at the rate we started 4-5 rpo!

There was no need to go on the defense because we were doing very well there was no collapse and partnership was being built too!
 
AZ said:
As per comms, made 50 in 82 balls and since then 29 in 109 balls!

Lead is still precarious, pitch is bloody flat and he's killing momentum.
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Above all he is middling the ball beautifully!
 
Seen Sheen said:
He ist trying hard BUT finding fielders whenever he attepmts to pierce the field.
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That's the thing its either a big shot or a block.

In the end he's doing what he does best.

Nothing in between :moyo


:four

Smashed!
 
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