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Which international teams would you back to defeat Mumbai Indians in a five-match T20 series?

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I feel MI is on a different level as compared to other IPL teams. MI has superstars like Rohit Sharma, Pandya, Pollard, QdK, Bumrah, and Boult and some very solid international players such as Lynn, SKY, Ishan Kishan, and Milne. Then there are some handy players like Krunal and Chahar.

I reckon they can easily defeat many International teams especially SL, Bangladesh, and current SA.
 
They can beat every team in the world if they are playing with their first-choice team, i.e. Rohit, Bumrah and Pandya would be playing for them instead of India.

They are an incredible team. Right from e coaching staff to the players.
 
None. MI will whoop every single international team. Their two less celebrated superstars, Suryakumar Yadav and Ishan Kishan debuted vs England and received player of match award in their debut game.

Just imagine what that side with Rohit, Bumrah, Pollard, Boult, QDk and these two will do together. MI is an extremely superior T20 team than any other team in this format. I would even back Sunrisers Hyderabad and a full strength Delhi Capitals with Pant, Shaw, Iyer, Stoinis, Rabada and Nortje to beat most of the sides too except maybe India and England.
 
They would be able to beat NONE of the International top 10 teams. They would fail.
 
They can beat every team in the world if they are playing with their first-choice team, i.e. Rohit, Bumrah and Pandya would be playing for them instead of India.

They are an incredible team. Right from e coaching staff to the players.

Do you really think they can beat England?
 
Champion team that can beat any international team. Their only weakness is spin bowling. Chahar is not quality and Krunal is just sub par.
 
Yes Lendl Simmons, Hussey, Saxena, Rayudu, Pollard were beaten by Lahore.

Funny how you missed out Malingas name who was one of the best T20 bowler then and Bumrah. Also Harbhajan Singh.

Compare to the Lahore team who had some Asif Raza open bowling never heard of him. Only bowler who played international much for Pakistan Wahab Riaz was the most expensive for Lahore. Some Asif Raza, Imran Ali and Adnan Rasool were too good for IPL team.
And Lahore all 11 Pakistanis no foreign players.
Half the players even us Pakistani fans don't even know and beat your IPL team with foreigners.
 
They would beat Australia, Australia have a poor record against teams in these situations.
 
Australia
New Zealand
England
South Africa
India
Pakistan
West Indies


Who cares though?
 
Didnt they once lose to Lahore in the CL?

That happened long ago. The current MI is very different.

Also, I believe teams beating superior opponents can happen more in T20 than in other formats. That's why I specified 5-match series in the OP.
 
They’d get hammered by the top 6 ,even The Windies , Bangladesh & the Afghans would be tough to beat. lmao @ some deluded folk 😂😂😂😂😂
 
Australia and England.

I think India will be weakened by the absence of Rohit, SKY, Pandya, Bumrah, and Kishan so, they may be able to beat India as well....

New Zealand can give them a scare outside of Asia and West Indies at full strength can out bat them on batting beauties but their bowling is weak.

And anyone who thinks any other middle to bottom tier teams, who huff and puff against third rated sides have a chance of beating MI in a long series is either delusional or patriotic or both..
 
You'd back Bangladesh to defeat a team that has Rohit, Bumrah, Pandya, Pollard, Boult, etc.?

Leave Bangladesh aside.

Except Hafeez (over Kishan maybe), Nawaz/Qadir (over Chahar) and Shaheen (over Jansen), none of the current Pak side will even make the MI XI. :))

That pretty much tells the whole story.
 
One can reframe the question and ask how many IPL teams can the non-Big 3 beat in the T20 format?

:)))

It will actually be hard for non-Big 3 to beat Warner's Sunrisers Hyderabad or Pant's Delhi Capitals.

Rabada and Nortje will anyways play for DC over SA as visible by their absence in the T20 series vs Pakistan and so will the West Indian players who will prioritise IPL over playing for Windies.
 
One shouldnt be surprised if they beat all of them because MI is no average domestic team. The best players from each international side grouped into 1 xi
 
Didn't some random T20 club sides from another country beat IPL team(not sure which one) few years ago?

I am pretty sure even Afghanistan will beat the cr@p out of any IPL team. :inti
 
One can reframe the question and ask how many IPL teams can the non-Big 3 beat in the T20 format?

:)))

It will actually be hard for non-Big 3 to beat Warner's Sunrisers Hyderabad or Pant's Delhi Capitals.

Rabada and Nortje will anyways play for DC over SA as visible by their absence in the T20 series vs Pakistan and so will the West Indian players who will prioritise IPL over playing for Windies.

They ran away from Pakistan series because they knew they are up against a higher ranked T20 side but they will return as soon as they play against any IPL team because they can beat these teams without breaking any sweat. :inti
 
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Yes Lendl Simmons, Hussey, Saxena, Rayudu, Pollard were beaten by Lahore.

Wasn't that the strongest team at that time? Or are you only going to selectively choose the team just like some guys selectively choose the time period for stats to show which team is better than the other? :inti
 
They ran away from Pakistan series because they knew they are up against a higher ranked T20 side but they will return as soon as they play against any IPL team because they can beat Pyjama League teams without breaking any sweat. :inti

Lol..Nice way to defend your team. Really nice coping mechanism :)))

But, you are wrong because Suryakumar Yadav and Ishan Kishan debuted for India and they straightaway won the man of match award for their team against a top T20 team like England.
 
Suryakumar Yadav and Ishan Kishan are playing in Indian T20 team only because of their performances in IPL over past years. They are IPL products and because of that, they were selected in Indian T20 team. They have made Mumbai Indians an invincible team.

IPL has produced players like Bumrah, Bhuvi, SKY, Pant, Kishan and Pandya and they all are brilliant players especially, Bumrah, Pant and Pandya.
 
In a T20 tri-series between India, England and Mumbai Indians, the question won't be that who will play in the finals.

The real question will be who will play alongside Mumbai Indians in the finals. :inti
 
Babar Azam won't make it into Mumbai Indians.... That's pretty much it.

Shaheen might get in ahead of Boult.
So only 1 pak player in a combined x1
 
I can only laugh at the desperate souls who're trying to compare MI of 2021 to that of 2014 that lost to the so called "club side" Lahore lions with int'l players like Shehzad, U Akmal, Hafeez, Jamshed, Wahab and Cheema. And they themselves were missing skipper Rohit and Corey Anderson in that game. Peak of desperation really.... :91:

That side had barely finished 4th in the IPL that year and had the likes of Aditya Tare , Jalaj Saxena , Rayudu with Bhajji batting at no.7. :yk
 
I can only laugh at the desperate souls who're trying to compare MI of 2021 to that of 2014 that lost to the so called "club side" Lahore lions with int'l players like Shehzad, U Akmal, Hafeez, Jamshed, Wahab and Cheema. And they themselves were missing skipper Rohit and Corey Anderson in that game. Peak of desperation really.... :91:

That side had barely finished 4th in the IPL that year and had the likes of Aditya Tare , Jalaj Saxena , Rayudu with Bhajji batting at no.7. :yk
MI won that champions league title 2 times and is the most successful team in that league's history.
So even on global scale MI has proved itself.
 
MI team that year waa the 4th best IPL team. The team composition is very different from what it is today. Only 2 players from team play for MI today.

The team that defeated MI was bang average team as compared to many international sides
 
The current Mumbai Indians would beat the current Pakistan side 5-0 or 4-1 in a five match series.

Some people are still living in 2014 and milking the victory against a depleted Mumbai Indians side. There really is no cure for delusion.
 
The current Mumbai Indians would beat the current Pakistan side 5-0 or 4-1 in a five match series.

Some people are still living in 2014 and milking the victory against a depleted Mumbai Indians side. There really is no cure for delusion.

I think you are getting carried away here.Can you please mention a some match winning performances by decock, Rohit sharma and Bumrah against pakistan in T20is in last 5 years
 
I think you are getting carried away here.Can you please mention a some match winning performances by decock, Rohit sharma and Bumrah against pakistan in T20is in last 5 years

It is difficult for the likes of Rohit and Bumrah to produce match-winning performances against Pakistan when India has not played a T20I against Pakistan since 19th March 2016, or 5 years and 24 days.

Pakistani players might have the talent to produce match-winning performances without playing, but unfortunately, players from other teams do not possess this magical ability.

As far as de Kock is concerned, he is a maverick. He does not always fire, not even in IPL, but when he does, he has the capacity to take the game away from the opposition. He is always a prized wicket because of his ability to be destructive.

Even if you ignore de Kock because Pakistan has somehow kept him quiet over the last few T20Is (even though he is better than any white ball opener Pakistan has ever produced including Saeed Anwar), the Mumbai Indians team is far too strong for a bang average team like Pakistan.

At best, only 1-2 Pakistani players would have a chance of getting into the Mumbai Indians playing XI.
 
Rohit, De Kock, Lynn, Yadav, Kishan, Pollard, Pandya, Boult, Bumrah would be too good for international teams. All are star players so Most of the matches would be one sided.

Heck even Yadav , Kishan were enough to defeat England recently that too with a no man bowling attack consists of thakurs, chahars, krunals, kuldeeps.
 
It is difficult for the likes of Rohit and Bumrah to produce match-winning performances against Pakistan when India has not played a T20I against Pakistan since 19th March 2016, or 5 years and 24 days.

Pakistani players might have the talent to produce match-winning performances without playing, but unfortunately, players from other teams do not possess this magical ability.

As far as de Kock is concerned, he is a maverick. He does not always fire, not even in IPL, but when he does, he has the capacity to take the game away from the opposition. He is always a prized wicket because of his ability to be destructive.

Even if you ignore de Kock because Pakistan has somehow kept him quiet over the last few T20Is (even though he is better than any white ball opener Pakistan has ever produced including Saeed Anwar), the Mumbai Indians team is far too strong for a bang average team like Pakistan.

At best, only 1-2 Pakistani players would have a chance of getting into the Mumbai Indians playing XI.

Okay when India played Pakistan how many runs Rohit Sharma made in t20is.Why don't you mention Decock's top t20i innings in pakistan
 
Rohit, De Kock, Lynn, Yadav, Kishan, Pollard, Pandya, Boult, Bumrah would be too good for international teams. All are star players so Most of the matches would be one sided.

Heck even Yadav , Kishan were enough to defeat England recently that too with a no man bowling attack consists of thakurs, chahars, krunals, kuldeeps.

They are two type of people who think that Mumbai Indians would not beat the likes of Pakistan, South Africa, Sri Lanka, West Indies. Bangladesh and have a competitive series with the big 3 and New Zealand – those who know nothing about cricket and those who are in denial.
 
Okay when India played Pakistan how many runs Rohit Sharma made in t20is.Why don't you mention Decock's top t20i innings in pakistan

Rohit Sharma has only played about 4-5 T20Is against Pakistan. He has not done well in those matches. However, he averages 50+ against Pakistan in ODIs and you would probably remember very well what he did to Pakistani bowlers in the 2019 World Cup.

Now it is up to you to convince yourself that Rohit does not have the ability to perform against Pakistan in T20Is based on a few matches, even though, he has dominated the same bowlers in ODIs.

It is usually not hard for Pakistani fans to convince themselves in order to feel better, so I think you are on the right track.

Rohit is one of the greatest white ball players ever, better than anyone Pakistan has ever produced in the ODI and T20I formats, and if Pakistani fans think that the likes of Shaheen, Rauf, Hassan, Faheem, Nawaz, Shadab, Imad etc. are too good for him to handle based on 4-5 T20Is, it is their compulsion.

De Kock has only played 4 T20Is against Pakistan and all of them in 2013, and he averages 49.
 
Rohit Sharma has only played about 4-5 T20Is against Pakistan. He has not done well in those matches. However, he averages 50+ against Pakistan in ODIs and you would probably remember very well what he did to Pakistani bowlers in the 2019 World Cup.

Now it is up to you to convince yourself that Rohit does not have the ability to perform against Pakistan in T20Is based on a few matches, even though, he has dominated the same bowlers in ODIs.

It is usually not hard for Pakistani fans to convince themselves in order to feel better, so I think you are on the right track.

Rohit is one of the greatest white ball players ever, better than anyone Pakistan has ever produced in the ODI and T20I formats, and if Pakistani fans think that the likes of Shaheen, Rauf, Hassan, Faheem, Nawaz, Shadab, Imad etc. are too good for him to handle based on 4-5 T20Is, it is their compulsion.

De Kock has only played 4 T20Is against Pakistan and all of them in 2013, and he averages 49.

What a hypocrisy you criticized babar for not doing well against India as babar has played 5odis and now you are using excuse of 5t20is to defend Sharma
 
What a hypocrisy you criticized babar for not doing well against India as babar has played 5odis and now you are using excuse of 5t20is to defend Sharma

Babar has only played ODIs against India and he has been a flop show.

If he had played T20Is against India and performed, I would not have criticized him for failing in ODIs, just like I don’t criticize Rohit for failing against Pakistan in T20Is because he has performed in ODIs.

It is not Babar’s fault that he has not played against India in T20Is but it is not mine either.

I can only judge him based on all the matches he has played against India so far in his career and he has failed in every single one of them.
 
Depends on where the match is being plalyed.
If the match is being played on the low slow turning tracks of UAE, lots of their power hitters (Lynn, QDK, Pollard) will become pretty useuless, though Rohit will sill star.

I think on batsman friendly pacy wickets, they will be a very difficult team to beat, but on turning tracks, its not the same
 
Babar has only played ODIs against India and he has been a flop show.

If he had played T20Is against India and performed, I would not have criticized him for failing in ODIs, just like I don’t criticize Rohit for failing against Pakistan in T20Is because he has performed in ODIs.

It is not Babar’s fault that he has not played against India in T20Is but it is not mine either.

I can only judge him based on all the matches he has played against India so far in his career and he has failed in every single one of them.

Will you explain difference of failure in t20is and odis
 
Can Mumbai Indians beat India? :inti

Easily. Mumbai Indians is a better team than all international t20 sides including Indian national team.

Ofcourse any side can beat anyone on a given day especially in this format as we recently saw Zimbabwe beating Pakistan but on paper Mumbai Indians is stronger than all international sides. They have got all bases covered - superb openers, solid middle order, good lower order striker, terrific spinners & spin allrounders plus world class fast bowlers. The best part is their bench strength is equally good and consist of players who would make into most international sides
 
But would the Mumbai overseas players play for the international side or the ISL team ?

Thats a good question. Criteria should be, Mumbai Indians players should play for MI and not for their international team. Otherwise ofcourse internantional sides will win but I assume OP meant full strength Mumbai Indians side.
 
Okay when India played Pakistan how many runs Rohit Sharma made in t20is.Why don't you mention Decock's top t20i innings in pakistan

Bro, Rohit Sharma's last 3 innings against Pakistan are - 52, 111* & 141. The fact is he has not played enough t20s against Pak to prove his mettle.
 
Wasn't that the strongest team at that time? Or are you only going to selectively choose the team just like some guys selectively choose the time period for stats to show which team is better than the other? :inti

They aren't strongest team back then.. They able to qualify to CL due to India allowed to play three (or 4?) teams IIRC..
 
In a 5 match T20 series between Delhi Capitals and a non-Big 3 or West Indies team, the result will be 4-1 Delhi Capitals.

Player of series- Rishabh Pant
Leading run scorer - Shikhar Dhawan
Game-changer of the series- Prithvi Shaw
Most Wickets - Kagiso Rabada
Captain of the series - Shreyas Iyer
Coach of the series - Ricky Ponting

:inti
 
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I can only laugh at the desperate souls who're trying to compare MI of 2021 to that of 2014 that lost to the so called "club side" Lahore lions with int'l players like Shehzad, U Akmal, Hafeez, Jamshed, Wahab and Cheema. And they themselves were missing skipper Rohit and Corey Anderson in that game. Peak of desperation really.... :91:

That side had barely finished 4th in the IPL that year and had the likes of Aditya Tare , Jalaj Saxena , Rayudu with Bhajji batting at no.7. :yk

You just picking names that suits you agenda. That game Lahore had 3 bowlers named Asif Raza, Imran Ali and Adnan Rasool. And they bowled 10 overs between them and gave just 53 runs. And just by playing the odd game for the national team don't mean your a international player. Aizaz Cheema was probably Pakistans 10th choice bowler and he was too good for your Mumbai. Wahab was a international player and he was the most expensive bowler so it was the non international bowlers who kept it tight and kept Mumbai to a very low score.

And less we talk about Jamshed, Shehzad, Akmal the better. Hafeez was a walking wicket back then. Hussey, Simmons and Pollard over any of the Lahore batsmen and they were top T20 players.
And Malinga best T20 bowler alongside Bumrah and Harbhajan.
And Rayadu was decent reason why he still going and likes of Shehzad, Jamshed and Akmal no where to be heard of.

Peak of desperation is from people like you that can't digest a defeat and still need to find excuses.
 
I can only laugh at the desperate souls who're trying to compare MI of 2021 to that of 2014 that lost to the so called "club side" Lahore lions with int'l players like Shehzad, U Akmal, Hafeez, Jamshed, Wahab and Cheema. And they themselves were missing skipper Rohit and Corey Anderson in that game. Peak of desperation really.... :91:

That side had barely finished 4th in the IPL that year and had the likes of Aditya Tare , Jalaj Saxena , Rayudu with Bhajji batting at no.7. :yk

What were doing in the CL then? I thought the CL was played by all the clubs that had won the domestic T20 Tournament.
 
Easily. Mumbai Indians is a better team than all international t20 sides including Indian national team.

Ofcourse any side can beat anyone on a given day especially in this format as we recently saw Zimbabwe beating Pakistan but on paper Mumbai Indians is stronger than all international sides. They have got all bases covered - superb openers, solid middle order, good lower order striker, terrific spinners & spin allrounders plus world class fast bowlers. The best part is their bench strength is equally good and consist of players who would make into most international sides

Ok so Mumbai Indians can easily beat India in a 5 match T20 series. :inti
 
In a 5 match T20 series between Delhi Capitals and a non-Big 3 or West Indies team, the result will be 4-1 Delhi Capitals.

Player of series- Rishabh Pant
Leading run scorer - Shikhar Dhawan
Game-changer of the series- Prithvi Shaw
Most Wickets - Kagiso Rabada
Captain of the series - Shreyas Iyer
Coach of the series - Ricky Ponting

:inti

Delhi Capitals? OP is talking about Mumbai Indians here. You keep changing the goal post. :facepalm :inti
 
There is a reason that the teams are categorised as "domestic" and "international" teams. However strong a domestic team is, it'll remain a domestic team at the end of the day, no matter how desperate the cheerleaders of that team want to represent that team as some kind of international level team.

This question in the OP can be applied to every "domestic" team of every "domestic" tournament. So, lets start answering this question for all of the "domestic" teams. Like which international teams would you back to defeat Karachi Kings? Or Lahore Qalanders? Or Jamaica Tallawahs? Or any other team from any other "domestic" tournament? I mean how much desperate can a person be to ask such type of questions.
 
You just picking names that suits you agenda. That game Lahore had 3 bowlers named Asif Raza, Imran Ali and Adnan Rasool. And they bowled 10 overs between them and gave just 53 runs. And just by playing the odd game for the national team don't mean your a international player. Aizaz Cheema was probably Pakistans 10th choice bowler and he was too good for your Mumbai. Wahab was a international player and he was the most expensive bowler so it was the non international bowlers who kept it tight and kept Mumbai to a very low score.

And less we talk about Jamshed, Shehzad, Akmal the better. Hafeez was a walking wicket back then. Hussey, Simmons and Pollard over any of the Lahore batsmen and they were top T20 players.
And Malinga best T20 bowler alongside Bumrah and Harbhajan.
And Rayadu was decent reason why he still going and likes of Shehzad, Jamshed and Akmal no where to be heard of.

Peak of desperation is from people like you that can't digest a defeat and still need to find excuses.


You can't call a team that has 6 int'l cricketers a "club side". That was my point. Lahore won that game on the back of Wahab and Cheema's bowling and the batting of Jamshed, Shehzad and Umar Akmal. People are making it out as if MI lost to a side that had 11 Sunday league cricketers...

And I don't even know what's the point here. That MI side was considerably weaker compared to the current team and Bumrah was still a rookie back then. Now they have all bases covered and would smash the living daylights of Lahore lions or qalandrs or whatever....

Only a deluded individual will use such bizarre logics like "oh they lost 7 years ago" so they're no good even now. Mugabe's Zimbabwe beat Pakistan in a Test match back then so would it be fair to say they'll beat Pakistan again next month?
 
What were doing in the CL then? I thought the CL was played by all the clubs that had won the domestic T20 Tournament.


No. It never followed that model. Top 4 teams were allowed from IPL with the 4th playing a qualifier. A bit like the champions League in football where 4 teams are allowed from England, Spain, Germany etc.
 
No. It never followed that model. Top 4 teams were allowed from IPL with the 4th playing a qualifier. A bit like the champions League in football where 4 teams are allowed from England, Spain, Germany etc.

Which one makes more sense and looks unbiased? Top 4 teams from 1 country/league or Top 4 teams from multiple countries/leagues? :inti
 
Ok so Mumbai Indians can easily beat India in a 5 match T20 series. :inti

On paper yes provided all Mumbai Indians players play for Mumbai and NOT for Indian national side.

DeKock = Rahul
Rohit > Dhawan
SKY = Kohli (present form)
Ishan Kishan < Pant
Hardik > Shreyas Iyer
Pollard > Manish Pandey
Krunal < Jadeja
Rahul Chahar > Chahal
Bumrah > Bhuvi
Boult > Thakur
Jannsen = Deepak Chahar

Only Pant and Jadeja can get into Mumbai side.
 
You can't call a team that has 6 int'l cricketers a "club side". That was my point. Lahore won that game on the back of Wahab and Cheema's bowling and the batting of Jamshed, Shehzad and Umar Akmal. People are making it out as if MI lost to a side that had 11 Sunday league cricketers...

And I don't even know what's the point here. That MI side was considerably weaker compared to the current team and Bumrah was still a rookie back then. Now they have all bases covered and would smash the living daylights of Lahore lions or qalandrs or whatever....

Only a deluded individual will use such bizarre logics like "oh they lost 7 years ago" so they're no good even now. Mugabe's Zimbabwe beat Pakistan in a Test match back then so would it be fair to say they'll beat Pakistan again next month?

Lahore didn't win on back of Wahabs bowling. He was most expensive bowler that day. They won because some no bodies Asif Raza, Imran Ali and Adnan Rasool who bowled 10 overs between them and gave just 53 runs. And Cheema a international hahaha. Playing few games don't make you international quality. And Cheema wasn't even in Pakistan team after 2012. Only player some games in 2012.
 
They'll probably beat most sides in Asia, other than England perhaps. I doubt they'll win consistently in Australia or New Zealand against full-strength opposition.
 
Which one makes more sense and looks unbiased? Top 4 teams from 1 country/league or Top 4 teams from multiple countries/leagues? :inti

See, posts like these are why I say PP is very generous. The number of teams from a league depends on the quality and size of the league. It's like the Champions league in soccer. Check how and why leagues like EPL have more slots compared to other leagues. U gotto start learning
 
In a knockout match, even Sunrisers Hyderabad will beat most non-Big 3 teams, let alone Mumbai Indians.

SRH has Warner, Bhuvi and Rashid who are among the best cricketers in their department. Then you have Bairstow who is England's second greatest T20 bat and their bowling department is better than any non-Big 3 team by a considerable margin.

Mumbai Indians, on other hand, are several distances ahead and it's not even comparable.

:inti
 
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It is funny that some fans are assuming Mumbai Indians or other IPL teams to beat International Teams on the basis of 4 international players in each IPL team. If IPL is so good why can't a team full of Indian domestic players beat International teams? You know how funny it looks when you are trying to bring down International Cricket on the basis of 4 International recruits in IPL teams? :)))

It seems "I" in IPL stands for International? :inti
 
See, posts like these are why I say PP is very generous. The number of teams from a league depends on the quality and size of the league. It's like the Champions league in soccer. Check how and why leagues like EPL have more slots compared to other leagues. U gotto start learning

Lol how do you decide the quality of other leagues or clubs without even giving them a proper chance? Guys like you keep comparing cricket leagues with football leagues. Shows how much knowledge you have about Football. You have no idea about the loyalty, length of those leagues and 1 player playing for 1 club at one time but want to act as some kind of an expert here. :))) :inti
 
I think the England T20 team is stronger than Mumbai Indians. West Indies probably can beat them as well (they will miss Pollard, but they have other match winners). NZ/Aus can compete but unlikely to win a series. India will almost certainly lose (they may find a decent replacement for Rohit Sharma, but replacing Bumrah + Pandya will be a bridge too far). The other teams unfortunately don't stand a chance.
 
Maybe no international team can beat them but then again they lost to the Lahore Lions team a team that had Ahmad Shezad in it & 3-4 players who at best are club-level cricketer.
 
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