Who will win the Premier League 2023/24 title (Top 5 finishes also)?

[aboveandbeyond]

Liverpool do seem to bottle it in crunch games. Been a regular theme over the rexent past seasons.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Rest of teams in PL have got better, most top 6 clashes have been competitive this season

Not sure about that. Bar the top four or five, the rest of the teams have been bordering on mediocrity at different times of the season

 

[Mamoon]

Liverpool needs to find a manager that can instill a winning mindset into these players.

1 title in 10 years and 1 title since 2018 (with City winning 5) when we have been hearing about the rivalry between City and Liverpool is shameful.

Klopp is the most overrated manager in history of the PL and Arteta would walk all over his PL legacy by the time he is done as Arsenal manager.

A proper elite manager would have won at least 3 league titles with Liverpool in the last 7 years considering the quality of players that he has had at his disposal.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Liverpool needs to find a manager that can instill a winning mindset into these players.

1 title in 10 years and 1 title since 2018 (with City winning 5) when we have been hearing about the rivalry between City and Liverpool is shameful.

Klopp is the most overrated manager in history of the PL and Arteta would walk all over his PL legacy by the time he is done as Arsenal manager.

A proper elite manager would have won at least 3 league titles with Liverpool in the last 7 years considering the quality of players that he has had at his disposal.

A LARGE obsticle called Peps Man city, for me the best team in English top flight history have emphatically shut the door on them. The points massed by City in recent seasons is on another level to any team in the English pyramid past.

 

[Amjid Javed]

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%stats for a certain poster apologising is 0%, already been he's making excuses and done a you turn.

Then he wonders why people block him.

Only 2 posters on here like to run their mouths and back track.

Mentioning tough away games has backfired on Liverpool big time..

 

[Amjid Javed]

Liverpool do seem to bottle it in crunch games. Been a regular theme over the rexent past seasons.

The only PL title they won, the blitz everyone and there was no title race.

Otherwise when there has been a tight title race, they have bottled it

 

[Mamoon]

A LARGE obsticle called Peps Man city, for me the best team in English top flight history have emphatically shut the door on them. The points massed by City in recent seasons is on another level to any team in the English pyramid past.

The failures of 2020-21 and 2023-24 don’t get talked about enough. They are somehow lost in history amidst all the romanticism.

In 2020-21, they scraped into the top four on the final day thanks to a winner by their GK of all players.

In 2023-24, they finished 5th. Two such mediocre seasons in four years with such elite players is a massive failure and perhaps a bigger blot on his Liverpool legacy than one title in 10 years.

The 2018-19 bottle job doesn’t get talked about enough either. Everyone remember Arsenal surrendering an 8 point lead to City but everyone conveniently forgets that Liverpool were 10 points clear half way through the 2018-19 season.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You mad bro?

You were supposed to win the quadruple. What happened? We knocked you out of the FA Cup and didn't let you beat us at home, shattering your quadruple hopes.

We are rubbish, yet you couldn't beat us all season.

Nobody has won the quadruple. Liverpool came closet , perhaps 2 goals away .

We’ve been hammering you for years now , must be a relief this season lol

Btw congratulations on securing top 10

 

[KingKhanWC]

The only PL title they won, the blitz everyone and there was no title race.

Otherwise when there has been a tight title race, they have bottled it

Arsenal fans talking of bottle after least season

Bottling is not a tight race until the lest 1 or 2 matches to go . It’s when you’re so far ahead & lose it with matches to play .

Mamoon gave his prediction, whats yours as it stands now ? Arteta to win the league? Or maybe CL too ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

 

[KingKhanWC]

Liverpool fans would love to add to these trophies but it’s not over yet

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arsenal fans talking of bottle after least season

Bottling is not a tight race until the lest 1 or 2 matches to go . It’s when you’re so far ahead & lose it with matches to play .

Mamoon gave his prediction, whats yours as it stands now ? Arteta to win the league? Or maybe CL too ?

Yeah Arsenal did bottle it last season.

As have Liverpool with stevie G Slip, also another season where 10 point lead was thrown away.

Difference Is Liverpool fans make excuses and can't be man enough to be honest.

Don't be bottle job poster like mamoon / Paklfc and make excuses.

Asking a poster for a prediction, when all season he's sat on fence, made statement with disclaimers, lied etc. Your wasting your time bro.

 

[Amjid Javed]

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[KingKhanWC]

Yeah Arsenal did bottle it last season.

As have Liverpool with stevie G Slip, also another season where 10 point lead was thrown away.

Difference Is Liverpool fans make excuses and can't be man enough to be honest.

Don't be bottle job poster like mamoon / Paklfc and make excuses.

Asking a poster for a prediction, when all season he's sat on fence, made statement with disclaimers, lied etc. Your wasting your time bro.

The fact LFC were competing in that season was remarkable.

Bottom job is when you have spent ac much as your rival , have a large points lead & blow it by not beating avg teams with a few games to play . Liverpool only had 2 points lead , it’s not a bottle job. Besides Arsenal have won nothing yet .

Most Arsenal fans believe this is their year but tough matches , dropped points v Villa at home next will change things again .

 

[Amjid Javed]

The fact LFC were competing in that season was remarkable.

Bottom job is when you have spent ac much as your rival , have a large points lead & blow it by not beating avg teams with a few games to play . Liverpool only had 2 points lead , it’s not a bottle job. Besides Arsenal have won nothing yet .

Most Arsenal fans believe this is their year but tough matches , dropped points v Villa at home next will change things again .

Sorry but this "miracle" that Liverpool are competing this season is a load of nonsense.

The reason you didn't compete last season was your midfield was dead and had no legs. That was addressed in the summer, so any sensible fan would have expected Liverpool to compete like they are.

Liverpool was a bottle job on both occasions I mentioned, again your not being man enough to admit that.

Doesn't matter how long a team was top. Liverpool in stevie G slip season just had to win their remaining games after being City 3-2, instead you bottled it vs chelsea reserves and Crystal Palace.

Also giving a 10 point lead in January is also a bottle job.

Arsenal bottled title under wenger in 02/03 (8 point lead in march) and 07/08.
Arsenal should have won a double in 98/99 instead of united treble. It happens, be honest and deal with it.

Who said Arsenal had won anything yet? No one, yet another typical Liverpool fan deflecting tactic saying what have you won.

Most Arsenal fans believe its their year? Really? Where are these fans? Because most Arsenal fans know they have a tough run in still, NO one has been running their mouths saying we will smash city, United, spurs away etc..

Arsenal fans have been fairly grounded knowing its going to be tough run in.

Seems a running theme that liverpool fans like to make things up, saying Arsenal fans have said this, said that etc.. again a typical deflection tactic.

What we have seen is liverpool fans like kroll, paklfc, numerous fans on talksport, the football terrace etc. Run their mouths and make out only Liverpool can compete against City etc..

Even "Mr its in the bag" has kept his mouth shut on predicting an Arsenal title win this season.

The question was on Liverpool falling short before. Yet the reply is always

"We didn't bottle it"

"what have Arsenal done"

"What has Arteta done"

Just a load of deflection. That's the difference, if you ask me if Arsenal bottled it, under performed etc.. I'd say yeah they have.

Instead we get the usual Liverpool being victims response.

 

[Amjid Javed]

7) fixtures, this is something I guarantee you've not even looked at. Title race start to hot up end of march / April.

City's toughest fixtures are in March. Once they get through that they have an easy run in. City play most big teams in March. City vs Arsenal at end of march.

March

2: Man Utd (h)

9: Liverpool (a)

16: Brighton (a)

30: Arsenal (h)

April

3: Aston Villa (h)

6: Crystal Palace (a)

13: Luton (h)

20: Tottenham (a)

27: Nottingham Forest (a)

May

4: Wolves (h)

11: Fulham (a)

19: West Ham (h)

City will win 7 out of their last 8 games. Only spurs away is tough for them.

Arsenal's last 9 fixtures include 4 tough away games vs man city, brighton, spurs and United.


30: Man City (a)

April

2: Luton (h)

6: Brighton (a)

13: Aston Villa (h)

20: Wolves (a)

27: Tottenham (a)

May

4: Bournemouth (h)

11: Manchester United (a)

19: Everton (h)

So reality will be Arsenal will need probably a 9 point lead of more with 9 games to go again, also prove they can actually go on a rum at end of season without dropping points in consecutive games.

@KingKhanWC - as far as title race goes. I said right Start of season who ever wants to win title ahead of City, would need to have a huge lead going into last 8 or 9 games.

I logically looked at fixtures at start of season, also how well City do at back end of season.

As I mentioned both Liverpool or Arsenal will need to be pretty much perfect to keep City off their backs.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Sorry but this "miracle" that Liverpool are competing this season is a load of nonsense.

The reason you didn't compete last season was your midfield was dead and had no legs. That was addressed in the summer, so any sensible fan would have expected Liverpool to compete like they are.

Liverpool was a bottle job on both occasions I mentioned, again your not being man enough to admit that.

Doesn't matter how long a team was top. Liverpool in stevie G slip season just had to win their remaining games after being City 3-2, instead you bottled it vs chelsea reserves and Crystal Palace.

Also giving a 10 point lead in January is also a bottle job.

Arsenal bottled title under wenger in 02/03 (8 point lead in march) and 07/08.
Arsenal should have won a double in 98/99 instead of united treble. It happens, be honest and deal with it.

Who said Arsenal had won anything yet? No one, yet another typical Liverpool fan deflecting tactic saying what have you won.

Most Arsenal fans believe its their year? Really? Where are these fans? Because most Arsenal fans know they have a tough run in still, NO one has been running their mouths saying we will smash city, United, spurs away etc..

Arsenal fans have been fairly grounded knowing its going to be tough run in.

Seems a running theme that liverpool fans like to make things up, saying Arsenal fans have said this, said that etc.. again a typical deflection tactic.

What we have seen is liverpool fans like kroll, paklfc, numerous fans on talksport, the football terrace etc. Run their mouths and make out only Liverpool can compete against City etc..

Even "Mr its in the bag" has kept his mouth shut on predicting an Arsenal title win this season.

The question was on Liverpool falling short before. Yet the reply is always

"We didn't bottle it"

"what have Arsenal done"

"What has Arteta done"

Just a load of deflection. That's the difference, if you ask me if Arsenal bottled it, under performed etc.. I'd say yeah they have.

Instead we get the usual Liverpool being victims response.

I was referring to the Rogers season , it was incredible competing , Suarez & Gerrard were incredible. We lost the league due too various points dropped , only dumb sun readers who don’t understand football truly believe one moment by Gerard caused it lol

May be argued Liverpool bottled it once in recent years , sure no probs from my side , it’s a sport not my life & draft lol

Bottling it is when you throw away a large lead with a few games to go .

Arsenal win every match they win the league. Acc to your logic it will be another bottle Job ? Yes or no ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

@KingKhanWC - as far as title race goes. I said right Start of season who ever wants to win title ahead of City, would need to have a huge lead going into last 8 or 9 games.

I logically looked at fixtures at start of season, also how well City do at back end of season.

As I mentioned both Liverpool or Arsenal will need to be pretty much perfect to keep City off their backs.

I agree City are favourites right now . Liverpool & Arsenal will drop points .

Villa aren’t as good travelling so might go all out defensive. Thoughts on this ?

 

[Amjid Javed]

I was referring to the Rogers season , it was incredible competing , Suarez & Gerrard were incredible. We lost the league due too various points dropped , only dumb sun readers who don’t understand football truly believe one moment by Gerard caused it lol

May be argued Liverpool bottled it once in recent years , sure no probs from my side , it’s a sport not my life & draft lol

Bottling it is when you throw away a large lead with a few games to go .

Arsenal win every match they win the league. Acc to your logic it will be another bottle Job ? Yes or no ?

Arsenal are top on GD with 8 games left, when Liverpool threw it away there were 4 games left, to lose to Chelsea reserves and then draw vs Palace when 3-0 after 75 mins was criminal

United bottle job with 6 games left when Aguero and City won title is biggest title bottle job.

I don't think Arsenal will win all of their last 7 games, espcially as both spurs and united away will be tough. In reality Arsenal might get away with 1 draw.

Arsenal play 5 games in 15 days from Sunday, so this is make or break time now

 

[Amjid Javed]

I agree City are favourites right now . Liverpool & Arsenal will drop points .

Villa aren’t as good travelling so might go all out defensive. Thoughts on this ?

Villa tend to come a go when they play Emirates, unlike some WWE / Rugby teams who park the bus and time waste. So it should be a good open game.

I expect city to beat Luton, Liverpool to play Palace. So pressure will shift to Arsenal playing last

 

[KingKhanWC]

Villa tend to come a go when they play Emirates, unlike some WWE / Rugby teams who park the bus and time waste. So it should be a good open game.

I expect city to beat Luton, Liverpool to play Palace. So pressure will shift to Arsenal playing last

Emre will want to prove himself too along with trying to get top 4 . Although 5th may be enough this year for CL .

The Bayern home fixture tomorrow may play a part . A comfortable win , more confidence .

If you could choose one , CL or PL ?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Emre will want to prove himself too along with trying to get top 4 . Although 5th may be enough this year for CL .

The Bayern home fixture tomorrow may play a part . A comfortable win , more confidence .

If you could choose one , CL or PL ?

Villa will be tricky, but Arsenal should be aiming to win all home games.

Bayern won't be easy, yes domestically they are in poor form. However they are experienced in CL, as we're porto and they made it tough for Arsenal.

Arsenal need a good lead going into 2nd leg, that means defending well and taking chances. I think we can get past Bayern.

I've never been into this choosing trophies. Arsenal should be competing for both. More games they play, better the rythme. The bigger fish to fry is no longer an excuse for Arsenal now. Must win a trophy this season

 

[KingKhanWC]

Villa will be tricky, but Arsenal should be aiming to win all home games.

Bayern won't be easy, yes domestically they are in poor form. However they are experienced in CL, as we're porto and they made it tough for Arsenal.

Arsenal need a good lead going into 2nd leg, that means defending well and taking chances. I think we can get past Bayern.

I've never been into this choosing trophies. Arsenal should be competing for both. More games they play, better the rythme. The bigger fish to fry is no longer an excuse for Arsenal now. Must win a trophy this season

I have a feeling Villa will be happy with a draw as in poor form , 5 pts in 5 matches .

I think most fans would be happy with any trophy , not many expecting both .

I agree BM have given up on the league a while ago but because of this , will give it all in the CL . Bayern have a weak defence so might sit tight, however this is not their way . Fascinating game , a real shame neutrals can’t watch City v Real as both on same day & time .

 

[MK7Z]

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Standard pool response after a result that doesn't go their way.

2 can play that game. Where is the gold one?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Standard pool response after a result that doesn't go their way.

2 can play that game. Where is the gold one?

Arsenal can’t play this game see the numbers . . The point was to show Liverpool doesn’t have a history of bottling it , we compete .

Arsenal best club in London

 

[Amjid Javed]

I have a feeling Villa will be happy with a draw as in poor form , 5 pts in 5 matches .

I think most fans would be happy with any trophy , not many expecting both .

I agree BM have given up on the league a while ago but because of this , will give it all in the CL . Bayern have a weak defence so might sit tight, however this is not their way . Fascinating game , a real shame neutrals can’t watch City v Real as both on same day & time .

Emery rarely plays in over defensive fashion, plus they have been missing a few key players. Arsenal just have to keep defending well in games and goals will come at other end.

Yeah BM have players who can hurt Arsenal so it's down to saliba, Gabriel and rice to play well. Then try and expose BM defense.

 

[MK7Z]

Arsenal can’t play this game see the numbers . . The point was to show Liverpool doesn’t have a history of bottling it , we compete .

Arsenal best club in London

We compete is that how you cope with 1 title in 30+ years?

 

[KingKhanWC]

We compete is that how you cope with 1 title in 30+ years?

The graphic was reg all trophies . So yes , we did so badly in 30 years, we only won 2 champions leagues compared to arsenals 5 .

 

[MK7Z]

The graphic was reg all trophies . So yes , we did so badly in 30 years, we only won 2 champions leagues compared to arsenals 5 .

Bless you bro. I literally said this to myself after I posted the last message that he will come back mentioning champions leagues .... . typical pool fans.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Bless you bro. I literally said this to myself after I posted the last message that he will come back mentioning champions leagues .... . typical pool fans.

You would have saved talking to yourself if you read the graphic . But you’re right to point out 30 Years while we have won it now , 20 something & counting still for Arsenal but let’s not talk to ourselves about this

 

[FearlessRoar]

With that game in mind today is a massive test of Liverpool minerals in a title race.

 

[Mamoon]

@Mamoon

Current opta predictor . I know you’re a fan

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@KingKhanWC

What are the Opta clowns saying now? Have they started watching football now or are they still relying on their mathematicians and statisticians who don’t know the first thing about football?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Oh dear certain spoke to early again. He's probably hiding now on cricket forum.

City will retain their title

 

[Amjid Javed]

Both Arsenal and Liverpool play twice before Man city play. So they can only try and apply pressure now.

More crumbling won't be a shock

 

[KingKhanWC]

@KingKhanWC

What are the Opta clowns saying now? Have they started watching football now or are they still relying on their mathematicians and statisticians who don’t know the first thing about football?

Liverpool & Arsenal fans were watching for sure , watching their teams blow the title race at home . Liverpool dominated possession/chances but were blind in front of goal & as usual asleep at the back in the first half , poor performance at home after a poor performance in midweek .

Arsenal were dominated by Villa in the 2nd half , it seemed Villa were playing for top spot. No chances created at home , players all over the pitch .

When Europe hits this late , very tough to keep fresh , fully fit , energised & mentally strong .

Imo it’s pretty much over for both clubs for PL title . Both will drop more points , likely lose another game too ,

City strong favourites, here’s your opta data . Digest while reading Artetas book on tactical masterclass.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1779573722199859244

 

[Mamoon]

Liverpool & Arsenal fans were watching for sure , watching their teams blow the title race at home . Liverpool dominated possession/chances but were blind in front of goal & as usual asleep at the back in the first half , poor performance at home after a poor performance in midweek .

Arsenal were dominated by Villa in the 2nd half , it seemed Villa were playing for top spot. No chances created at home , players all over the pitch .

When Europe hits this late , very tough to keep fresh , fully fit , energised & mentally strong .

Imo it’s pretty much over for both clubs for PL title . Both will drop more points , likely lose another game too ,

City strong favourites, here’s your opta data . Digest while reading Artetas book on tactical masterclass.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1779573722199859244

All three teams will drop further points. There is all to play for. None of the three sides will win every game from this point.

Therefore I couldn’t care less about this Opta rubbish. It means fairly ever even between the three sides. Lol at this “super computer” that can’t stick to a prediction and is proved wrong every week.

 

[KingKhanWC]

All three teams will drop further points. There is all to play for. None of the three sides will win every game from this point.

Therefore I couldn’t care less about this Opta rubbish. It means fairly ever even between the three sides. Lol at this “super computer” that can’t stick to a prediction and is proved wrong every week.

Supercomputer isn’t the only one who changes it’s mind lol

City play different football, they can lose as it’s sport but unlikely. They have goalscorers all over the park . Only concern would be injuries while still in 3 competitions.

The irony of premier league football , Liverpool lose at home but end up closer then Arsenal on gd.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Arsenal is losing the plot... they really need to press the throttle hard to keep themselves in the top 5.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Surely it's City now. Liverpool have really went off the rails and Arsenal seen to have had a meltdown just like last season.

 

[Amjid Javed]

In regards to Man City, I think Pep being the perfectionist that he is will look at the signings made in the summer and probably not be happy with output. Even with that City are going to walk away with title.

Pep knows KDB needs replacing and also bernardo Silva is likely to final leave.

Looks like City will look at paqueta again, also they are looking at guiameres or Kimmich as well. So they will only get even stronger.

In effect the PL becoming a farmers league

 

[aboveandbeyond]

This won't fill City's rivals with confidence!

 

[hassan918]

After Liverpool and Arsenal both lost their games this weekend and City won big. Manchester City are almost certainly to win the league for the 7th time and 4th in a row.

 

[Mamoon]

In regards to Man City, I think Pep being the perfectionist that he is will look at the signings made in the summer and probably not be happy with output. Even with that City are going to walk away with title.

Pep knows KDB needs replacing and also bernardo Silva is likely to final leave.

Looks like City will look at paqueta again, also they are looking at guiameres or Kimmich as well. So they will only get even stronger.

In effect the PL becoming a farmers league

You can meat ride Pep all you want, but Arsenal will also be stronger next season and they will be at his heels. Pep fears Arteta’s Arsenal more than he fears, or feared, Klopp’s Liverpool.

Arteta will end Pep’s era. It is only a matter of time and fans like yourself who have no faith will not be allowed to celebrate.

 

[shaz619]

You can meat ride Pep all you want, but Arsenal will also be stronger next season and they will be at his heels. Pep fears Arteta’s Arsenal more than he fears, or feared, Klopp’s Liverpool.

Arteta will end Pep’s era. It is only a matter of time and fans like yourself who have no faith will not be allowed to celebrate.

Under which circumstances if any would you criticise Arteta, perhaps this season or beyond

 

[Mamoon]

Under which circumstances if any would you criticise Arteta, perhaps this season or beyond

I would criticize when Arsenal stop challenging for the league title because that would show regression.

Arsenal is a massive club and if you are a massive club, you have to fight for the title every year. Arteta did the rebuild from 2019-2022 when ignorant fans like @Amjid Javed and @Technics 1210 said that he would never have Arsenal competing, but he proved them and countless other people wrong by upgrading Arsenal from a team that celebrated fourth place like a trophy to a team that is now fighting for the title.

Arteta is the reason why Arsenal fans are dreaming of the winning the league again. A club with compromised standards and expectations that celebrated top four like a trophy is now upset at not winning the league.

There is only one man who is responsible for reviving the club and he deserves a lot more respect and a lot less criticism. Nonetheless, genuine fans who understand what he is doing and where he is going are fully behind him.

The toxic bunch are showing their impatience and ignorance again but who cares about them anyway since Arteta has already humbled them.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You can meat ride Pep all you want, but Arsenal will also be stronger next season and they will be at his heels. Pep fears Arteta’s Arsenal more than he fears, or feared, Klopp’s Liverpool.

Arteta will end Pep’s era. It is only a matter of time and fans like yourself who have no faith will not be allowed to celebrate.

Pep has said numerous times his biggest rival has been Klopp . Pls show quotes of him saying it’s Arteta ?

Arteta hasn’t won a trophy yet but will end Peps era ? lol

 

[Mamoon]

Pep has said numerous times his biggest rival has been Klopp . Pls show quotes of him saying it’s Arteta ?

Arteta hasn’t won a trophy yet but will end Peps era ? lol

The Liverpool-City rivalry started in 2018 when Liverpool established themselves as title contenders. Over the next four years, they were the only challengers to City’s throne.

Over the last couple of seasons, Arsenal have displaced Liverpool because they are the only side to challenge City in the last two seasons and they will be there next season as well.

With Liverpool there is no guarantee if they will be up there next season with a new manager.

Also, don’t delude yourself that Klopp vs Pep was a proper fight. It wasn’t. Klopp beat him to the title only once. It was a one-sided battle.

If Arteta stays at Arsenal for a decade like Klopp did at Liverpool, I would expect him to win more than just 1 league title.

So depends on how long Pep stays with the FFP cheats, Arteta will prove himself to be a more worthy rival than Klopp.

No one knows how great Arteta’s potential is as a manager more than Pep does because he worked with him for 3 years.

 

[Mamoon]

Surely it's City now. Liverpool have really went off the rails and Arsenal seen to have had a meltdown just like last season.

Arsenal is losing the plot... they really need to press the throttle hard to keep themselves in the top 5.

Arsenal are having a meltdown and losing the plot for losing their first match in 2024 and we are in April?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Under which circumstances if any would you criticise Arteta, perhaps this season or beyond

All this Arteta cheerleader does is worship a proven bottle job as though he's fergie / clough / Pep / shankley level

Oh Arteta will win 10 PLs if he's in charge for 20 years

Arteta is great because he put cones out for Pep

Arteta has made Arsenal giants again

Nothing more then a teenage crush like nonsense being copy pasted and repeated

Facts

Arteta bottled europa league semi
Arteta bottled Top 4
Arteta bottled PL title last season
Arteta bottling PL title this season as well..


But but Arteta doesn't need to win trophies to prove himself...

 

[Amjid Javed]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1780307475914215615

 

[Kroll]

With both Arsenal and City turfed out of Europe and Liverpool likely to follow, they can all focus their resources and energy for the title run in.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

I understand why City are the favourites but I don't get all these people saying it's done and that it's over

The gap is only 2 points with 18 left to play, plus we know City struggle at the Spurs stadium so I think dropped points there are very likely. Question is, can Arsenal/Liverpool make sure they are in a position to take advantage rather than feeling sorry for themselves like they have been

Arsenal/Liverpool play twice before City play again, if both get 6 points that's an opportunity to put a bit of pressure back on City, who then play two away games, both places they dropped points last season

I think there is another twist that could yet come between now and the end

 

[Amjid Javed]

I understand why City are the favourites but I don't get all these people saying it's done and that it's over

The gap is only 2 points with 18 left to play, plus we know City struggle at the Spurs stadium so I think dropped points there are very likely. Question is, can Arsenal/Liverpool make sure they are in a position to take advantage rather than feeling sorry for themselves like they have been

Arsenal/Liverpool play twice before City play again, if both get 6 points that's an opportunity to put a bit of pressure back on City, who then play two away games, both places they dropped points last season

I think there is another twist that could yet come between now and the end

1) City when in this position in a title race in PL have never Not gone on to win title

2) CIty, Arsenal and Liverpool (baring a miracle) are out of Europe so none of these teams will have a so called advantage of less fixtures to play etc.. (yes city are in FA Cup, but if the get to final that game is after PL season ends)

3) City lead is 2 points, not 1 point which is significant as it gives them possible scope to drop points in 1 game. So if as every is predicting CIty draw or Lose at Spurs. They are winning their other 5 games.

Essentially Arsenal and Liverpool would have to win all 6 of their remaining games. Its all good saying City will drop points. You telling me Arsenal and Liverpool the way they are playing aren't going to drop points?

Have a look at Arsenal's fixtures, are they winning all 6?

Are Liverpool winning all 6?

The way both these teams have mentally checked out in last few games doesn't show a sign of teams who are going to win 6 in a row to win title.

Yeah both sides play twice before City and can pressure with points on board, it's not as though City have had to deal with that before.

Also City know with no CL, not winning PL is a failed season. The other 2 teams have no accountability if they don't win anything, so I fully expected City to take their frustrations out on remaining 6 teams they have to play

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

1) City when in this position in a title race in PL have never Not gone on to win title

2) CIty, Arsenal and Liverpool (baring a miracle) are out of Europe so none of these teams will have a so called advantage of less fixtures to play etc.. (yes city are in FA Cup, but if the get to final that game is after PL season ends)

3) City lead is 2 points, not 1 point which is significant as it gives them possible scope to drop points in 1 game. So if as every is predicting CIty draw or Lose at Spurs. They are winning their other 5 games.

Essentially Arsenal and Liverpool would have to win all 6 of their remaining games. Its all good saying City will drop points. You telling me Arsenal and Liverpool the way they are playing aren't going to drop points?

Have a look at Arsenal's fixtures, are they winning all 6?

Are Liverpool winning all 6?

The way both these teams have mentally checked out in last few games doesn't show a sign of teams who are going to win 6 in a row to win title.

Yeah both sides play twice before City and can pressure with points on board, it's not as though City have had to deal with that before.

Also City know with no CL, not winning PL is a failed season. The other 2 teams have no accountability if they don't win anything, so I fully expected City to take their frustrations out on remaining 6 teams they have to play

1) That may well be true for the past but does not mean that will always be the case for the present and the future, the law of averages state that at some point they will falter when they are in the lead. I'm not saying that will happen but I would absolutely not rule it out

2) I would agree in terms of fixtures that aren't any particular advantages, they all have 6 left to play, though Arsenal have one less to play away in comparison to City and Liverpool

3) I don't agree with that, if they draw and Arsenal win then Arsenal are top on GD, so they don't have that much scope. Of course the GD could change but we are discussing things as they are now and +5 is significant

Again, I'm not saying definitively that Arsenal and Liverpool will win all 6 games. All I am saying is that I would not rule it out, both clubs have gone on bigger winning runs before. Prior to the City draw it was 8 wins on the bounce for Arsenal

With only 2 points in it and 18 left to play I just wouldn't talk in absolutes. What's imperative is both Arsenal and Liverpool bounce back by winning at the weekend.

 

[Amjid Javed]

1) That may well be true for the past but does not mean that will always be the case for the present and the future, the law of averages state that at some point they will falter when they are in the lead. I'm not saying that will happen but I would absolutely not rule it out

2) I would agree in terms of fixtures that aren't any particular advantages, they all have 6 left to play, though Arsenal have one less to play away in comparison to City and Liverpool

3) I don't agree with that, if they draw and Arsenal win then Arsenal are top on GD, so they don't have that much scope. Of course the GD could change but we are discussing things as they are now and +5 is significant

Again, I'm not saying definitively that Arsenal and Liverpool will win all 6 games. All I am saying is that I would not rule it out, both clubs have gone on bigger winning runs before. Prior to the City draw it was 8 wins on the bounce for Arsenal

With only 2 points in it and 18 left to play I just wouldn't talk in absolutes. What's imperative is both Arsenal and Liverpool bounce back by winning at the weekend.

Arsenal's last 6 games are including 3 in the next week

Wolves (A)
Chelsea (H)
Spurs (A)
Bournemouth (H)
United (A)
Everton (H)

So yeah Arsenal have won 8 games in a row, but look at the difficulty of the fixtures left.

The last 2 away games are away to spurs and united.

Also the current form Arsenal are in, the inability to handle pressure in April they ain't winning all 6.

You think City are going to drop points at Spurs? Yeah.

You think Arsenal are going to go to spurs who will have had a 2 week break and find it easy to win their?

Arsenal record at OT is abysmal as well.

The way Arsenal are playing now, Chelsea will fancy their chances at the Emirates

 

[KingKhanWC]

2 points isn’t much , however Liverpool & Arsenal are looking vulnerable at the back & poor up front. City rarely are the poorer team in a match , hence are more likely to take the points .

Arsenal & Liverpool must start winning big in all their games to pressure city & hope they draw a couple towards the end .

Liverpool have the least pressure but the biggest win , as nobody expected this position at the start of the season .

If Liverpool somehow win big tonight , they will win the rest too.

 

[Technics 1210]

It is true, a 2 point lead with 6 games to go is a slim advantage, unlike Arsenal who were 8 points in the lead last season and bottled it with a huge advantage.

Whether a 2 point lead or an 8 point lead - it's all about handling the pressure.

 

[Kroll]

2 points isn’t much , however Liverpool & Arsenal are looking vulnerable at the back & poor up front. City rarely are the poorer team in a match , hence are more likely to take the points .

Arsenal & Liverpool must start winning big in all their games to pressure city & hope they draw a couple towards the end .

Liverpool have the least pressure but the biggest win , as nobody expected this position at the start of the season .

If Liverpool somehow win big tonight , they will win the rest too.

It is true, a 2 point lead with 6 games to go is a slim advantage, unlike Arsenal who were 8 points in the lead last season and bottled it with a huge advantage.

Whether a 2 point lead or an 8 point lead - it's all about handling the pressure.

Very crucial two game week for both Liverpool and Arsenal coming up.

Wolves v Arsenal - Sat
Fulham v Liverpool - Sun

Arsenal v Chelsea - Tues
Everton v Liverpool - Wed

Brighton v City - Thu

No easy games there but Liverpool won't like having to play after Arsenal especially if they win. But if someone can win both their matches, that will make it a bit more tense for City when they play on the Thursday.

Exciting and interesting period coming up.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Very crucial two game week for both Liverpool and Arsenal coming up.

Wolves v Arsenal - Sat
Fulham v Liverpool - Sun

Arsenal v Chelsea - Tues
Everton v Liverpool - Wed

Brighton v City - Thu

No easy games there but Liverpool won't like having to play after Arsenal especially if they win. But if someone can win both their matches, that will make it a bit more tense for City when they play on the Thursday.

Exciting and interesting period coming up.

No room for error for either side. Add to that both sides form has not been great.

Wolves and Fulham have caused upset this season already.

Wolves beating City, Fulham took 4 points of Arsenal.

The midweek games being huge derby games adds extra spice.

 

[Kroll]

No room for error for either side. Add to that both sides form has not been great.

Wolves and Fulham have caused upset this season already.

Wolves beating City, Fulham took 4 points of Arsenal.

The midweek games being huge derby games adds extra spice.

Only little as a few weeks ago, it would have been an easy game against Chelsea but they seem to be playing alright now with Palmer scoring left and right. Yeah big banana skin potential but its at home which will make it a bit easier.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Only little as a few weeks ago, it would have been an easy game against Chelsea but they seem to be playing alright now with Palmer scoring left and right. Yeah big banana skin potential but its at home which will make it a bit easier.

Chelsea have generally played well in bigger games, their players only seem to get up for these games.

One game at a time, wolves away 1st for Arsenal which won't be easy

 

[KingKhanWC]

It was a must win for Arsenal & Liverpool, comfortable in the end but harder tasks are to come .

City still favs

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Arsenal and Liverpool need to win their next game, which I think they both will

That would have them 4 points ahead before City play (though with 2 games in hand)

City are away to Brighton which isn't an easy game, could see them dropping points which would make it interesting

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arsenal and Liverpool need to win their next game, which I think they both will

That would have them 4 points ahead before City play (though with 2 games in hand)

City are away to Brighton which isn't an easy game, could see them dropping points which would make it interesting

Arsenal still have Spurs and united away

In the entire PL history. Arsenal have never won away to spurs and united in the same PL season.

That's a stat thar would have to be broken this season.

You can talk about how bad spurs and united are, Arsenal usually struggle at both grounds

 

[Kroll]

Arsenal and Liverpool need to win their next game, which I think they both will

That would have them 4 points ahead before City play (though with 2 games in hand)

City are away to Brighton which isn't an easy game, could see them dropping points which would make it interesting

Arsenal still have Spurs and united away

In the entire PL history. Arsenal have never won away to spurs and united in the same PL season.

That's a stat thar would have to be broken this season.

You can talk about how bad spurs and united are, Arsenal usually struggle at both grounds

Yup, I think points on the board is better than games in hand.

Spurs will be up for it no doubt as they won't want to see their bitter rivals win the league as will the goons. But first of all, Chelski to take care of.

 

[shaz619]

Villa got a tough game against LFC but the others are winnable, challenge will be to keep the squad fresh with the UCL in mind.

Tottenham will be pushing us for no.4, though they got Arsenal, LFC and City to contend with.

 

[Kroll]

Villa got a tough game against LFC but the others are winnable, challenge will be to keep the squad fresh with the UCL in mind.

Tottenham will be pushing us for no.4, though they got Arsenal, LFC and City to contend with.

Yup, interesting set of fixtures coming up. Some tough ones for the Villains as well but the points on the board are better than the games in hand so we should fancy their chances over Spurs but you never know.

Also, looks like Spurs will have a say on where the title is headed if they can make a few dents when they play the top three.

Aston Villa v Chelsea
Spurs v Arsenal
Chelsea v Spurs

Brighton v Villa
Liverpool v Spurs

Spurs v Burnley
Villa v Liverpool
Spurs v Man City

Crystal Palace v Villa
Sheffield Utd v spurs

 

[Amjid Javed]

1978/79 - was the last time Arsenal won away to spurs (0-5) and man utd (0-2) in the league in the same season.

 

[Technics 1210]

The greatest league in the world.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Huge 45 mins for Liverpool to salvage season @KingKhanWC @Kroll

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Could be a 2 horse race in 30 mins time.

 

[Kroll]

Could be a 2 horse race in 30 mins time.

Looks to be over for Liverpool, can't see where 3 goals are coming from as Salah and Nunez are well off it.

 

[Mamoon]

@KingKhanWC

Remember when you said Liverpool will not finish below Arsenal again and past season was a one-off?

Get used to this feeling. Liverpool will be below Arsenal for many years to come.

 

[Kroll]

@KingKhanWC

Remember when you said Liverpool will not finish below Arsenal again and past season was a one-off?

Get used to this feeling. Liverpool will be below Arsenal for many years to come.

Chalo, with LFC being on top and better for many years and Arsenal consistently having their backside handed to them we can let this one go. Choti Choti khushiyan but this has turned into full on bhangra.

 

[topspin]

Chalo, with LFC being on top and better for many years and Arsenal consistently having their backside handed to them we can let this one go. Choti Choti khushiyan but this has turned into full on bhangra.

Exactly, finishing above Liverpool, even if it is "for many years to come" is worthless if we keep falling short of winning the League.

 

[Mamoon]

@KingKhanWC

What is Opta’s “super computer” saying now?

 

[Mamoon]

Chalo, with LFC being on top and better for many years and Arsenal consistently having their backside handed to them we can let this one go. Choti Choti khushiyan but this has turned into full on bhangra.

Streets won’t forget how Liverpool bottled a 10 point lead over Arsenal in Klopp’s farewell season.

 

[Amjid Javed]

@Kroll @KingKhanWC @PakLFC - looks like Liverpool bottled another title race

 

[Amjid Javed]

The Jurgen Klopp Farewell Tour:
17 March 2024: Farewell FA Cup
18 April 2024: Farewell Europa League
24 April 2024: Farewell Premier League

 

[Amjid Javed]

I see chocking