Why has PCB not acknowledged Mohammad Rizwan yet?

[Devadwal]

A rare bad series for Rizwan at home

 

[Bewal Express]

Anyway I'm not downplaying the importance of keeping, But I'm calling out agenda seekers. Now that rizzu failed with the bat, You and the people I pinged are desperately latching on to this fact. And spreading said agenda. Don't act innocent and pretend that this isn't your end goal.

@Major also did this with Kamran Ghulam. KG made a 100 on debut and Major sahib threw the biggest tantrum I've ever seen. Started trash talking about KG's technique, and then stated how Babar and rizwan are our main batters due to technique which is hilarious as both these 2 atm are more technically flawed then any other batsmen at present.

His a brilliant WK to spinners, a good one to pacers and very solid batsman that has produced in PK and oitside . What is your problem except bitterness

 

[mominsaigol]

His a brilliant WK to spinners, a good one to pacers and very solid batsman that has produced in PK and oitside . What is your problem except bitterness

Outside? You mean international? Do you even know that international keepers feature the likes of Inglis, Quinton, Butler, Conway, Gurbaz? You think Rizzu scales to them lol.

Also please laugh at that solid batsmen part. He's literally An inferior version of Misbah in odi (AND THAT SAYS ALOT, LIKE LITERALLY ALOT ) and in test he's a bootleg version of Ahmed Shehzad from a batting perspective

And tbh i am insulting Ahmed Shehzad by heaps and bounds by saying that

 

[Amjid Javed]

Rizwan did well with gloves this series. His batting was atrocious and isn't good enough to be batting in top 6 when his batting is so woeful

 

[Kianig89]

So Kamran Akmal is the benchmark, unbelievable, Kamran dropped catches all over the world from Sydney to Palekelle to Mohali and not to mention his orgasmic face after the drops

 

[Rana]

So Kamran Akmal is the benchmark, unbelievable, Kamran dropped catches all over the world from Sydney to Palekelle to Mohali and not to mention his orgasmic face after the drops

What exactly is the current ploy?

Rizwan is a world class wicket-keeper/ batsman?

Or Rizwan is a world class Batsman?

Or Rizwan is a world class wicket keeper?

Which one is it currently?

 

[mominsaigol]

In Odi Rizwan is nothing more then an inferior version of Misbah but tbf to him, He has played 3 knocks better then Misbah ever did which includes his 131.

But unlike Misbah who you know would stubbornly bat selfishly and wouldn't get out, and would play at a 20 to 30 sr and once the game was lost would hit a few and get out, Hence that 44 avg and 74 sr,

In rizzu's case you don't even have the guarantee that he's going to stay since he's looking to get out at any time. He plays a bit faster then Misbah does, but he's also an extremely extremely selfish batter that doesn't give a damn about the match situation, so if he does stick around it's likely that he'll lose the game for you just like Misbah did.

In t20 however he's a superior version to Misbah however Misbah's innings against aus in 2007 is > Rizzu's entire career and he's that includes Moqa moqa India imo, but if you think India moqa moqa is better them go for it, idrc and it isn't the point.

Misbah at the end of his t20 lifespan was striking at 95 lol and forced to retire. Rizzu in icc cups also strikes at 100 to 107 as well.

Both are certified t20 bothchers.

Now when it comes to test, it's his best format. He's overhated in this format, but that's entirely because his fans love him to much and spread false narratives.

He's a very medicore and sometimes atrocious batter in test and to top it off, deapite playing at no 6, he has no freaking clue how to bat with the tail enders? Which is shocking given how almoat every single test player at 6,7,8 knows how to bat with the tail.

We saw Liton das do it, we've seen aussie batters do it and sa batter + NZ batters. Infact Jadeja got scrutinized today for giving the weak tail the batting.

Yet rizzu is being praised for his 51 of 80 in the 2nd innings. Haha.

 

[IMMY69]

Rizwan did well with gloves this series. His batting was atrocious and isn't good enough to be batting in top 6 when his batting is so woeful

Are you taking about his batting performances in this series or overall?
I only ask because he has a test average of 40 or above in Pakistan, England, Australia and New Zealand...

We know as a wicket keeper he's one of the best going around, so is this series an exception or is he really that bad?

 

[Kianig89]

What exactly is the current ploy?

Rizwan is a world class wicket-keeper/ batsman?

Or Rizwan is a world class Batsman?

Or Rizwan is a world class wicket keeper?

Which one is it currently?

Rizwan is in the team because selectors felt he is required and best option at the moment.

 

[mominsaigol]

Rizwan is in the team because selectors felt he is required and best option at the moment.

That's not what he asked

 

[Bewal Express]

Outside? You mean international? Do you even know that international keepers feature the likes of Inglis, Quinton, Butler, Conway, Gurbaz? You think Rizzu scales to them lol.

Also please laugh at that solid batsmen part. He's literally An inferior version of Misbah in odi (AND THAT SAYS ALOT, LIKE LITERALLY ALOT ) and in test he's a bootleg version of Ahmed Shehzad from a batting perspective

And tbh i am insulting Ahmed Shehzad by heaps and bounds by saying that

We have seen those WKs, can they keep to spinners like this? No chance
He is good international batsman and always will be. Get over it. You opinion isn't worth jack.

 

[mominsaigol]

We have seen those WKs, can they keep to spinners like this? No chance
He is good international batsman and always will be. Get over it. You opinion isn't worth jack.

Quinton is a much much much better keeper then Rizwan? What are you on about?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Are you taking about his batting performances in this series or overall?
I only ask because he has a test average of 40 or above in Pakistan, England, Australia and New Zealand...

We know as a wicket keeper he's one of the best going around, so is this series an exception or is he really that bad?

In the series alone, as one of the senior players as well he continually got in made a nice 20 or 30 bottled it and got out. Poor lack of responsibility all series

 

[Bewal Express]

In Odi Rizwan is nothing more then an inferior version of Misbah but tbf to him, He has played 3 knocks better then Misbah ever did which includes his 131.

But unlike Misbah who you know would stubbornly bat selfishly and wouldn't get out, and would play at a 20 to 30 sr and once the game was lost would hit a few and get out, Hence that 44 avg and 74 sr,

In rizzu's case you don't even have the guarantee that he's going to stay since he's looking to get out at any time. He plays a bit faster then Misbah does, but he's also an extremely extremely selfish batter that doesn't give a damn about the match situation, so if he does stick around it's likely that he'll lose the game for you just like Misbah did.

In t20 however he's a superior version to Misbah however Misbah's innings against aus in 2007 is > Rizzu's entire career and he's that includes Moqa moqa India imo, but if you think India moqa moqa is better them go for it, idrc and it isn't the point.

Misbah at the end of his t20 lifespan was striking at 95 lol and forced to retire. Rizzu in icc cups also strikes at 100 to 107 as well.

Both are certified t20 bothchers.

Now when it comes to test, it's his best format. He's overhated in this format, but that's entirely because his fans love him to much and spread false narratives.

He's a very medicore and sometimes atrocious batter in test and to top it off, deapite playing at no 6, he has no freaking clue how to bat with the tail enders? Which is shocking given how almoat every single test player at 6,7,8 knows how to bat with the tail.

We saw Liton das do it, we've seen aussie batters do it and sa batter + NZ batters. Infact Jadeja got scrutinized today for giving the weak tail the batting.

Yet rizzu is being praised for his 51 of 80 in the 2nd innings. Haha.

Forget the long essays. Tell me who is a better wK in PK. And don't run off

 

[Bewal Express]

Quinton is a much much much better keeper then Rizwan? What are you on about?

Rubbish. You think QDK would be better in these conditions?

 

[mominsaigol]

Rubbish. You think QDK would be better in these conditions?

As a keeper yes, as a batsmen 100%.

Rizwan avg 19 this series lol. And In the 2st test where pakistan made 556 and England made 800, Rizwan got out on a duck in the first innings lol.

 

[Rana]

Forget the long essays. Tell me who is better in PK. And don't run off

BTW I recon Usman Khan would probably average more than 19 with the bat in 5 innings against England.

 

[mominsaigol]

Also all the keepers besides maybe Conway can keep to spinners like this just fine lol. Their professional keepers, not amateurs

 

[Rana]

Also all the keepers besides maybe Conway can keep to spinners like this just fine lol. Their professional keepers, not amateurs

Apparently only Pakistan has a keeper who can keep to spin, even though they were reluctant to make spin tracks since this keeper was included.

All other countries who played more on spinning tracks didn’t have keepers that could keep to spin like Pakistan’s one and only keeper

 

[mominsaigol]

Oh you’ve got him snookered now haven’t you? But what does it matter who he recommends instead? It’s not like you will agree with him.

BTW I recon Usman Khan would probably average more than 19 with the bat in 5 innings against England.

I've already told him multiple times it can be anyone, as long as they bat at no 7 or no 8 or heck even no 9.

It's better to have specialist keepers and replace rizzu at 6 qith a batsmen.

Sajid Khan and Nouman chacha are good enough for no 7 and no 8. Genuinely their really good, Infact Agha can be promoted to no 6.

If rizzu plays at no 7,8,9 and preferably 9, I'd be happy enough.

Get whoever. Pakistan doesn't have a specialist test batter who can keep, plain and simple. They only have keepers who can bat. The rest like usman Khan don't have fc experience but frankly speaking neither does rizwan as he doesn't even play fc anymore and is being selected based of psl.

If Usman Khan gets selected then no 7 in test for him, in odi or t20 he shpuld be higher for obvious reasons primarily due to his aggressive mature being suited at the top.

 

[mominsaigol]

Forget the long essays. Tell me who is a better wK in PK. And don't run off

It isn't about who's the better keeper.

It's about the fact that you're playing a keeper and pretending that he's a batter when he's very medicore. Infact Ashwin alone is a better test batsmen then Rizwan, So is sajid and Nouman chacha. Heck even Yasir Shah was a better test batsmen then rizwan.

Rizwan shpuld take an Alex Carey approach or moin Khan approach, he needs to bat at no 8 or no 9 lol.

 

[Rana]

It isn't about who's the better keeper.

It's about the fact that you're playing a keeper and pretending that he's a batter when he's very medicore. Infact Ashwin alone is a better test batsmen then Rizwan, So is sajid and Nouman chacha. Heck even Yasir Shah was a better test batsmen then rizwan.

Rizwan shpuld take an Alex Carey approach or moin Khan approach, he needs to bat at no 8 or no 9 lol.

But what about 171* against Bangladesh bro?

 

[Caved12]

Some reports regarding Mohammad Rizwan being the next ODI captain, will this change the fortunes of Pakistan?

The fortunes of Pakistan cricket will only improve if the PCB can establish consistency and fairness in their system. Constant chopping and changing prevent the team from reaching the level of the top three sides in world cricket. The toxic culture of insecurity and jealousy has stifled growth, where young players can perform well for years without getting a proper opportunity. A strong bench creates healthy competition, pushing players to improve continuously and discouraging complacency, as they know a capable replacement is always waiting.

The increasing politics within the team have taken a toll on players like Mohammad Rizwan, whose development as a batter seems to have stalled. Perhaps it would be a blessing in disguise if he isn’t made captain, as the added pressure and politics could negatively affect his mental well being which is a crucial aspect for a wicketkeeper-batsman who is still honing his game across different formats.

While I initially supported Rizwan for captaincy, I am now reconsidering, as the burdens of leadership could hamper his growth. Salman Agha might be a viable alternative, but even he could see his performance suffer if the root problems persist. Until the system is fixed, leadership changes alone won’t be enough to transform Pakistan cricket.

 

[Rana]

In the series alone, as one of the senior players as well he continually got in made a nice 20 or 30 bottled it and got out. Poor lack of responsibility all series

Oh and the review…don’t forget. Pakistan were lucky if he got bowled or gave a clear catch. Otherwise Rizzu Symonds is never out LBW in his head

 

[Bewal Express]

It isn't about who's the better keeper.

It's about the fact that you're playing a keeper and pretending that he's a batter when he's very medicore. Infact Ashwin alone is a better test batsmen then Rizwan, So is sajid and Nouman chacha. Heck even Yasir Shah was a better test batsmen then rizwan.

Rizwan shpuld take an Alex Carey approach or moin Khan approach, he needs to bat at no 8 or no 9 lol.

We have had lots of selectors and lots of matches and the coaches have been local and Foreign. The vast majority rate him very highly, so let's not pretend that know anything about cricket.
Riz is a top WK and after his keeping to the spinners I would put him amongst the best in the World and he is good Solid batsman. Anyone that's says otherwise is talking rubbish. When he dies become a liability he will be replaced.

 

[Bewal Express]

As a keeper yes, as a batsmen 100%.

Rizwan avg 19 this series lol. And In the 2st test where pakistan made 556 and England made 800, Rizwan got out on a duck in the first innings lol.

So you think QDK is better WK than Riz? Based on what?

 

[mominsaigol]

But what about 171* against Bangladesh bro?

171 on a road pitch where spin bradman boosted his avg to 86 but still lost the test game

 

[Rana]

So you think QDK is better WK than Riz? Based on what?

I don’t think anyone would pick Rizwan over QDK just because Rizwan is slightly sharper as a keeper.

Which idiot would pick Rizwan ahead of QDK for anything?

 

[Bewal Express]

Oh you’ve got him snookered now haven’t you? But what does it matter who he recommends instead? It’s not like you will agree with him.

BTW I recon Usman Khan would probably average more than 19 with the bat in 5 innings against England.

Why don't we recommend that dude that scored 42. Off course it matters because if you don't have an alternative then you are just blowing bubbles

 

[Rana]

Why don't we recommend that dude that scored 42. Off course it matters because if you don't have an alternative then you are just blowing bubbles

Why don’t you recommend Rizwan to South Africa instead of QDK? Rizwan is a little bit sharper behind the stumps

 

[Bewal Express]

I don’t think anyone would pick Rizwan over QDK just because Rizwan is slightly sharper as a keeper.

Which idiot would pick Rizwan ahead of QDK for anything?

Why not? It depends on what you value. In the SC The pure WKs can make a massive difference as shown by the artistic display of Riz over the last 2 matches

 

[Bewal Express]

Why don’t you recommend Rizwan to South Africa instead of QDK? Rizwan is a little bit sharper behind the stumps

I will do. Thanks for reminding me

 

[mominsaigol]

So you think QDK is better WK than Riz? Based on what?

Qdk has 221 catches in test cricket including taking 6 catches of spin in a game followed by 8 catches overall in a game? Wdym?

Rizwan max in one innings is 6 followed by only 83 catches in his total career?

In terms of stumping qdk also has a significantly higher number?


Qdk has rizzu beat in everything from dismissals to catches to stumping to moat catches in a game and innings in test? Rizwan has nothing over him in keeping lol.

Same for the other keepers except Conway.

Bro all of this info is already available on howstat

 

[mominsaigol]

Qdk has 221 catches in test cricket including taking 6 catches of spin in a game followed by 8 catches overall in a game? Wdym?

Rizwan max in one innings is 6 followed by only 83 catches in his total career?

In terms of stumping qdk also has a significantly higher number?


Qdk has rizzu beat in everything from dismissals to catches to stumping to moat catches in a game and innings in test? Rizwan has nothing over him in keeping lol.

Same for the other keepers except Conway.

Bro all of this info is already available on howstat

@Bewal Express I have a question, What's your criteria for rating keepers based on keeping ability?

Did you seriously think rizzu has more catches, Stumpings, Run outs etc etc Then QDK?

Sa historically produce the best keepers lol, this is the same country that produced Mark Boucher?

What even are you on about

 

[Bewal Express]

As a keeper yes, as a batsmen 100%.

Rizwan avg 19 this series lol. And In the 2st test where pakistan made 556 and England made 800, Rizwan got out on a duck in the first innings lol.

What does that prove? If this was over a series of series then quote the stat otherwise sit back

 

[Bewal Express]

Qdk has 221 catches in test cricket including taking 6 catches of spin in a game followed by 8 catches overall in a game? Wdym?

Rizwan max in one innings is 6 followed by only 83 catches in his total career?

In terms of stumping qdk also has a significantly higher number?


Qdk has rizzu beat in everything from dismissals to catches to stumping to moat catches in a game and innings in test? Rizwan has nothing over him in keeping lol.

Same for the other keepers except Conway.

Bro all of this info is already available on howstat

How many games did he play on these sort of pitches? And more to the point how many did he miss? I saw him and he was good WK but he has retired. So why not give me stats of Rodney Marsh. Riz is better than an WK playing international cricket today. If you want QDK to be in the consideration, tell him to come back

 

[mominsaigol]

What does that prove? If this was over a series of series then quote the stat otherwise sit back and choke on your bitterness.

Qdk in a single innings has held 8 catches while rizzu had held 4 and in that very same innings he dropped 2 of em?

He could have boosted it to 6 has he caught em?

Have you even seen the knicks that qdk would hold onto whenever a batter would edge it from Dale steyn?

Or have you seen how many times qdk has orchestrated a run out from nothing such as the fakhar zaman 193 run out?

Bro I don't think you've ever watched qdk or you're being intellectually dishonest.

Their isnt a single person in the world who has ever denied QDK being a bad keeper?

Infact he was considered a god send because de villers wasn't great behind the stumps and it was a breathe of fresh air when qdk replaced him.

 

[Bewal Express]

Imagine schooling a guy who claims to be a teacher.

He’s trying to make it sound as if Rizwan is a leopard behind the stumps whereas QDK is a penguin.

Is QDK playing international test cricket today?

 

[mominsaigol]

How many games did he play on these sort of pitches? And more to the point how many did he miss? I saw him and he was good WK but he has retired. So why not give me stats of Rodney Marsh. Riz is better than an WK playing international cricket today. If you want QDK to be in the consideration, tell him to come back

Are you saying Rizwan has played on more spin friendly pitches then QDK even though qdk has played ipl and just scored 4 centuries in a single wc on spinning pitches in India last year?

Your sample size for rizwan is 2 games and you're using that to claim he's kept on more spinning pitches then qdk

 

[mominsaigol]

Is QDK playing international test cricket today?

Pant has more catches, Stumping, run outs and catch per innings in test cricket then rizwan does and he has to literally deal qith Washington, Ashwin and jadeja in India conditons?

Infact he nearly has 2x the amount of catches then rizzu, he has 124 total?

So is he also a worse keeper then rizzu?

 

[Major]

Lets see if Rizwan gets captaincy tomr or not. It either him or Salman agha.

While he was first choixe but he has said to PCB he is only interested captaincy if he has say in squad selection, if not than no thank you.

Good demand by him tomr picture will be clear.

 

[FearlessRoar]

No more personal comments will be tolerated

Assume this is the last warning

 

[Bewal Express]

Pant has more catches, Stumping, run outs and catch per innings in test cricket then rizwan does and he has to literally deal qith Washington, Ashwin and jadeja in India conditons?

Infact he nearly has 2x the amount of catches then rizzu, he has 124 total?

So is he also a worse keeper then rizzu?

But he isn't as good as Riz. Riz is the best in the World ATM. Obviously, that will change as he gets older and loses form

 

[Bewal Express]

Are you saying Rizwan has played on more spin friendly pitches then QDK even though qdk has played ipl and just scored 4 centuries in a single wc on spinning pitches in India last year?

Your sample size for rizwan is 2 games and you're using that to claim he's kept on more spinning pitches then qdk

But that little sample tells you how at home he is. And the fact that PK doesn't have many turners makes his performance even better. But your whole premise is based on the fact that PK has someone better? So amongst our WK/batters who is better. If you can't name one then this whole essay business has been totally futile.

 

[mominsaigol]

But he isn't as good as Riz. Riz is the best in the World ATM. Obviously, that will change as he gets older and loses form

Based of what? Your opinion?

The funny thing is I haven't even stated an opinion. I'm using statical facts.

Again I repeat what's your criteria for rating test keepers based of keeping ability? And where do you rate Mark Boucher?

 

[Bewal Express]

Based of what? Your opinion?

The funny thing is I haven't even stated an opinion. I'm using statical facts.

Again I repeat what's your criteria for rating test keepers based of keeping ability? And where do you rate Mark Boucher?

Yes. You can use statistics but what matters is the selectors and coaches and they think you haven't got a clue because they keep picking him. Thankfully the team isn't picked by guys that want to pick a guy that once scored 42

 

[mominsaigol]

@Bewal Express

Wicket keepers are rated based on

A) How many catches they've taken in their career

B) How many stumps outs they've committed

C) How many run outs

D) No of drop catches, The less it is the better the metric

E) Their keeping ability and performance across every country

F) And how many overhead boundaries they have saved

Qdk outperforms rizzu in virtually every metric. Their isnt a single metric rizwan is better in, not even no of drop catches which is surprising as Qdk has played way way more games then rizzu.

So what's your metric?

 

[mominsaigol]

@Bewal Express

Wicket keepers are rated based on

A) How many catches they've taken in their career

B) How many stumps outs they've committed

C) How many run outs

D) No of drop catches, The less it is the better the metric

E) Their keeping ability and performance across every country

F) And how many overhead boundaries they have saved

Qdk outperforms rizzu in virtually every metric. Their isnt a single metric rizwan is better in, not even no of drop catches which is surprising as Qdk has played way way more games then rizzu.

So what's your metric?

Btw Pant also beats Rizzu in all metrics lol.

 

[shariqnoor]

For a nation that has gone through Kamran Akmal and then Sarfraz Ahmed, it doesn't appreciate Rizwan solely as a wicketkeeper.

 

[SpinKing]

For a nation that has gone through Kamran Akmal and then Sarfraz Ahmed, it doesn't appreciate Rizwan solely as a wicketkeeper.

Don't you know? We have an army of world class wicketkeeper candidates waiting in the wings. Pesky Riz is holding them all back. After a long to and fro, the argument has been established that QdK and Pant are better. Not bad being behind them two though I'd be very skeptical about Pant's ability as a keeper vs Riz. That's my personal opinion - the eye test so to speak.

 

[Major]

Don't you know? We have an army of world class wicketkeeper candidates waiting in the wings. Pesky Riz is holding them all back. After a long to and fro, the argument has been established that QdK and Pant are better. Not bad being behind them two though I'd be very skeptical about Pant's ability as a keeper vs Riz. That's my personal opinion - the eye test so to speak.

The only perspn he is holding back is Azam Khan.

Oh the excitement the two fellows had here when he got selected, as soon as azam started missing everything, both of them vanished and started complaining about babar and rizwan

 

[Bewal Express]

@Bewal Express

Wicket keepers are rated based on

A) How many catches they've taken in their career

B) How many stumps outs they've committed

C) How many run outs

D) No of drop catches, The less it is the better the metric

E) Their keeping ability and performance across every country

F) And how many overhead boundaries they have saved

Qdk outperforms rizzu in virtually every metric. Their isnt a single metric rizwan is better in, not even no of drop catches which is surprising as Qdk has played way way more games then rizzu.

So what's your metric?

So is QDK playing international cricket today? And that means Test cricket. Because I am not sure what you are comparing with what. I am saying that Riz is the best WK in the World today.

 

[Mamoon]

BTW I recon Usman Khan would probably average more than 19 with the bat in 5 innings against England.

You also “reckoned” Amir and Imad would win the World Cup for Pakistan. Your views have zero credibility.

 

[shamaan]

He also kept well and he batted better then rizzu this test. You don't see his fans jumping up and down to highlight what is suppose to be his national duty

Jamie dropped catches in this series unless we both are watching a different match.

 

[mominsaigol]

So is QDK playing international cricket today? And that means Test cricket. Because I am not sure what you are comparing with what. I am saying that Riz is the best WK in the World today.

Pant also surpasses rizzu in every metric as a keeper.

I can pull the stats up for the others as well

 

[Bewal Express]

Pant also surpasses rizzu in every metric as a keeper.

I can pull the stats up for the others as well

No. He is good but not in Rizs class

 

[Rana]

You also “reckoned” Amir and Imad would win the World Cup for Pakistan. Your views have zero credibility.l

Did I recon they would win the World Cup for Pakistan? Can you please quote me, where I said this?

Would be appreciated.

 

[mominsaigol]

No. He is good but not in Rizs class

Based of what? What metric are you using?

For someone who prides themselves on being a coach and a teacher, You clearly are exposing yourself.

Again I ask what metric are using to determine this? Pant is superior to rizzu as a keeper and a test batter in every metric.

What metric are you using.

 

[Bewal Express]

Pant also surpasses rizzu in every metric as a keeper.

I can pull the stats up for the others as well

More to the point you guys need to give us a name better than Riz in PK. Whether I think or you don't makes no difference and is immater6, we need PK names and then we can discuss

 

[mominsaigol]

More to the point you guys need to give us a name better than Riz in PK. Whether I think or you don't makes no difference and is immater6, we need PK names and then we can discuss

No, I won't let you divert the topic, answer > right now. You tend to divert topics alot I've noticed. I'll have the better discussion with you after this

 

[TheSultan]

Rizwan kept well, credit where it’s due.

Now, if he bats at no10 and does not hog a genuine batsman’s spot, I’ll tolerate him. He’s a keeper in the mould of Bob Taylor (England 1980s). Poor batsman who can surprise with some decent runs at no9/10 and a reliable keeper.

 

[Bewal Express]

Based of what? What metric are you using?

For someone who prides themselves on being a coach and a teacher, You clearly are exposing yourself.

Again I ask what metric are using to determine this? Pant is superior to rizzu as a keeper and a test batter in every metric.

What metric are you

No, I won't let you divert the topic, answer > right now. You tend to divert topics alot I've noticed. I'll have the better discussion with you after this

So me asking for a PK WK to replace Riz who and your buddy hate upon is diverting the topic. So I take that you don't have anyone and all this rubbish was just that. What a waste of time

 

[Bewal Express]

Rizwan kept well, credit where it’s due.

Now, if he bats at no10 and does not hog a genuine batsman’s spot, I’ll tolerate him. He’s a keeper in the mould of Bob Taylor (England 1980s). Poor batsman who can surprise with some decent runs at no9/10 and a reliable keeper.

So is his replacement

 

[mominsaigol]

So me asking for a PK WK to replace Riz who and your buddy hate upon is diverting the topic. So I take that you don't have anyone and all this rubbish was just that. What a waste of time

You claimed rizwan is the best test keeper in the world, I showed you Pant who's better.

Now answer this, What metric are you using

 

[Rana]

For a nation that has gone through Kamran Akmal and then Sarfraz Ahmed, it doesn't appreciate Rizwan solely as a wicketkeeper.

Why have you missed out Adnan Akmal? He was the best keeper out of his 3 bros

 

[Bewal Express]

You claimed rizwan is the best test keeper in the world, I showed you Pant who's better.

Now answer this, What metric are you using

I told i think he is the best WK in the World. He takes his chances and makes keeping to spinners look easy. He looks in control in conditions that are alsk pretty alien to him. One guy suggests a player that once scored 42 and you can't even come up with a name. Let's here a name

 

[mominsaigol]

I told i think he is the best WK in the World. He takes his chances and makes keeping to spinners look easy. He looks in control in conditions that are alsk pretty alien to him. One guy suggests a player that once scored 42 and you can't even come up with a name. Let's here a name

Okay so it's nothing more then your opinion that not substantiated by any metric?

Cool, how is that different then me claiming the world is flat?

 

[Rana]

41 was Rizwan’s highest score in this series btw

 

[Bewal Express]

41 was Rizwan’s highest score in this series btw

Yes it is. And

 

[Rana]

The only perspn he is holding back is Azam Khan.

Oh the excitement the two fellows had here when he got selected, as soon as azam started missing everything, both of them vanished and started complaining about babar and rizwan

That’s like saying people were not complaining about Babar and Rizwan before Azam was introduced? Are you lying again?

 

[Rana]

Yes it is. And

Just stating a number like you keep on doing so.

 

[mominsaigol]

41 was Rizwan’s highest score in this series btw

This is the whole argument in a nutshell

Bewal express: Rizzu is the best keeper based of keeping ability in the world

Me: Half the people I named are better.

Bewal: Lol so you think QDK is better?

Me: Here are all the metrics (Catches, Stumping, Run out, laxk of drop catches, overhead boundaries etc) that prove why qdk is a better keeper

Bewal: is QDK playing international cricket? Rizwam is the best cricketer playing currently

Me: Pant is also superior in every metric? So what metric are you using?

Bewal: Give me names from PK, don't change the topic

 

[PakPremi]

Don't you know? We have an army of world class wicketkeeper candidates waiting in the wings. Pesky Riz is holding them all back. After a long to and fro, the argument has been established that QdK and Pant are better. Not bad being behind them two though I'd be very skeptical about Pant's ability as a keeper vs Riz. That's my personal opinion - the eye test so to speak.

QDK and Pant should replace Rizwan in Pakistan team, why is Rizwan not kicked out

 

[mominsaigol]

Which is fine and I happy to stand by my opinion but one fact that can't be changed and that is a metric which a fraud like you can't change is that you have no alternatives to offer. If you can't offer an alternative, then why the constant sourness. Give me a name or shut up

I've already told you anyone who can bat at no 7,8,9 as a specialist keeper until an actual batter who can keep is found.

I literally said anyone. What part of anyone do you not understand. Anyone means any name. It doesn't matter who, Sarfi, Haris, Usman Khan, idc they all can keep even rizwan as long as they bat at 9 because Agha needs to go at 6, Sajid and nouman at 7 and 8.

Rizwan isn't a better batter then these 2, he's useless so anyone at 9.

I already told you this, but your blind beyond belief.

 

[Bewal Express]

I've already told you anyone who can bat at no 7,8,9 as a specialist keeper until an actual batter who can keep is found.

I literally said anyone. What part of anyone do you not understand. Anyone means any name. It doesn't matter who, Sarfi, Haris, Usman Khan, idc they all can keep even rizwan as long as they bat at 9 because Agha needs to go at 6, Sajid and nouman at 7 and 8.

Rizwan isn't a better batter then these 2, he's useless so anyone at 9.

Brilliant.

 

[mominsaigol]

The only perspn he is holding back is Azam Khan.

Oh the excitement the two fellows had here when he got selected, as soon as azam started missing everything, both of them vanished and started complaining about babar and rizwan

I never said anything about Azam, Another lie from you.

 

[Mohraheem]

Because of Misbah

 

[mominsaigol]

I remember when QDK made his debut and came on the scene.

During the 2013 era SA were considered the world's best team in bi laterals. Amla was in his golden stride followed de villers, faf, Jp duminy and steyn + morkel were a nightmare combo.

The issue was de villers was a poor keeper and when qdk came it was a breathe of fresh air.

As time went on qdk became better and better and by 2023 wc people are comparing him to gilchrist now. I still think gilchrist wc final 100 puts him > but qdk is clearly one of the best of all time.

One metric qdk is superior to gilchrist in is pure keeping.

SA historically produces the best keepers, QDK has been regarded multiple times as the perfect successor to mark bpucher in terms of keeping ability.

The only thing that's debatable or controversial about him is that run out tactic he uses where he pretends the ball is going at the other end and the batter slows down.

^^ Honestly I don't mind it, it's a genius tactic and he never got penalised for it. Don't know why more keepers don't employ this.

His keeping against prime steyn and prime imran tahir were a treat to watch, and to top it off you also have SA's best keeper bat of all time as de villers isn't really a keeper bat.

 

[shah9425]

Inshallah new captain of team

Clowns can keep crying

 

[Bewal Express]

QDK and Pant should replace Rizwan in Pakistan team, why is Rizwan not kicked out

This is the weird part. They took 10s of post to give a name to replace Riz and he is a guy that can't get into the A team on a consistent basis.