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Why Indian Hindutva supporters back Israel on Gaza bombing

cricketjoshila said:
Israel couldn't be beaten in a direct fight. So asymmetric warfare was tried. No Israeli response has been disproportionate to take out the very roots of Hamas.

This is a war. Make no mistake about it.
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Funny thing is despite me posting those horrifying videos, nobody here speaks a word against Hamas. Watching those videos would make any normal human being numb. Yet, not a word. Instead they justify it.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Israel couldn't be beaten in a direct fight. So asymmetric warfare was tried. No Israeli response has been disproportionate to take out the very roots of Hamas.

This is a war. Make no mistake about it.
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Most of us are willing to admit what Israel has been doing is wrong. Yet, none of them will admit what Hamas did was wrong or say a word against them.
 
Hitman said:
Funny thing is despite me posting those horrifying videos, nobody here speaks a word against Hamas. Watching those videos would make any normal human being numb. Yet, not a word. Instead they justify it.
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You are funny.

Is it the same Hamas that was supported by Israel until recently or different one?

It isn't about Hamas, it is about occupation, it is the occupation and ethnic cleansing and always will be for anyone who isn't pro israeli and Hindutva.

Don't get confuse.
 
HalBass9 said:
You are funny.

Is it the same Hamas that was supported by Israel until recently or different one?

It isn't about Hamas, it is about occupation, it is the occupation and ethnic cleansing and always will be for anyone who isn't pro israeli and Hindutva.

Don't get confuse.
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As expected. Not a word.
 
cricketjoshila said:
What is this global south and why is India expected to follow it?
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If someone needs to clarify the term 'Global South' for you, why should anyone take your opinions seriously, particularly when you make statements like "asymmetrical war" and "Israel's response hasn't been disproportional"? Every respected scholar not aligned with pro israel or Hindutva ideologies has classified it as genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Your input in this discussion is deemed irrelevant due to your evident Hindutva bias.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Israel couldn't be beaten in a direct fight. So asymmetric warfare was tried. No Israeli response has been disproportionate to take out the very roots of Hamas.

This is a war. Make no mistake about it.
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So why has Netanyahu clearly stated A two state solution is not the way forward.


Why has the defence minister said.

We will cut off the food aid supply. Water supply, Gas, electricity.
This is all effecting the civilian population
 
Hitman said:
I'm pretty sure it won't matter, but here's another animal of Hamas confessing to what he did.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1793617352359342578
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When the Associated Press has to publish an article debunking the sexual account of October 7th, it becomes extremely difficult to accept any news from Israel as truth.

40 beheaded babies.

You are fetching but guess what you are in minority despite having the large Indian population.

The tide has turned.
 
HalBass9 said:
When the Associated Press has to publish an article debunking the sexual account of October 7th, it becomes extremely difficult to accept any news from Israel as truth.

40 beheaded babies.

You are fetching but guess what you are in minority despite having the large Indian population.

The tide has turned.
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Which is the only Islamic country with nukes? What have the done till now other than shed croodile tears?
 
big_gamer007 said:
Read the history.
Ottoman Empire fell and France took control of land known as Syria today and Britain took control of land known as Palestine. Hence, Palestine was formed, then Britain immigrated the Jews to form Israel in 1948 as part of Belfour declaration for the support Jews gave them in both the wars.

Most of the conflicts in the world are due to the superpowers - British/US/Russia.
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You've said it yourself there. The land known as Palestine was officially recognised as...Palestine. 😄

Nice of the Brits to give the Palestinians the land they always had.
 
Hitman said:
Which is the only Islamic country with nukes? What have the done till now other than shed croodile tears?
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I am not an official representative of government of Pakistan. I do not speak for them. I speak for myself.
 
Hitman said:
Most of us are willing to admit what Israel has been doing is wrong. Yet, none of them will admit what Hamas did was wrong or say a word against them.
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You are talking about people, who deny terrorist attacks as false flags. Call terrorists as freedom fighters.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
So why has Netanyahu clearly stated A two state solution is not the way forward.


Why has the defence minister said.

We will cut off the food aid supply. Water supply, Gas, electricity.
This is all effecting the civilian population
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Those 1200 killed in October were not civilians?

How many times has Israel been attacked in last 70 years?
 
HalBass9 said:
If someone needs to clarify the term 'Global South' for you, why should anyone take your opinions seriously, particularly when you make statements like "asymmetrical war" and "Israel's response hasn't been disproportional"? Every respected scholar not aligned with pro israel or Hindutva ideologies has classified it as genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Your input in this discussion is deemed irrelevant due to your evident Hindutva bias.
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What is this global south that India needs to follow and why?

Why do 1.5bn people need to follow any other country and not have its opinion based on its own interests?

We, Indians will do what we feel is in our interests. We don't take sides because someone else is doing the same.

For you, anyone who doesn't align with your opinion is Hindutva and Israeli supporter.

Israel has responded to killing of its citizens and repeated attacks of Hamas. Israel is in a state of war and a war it was provoked into joining.
 
cricketjoshila said:
What is this global south that India needs to follow and why?

Why do 1.5bn people need to follow any other country and not have its opinion based on its own interests?

We, Indians will do what we feel is in our interests. We don't take sides because someone else is doing the same.

For you, anyone who doesn't align with your opinion is Hindutva and Israeli supporter.

Israel has responded to killing of its citizens and repeated attacks of Hamas. Israel is in a state of war and a war it was provoked into joining.
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I am inclined to respond, albeit the futility seems apparent. The beliefs of Hindutva supporters hold scant sway over the majority of global sentiment.

As previously noted, the prevailing tide has shifted, rendering your endorsement of the genocide inconsequential.
 
HalBass9 said:
I am inclined to respond, albeit the futility seems apparent. The beliefs of Hindutva supporters hold scant sway over the majority of global sentiment.

As previously noted, the prevailing tide has shifted, rendering your endorsement of the genocide inconsequential.
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We don't care. We didn't care when NATO and entire Europe was against Russia.

We took our own stand.

We don't care now either about other's opinion. We have our own stand.

The only thing inconsequential is the opinion of pakistanis on India. Ask Imran Khan.
 
HalBass9 said:
I am inclined to respond, albeit the futility seems apparent. The beliefs of Hindutva supporters hold scant sway over the majority of global sentiment.

As previously noted, the prevailing tide has shifted, rendering your endorsement of the genocide inconsequential.
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First Global South.

Now Global sentiment.

Talk about Pakistan. Pakistani rulers don't care about what you got to say and you are talking about global opinion.
 
Ofcourse we don't care. Did we stop trade with Russia because Europe and NATO did? No.

Why do you think we will do anything different now?

Giving up? On what? Convincing a group of people who think terrorist attacks are false flags and terrorists are freedom fighters?

I haven't seen many if any in India bother about Russia or Ukraine or Israel or Gaza. Not our fight, not our problem.

Israel is at war and so is Russia and Ukraine. Our relationship don't change on the basis of it.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
You've said it yourself there. The land known as Palestine was officially recognised as...Palestine. 😄

Nice of the Brits to give the Palestinians the land they always had.
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When Ottoman empire was in power there was nothing such as Palestine, the land will obviously be there and not just evaporate in thin air. But Palestine ceased to exist it was Ottoman Syria or Ottoman Empire.

When British won WW1 they divided the land and Syria separated and Palestine was formed again.

So yes, British created Palestine “again”. Same way they created Israel “again”.

Both Palestine and Israel pre-dates Ottoman Empire, however, ceased to exist during Ottoman period and then British recreated them.

If you are not just here just to purposefully troll, read up on the history and then you would understand the role of Britain in all this
 
HalBass9 said:
Not as brave as IDF.
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Therein lies the crux of the problem. When @Hitman posted a video showing atrocities of Hamas your first instinct was to deflect and blame IDF instead of unequivocally condemning it.

You did the exact same thing what you are accusing the so called “hindutva” supporters of doing.

People have a mindset where they think they have moral high ground but in reality they support extremism. You are supporting extremism of Hamas by deflecting their attacks, whereas, the ones you call “hindutva” supporters are supporting extremism by Israel.

Till either one of them exists (mindset wise) in this world the conflict will never be solved.
The only way this conflict will ever be resolved is when people start valuing human life over religion. When that happens there will be unequivocal condemnation of any extremism from any side with 0 public support, which will result in that side eventually having to stop their extremism.


I don’t expect you to understand all these things, same way as I don’t expect the people you call “hindutva” supporters to understand.

But what is clear is till both of you exist, this conflict will continue.
 
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big_gamer007 said:
When Ottoman empire was in power there was nothing such as Palestine, the land will obviously be there and not just evaporate in thin air. But Palestine ceased to exist it was Ottoman Syria or Ottoman Empire.

When British won WW1 they divided the land and Syria separated and Palestine was formed again.

So yes, British created Palestine “again”. Same way they created Israel “again”.

Both Palestine and Israel pre-dates Ottoman Empire, however, ceased to exist during Ottoman period and then British recreated them.

If you are not just here just to purposefully troll, read up on the history and then you would understand the role of Britain in all this
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big_gamer007 said:
When Ottoman empire was in power there was nothing such as Palestine, the land will obviously be there and not just evaporate in thin air. But Palestine ceased to exist it was Ottoman Syria or Ottoman Empire.

When British won WW1 they divided the land and Syria separated and Palestine was formed again.

So yes, British created Palestine “again”. Same way they created Israel “again”.

Both Palestine and Israel pre-dates Ottoman Empire, however, ceased to exist during Ottoman period and then British recreated them.

If you are not just here just to purposefully troll, read up on the history and then you would understand the role of Britain in all this
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The name underwent alterations during the rule of different empires, yet the inhabitants remained unchanged until the arrival of European settlers, who then decided to evict those who had resided on the land for centuries.
 
HalBass9 said:
There may be a select few on this forum, but in India, out of the majority of Hindutva adherents, there are only a select few who wouldn't condemn the genocide without justifying it.
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Majority of people in India, BJP supporters or not have 0 clue about the conflict and have 0 interest in it.

They have their own struggles in life to worry about what’s going on thousands of miles away from them where they will never ever go and they don’t even know where it’s on the map.

The vocal ones are either the ones who support one side due to their religion or the ones who support Israel due to their hatred for the other sides religion.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Therein lies the crux of the problem. When @Hitman posted a video showing atrocities of Hamas your first instinct was to deflect and blame IDF instead of unequivocally condemning it.

You did the exact same thing what you are accusing the so called “hindutva” supporters of doing.

People like you have a mindset where they think they have moral high ground but in reality they support extremism. You are supporting extremism of Hamas by deflecting their attacks, whereas, the ones you call “hindutva” supporters are supporting extremism by Israel.

Till either one of you exists (mindset wise) in this world the conflict will never be solved.
The only way this conflict will ever be resolved is when people start valuing human life over religion. When that happens there will be unequivocal condemnation of any extremism from any side with 0 public support, which will result in that side eventually having to stop their extremism.


I don’t expect you to understand all these things, same way as I don’t expect the people you call “hindutva” supporters to understand.

But what is clear is till both of you exist, this conflict will continue.
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Anyone with a shred of decency would condemn those who commit heinous crimes.

It's the Hindutva followers here who seem to be deflecting, suggesting that condemning other issues is a prerequisite to condemn genocide and ethnic cleansing. Maybe check the thread's title if you're not sure where we are.
 
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big_gamer007 said:
Majority of people in India, BJP supporters or not have 0 clue about the conflict and have 0 interest in it.

They have their own struggles in life to worry about what’s going on thousands of miles away from them where they will never ever go and they don’t even know where it’s on the map.

The vocal ones are either the ones who support one side due to their religion or the ones who support Israel due to their hatred for the other sides religion.
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Are you implying that if a survey were conducted in India, a significant majority of Hindutva followers would express condemnation towards the Indian government's decision to supply weapons to Israel, given the potential for their use in acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing?

Regarding the demographic support for the BJP, it's widely acknowledged that a substantial portion of Hindutva adherents align themselves with the BJP. Indeed, it's frequently observed that anti-Muslim rhetoric garners significant approval within among supporters of the BJP, when articulated by prominent figures such as Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
 
HalBass9 said:
Anyone with a shred of decency would condemn those who commit heinous crimes.

It's the Hindutva followers here who seem to be deflecting, suggesting that condemning other issues is a prerequisite to condemn genocide and ethnic cleansing. Maybe check the thread's title if you're not sure where we are.
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I just quoted the post where you did exact thing you are accusing Indian posters of doing here.

For whatever wrongs you believe Indian posters of doing, you can’t use it as an excuse for doing the same.
 
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HalBass9 said:
Are you implying that if a survey were conducted in India, a significant majority of Hindutva followers would express condemnation towards the Indian government's decision to supply weapons to Israel, given the potential for their use in acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing?

Regarding the demographic support for the BJP, it's widely acknowledged that a substantial portion of Hindutva adherents align themselves with the BJP. Indeed, it's frequently observed that anti-Muslim rhetoric garners significant approval within among supporters of the BJP, when articulated by prominent figures such as Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
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I am implying the fact that majority of Indians won’t participate in survey or would have 0 knowledge of the issue.
How difficult is for you to understand a simple fact, majority of Indians don’t care about neither Palestine nor Israel.
They have their own issues to deal with.

For the Indian supporting Palestine, majority will be Muslims.
For Indians supporting Israel, majority will have some form of anti muslim hate imbibed in their minds.

For normal Indians, they don’t care about either party.
 
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HalBass9 said:
The name underwent alterations during the rule of different empires, yet the inhabitants remained unchanged until the arrival of European settlers, who then decided to evict those who had resided on the land for centuries.
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You quoted a post and chimed in with something irrelevant to that specific post.

You can’t pick and choose how far you can go in history as per your convenience. The ancestors of the people who you are claiming to have resided for centuries themselves displaced and persecuted the ancestors of those European settlers coming to do the same.

Either you are totally clueless about the history and are just pick and choosing whatever suits your agenda or your thoughts and thinking capability can’t look beyond your religious affiliations.
In either case till people don’t move out of chains they have on their mind, this issue won’t ever be resolved.
 
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I hardly see any indian bothering about Israel or Gaza. Ofcourse Israel has a positive image in India due to their help during 1999 Kargil war. It was and is widely talked about in media.

Secondly, Israel has started hiring a large number of Indians in Israel.

Also these days you will find Israelis vacationing in India in large numbers.

Indians have no problems with Israel and isn't going to start condemnation of Israel because our padosis are doing it.

What's funny is that he thinks that calling people Hindutva supporter is some kind of abuse and that Indian Hindus will be scared because of that.
 
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big_gamer007 said:
You quoted a post and chimed in with something irrelevant to that specific post.

You can’t pick and choose how far you can go in history as per your convenience. The ancestors of the people who you are claiming to have resided for centuries themselves displaced and persecuted the ancestors of those European settlers coming to do the same.

Either you are totally clueless about the history and are just pick and choosing whatever suits your agenda or your thoughts and thinking capability can’t look beyond your religious affiliations.
In either case till people like you don’t move out of chains they have on their mind, this issue won’t ever be resolved.
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If Ottomans conquering the area was ok, how is Jews taking it back not ok?
 
big_gamer007 said:
Religion is one of the major factor which limits most peoples ability to think logically.
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I'll digress to another topic. I have always, always expressed regret for the Gujarat riots. It remains one of the most shameful events in out country's history. But have you seen any Pakistani poster ever condemn the Godhra train burning that led to the riots? I've seen plenty of posters here dismissing it as a false flag just so that the riots could take place. They are the first ones to bring up Modi's role in the riots. But they'll never admit the role Muslims played in the burning of that train. And therein lies the difference.​
 
Hitman said:
I'll digress to another topic. I have always, always expressed regret for the Gujarat riots. It remains one of the most shameful events in out country's history. But have you seen any Pakistani poster ever condemn the Godhra train burning that led to the riots? I've seen plenty of posters here dismissing it as a false flag just so that the riots could take place. They are the first ones to bring up Modi's role in the riots. But they'll never admit the role Muslims played in the burning of that train. And therein lies the difference.​
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That’s just how the world is mate, religion is the biggest tool used to cloud one’s judgement.
 
big_gamer007 said:
When Ottoman empire was in power there was nothing such as Palestine, the land will obviously be there and not just evaporate in thin air. But Palestine ceased to exist it was Ottoman Syria or Ottoman Empire.

When British won WW1 they divided the land and Syria separated and Palestine was formed again.

So yes, British created Palestine “again”. Same way they created Israel “again”.

Both Palestine and Israel pre-dates Ottoman Empire, however, ceased to exist during Ottoman period and then British recreated them.

If you are not just here just to purposefully troll, read up on the history and then you would understand the role of Britain in all this
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Palestine didn't cease to exist during the Ottoman Empire, it was just part of the empire, and Jewish people lived there alongside Muslim, there was no Israel as far as I am aware. If you know different then please advise.
 
Hitman said:
I'll digress to another topic. I have always, always expressed regret for the Gujarat riots. It remains one of the most shameful events in out country's history. But have you seen any Pakistani poster ever condemn the Godhra train burning that led to the riots? I've seen plenty of posters here dismissing it as a false flag just so that the riots could take place. They are the first ones to bring up Modi's role in the riots. But they'll never admit the role Muslims played in the burning of that train. And therein lies the difference.​
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That's because every time the hindutvas riot, there is always some prior atrocity by Muslims suddenly discovered after the event by the RSS brigade. Sorry but we just don't buy this idea of minorities inviting death and destruction at the hands of the majority for no good reason.
 
big_gamer007 said:
You quoted a post and chimed in with something irrelevant to that specific post.

You can’t pick and choose how far you can go in history as per your convenience. The ancestors of the people who you are claiming to have resided for centuries themselves displaced and persecuted the ancestors of those European settlers coming to do the same.

Either you are totally clueless about the history and are just pick and choosing whatever suits your agenda or your thoughts and thinking capability can’t look beyond your religious affiliations.
In either case till people like you don’t move out of chains they have on their mind, this issue won’t ever be resolved.
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I appreciate the history lesson; it's clear that many of us have a good grasp of the subject.

It is apparent that some individuals have become ensnared in justifying genocide and ethnic cleansing, akin to many other Indians who align with Hindutva ideology, feign ignorance of it, or simply act out of cultural affiliation. They often employ the excuse that only Jews inhabited certain territories thousands of years ago.

Now, I implore you to consider: under what circumstances in the year 2024 would genocide, forced displacement of communities with centuries-long roots in the land, and ethnic cleansing be deemed morally acceptable? Thank you for your response.
 
big_gamer007 said:
I am implying the fact that majority of Indians won’t participate in survey or would have 0 knowledge of the issue.
How difficult is for you to understand a simple fact, majority of Indians don’t care about neither Palestine nor Israel.
They have their own issues to deal with.

For the Indian supporting Palestine, majority will be Muslims.
For Indians supporting Israel, majority will have some form of anti muslim hate imbibed in their minds.

For normal Indians, they don’t care about either party.
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I appreciate the confirmation of the thread's title.

The initial argument in the thread asserted that despite both being morally reprehensible and criminal in nature, many proponents of Hindutva would still advocate for genocide and ethnic cleansing against Muslims.
 
big_gamer007 said:
I just quoted the post where you did exact thing you are accusing Indian posters of doing here.

For whatever wrongs you believe Indian posters of doing, you can’t use it as an excuse for doing the same.
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How am I aligning with those who justify genocide in my comments, even though, regardless of any criminality, genocide and ethnic cleansing against children of all ages should not be accepted? isn't IDF killing kids indiscriminately, destroying hospital, killing doctors or anyone with a pulse?

Not a single Hamas's atrocities against innocent Israel could and would justify the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Try to understand that simple fact, and what many Indians, particularly the followers of Hindutva are doing, is trying to find any justification to support their bigoted ideology.

So please read well before you go an accusation.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
That's because every time the hindutvas riot, there is always some prior atrocity by Muslims suddenly discovered after the event by the RSS brigade. Sorry but we just don't buy this idea of minorities inviting death and destruction at the hands of the majority for no good reason.
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This is what happens when you live in a echo chamber thats located nowhere close to action or even worse never even been there... you have effing no Idea about ground level realities in India. ZERO.

Here is a LIVE example of what happens in real life:

Link --> Cow vigilante's in action
 
HalBass9 said:
How am I aligning with those who justify genocide in my comments, even though, regardless of any criminality, genocide and ethnic cleansing against children of all ages should not be accepted? isn't IDF killing kids indiscriminately, destroying hospital, killing doctors or anyone with a pulse?

Not a single Hamas's atrocities against innocent Israel could and would justify the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Try to understand that simple fact, and what many Indians, particularly the followers of Hindutva are doing, is trying to find any justification to support their bigoted ideology.

So please read well before you go an accusation.
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would IDF be killing civilians TODAY if not for what happened on Oct 7th last year ?
 
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uppercut said:
Do this thought exercise let us know what your answer to this is : would IDF be killing civilians TODAY if not for what happened on Oct 7th last year ?
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What a pathetic question.

IDF have been killing innocent children and women for the last 76years.

Your sheer hatred and ignorance does not allow you to fathom the facts.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
What a pathetic question.

IDF have been killing innocent children and women for the last 76years.
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And Muslims been doing that literally for Centuries ( and not just against Jews ) which you are ok with right ?


aboveandbeyond said:
Your sheer hatred and ignorance does not allow you to fathom the facts.
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we will find out soon if and when you answer the above question and why you have no qualms about that.
 
It goes both ways.

we see Pakistanis supporting a group of muslim only because of a shared religion and nothing else.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
That's because every time the hindutvas riot, there is always some prior atrocity by Muslims suddenly discovered after the event by the RSS brigade. Sorry but we just don't buy this idea of minorities inviting death and destruction at the hands of the majority for no good reason.
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Except that the train burning happened before and was all over the news in India, and the riots happened after that. Please don't open your mouth without knowing the facts.
 
uppercut said:
And you comment as though nothing happened in the past and that Muslims have a spotless track record when it comes to indulging in really horrific atrocities.
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No Sir, I've never denied history, it's just I'd never find any acceptable justification for the genocide and ethnic cleansing in the year 2024, as it not morally acceptable but also criminal under International law.
 
HalBass9 said:
No Sir, I've never denied history, it's just I'd never find any acceptable justification for the genocide and ethnic cleansing in the year 2024, as it not morally acceptable but also criminal under International law.
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Good. Now try questioning your fellow co-religionists why they have such a poor track record when it comes to atrocities and why they dont ever believe in conflict resolution thru dialogue and peaceful means.
 
RexRex said:
All those 30,000 were helping Hamas hide ?
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do you have a way of identifying every individuals political allegiance ? And since there is none ... IDF should shut up and stay put ? this is how you want Israel to operate ?
 
uppercut said:
do you have a way of identifying every individuals political allegiance ? And since there is none ... IDF should shut up and stay put ? this is how you want Israel to operate ?
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i see .. so since we don't know how 30,000 people think, let's just murder them all just in case there's 1 hamas chap amongst them.

That makes sense ...... to a bloodthirsty bhakt :facepalm:
 
RexRex said:
i see .. so since we don't know how 30,000 people think, let's just murder them all just in case there's 1 hamas chap amongst them.

That makes sense ...... to a bloodthirsty bhakt :facepalm:
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I see so IDF should just drop their weapons and surrender ( or even better convert ). Sounds like the text book definition of a Genocidal Jihadi. True colors and all that ....
 
uppercut said:
And Muslims been doing that literally for Centuries ( and not just against Jews ) which you are ok with right ?




we will find out soon if and when you answer the above question and why you have no qualms about that.
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I Condemn the killing of all civilian life.

Reality is, this thread has definetly lived up to its billing. Infact i/we underestimated the level of sympathy towards the zionest Genocidal extremists from the RSS brigade. But when you scratch the surface, then there's no surprise at all.

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uppercut said:
Good. Now try questioning your fellow co-religionists why they have such a poor track record when it comes to atrocities and why they dont ever believe in conflict resolution thru dialogue and peaceful means.
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I'm not privy to your maturity level, and it would be impolite for me to speculate. However, I must insist that you refrain from addressing us as if we were born on or after October 8th.

Moreover, each of your comments serves to reinforce the notion that adherents of Hindutva are inclined to rationalize the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Muslims, owing to their upbringing and relentless indoctrination, irrespective of the justifications they employ to veil their bigotry.

I have no further inclination to engage with individuals who endorse the propagation of violence against innocent children in 2024, as it stands in direct violation of international criminal law and is morally repugnant.
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Hitman said:
Except that the train burning happened before and was all over the news in India, and the riots happened after that. Please don't open your mouth without knowing the facts.
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The "train burning" was disputed, and an independent commission concluded it was an accident. But once the hindutva torch has been lit then of course this was always going to be transformed into an act of malicious Islamic terror by the invested parties. This is how the hate movements operate.
 
HalBass9 said:
I'm not privy to your maturity level, and it would be impolite for me to speculate. However, I must insist that you refrain from addressing us as if we were born on or after October 8th.
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Using that exact same yardstick for gauging maturity levels you should start by putting that same maturity to good use by trying to find out why Israel responds in a brutal manner and stop pretending as though Muslims are bonafide saints.

HalBass9 said:
Moreover, each of your comments serves to reinforce the notion that adherents of Hindutva are inclined to rationalize the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Muslims, owing to their upbringing and relentless indoctrination, irrespective of the justifications they employ to veil their bigotry.
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Nobody is endorsing anything .... just exposing the brazen duplicity of Muslims who like to pretend that they did no wrong ever in the past. When in fact the opposite is true. No surprises that you dont like the outcome.

HalBass9 said:
I have no further inclination to engage with individuals who endorse the propagation of violence against innocent children in 2024, as it stands in direct violation of international criminal law and is morally repugnant
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Those would mostly be your own co-religionsts who have been at it for CENTURIES. That somehow doesnt seem to bother you. No surprises there at all.
 
The Nanavati-Mehta commission, appointed by the state government in the immediate aftermath of the event, concluded in 2008 that the burning was a pre-planned arson committed by a thousand-strong Muslim mob.[5] The one member Banerjee commission, instituted by the then rail minister Lalu Prasad Yadav of the Ministry of Railways, characterized the fire as an accident in 2006:[6] however, the Gujarat High Court found its appointment to be unconstitutional and quashed all findings.[7] An independent investigation by a non-governmental organization also supported the theory of the burning being an accident.[8] Scholars remain skeptical about the claims of arson.[2][4][9]

Godhra train burning - Wikipedia

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Knock yourself out.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The "train burning" was disputed, and an independent commission concluded it was an accident. But once the hindutva torch has been lit then of course this was always going to be transformed into an act of malicious Islamic terror by the invested parties. This is how the hate movements operate.
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Accidental fire where somehow the doors were locked from outside so that passengers couldn't get out? :ROFLMAO: 😆
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Knock yourself out.
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How is Lalu Prasad Yadav "Independent" (Let alone someone with any morals and integrity) in this dispute? This man is soooo corrupt that he would make a few Pakistani Generals look like saints.

As I have said before... you know absolutely nothing about Indian politics ..

BTW that supposedly "Independent" report was summarily squashed by courts( Hint: You should read your own links sometimes lol ). And before you want to try and hide behind the all encompassing Hindutva conspiracy theory know this: When the Supreme Court made the final decision on this case the Administration that was ruling the country at that time was NOT BJP. Infact it was the same Govt that had setup the Banerjee Commission to "Investigate" a crime years after the event and without any jurisdiction.

But dont let the facts stop you from indulging in more conspiracy theories
 
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uppercut said:
I see so IDF should just drop their weapons and surrender ( or even better convert ). Sounds like the text book definition of a Genocidal Jihadi. True colors and all that ....
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I have to say though .. given your justification of Modi's 2001 genocide and now this Gaza atrocity, you certainly seem to have a fetish for the murder of random muslims standing by. In both cases, thousands of innocent ones who had nothing to do with the original sin were killed. But you say they deserved it. Shameful.
 
RexRex said:
How am I a genocidal jihadi ? I am not even muslim. You're just throwing random words out there lol.
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Exactly like how you made me Bhakt/Hindutva/Extremist etc etc.... Two can play this game you know .... lol
 
RexRex said:
I have to say though .. given your justification of Modi's 2001 genocide
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I cannot justify anything that the courts have summarily dismissed. So according to your bizzarro theory the Indian SC is also endorsing genocide then ?. lol

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and now this Gaza atrocity, you certainly seem to have a fetish for the murder of random muslims standing by. In both cases, thousands of innocent ones who had nothing to do with the original sin were killed. But you say they deserved it. Shameful.
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And given your penchant for trying to whitewash far more horrific crimes by Muslims you are the one that has a bigger fetish and should act upon your own morality lectures.
 
‘This is a genocide…’: Swara Bhasker calls for immediate ceasefire in Gaza

Bollywood actor Swara Bhasker expressed her grief on the genocide in Gaza as she joined the voice calling for an immediate ceasefire in the region.

While the majority of Bollywood celebrities chose to stay mum over the ongoing war in Gaza, actor Swara Bhasker raised her concerns and condemned the atrocities on Palestinians, urging for an immediate halt to the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza.

Taking to her Instagram handle earlier this week, she shared a note, which read: “Every time I open social media, I feel my head will explode… It’s been freakin’ 8 months almost. My baby was 15 days old on 7 Oct. She can now sit up without support. She holds and lifts things. She recognises different people. Responds to her name. Babbles constantly. Almost crawls. I look at her and I can’t stop thinking that while she has been growing, Israel has relentlessly been bombing and starving the people of Gaza. They’ve been slaughtering babies. Their snipers have been intentionally shooting and assassinating children.”

“Hind Rajab was 6 years old,” she continued. “They’ve been attacking hospitals and murdering doctors. Babies have died in [the] ICU. Corpses have been rotting hospitals.”

“And all this while… the USA has been sending Israel more weapons and white men (and women) in positions of power are still debating IF this is a genocide. What a broken broken world our children are inheriting!” Bhasker concluded.

Sharing a note on her feed, the ‘Raanjhana’ actor captioned, “It has to be said! As many times as it takes the world to act and get the terrorist state of Israel to ceasefire now.”

Thousands of her Instagram followers liked the post and appreciated the actor for her clear support for Palestine in the ongoing war across Gaza.

Notably, Israeli forces killed at least 60 Palestinians in aerial and ground bombardments across the Gaza Strip on Thursday and battled in close combat with Hamas in areas of the southern city of Rafah, health officials and Hamas media said.

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'This is a genocide...': Swara Bhasker calls for immediate ceasefire in Gaza

Bollywood actor Swara Bhasker expressed her grief on the genocide in Gaza as she joined the voice calling for an immediate ceasefire in the region. Watch
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