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Will Joe Root beat Sachin Tendulkar's record in Tests for most runs?

This has sadly become a thread for trolls and shock jocks aiming to provoke reactions rather than appreciating efforts of two all time great batters.

Whether Root crosses Tendulkar's tally or whether he wins an away Ashes not will not significantly impact either of their legacies which are already rich and glittering.

Further, Root's not having a century is more of a loss for Aussie audiences who have missed the privelege of enjoying a great batter and I hope he gives them this gift on this tour.

Statistically, the chances of Root crossing Tendulkar are fairly reasonable. However 2500 runs is a long journey. Except for rare outliers like Kallis/Sangakkara the dropoff at the end for great batters is almost always abrupt. So Root will likely need another 30 tests atleast.

His next upcoming series are:
5 tests vs Aus away 2025 winter
3 tests vs NZ at home 2026 summer
3 tests vs Pak at home 2026 summer
3 tests vs SA away 2026 christmas
2 tests vs Bang away 2027 Feb
1 test vs Aus 150th test commemoration

Curtain raiser test for 2027 summer vs small team

Then the 5 test home Ashes in 2027

If Root and Eng can have a competitive away Ashes as player and team then quite likely he will comeback to an English summer with renewed vigor and renew pursuit.

However there are a lot of potholes. NZ is a slippery side in Eng conditions and every summer will not be as flat and dry as 2025.
SA tours also tend to be extreme result wickets whether pace or recently spin oriented and Bangla also tend to prepare dustbowls for SENA teams.

I personally think Root will do reasonably ok at around 50 avg in all these series and decide to end his career in the 2027 home Ashes.

So over the course of 23 tests and approx. 38 inns I expect Root to make anywhere between 1600-2000 runs and around 4-8 centuries. So overall my guess is he will end at 15-15.5k runs and 43-45 x100.
 
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Man, pull out the Obama quotes on Tendulkar! Haha, turned out to be fake like most quotes on Tendulkar outside of India.

Bang average batsman, with a bang average career. Got lucky cos he broke on radio.
 
He is getting closer and closer with each match and if he keeps on batting like he did today against Australia, he will surely get there. He has a few years left in his cricket and with just over 2000 runs to go, he has every chance to get past the great Sachin Tendulkar.
 
pratiktc said:
This has sadly become a thread for trolls and shock jocks aiming to provoke reactions rather than appreciating efforts of two all time great batters.

Whether Root crosses Tendulkar's tally or whether he wins an away Ashes not will not significantly impact either of their legacies which are already rich and glittering.

Further, Root's not having a century is more of a loss for Aussie audiences who have missed the privelege of enjoying a great batter and I hope he gives them this gift on this tour.

Statistically, the chances of Root crossing Tendulkar are fairly reasonable. However 2500 runs is a long journey. Except for rare outliers like Kallis/Sangakkara the dropoff at the end for great batters is almost always abrupt. So Root will likely need another 30 tests atleast.

His next upcoming series are:
5 tests vs Aus away 2025 winter
3 tests vs NZ at home 2026 summer
3 tests vs Pak at home 2026 summer
3 tests vs SA away 2026 christmas
2 tests vs Bang away 2027 Feb
1 test vs Aus 150th test commemoration

Curtain raiser test for 2027 summer vs small team

Then the 5 test home Ashes in 2027

If Root and Eng can have a competitive away Ashes as player and team then quite likely he will comeback to an English summer with renewed vigor and renew pursuit.

However there are a lot of potholes. NZ is a slippery side in Eng conditions and every summer will not be as flat and dry as 2025.
SA tours also tend to be extreme result wickets whether pace or recently spin oriented and Bangla also tend to prepare dustbowls for SENA teams.

I personally think Root will do reasonably ok at around 50 avg in all these series and decide to end his career in the 2027 home Ashes.

So over the course of 23 tests and approx. 38 inns I expect Root to make anywhere between 1600-2000 runs and around 4-8 centuries. So overall my guess is he will end at 15-15.5k runs and 43-45 x100.
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Root will not end his career in 2027. There is no gurantee to it.
 
This test century has asterisk because Australia played with depleted bowling attacks, remembered some 🤡from India :inti along with Pakistani poster's had put asterisk on India series win Australia in 2017-18 when Warner and Smith didn't Played.

:klopp :kp
 
Devadwal said:
This test century has asterisk because Australia played with depleted bowling attacks, remembered some 🤡from India :inti along with Pakistani poster's had put asterisk on India series win Australia in 2017-18 when Warner and Smith didn't Played.

:klopp :kp
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Yes there is a small Astrix in my eyes too.
 
Devadwal said:
This test century has asterisk because Australia played with depleted bowling attacks, remembered some 🤡from India :inti along with Pakistani poster's had put asterisk on India series win Australia in 2017-18 when Warner and Smith didn't Played.

:klopp :kp
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Impeccably bad logic, by this line of thought, none of Tendulkar's hundreds in Australia minus MCG 1998 are valid.

All tons against test standard attacks, are valid, especially a ton where you come in for 5-2 and 50% of the bowling is done by two blokes who average under 17 in these conditions.
 
atreus said:
Impeccably bad logic, by this line of thought, none of Tendulkar's hundreds in Australia minus MCG 1998 are valid.

All tons against test standard attacks, are valid, especially a ton where you come in for 5-2 and 50% of the bowling is done by two blokes who average under 17 in these conditions.
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They are or course all valid.

But let's be honest this Aussie attack is weaker without Pat and Hazelwood.

Hopefully Root can hit a bit score against them too.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
They are or course all valid.

But let's be honest this Aussie attack is weaker without Pat and Hazelwood.

Hopefully Root can hit a bit score against them too.
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Yeah, but it was so weaker than Sachin made 248* at the SCG and they were missing McGrath and Warne, or his hundreds in 2007 when McGrath and Warne had recently retired and Australia was opening the bowling with two guys averaging over 30 with the ball. Regardless, I hope Root also gets one when Cummins returns, I don't think Hazlewood is coming back this series or atleast until Sydney
 
atreus said:
Yeah, but it was so weaker than Sachin made 248* at the SCG and they were missing McGrath and Warne, or his hundreds in 2007 when McGrath and Warne had recently retired and Australia was opening the bowling with two guys averaging over 30 with the ball. Regardless, I hope Root also gets one when Cummins returns, I don't think Hazlewood is coming back this series or atleast until Sydney
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Sachin got many asterix too bro don't worry
 
Rajdeep said:
Why would @Bhaag Viru Bhaag be happy? He is also a Sachin fan. Lets not compare him with notorious @sweep_shot . Brother Viru is one of us...just a touch distracted sometimes.

:kp
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atreus said:
Yeah, but it was so weaker than Sachin made 248* at the SCG and they were missing McGrath and Warne, or his hundreds in 2007 when McGrath and Warne had recently retired and Australia was opening the bowling with two guys averaging over 30 with the ball. Regardless, I hope Root also gets one when Cummins returns, I don't think Hazlewood is coming back this series or atleast until Sydney
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Nah not.really.

In 99 vs McWarne in Aus, SRT finished the test series avg 46. (Player of the series)

In 2001 vs McWarne in India, SRT finished the test series 50 avg.

In 2004 tennis elbow series vs McWarne in India, SRT was injured and didn't play the whole series were SRT finished the test series with an avg of 17... We can forgive him for that, taking on the greatest test team of all time you need both your hands to say the least.

However Rooty boy finally got his 1st hundred against Aus facing a C grade Aus attack without Cummins/Starc, now that is a big asterisk....
 
The Bald Eagle said:
I know pal, deep inside you also want someone to break Sachin record in Red ball too...Just like Kohli


:kp
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Just like Kohli's record didnt count, if and when Root surpass Sachin, it wont be counted as well. Batting in modern era got much easier.

Also Sachin has record in both the formats - red and white ball cricket. It is taking multiple modern day players to break the records set by Sachin alone.

Comparing Sachin with Root is bit like comparing Wasim with Starc. Understood #Pal?

:kp
 
Rajdeep said:
Just like Kohli's record didnt count, if and when Root surpass Sachin, it wont be counted as well. Batting in modern era got much easier.

Also Sachin has record in both the formats - red and white ball cricket. It is taking multiple modern day players to break the records set by Sachin alone.

Comparing Sachin with Root is bit like comparing Wasim with Starc. Understood #Pal?

:kp
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Like Wasim, Sachin will acknowledge Root too...I just hope ECB doesn't force Root into forceful retirement like Jimmy. So you could enjoy that spectacle
 
Romali_rotti said:
Nah not.really.

In 99 vs McWarne in Aus, SRT finished the test series avg 46. (Player of the series)
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Good series, one valid hundred in Australia. ....
Romali_rotti said:
In 2001 vs McWarne in India, SRT finished the test series 50 avg.
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Home series, 2023 Ashes Root averaged 53 against Ace Australian attack.
Romali_rotti said:
In 2004 tennis elbow series vs McWarne in India, SRT was injured and didn't play the whole series were SRT finished the test series with an avg of 17... We can forgive him for that, taking on the greatest test team of all time you need both your hands to say the least..
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Womp Womp, Dude failed.
Romali_rotti said:
However Rooty boy finally got his 1st hundred against Aus facing a C grade Aus attack without Cummins/Starc, now that is a big asterisk....
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Except Starc played and got six wickets.

look, we all know India's education system sucks so you may have struggled to read Starc"s name on the screen but atleast don't embarrass yourself by coming out here and acting like a hotshot eh?
 
atreus said:
look, we all know India's education system sucks so you may have struggled to read Starc"s name on the screen but atleast don't embarrass yourself by coming out here and acting like a hotshot eh?
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I did mention C grade attack with a typo I meant to say without Cummins/Hazelwood, I mentioned this on the game thread.

Starc recieved zero support on the other end so good on Root to cash in with a big asterisk.
 
One of the happiest moments in the history of Pakistani cricket fans today
:root
 
Romali_rotti said:
I did mention C grade attack with a typo I meant to say without Cummins/Hazelwood, I mentioned this on the game thread.
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Better attack than the one Sachin made 5 of his 6 hundreds in Australia against.
Romali_rotti said:
Starc recieved zero support on the other end so good on Root to cash in with a big asterisk.
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Nope, Boland averages 16 in Australia and clapped England in 2021/22 Ashes and India in 2024/25 BGT. Starc averages 16 in pinkball too! so combined that's like 52% of the bowling done by a 16 averaging bowler.
 
Scoring hundred at Gabba in pink ball test against Starc & Boland is definitely creditable. No need to downplay the innings

Like I said before Joe Root needs at least 3-4 tons in Australia to secure his legacy as an ATG

He has 1 allready. Another 2 tons & his place as ATG is well & truly secure
 
NishanKonar said:
Scoring hundred at Gabba in pink ball test against Starc & Boland is definitely creditable. No need to downplay the innings

Like I said before Joe Root needs at least 3-4 tons in Australia to secure his legacy as an ATG

He has 1 allready. Another 2 tons & his place as ATG is well & truly secure
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This is a bit extreme no,

So all the runs and centuries is not enough, a player must have X number of centuries against Australia in Australia?

He is already an ATG. Not many have achieved what he has in test cricket. These things are just helping to cement a legacy that has already been defined.

If Joe Root is not an ATG having achieved all that he has then nobody deserves this title.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
This is a bit extreme no,

So all the runs and centuries is not enough, a player must have X number of centuries against Australia in Australia?

He is already an ATG. Not many have achieved what he has in test cricket. These things are just helping to cement a legacy that has already been defined.

If Joe Root is not an ATG having achieved all that he has then nobody deserves this title.
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ATG are defined by performances against the toughest opponents. Its true for any sport

Ian Botham wud have been greatest allrounder if he had better record against West Indies

This is true for many others.
 
atreus said:
Better attack than the one Sachin made 5 of his 6 hundreds in Australia against.

,...

Nope, Boland averages 16 in Australia and clapped England in 2021/22 Ashes and India in 2024/25 BGT. Starc averages 16 in pinkball too! so combined that's like 52% of
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Cant compare an experienced attack of Brett Lee, Gillespie and Stuart McGill against this bowling attack. Boland has only played a total of 16 matches...

Sorry lad asterisk stays and will stay till Rooty boy hits a 100 in aus vs Hazelwood, Starc and Cummins.

Even Rishabh Pant has a 100 against the above 3 🤡
 
DeadlyVenom said:
This is a bit extreme no,

So all the runs and centuries is not enough, a player must have X number of centuries against Australia in Australia?

He is already an ATG. Not many have achieved what he has in test cricket. These things are just helping to cement a legacy that has already been defined.

If Joe Root is not an ATG having achieved all that he has then nobody deserves this title.
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Root is definitely an ATG due to his run Talley no one would deny he just has a kink in his armour that's all...
 
I do think Root is capable of getting a 100 against Hazlewood, Cummins and Starc all playing though...
 
Romali_rotti said:
Cant an attack of Brett Lee, Gillespie and Stuart McGill against this bowling attack. Boland has only played a total of 16 matches...
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Brett Lee was ***** in Tests, Gillespie was good but nowhere near Pinkball Starc good, Macgill was a spinner so irrelevant in Australia.
Romali_rotti said:
Sorry lad asterisk stays and will stay till Rooty boy hits a 100 in aus vs Hazelwood, Starc and Cummins.
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I know people generally try to imitate their superiors but do you really gotta steal lad too? anyway, Sachin has no valid ton in Australia since he has no hundred in Aus against McGrath, Warne and Gillespie :srt

all three need to play (something out of his control) for his runs to be valid.

also Risabh Pant is a very good player.
 
atreus said:
Brett Lee was ***** in Tests, Gillespie was good but nowhere near Pinkball Starc good, Macgill was a spinner so irrelevant in Australia.

I know people generally try to imitate their superiors but do you really gotta steal lad too? anyway, Sachin has no valid ton in Australia since he has no hundred in Aus against McGrath, Warne and Gillespie :srt

all three need to play (something out of his control) for his runs to be valid.

also Risabh Pant is a very good player.
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So in other words Root's 100 he just scored has a big asterisk next to it..

🤡
 
atreus said:
Brett Lee was ***** in Tests, Gillespie was good but nowhere near Pinkball Starc good, Macgill was a spinner so irrelevant in Australia.

I know people generally try to imitate their superiors but do you really gotta steal lad too? anyway, Sachin has no valid ton in Australia since he has no hundred in Aus against McGrath, Warne and Gillespie :srt

all three need to play (something out of his control) for his runs to be valid.

also Risabh Pant is a very good player.
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Sachin did a lot of stat padding in Sydney

The closet thing to a subcontinent wicket in Australia.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Sachin did a lot of stat padding in Sydney

The closet thing to a subcontinent wicket in Australia.
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I gotta admit SRT is not quite as good as Root when it comes to stat padding, look at what he did against Pakistan on those flattest of phattas...
 
Romali_rotti said:
I gotta admit SRT is not quite as good as Root when it comes to stat padding, look at what he did against Pakistan on those flattest of phattas...
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Root stadpadded against Bumrah too. Beat him to a pulp that Indians forgot he was their GOAT and decided that when it comes to Root only Cummins is the GOAT bowler.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Root stadpadded against Bumrah too. Beat him to a pulp that Indians forgot he was their GOAT and decided that when it comes to Root only Cummins is the GOAT bowler.
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Yeap agreed and stats do agree also, as Cummins didn't play this match Rooty gets his 1st 100 in Aus.

Joe Asterick Root
 
sweep_shot said:
He is less than 2300 runs away now I believe.

Getting closer.
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should take it one step at a time, think he needs about 600 more runs and two centuries to overtake sachins aggreagate and century count against non minnow nations. this will be the first major milestone which pretty much ensures if we are talking about asterisks, then root will be ahead of sach.
:ashwin
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Still a long way to go, Root should move forward full throttle....will provide more opportunities to enjoy meltdown
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ElRaja said:
should take it one step at a time, think he needs about 600 more runs and two centuries to overtake sachins aggreagate and century count against non minnow nations.
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Yup.

If Root plays for 4 more years, I think he should get there.

600 runs per year is doable. England play a lot of Tests.
 
atreus said:
what? his average in Pakistan is lower than his career average.
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I was referring to the legendary series which Root recently had on those flattest of flat phattas in Pakistan where he scored like early 300 in an innings with a world record partnership.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Still a long way to go, Root should move forward full throttle....will provide more opportunities to enjoy meltdown
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I think Root will get the record, Eng will get a few more series against Pakistan in the coming years, also barring Aus there are no quality bowling tandems/pairs around for any other countries along with the flat wickets, it will be a major disappointment if he doesn't break the record having things so easy...
 
Romali_rotti said:
I think Root will get the record, Eng will get a few more series against Pakistan in the coming years, also barring Aus there are no quality bowling tandems/pairs around for any other countries along with the flat wickets, it will be a major disappointment if he doesn't break the record having things so easy...
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Actually, Root loves India and Pakistan....his love affair with PCT has ended since Aaqib ball...I think we should give special concession to Root so he could break the record in record time. I agree with you mate. Actually, it's Aaqib ball and rank turners what he hates the most
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Actually, Root loves India and Pakistan....his love affair with PCT has ended since Aaqib ball...I think we should give special concession to Root so he could break the record in record time. I agree with you mate. Actually, it's Aaqib ball and rank turners what he hates the most
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Well his ideal wickets are the flat ones that offer nothing to the bowlers. The minute the wicket offered something we saw Sajid Khan tie knots around him the following test match: from a double 100 one game to looking like deer in headlights the next.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Well his ideal wickets are the flat ones that offer nothing to the bowlers. The minute the wicket offered something we saw Sajid Khan tie knots around him the following test match: from a double 100 one game to looking like deer in headlights the next.
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But I saw his innings today, he really has improved a lot of late. And deserves to be at the top in Tests run tally
 
Does a century against a bowling attack comprising of Neser, Doggett and Green count?

No Cumminns, Hazelwood or Lyon.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Like Wasim, Sachin will acknowledge Root too...I just hope ECB doesn't force Root into forceful retirement like Jimmy. So you could enjoy that spectacle
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Naa sachin is a petty man.

He always says that his records should only be broken by indians only.

Thats why outside of india, many of us look down on him. His lack of education is visible with his dumb statements
 
Romali_rotti said:
Damn didn't realise Yasir Shah had a 100 before the Root, that's definitely a bad look for Root.

🤕
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If root surpasses sachin in runs or centuries or whatever, according to the record books he'd be no 1 on the list.

Whining and crying wont help 👺
 
sweep_shot said:
Yup.

If Root plays for 4 more years, I think he should get there.

600 runs per year is doable. England play a lot of Tests.
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It's inevitable that root will surpass Sachin. Too much test cricket is coming up and the runs are now less then 2300.

Easy peasy
 
Major said:
Naa sachin is a petty man.

He always says that his records should only be broken by indians only.

Thats why outside of india, many of us look down on him. His lack of education is visible with his dumb statements
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He said he would be happy if his records were broken by Indians. He never said it "should" be broken only by Indians
 
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