“COVID-19 cases not traced back to mosques” - Should Imran Khan get away with blatant lies?

[Mamoon]

It’s been nearly 3 months since the first positive case was recorded in Pakistan, and Imran Khan’s mismanagement and erratic leadership has led him to the point where now he has to blatantly lie and make things up because he knows that his blind followers will believe whatever he says.

Theoretically, the only way you can determine the number of cases from mosques is if your capacity of tests per day is in the millions, and every single individual that enters a mosque is record in a database and tested periodically.

Can that happen in Pakistan? Absolutely and obviously not, so on what basis is Imran stating that congregational prayers have played no role in the spread of the virus? Since he doesn’t have the guts to take on the mullahs, is he now going to resort to lies?

Furthermore, his statement that SOPs are being followed in mosques is complete fabrication as well, and these lies are only aimed at overseas PTI supporters who would believe him if he stated that the earth is flat.

This pandemic has been the biggest test of Imran’s competency and he has nothing to show for except mismanagement, poor leadership, lies and propagation of fake news.

He should not be allowed to get away with this. He needs to explain on what grounds he explicitly stated that no cases have been traced to mosques.

He will no doubt take a customary U-turn and make something up to defend himself, but the goal is to make him and his blind followers (who swoon sideways when he says something) realize that when the so-called leader of the country blatantly lies and make things up, there will be repercussions.

 

[Romali_rotti]

To be fair, no 3rd world country is equipped to handle this. I don't believe any leader could have avoided disaster regardless of how effective they handled the situation. The result would have been delaying the inevitable.

 

[Giannis]

Should you log off and go sleep? Yessir.

 

[umerz]

To be fair, no 3rd world country is equipped to handle this. I don't believe any leader could have avoided disaster regardless of how effective they handled the situation. The result would have been delaying the inevitable.

Couldn't agree more. If you continue the lockdown people will die of hunger and if you discontinue the lockdown people in third world countries don't follow the SOPs which results in increase of cases and eventually increase in number of deaths

 

[Bewal Express]

It’s been nearly 3 months since the first positive case was recorded in Pakistan, and Imran Khan’s mismanagement and erratic leadership has led him to the point where now he has to blatantly lie and make things up because he knows that his blind followers will believe whatever he says.

Theoretically, the only way you can determine the number of cases from mosques is if your capacity of tests per day is in the millions, and every single individual that enters a mosque is record in a database and tested periodically.

Can that happen in Pakistan? Absolutely and obviously not, so on what basis is Imran stating that congregational prayers have played no role in the spread of the virus? Since he doesn’t have the guts to take on the mullahs, is he now going to resort to lies?

Furthermore, his statement that SOPs are being followed in mosques is complete fabrication as well, and these lies are only aimed at overseas PTI supporters who would believe him if he stated that the earth is flat.

This pandemic has been the biggest test of Imran’s competency and he has nothing to show for except mismanagement, poor leadership, lies and propagation of fake news.

He should not be allowed to get away with this. He needs to explain on what grounds he explicitly stated that no cases have been traced to mosques.

He will no doubt take a customary U-turn and make something up to defend himself, but the goal is to make him and his blind followers (who swoon sideways when he says something) realize that when the so-called leader of the country blatantly lies and make things up, there will be repercussions.

Lets be honest, nobody cares what you say because everything you have said up to this point is a lie, and
even when you do have a point, nobody believes you. And as a supporter of the Sharifs and Zardaris calling anyone a liar is a bit rich.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Let's analyse the question here.

"Should Imran get away with blatant lies?"
The above is an opinion of a poster. This is not proven and not a fact. Should Imran get away with lies in general, then answer is no he like others should be accountable.

"Should Nawaz get away with loot and corruption?"
The above is not an opinion, the above is a decision from the Supreme court of Pakistan so we can say that Nawaz was corrupt and did loot the country as a fact. Should he get away with it? Like others he should be held accountable for these actions.

You can decide on the severity of the points mentioned above and how each should be accountable.

 

[Jin Chacha]

It seems everyone is sidestepping the question asked in the OP which is about a specific statement and instead starting a generic debate about corruption, zardaris and shareefs. While I dont doubt Imran Khan’s intentions, it is hard to deny that some of the statements he has made regarding COVID including the one mentioned by OP are not particularly smart. I really feel that he truly believes in the things he says but sometimes he does come across as a bit naïve and disconnected with the situation on ground.

 

[Syed1]

Awkward moment when OP is the biggest liar in PP history. Pot calling kettle black.

 

[King-Misbah]

So the people whose daily task is to justify the lies of the corrupt politicians is posting about Imran Khans lies lol

 

[Mamoon]

It seems everyone is sidestepping the question asked in the OP which is about a specific statement and instead starting a generic debate about corruption, zardaris and shareefs. While I dont doubt Imran Khan’s intentions, it is hard to deny that some of the statements he has made regarding COVID including the one mentioned by OP are not particularly smart. I really feel that he truly believes in the things he says but sometimes he does come across as a bit naïve and disconnected with the situation on ground.

They are sidestepping the question because they are enslaved by their devotion to Imran Khan.

This is what cult-mentality does to you, so they have no choice but to resort to their usual deflection by referencing the corruption of PMLN and PPP which has nothing to do with the point in hand.

This pandemic has brought the worst out of Imran Khan and his loyalists are struggling to defend him.

From calling COVID a “normal flu” for a long time in spite of all the contrary evidence and now making a sweeping statement that no cases have been traced to mosques, it is pretty clear that he has no idea what he is talking about and continues to make unsubstantiated and irresponsible statements.

 

[Mamoon]

Let's analyse the question here.

"Should Imran get away with blatant lies?"
The above is an opinion of a poster. This is not proven and not a fact. Should Imran get away with lies in general, then answer is no he like others should be accountable.

"Should Nawaz get away with loot and corruption?"
The above is not an opinion, the above is a decision from the Supreme court of Pakistan so we can say that Nawaz was corrupt and did loot the country as a fact. Should he get away with it? Like others he should be held accountable for these actions.

You can decide on the severity of the points mentioned above and how each should be accountable.

Firstly, this thread has nothing to do with Nawaz, but I understand that PTI cult-members cannot help themselves. After all, they have been programmed and brainwashed into defending Imran no matter what.

Secondly, Nawaz has escaped justice and is now chilling in London only because Imran didn’t have a spine.

PTI appointed doctors examined Nawaz in jail and declared that he needed to be shifted to a hospital for better treatment.

Nawaz was either genuinely ill or PTI appointed some clowns in white coats who got conned by an old man and had no idea what they were doing.

So if Nawaz is not in jail now, it is no one but PTI’s fault.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Firstly, this thread has nothing to do with Nawaz, but I understand that PTI cult-members cannot help themselves. After all, they have been programmed and brainwashed into defending Imran no matter what.

Secondly, Nawaz has escaped justice and is now chilling in London only because Imran didn’t have a spine.

PTI appointed doctors examined Nawaz in jail and declared that he needed to be shifted to a hospital for better treatment.

Nawaz was either genuinely ill or PTI appointed some clowns in white coats who got conned by an old man and had no idea what they were doing.

So if Nawaz is not in jail now, it is no one but PTI’s fault.

This thread is about facts vs opinion. If Imran's lies can be factually proven then he should be held accountable to the severity of the lies perpetuated.

 

[saeedhk]

Imran has time and again shown that he crumbles under pressure from extremists elements. He has totally failed to show any spine or firmness when dealing with such elements. He is a meek, naive and poor leader.

Be it Asia Bibi’s release or Atif Mian appointment or Eid moon-sighting or shutting down mosques due to COVID-19, he has ALWAYS caved in. If he is not willing to take strong decisions, he should hang his boots.

It was easy for him to shout his lungs out sitting on top of a shipping container, but now when the time has come to rise to the ocassion , he has gone missing. Well, he has been mostly missing since he came to power.

Now, he is saying no worshippers spread COVID-19. Biggest lie ever!

 

[Mamoon]

This thread is about facts vs opinion. If Imran's lies can be factually proven then he should be held accountable to the severity of the lies perpetuated.

Are you suggesting that of the 126k cases in the country, not a single person in any mosque in the country was infected or passed the infection to someone else?

Does this sound like a reasonable or credible argument to you on Imran’s part to the extent that you require factual proof?

 

[Bewal Express]

Firstly, this thread has nothing to do with Nawaz, but I understand that PTI cult-members cannot help themselves. After all, they have been programmed and brainwashed into defending Imran no matter what.

Secondly, Nawaz has escaped justice and is now chilling in London only because Imran didn’t have a spine.

PTI appointed doctors examined Nawaz in jail and declared that he needed to be shifted to a hospital for better treatment.

Nawaz was either genuinely ill or PTI appointed some clowns in white coats who got conned by an old man and had no idea what they were doing.

So if Nawaz is not in jail now, it is no one but PTI’s fault.

Are you suggesting that of the 126k cases in the country, not a single person in any mosque in the country was infected or passed the infection to someone else?

Does this sound like a reasonable or credible argument to you on Imran’s part to the extent that you require factual proof?

What you want to hear is that IK some terrible failure, he isnt. Unlike you badniyaati losers who follow family businesses as some of ghulami duty, we see things from a wider perspective, they say travel( and reading) broadens the mind, well its a shame that you havent or you didnt take any lessons from your travel. You have given up on PK, we havent, your hope is to join( or in your case already a beneficiary) the corrupt system and make money, we have no have no such desire. We send back billions in remittances, those remittances have helped the country from defaulting.
NS,AZ and the corrupt have everything to do with, they created the system that you are trying to protect. I dare you tell me where you commented on the mafias, and how they can be dealt with, i dare you tell me where you commented on the $64bn loans taken and what happened to the money, or the IPPs and the loss of $5bn+, or the GIDC, or the TTs, or the propertys that your crooks have built with PK govt money.
As far as the virus is concerned, it will spread until people have the desire to stay safe. IK cannot force people to be sensible, i wouldnt have opened Mosques, but by the same score, people were not told to go to Mosques and were warned about the dangers. India had no Mosques opened and the cases increasing by the day, Brazil doesnt have any mosques and the cases are going up every day.

 

[Bewal Express]

Firstly, this thread has nothing to do with Nawaz, but I understand that PTI cult-members cannot help themselves. After all, they have been programmed and brainwashed into defending Imran no matter what.

Secondly, Nawaz has escaped justice and is now chilling in London only because Imran didn’t have a spine.

PTI appointed doctors examined Nawaz in jail and declared that he needed to be shifted to a hospital for better treatment.

Nawaz was either genuinely ill or PTI appointed some clowns in white coats who got conned by an old man and had no idea what they were doing.

So if Nawaz is not in jail now, it is no one but PTI’s fault.

But you said he should be allowed to go abroad as the ex PM of the country needs to be given special treatment. When you tell so many lies, you forget what you say!

 

[Sir-fraz]

This is hilarious. I lost faith in imran and pti a long time ago. Pti has become a cult where u cant even discuss imrans mistakes. He is some god like figure to them.

Nothing new because these guys follow their religion like a cult. And before it was either ppp or plnm or whatever party , each one has cult followers.

 

[Savak]

This is hilarious. I lost faith in imran and pti a long time ago. Pti has become a cult where u cant even discuss imrans mistakes. He is some god like figure to them.

Nothing new because these guys follow their religion like a cult. And before it was either ppp or plnm or whatever party , each one has cult followers.

The problem is not discussing Imran's mistakes, the problem is against those people who habitually target Imran and the PTI who did nothing but defend the PML-N and PPP during their respective rules. You can see for yourself right now where the Cynthia Ritchie case is being treated as an ISI, Pak army conspiracy

 

[Savak]

116,000 deaths in the US, 42,000 deaths in the UK, 8,000 deaths in Canada, countries with massive fiscal space and health care facilities in order to provide for their population and cater to their health needs, whereas Pakistan has 1,735 deaths inspite of having ten times the population of the UK and Canada but no, evil incompetent corrupt Imran.

I have to hand it to the opposition, they are following Hitler's playbook to the tilt, ruthlessly and tirelessly keep up the criticism and rhetoric where eventually a person who hears it daily in the news, talk shows, newspapers, online even without thinking authomatically believes it. If there is one thing among the others i blame the PTI govt for, they have been very passive and reactive in dealing with the opposition, paid anchor and lifafa journalist onslaught against them.

 

[the Great Khan]

But you said he should be allowed to go abroad as the ex PM of the country needs to be given special treatment. When you tell so many lies, you forget what you say!

wait hasnt the lockdown next door messed with his mind??

 

[the Great Khan]

This is hilarious. I lost faith in imran and pti a long time ago. Pti has become a cult where u cant even discuss imrans mistakes. He is some god like figure to them.

Nothing new because these guys follow their religion like a cult. And before it was either ppp or plnm or whatever party , each one has cult followers.

there are two cults in Pakistan. One is the PMLN patwari cult who think nawaz is a pir and the other one worships Bhutto. End of. They can rape pillage to their hearts content but will always come out looking great. For the first time we have a pm trying to do the right thing and they want the rapists back.

I'll tell you what, those **** are never coming back. Ever.

Finally to the covid situation, come here in the uk where they are bury Muslims in mass graves and then talk. And ignore the fake trollers on here.

Just imagine if ganja was in charge on the 26th of feb 2019. Your posts would have been very different. imagine if showbaaz covid was in charge now..the man has a brain the size of a pea..and is now infected..

IK is the best chance Pakistan has in the current situation. Bilawal is busy with david james, and the sharifs just want their stolen cash..so sit down..

 

[Bewal Express]

This is hilarious. I lost faith in imran and pti a long time ago. Pti has become a cult where u cant even discuss imrans mistakes. He is some god like figure to them.

Nothing new because these guys follow their religion like a cult. And before it was either ppp or plnm or whatever party , each one has cult followers.

The PTI and IK has and will mistakes but the criticism from ghulams of the evil crooked families will never get a free ride from me.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Only way for Imran to "take on the mullahs" is to invite Modi to bring his tanks into Pakistan and demolish the buildings used as mosques, and convert them into temples used for worship as Modi would see fit. This would bring an end to bickering between Pakistan and India, and in one fell swoop delight Indians and patriots like the OP.

Those who think Mamoon is a big supporter of PPP or Sharif clan are wrong, his loyalties lie further east to the 56" titan of the Ganges.