A humiliating defeat at home for India

[Mobashir]

If Pakistan lost a home test against this english team and that too in that fashion, I will be completely ashamed.

I mean, this England team is very very weak in every department of the game. You can't loose a test in Asia to Dominic Bess-Jack Leach, read the names again. This is probably the worst spin bowling pair of the decade to tour an asian country.

Then you have a top order of : Burns, Sibley, Lawrence. I really like English cricket but sorry, this is not a top order to play test cricket in Asia. Again, it's hand down the worst top three sent by any SENA team over the last decade.

No need to even talk about Archer and Pope playing their first asian test, Buttler not being good against spin, Stokes playing competitive cricket after 6 months etc...

That is the most humiliating home defeat of recent times.

Well done team India,
Thanks again.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Let me put an asterisk on this England win. We were missing Jadeja and Shami here.

 

[szrana007]

Pakistan last lost a home test to England in 2000, so thats 21 years ago.

 

[Mobashir]

Let me put an asterisk on this England win. We were missing Jadeja and Shami here.

Well the asterisk is not a thing to joke about, some fellow posters get very serious about it. It deserves a thread and debate on it's own.


But really, a home team being outplayed in this fashion against a weak opposition is humiliating.

 

[Dingolfy]

If Pakistan lost a home test against this english team and that too in that fashion, I will be completely ashamed.

I mean, this England team is very very weak in every department of the game. You can't loose a test in Asia to Dominic Bess-Jack Leach, read the names again. This is probably the worst spin bowling pair of the decade to tour an asian country.

Then you have a top order of : Burns, Sibley, Lawrence. I really like English cricket but sorry, this is not a top order to play test cricket in Asia. Again, it's hand down the worst top three sent by any SENA team over the last decade.

No need to even talk about Archer and Pope playing their first asian test, Buttler not being good against spin, Stokes playing competitive cricket after 6 months etc...

That is the most humiliating home defeat of recent times.

Well done team India,
Thanks again.

Didnt Srilanka whitewash Pakistan in UAE some 4 years back? I would say that would be more humiliating than this.

 

[Madplayer]

I would agree with the spinners point.

Absolutely criminal to lose so many wickets to these no name spinners.

 

[Mobashir]

Pakistan last lost a home test to England in 2000, so thats 21 years ago.

Yeah there are many more humiliations in history by every team, including Pakistan.
But in recent years, were the home advantage has grown, can't remember anything worst than this.

 

[Bewal Express]

Let me put an asterisk on this England win. We were missing Jadeja and Shami here.

Jadeja yes, Shami no.

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

Yes true this is the most humiliating defeat, and losing 0-2 against Sri Lanka at home isn’t

 

[Thomaskutty]

Chalo .. we got zapped hard ... atleast people will stop using the 'they have 1 billion people so we can't beat them' excuse that i've been hearing non-stop for the last 2 weeks since the Gabba test. At the end of the day , its 11 vs 11 on the field. :

 

[Ab Fan]

This reminds me of people going all guns against India after Adelaide loss and then we all know what happened.

Anyways, few losses at home here and there don't really matter, more so if you can beat Australia in Australia two out of two occasions.

 

[Madplayer]

Didnt Srilanka whitewash Pakistan in UAE some 4 years back? I would say that would be more humiliating than this.

You'd expect srilankan spinner to perform well in those conditions.

Who are bess and leach? Lol

 

[OldWarHorse]

We deserved it. Celebrations running upto a week or so post returning from OZ were beyond a joke. Coaches patting their backs, players probably had a memoir written already in their minds. Probably felt just turning up would have been enough.

We have got our backsides handed to us by England because they came well planned and were serious about this tour, ours were still basking in glory. Only now will we wake up.

 

[szrana007]

Yeah there are many more humiliations in history by every team, including Pakistan.
But in recent years, were the home advantage has grown, can't remember anything worst than this.

England has only won 2 away tests vs Pakistan, while this is there 14th test match victory in India. England just loves playing in India

 

[Mamoon]

Joe Root is the main difference. He is invincible at the moment and is displaying what you can call batting perfection.

In this zone, it is impossible to get him out unless he completely loses focus or the pitch does something completely unexpected.

Any bowling attack will struggle against him in this form.

Australia losing to Indian D at home with their full team including Smith was what you call humiliating.

Pakistan losing to Sri Lanka in UAE is what you call humiliating.

 

[Mobashir]

Didnt Srilanka whitewash Pakistan in UAE some 4 years back? I would say that would be more humiliating than this.

I completely understand your point. But here I am talking about the margin of the defeat and being completely outplayed. The two tests in 17' were pretty close between two average sides (wins by 21 runs and 60 odd)

 

[szrana007]

This reminds me of people going all guns against India after Adelaide loss and then we all know what happened.

Anyways, few losses at home here and there don't really matter, more so if you can beat Australia in Australia two out of two occasions.

Nothing humiliating about this bro, but I seriously believe that England are well on their way to repeat their 2012/13 heroics in India.

 

[Varun]

Hope we can come back and demolish them, similar to our series win after Australia won in Pune the last time they came.

 

[saeed5646]

Didnt Srilanka whitewash Pakistan in UAE some 4 years back? I would say that would be more humiliating than this.

It is even more humiliating when weak side like pak draw 2 test series in eng in 4 year(while smashing them in uae). on the other hand india is getting smash by eng be it England or india

 

[szrana007]

Joe Root is the main difference. He is invincible at the moment and is displaying what you can call batting perfection.

In this zone, it is impossible to get him out unless he completely loses focus or the pitch does something completely unexpected.

Any bowling attack will struggle against him in this form.

Australia losing to Indian D at home with their full team including Smith was what you call humiliating.

Pakistan losing to Sri Lanka in UAE is what you call humiliating.

England last won an away test vs Pakistan in 2000, but since then, they have won 4 tests in India.

 

[Mobashir]

Joe Root is the main difference. He is invincible at the moment and is displaying what you can call batting perfection.

In this zone, it is impossible to get him out unless he completely loses focus or the pitch does something completely unexpected.

Any bowling attack will struggle against him in this form.

Australia losing to Indian D at home with their full team including Smith was what you call humiliating.

Pakistan losing to Sri Lanka in UAE is what you call humiliating.

Already talked about Sri Lanka Pakistan.

India winning against australia at the gabba was pretty humiliating but was a close contest. Being outplayed in the manner, did it happen anywhere recently?

Agree on Root, he is a special player and showing it to the world. So much nonsense about him being finished, the conversion rate etc.

As you are an expert you may give us some insight on loosing a test to Dominic-Jack?
Also about this top order of Burns-Sibley-Lawrence batting in Asia.

 

[Mamoon]

England last won an away test vs Pakistan in 2000, but since then, they have won 4 tests in India.

That is because they played in UAE in the 2010s not Pakistan. They will fare much better in Pakistan because their bowlers will do better than they did in UAE.

India will not lose to England in UAE either.

 

[Mobashir]

That is because they played in UAE in the 2010s not Pakistan. They will fare much better in Pakistan because their bowlers will do better than they did in UAE.

India will not lose to England in UAE either.

Thanks for the "would happen and would not happens". We saw some of it in the Pak vs SA tests.

 

[szrana007]

That is because they played in UAE in the 2010s not Pakistan. They will fare much better in Pakistan because their bowlers will do better than they did in UAE.

India will not lose to England in UAE either.

Ashes winning English side under Michael Vaughan was thoroughly thumped in Pakistan as well in 2005. While in the next series England drew in India 1-1 in 2006.

 

[Mamoon]

Already talked about Sri Lanka Pakistan.

India winning against australia at the gabba was pretty humiliating but was a close contest. Being outplayed in the manner, did it happen anywhere recently?

Agree on Root, he is a special player and showing it to the world. So much nonsense about him being finished, the conversion rate etc.

As you are an expert you may give us some insight on loosing a test to Dominic-Jack?
Also about this top order of Burns-Sibley-Lawrence batting in Asia.

Test cricket is all about scoreboard pressure. When you put 500+ on the board, even average spinners can make impact. This match was lost when England batted for two days.

The absence of Jadeja hurt India big time and Root completely tamed Ashwin.

The Indian batting is not to be blamed for this defeat. In fact, no one is. The focus should be on how well England played, rather than how India did.

Kohli’s India is the GOAT Asian Test team. They have nothing to prove to anymore. However, that doesn’t mean they cannot lose.

The focus should be on England right now not India.

 

[Mobashir]

Ashes winning English side under Michael Vaughan was thoroughly thumped in Pakistan as well in 2005. While in the next series England drew in India 1-1 in 2006.

His only goal is to derail the thread.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Incredible and ruthless performance by team England. This 3fer by Jimmy is worth more than many of his 5fers. Truly a match winning spell. So credit to England for winning.


If it were Pakistan, Kohli the captain and that clueless coach would be blasted to resignation.

In an era when "legend" batsmen can't defend a straight one from a slow left armer even if you appoint a floodlight or a cow captain, India should easily win. Horror show from Nadeem and Washington.
India terribly missed Jadeja's darts, fielding and batting.

BTW, I don't understand why Kuldeep is out of playing XI. Especially against likes of Nadeem/Washington Clueless captain and team coach

 

[Mamoon]

Ashes winning English side under Michael Vaughan was thoroughly thumped in Pakistan as well in 2005. While in the next series England drew in India 1-1 in 2006.

Pakistan was a very good Test side under Inzamam and Woolmer. What is the point of mentioning them? How many of the players from that Pakistan mad England team are playing today?

Anderson is the only left from that period.

 

[Mamoon]

Thanks for the "would happen and would not happens". We saw some of it in the Pak vs SA tests.

Yes because current and England and South African teams are evenly matched.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

His only goal is to derail the thread.

This is his coping mechanism. Just ignore him

 

[iiqbal]

Most of indian recent victory are link with IPL contract , Same thing seen in Australia , They allowed India to Win Matches. Root don't Play IPL and I think he never paly IPL.

 

[ssuhaide]

This is a 4 test series. A lot of cricket to be played. I would expect an Indian bounceback. Great for the series that England have struck first blood. India have shown resilience and toughness before especially after 36 all out so expect they will compete better in the remaining series. England are becoming a juggernaught though, winning away from home a lot more than they used to.

 

[ethan hunt]

England completely dominated India as if this was in Trent bridge.
This must hurt the Indians eyeing revenge for the torturous tours to England.

 

[szrana007]

Pakistan was a very good Test side under Inzamam and Woolmer. What is the point of mentioning them? How many of the players from that Pakistan mad England team are playing today?

Anderson is the only left from that period.

Pont is that England do much better against India away than against Pakistan. England have only won 2 tests vs Pakistan away, while in India, this is their 14th test match victory.

 

[Mamoon]

Pont is that England do much better against India away than against Pakistan. England have only won 2 tests vs Pakistan away, while in India, this is their 14th test match victory.

So what do we do with this information?

And what do you think will happen if India decides to play Pakistan in Test cricket today?

 

[CricketCartoons]

India has the habit of not turning up when the opponents are pedestrian.

 

[Mamoon]

I am glad Pakistani fans have finally found their voice after their celebrations in Adelaide blew in their faces.

The last few weeks was hell for them. This win by England and the whitewash of South Africa has raised their spirits again.

 

[szrana007]

So what do we do with this information?

And what do you think will happen if India decides to play Pakistan in Test cricket today?

India will be favorites against Pakistan, but England will find it tough to beat Pakistan as they have always struggled against Pakistan.

 

[Mamoon]

As long Pakistan remains miles below India in all formats, we should tone down a bit.

No point in criticizing India unless we manage to reach their level first. Unfortunately, we don’t have the talent, skill and mentality to do so.

Leave it to Pakistani fans to throw stones at India from their mid-table ranking.

 

[iiqbal]

If Pakistan lost a home test against this english team and that too in that fashion, I will be completely ashamed.

I mean, this England team is very very weak in every department of the game. You can't loose a test in Asia to Dominic Bess-Jack Leach, read the names again. This is probably the worst spin bowling pair of the decade to tour an asian country.

Then you have a top order of : Burns, Sibley, Lawrence. I really like English cricket but sorry, this is not a top order to play test cricket in Asia. Again, it's hand down the worst top three sent by any SENA team over the last decade.

No need to even talk about Archer and Pope playing their first asian test, Buttler not being good against spin, Stokes playing competitive cricket after 6 months etc...

That is the most humiliating home defeat of recent times.

Well done team India,
Thanks again.

Yes it is , As subcontinent team never lost test match from England team.

 

[James]

England have won six consecutive Test matches away from home and won both their home series in the summer just gone.

Perhaps it’s actually England who are a bit underrated as a team. Including by me.

 

[szrana007]

England have won six consecutive Test matches away from home and won both their home series in the summer just gone.

Perhaps it’s actually England who are a bit underrated as a team. Including by me.

England are a good side but this same English team will be thrashed in Australia later this year.

 

[jiduguravindra]

Nothing is humiliating if lost one test match, it happens for every team. India also won one off tests in eng, sa last time they tour, is that make them humiliate. If india loss the series like aus did then it will be humiliation.

 

[James]

England are a good side but this same English team will be thrashed in Australia later this year.

Maybe. Maybe not. But given what has happened in Test cricket recently with Australia / India / England / Bangladesh / West Indies, I hardly think this is the appropriate season to be making such confident predictions and absolutist statements!

 

[Bilal_103]

How are you gonna let Bess and Leach own you in your own home?

 

[jiduguravindra]

England have won six consecutive Test matches away from home and won both their home series in the summer just gone.

Perhaps it’s actually England who are a bit underrated as a team. Including by me.

Five of them against sl you have to consider that as well. Sl is below avg team.

 

[James]

Five of them against sl you have to consider that as well. Sl is below avg team.

Nope. 1 against India in India, 2 against Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka, 3 against South Africa in South Africa. There is really no legitimate way to play down this achievement (for once!)

 

[lahoriyah1234]

India was being cocky and overconfidence and they deserve this. We all know India in nature becomes overconfident and lose their way most of the times, WC 2019 Semi Final is a big example. Now they were over the moon over a victory in Australia, they were being welcomed home like they won a WC.

Now they are back to earth, now after this loss they will go back to drawing boards again and may be if they are smart dont prepare such pitches again. I think India is better of with supporting pitches as they do have a good fast bowling attack, why not used it.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

Pakistan loss against Srl in UAE was because of Mickey Arthur rubbish selection of not playing another spinner. But we everyone saw what we did to them at home recently.

 

[jiduguravindra]

Nope. 1 against India in India, 2 against Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka, 3 against South Africa in South Africa. There is really no legitimate way to play down this achievement (for once!)

Root won six consecutive test matches in asia and five of them are against sl. Iam referring to this stat.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Need to regroup. Should chalk out specific plans to tie down Root and we should be more attacking against their spinners. FGS, win the damn toss skipper!

Congrats England, well deserved victory. Hope we can bounce back... we need to win 2-1 for a place in WTC finals I guess.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

Need to regroup. Should chalk out specific plans to tie down Root and we should be more attacking against their spinners. FGS, win the damn toss skipper!

Congrats England, well deserved victory. Hope we can bounce back... we need to win 2-1 for a place in WTC finals I guess.

I am puzzled here why india dont go for supporting wickets for their fast bowlers, they have probably the best fast bowlers at the moment, why go for spin when you have such a good batting unit as well. Dont understand?

 

[Rajdeep]

There is nothing humiliation about it...this term is used very losely here. In sport, one team wins and another one loses. England played better cricket and hence they won. Nothing more and nothing less about it. People here expect India to win every match they play...else it becomes a humiliation. The desperation level went so high during Australia tour that people were opening threads just after one session how 'India getting humbled in Sydney'

This looks like another one of those desperate threads because if every loss becomes humiliation, there wont be a Pakistani fan left to begin with....lol.

36 all out in Adelaide was a humiliation, Manchester loss by Pakistan team was a humiliation, Bangladesh losing this recent test was a humiliation.

This is just a normal loss where other team played better cricket.

 

[Ahmed216]

Test cricket is all about scoreboard pressure. When you put 500+ on the board, even average spinners can make impact. This match was lost when England batted for two days.

The absence of Jadeja hurt India big time and Root completely tamed Ashwin.

The Indian batting is not to be blamed for this defeat. In fact, no one is. The focus should be on how well England played, rather than how India did.

Kohli’s India is the GOAT Asian Test team. They have nothing to prove to anymore. However, that doesn’t mean they cannot lose.

The focus should be on England right now not India.

Now the challenge for England is to be prepared for dustbowls. Like mumbai 2004 when India lost series against Aus. Or what Saffers had to face in a series 3-4 years ago when after the thrashings abroad Shastri n kohli decided to play cricket on pitches that looked like wrestling rings

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

I am puzzled here why india dont go for supporting wickets for their fast bowlers, they have probably the best fast bowlers at the moment, why go for spin when you have such a good batting unit as well. Dont understand?

Chennai pitch/ conditions does not support pace bowling. It can only support reverse after a point. Their spinners out bowled ours which is sad. We need at least a container if not a wicket taker as 2nd spinning option. Nadeem failed in this test to do both.

 

[szrana007]

Root won six consecutive test matches in asia and five of them are against sl. Iam referring to this stat.

SL is not an easy side to beat in SL. Aus were whitewashed 3-0 in SL in 2016 and SA were whitewashed 2-0 in SL in 2018. So winning 5 tests on the trot in SL is a great achievement for England.

 

[Robert]

If Pakistan lost a home test against this english team and that too in that fashion, I will be completely ashamed.

I mean, this England team is very very weak in every department of the game. You can't loose a test in Asia to Dominic Bess-Jack Leach, read the names again. This is probably the worst spin bowling pair of the decade to tour an asian country.

Then you have a top order of : Burns, Sibley, Lawrence. I really like English cricket but sorry, this is not a top order to play test cricket in Asia. Again, it's hand down the worst top three sent by any SENA team over the last decade.

No need to even talk about Archer and Pope playing their first asian test, Buttler not being good against spin, Stokes playing competitive cricket after 6 months etc...

That is the most humiliating home defeat of recent times.

Well done team India,
Thanks again.

You seriously underrate England.

Their openers have two centuries each in not many tests played. Lawrence is new so I don’t know how you can know enough to disparage him. Leach has been effective everywhere he has bowled. Bess is a tyro but has obviously got something - the one he got Kohli with was as good as anything Swann bowled. If Buttler can’t play spin I would query you on how he scored his test match 150 against Yasir in one match and got England to the line with 80 in another when they looked gone.

Trying praising instead of running everyone down.

 

[KingKhan12]

As long Pakistan remains miles below India in all formats, we should tone down a bit.

No point in criticizing India unless we manage to reach their level first. Unfortunately, we don’t have the talent, skill and mentality to do so.

Leave it to Pakistani fans to throw stones at India from their mid-table ranking.[/QUOTE.
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[szrana007]

You seriously underrate England.

Their openers have two centuries each in not many tests played. Lawrence is new so I don’t know how you can know enough to disparage him. Leach has been effective everywhere he has bowled. Bess is a tyro but has obviously got something - the one he got Kohli with was as good as anything Swann bowled. If Buttler can’t play spin I would query you on how he scored his test match 150 against Yasir in one match and got England to the line with 80 in another when they looked gone.

Trying praising instead of running everyone down.

Coming from a Pakistani fan its understandable why he underrates England

 

[Dingolfy]

Now the challenge for England is to be prepared for dustbowls. Like mumbai 2004 when India lost series against Aus. Or what Saffers had to face in a series 3-4 years ago when after the thrashings abroad Shastri n kohli decided to play cricket on pitches that looked like wrestling rings

What if India gets to bat second again on those dust bowls? It would be a repeat of this and Pune 2017. In Mumbai 2004 and Saffers series, we got lucky with the tosses.

 

[Rajdeep]

Let me put an asterisk on this England win. We were missing Jadeja and Shami here.

There are no asterisk as we were playing at home. India should have won this test match but simply got outplayed by a better team. What worked in Englands favour is the tour to SL where they got to play 2 test matches in proper spin conditions. India on the other hand has not played in these (spin friendly) conditions since 2019. So they struggled against Bess and Leach. I fully expect our boys to come back strong from next test.

 

[Runner Up]

Give them as many chances as you can so they can get used to playing in Asian conditions.

 

[Runner Up]

Give them as many chances as you can so they can get used to playing in Asian conditions.

* In IPL

 

[gazza619]

I dont agree on your analysis on Bess. He is actually a quality bowler.

To be fair to India, their guys need a break. You cant be down under for 4 months, then come back home and straight away play a series against a quality side. Extremely poor planning by BCCI.

 

[Dingolfy]

You'd expect srilankan spinner to perform well in those conditions.

Who are bess and leach? Lol

Who was Michael Clarke who ran through way better spin players in Mumbai in 2004? Or Jason Krejza who took 12 wickets in Nagpur in 2008? Many average and part-time spinners have made merry on deteriorating Indian pitches and Bess and Leach won’t be the last.

But the Srilankan team who whitewashed Pakistan then was a total minnow. They were fresh after a humiliating 3-0 (2 of them being inning losses) against the likes of Hardik Pandya at their own home.

 

[Dingolfy]

I dont agree on your analysis on Bess. He is actually a quality bowler.

To be fair to India, their guys need a break. You cant be down under for 4 months, then come back home and straight away play a series against a quality side. Extremely poor planning by BCCI.

No excuses. India is playing at home and many who played in this game has not played much in Australia.

 

[dani2k]

Congratulations to England for playing having the right resources and playing better cricket. Deserved winners in this test.

As for India, the task has got tougher . But they have seen themselves in worse situations. So not too much concerned. They will stand up, dust themselves and come back harder.

Good luck boys..

 

[Dingolfy]

* In IPL

Don’t think playing lot of T20 cricket against spinners bowling defensive lines with white ball would help them in Test cricket. They prepared well by playing against Srilanka.

 

[Manager101]

As long Pakistan remains miles below India in all formats, we should tone down a bit.

No point in criticizing India unless we manage to reach their level first. Unfortunately, we don’t have the talent, skill and mentality to do so.

Leave it to Pakistani fans to throw stones at India from their mid-table ranking.

Sorry but your team losing at home (India) deserves severe criticism. In modern cricket, a team losing at home is equal to humiliation.

Live with it.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Oh no lol .. I can see OP itching to make a thread like this after a humbling Aus defeat by the Indians... All in all, I predicted ENG could win the series before it started as the Indians are still on cloud 9 from the Oz series win ( I am on track with my prediction)... ENG played well, Anderson was reversing and Archer was great, a well deserved win...

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

If Pakistan lost a home test against this english team and that too in that fashion, I will be completely ashamed.

I mean, this England team is very very weak in every department of the game. You can't loose a test in Asia to Dominic Bess-Jack Leach, read the names again. This is probably the worst spin bowling pair of the decade to tour an asian country.

Then you have a top order of : Burns, Sibley, Lawrence. I really like English cricket but sorry, this is not a top order to play test cricket in Asia. Again, it's hand down the worst top three sent by any SENA team over the last decade.

No need to even talk about Archer and Pope playing their first asian test, Buttler not being good against spin, Stokes playing competitive cricket after 6 months etc...

That is the most humiliating home defeat of recent times.

Well done team India,
Thanks again.

Don't worry your Pakistan team will definitely provide you with some shameful moments here and there.
We will be back to gloat here then as well.
Its funny to see a team recently ranked 7, moved to 5 doing hehe and haha on matches where top ranked teams are playing.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Oh no lol .. I can see OP itching to make a thread like this after a humbling Aus defeat by the Indians... All in all, I predicted ENG could win the series before it started as the Indians are still on cloud 9 from the Oz series win ( I am on track with my prediction)... ENG played well, Anderson was reversing and Archer was great, a well deserved win...

Yeap my prediction before the start of the series:

 

[saeed5646]

Don't worry your Pakistan team will definitely provide you with some shameful moments here and there.
We will be back to gloat here then as well.
Its funny to see a team recently ranked 7, moved to 5 doing hehe and haha on matches where top ranked teams are playing.

Yet you are first person on every Pakistan cricket discussion .why are you so much interested in 7th rank team

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Don't worry your Pakistan team will definitely provide you with some shameful moments here and there.
We will be back to gloat here then as well.
Its funny to see a team recently ranked 7, moved to 5 doing hehe and haha on matches where top ranked teams are playing.

It seems their hehe and haha is really hurting you.

 

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Speaking too soon.

India tend to come back strongly,this is a different type of Indian team.

Should show respect to where it is deserved.......

England still had a few studs who all performed but can they do that 100% of the time in this series-I doubt it.

India will still win the series

 

[Thomaskutty]

If India lose the next test, it's Australia vs NZ at the WTC final confirmed

 

[ikky47]

If India lose the next test, it's Australia vs NZ at the WTC final confirmed

How so? I was under the impression that the cheating Aussies could no longer qualify for the WTC final?

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

It seems their hehe and haha is really hurting you.

He he ha ha.

 

[Thomaskutty]

How so? I was under the impression that the cheating Aussies could no longer qualify for the WTC final?

Possibilities ..

 

[Mobashir]

This is a 4 test series. A lot of cricket to be played. I would expect an Indian bounceback. Great for the series that England have struck first blood. India have shown resilience and toughness before especially after 36 all out so expect they will compete better in the remaining series. England are becoming a juggernaught though, winning away from home a lot more than they used to.

Yeah India should bounce back and win against England at home.
That is the minimum they can do with England rotating their already not so strong team for Asian conditions.