She is discussing things at a strategic level, not tactical level. I know for you guys it helps to miss the forest for the trees, but no one else sees it that way.
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A sincere question to Indians, what did your government achieve from "Operation Sindoor"?
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your own defence analysts and journalists crying to media - stating that you got hammered and modi was useless
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control yourselves, i dont wanna see your bottom lip wobbling and you making weaping sounds lol
Absolutely not ... because she mentions 1 to 3 jets being shot down ... which is why I asked that question.
So you won the war despite 11 bases being pounded ? Is that what you are trying to say?
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just proves how delusional he is - showing fake satelite ai images = yet he's said to me that he doesnt acnowledge these images when i showed him the indian air bases pakistan hit.
Indian Air Bases got Struck | Satellite Imagery Analysis | Defence Reactions
he also said pakistan didnt hit any indian bases : yet ive showed him the indian briefing - thr own colonel sophie qureshi confirming we hit many of thr bases - but watch the whole video below, he proves the jets we shot down - pictures from india own media:
indian jounalists admitting to thr own media, that they got hammered:
@Champ_Pal @straighttalk @Bhaijaan @uppercut - watch all the videos,
in other words you got no timestamps in that video where credible evidence is presented that I can see. Right ?
You are cherry picking one sentence. You ignored all the diplomatic repercussions she discussed.
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That's such a sanghi thing to do. Cherry picking sentences and taking things out of context.
This is why discussing anything with the sanghis is pointless. They are very dishonest.
Its not me that is cherry picking. Its her that is doing that by completely ignoring what India did and only to highlight the jets that India lost. Thats just being very dishonest. BTW if you go look at her videos where she is talking to Indian media she sings a different tune and openly says that the Pak army used LeT and that Pakistan can never win a conventional war against India.
Last time I checked there are no sanctions on India, no trade deal with US yet, refused to buy F-35, India still buys Oil from Russia and they just signed a military/trade deal with UAE so what diplomatic repercussions are you talking about ?
Since IND had the upper hand for 3 days of Op Sindoor , are you aware of the terms & conditions which we made PAK accept before agreeing to their 3rd party plea [ via the USA ] for a ceasefire ? c @DeadlyVenom @Bhaag Viru Bhaag @The Bald Eagle
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Operation Tandoor has exposed India very badly. It was not just a military defeat but also a PR defeat.
After Tandoor, India never threatened Pakistan again (even after the recent Delhi attack). It shows India suffered a big defeat and they don't want to experience it again.
After Tandoor, India never threatened Pakistan again (even after the recent Delhi attack). It shows India suffered a big defeat and they don't want to experience it again.
what were the Terms and conditions of the surrender ?
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Modi's master '' Doland Trump '' said SURRENDER
Modi's master '' Doland Trump '' said SURRENDER
What were the terms of the surrender ?
Let me try to put this in easy words for a simpleton bhakt : IND initiated the conflict , they had upper hand , Trump told Modi - sit boy & he did .Sums up T & C for ceasefire announced by Tau Trump or is it surrender by paw paw .
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Viru , it is because he is cluless about how to respond !!!Mr. Tabela (see I can do it better than you, munne), why don't you share the terms that Trump allegedly imposed on Modi? @Human786 was actually asking whether you are aware of the "terms and conditions", but instead of answering, you started cross-questioning him. Why don't you explain why the ceasefire happened, and why Modi said "Pakistan ne hum par hi hamla karna shuru kar diya"? Was it because of the loss of some Rafale jets involving Pakistan, or something else related to Mr. Dolaand Trump and Surender Mowgli? Chal jawaab de. #PuchtaHaiBharat
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He needs to improve his comprehension skills.
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Basically, poor bhakts are defending the indefensible, the vile oaf Modi, who makes a mess of everything he does - so they have no option but to be rude, illogical, and obtuse !He needs to improve his comprehension skills.
there is no suchvthing as terms and conditions when dealing with an absolutely rogue state like pak... you think they are following the "terms and conditions " that were agreed after 1971 war ?
So now what is the answer to my question ?
Mods if this guy posts insults .... my responses will be equally brutal.
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no thr whole videos shows your indian defence analysts admitting we took down nunerous of jets and we hit your bases - they also conceled defeat - calling modi useless,
but typical your crying like a indian, heres another video for you to cry about :
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thats uppercut for you, tbh thats all the indians for you
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Enjoy - have a ribeye while watching them:
@Vikram1989 you ran off again, @Champ_Pal @Romali_rotti @rpant_gabba
We initiated the war and had the upper hand. On day 3, a third party (Trump) declared a ceasefire. What terms and conditions did Modi, who had the upper hand, impose on the vanquished before agreeing to the ceasefire, directly or through Trump ?
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If bhakts still don't believe after these proofs, I have to say they have clinical mental illness.
Their own military folks were saying losses happened.
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Apparently, as many as 20 Indian jets were on locks. Pakistan could've downed up to 20 Indian jets. But, they decided to just shoot 6 or 7. I guess Pakistan showed restraint.
I feel like Pakistan should've smashed India more. Missed opportunity.
‘We could have shot down 20 Indian jets' but showed restraint: Bilawal
Bilawal says Pakistan acted in self-defence, as permitted under UN Charter.Says India targeted civilian infrastructure, including dams, religious sites. Calls on global community to help reduce tensions and encourage...
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Please share evidence of whatever you claimed...i know you cannot share anything. Authentic beyond. The bs001 visual and the cds admitting a jet down. But still go for it . And while paf has this superiority ask your esteemed jarnail why is Kashmir still with India and IWT suspended ..after all it is act of war and holy jihad for Munir...
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Please share evidence of whatever you claimed...i know you cannot share anything. Authentic beyond. The bs001 visual and the cds admitting a jet down. But still go for it . And while paf has this superiority ask your esteemed jarnail why is Kashmir still with India and IWT suspended ..after all it is act of war and holy jihad for Munir...
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No new normal. Terrorism is gone but accidents are increasing
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Look if I have to spoon feed you even after 9 months then I cant help you. Just go online and have a look. There are verified images from indians showing crashed air craft. Seriously...Please share evidence of whatever you claimed...i know you cannot share anything. Authentic beyond. The bs001 visual and the cds admitting a jet down. But still go for it . And while paf has this superiority ask your esteemed jarnail why is Kashmir still with India and IWT suspended ..after all it is act of war and holy jihad for Munir...
Thanks brother. Can you find the links to.the batinda and new mig29upg crash evidence too. There are plenty of pics and vids. I just dont have time to go around collecting all of these for these rss goons.
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This thread is so hilarious now. Both Indians and Pakistanis going at it, ahhh love it 
... This is the real OP Sindhoor right here this thread 
... This is the real OP Sindhoor right here this thread 
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Lol may be you have read too much replies from UCThis thread is so hilarious now. Both Indians and Pakistanis going at it, ahhh love it
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Well, in a normal war, destruction happens on both sides. But for these andhbhakts, war means destruction only for the enemy, without even a single brick being damaged on our side.
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I dont get it. I would be keeping quiet if we lost aircraft and at best demanding an enquiry etc. These guys just completely deny reality. The visuals and vids are from indians. Not even Pakistanis. What can you do? I pity you guys who have to put up with this brainless nonsense.Well, in a normal war, destruction happens on both sides. But for these andhbhakts, war means destruction only for the enemy, without even a single brick being damaged on our side.
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Breaking!! India got its first confirmed Air Kill from OP Sindoor.
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The INR is now at its lowest vs USD.
Its not just Indian jets falling out the sky.
Its not just Indian jets falling out the sky.
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oye unpad punk ... what were the terms and conditions that Modi signed after he supposedly surrendered ?
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No response ? Please keep in mind that your original claim was that after Day1 the IAF was grounded and therefore could not fire a single missile. So according to you all missiles fired by India were from Indian Army's ground launched missile systems.
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don't explain me anything just explain me this!
legal contracts and money worth more than victims of 11/26 and pahalgam?
if yes then shame on you Indians and your broadcasters
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i don't support any kind of terrorism bhai
mein app ka zameer aur ghairat jaga raha hoon.
you accuse Pakistan for doing terrorism in india and pahalgham, Bangladesh boycotted INDIA over 1 fizz
11/26 resulted in 175 deaths and 26 deaths in pahalgham thatsa nearly 200 Indians
hai koi sharam ya ghairat you broadcasters and jay shah are blackmailing and threatening pakistan to play with india
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No wonder your lot don’t understand shame - why are you still breathing air when terrorists killed children in your country? Koi sharma hai, ki sab bech di?
I don’t think you understand the meaning of mature responses. No wonder that your reactions are where they are.
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India ki to Pakistan mein neelam ho rahi hai. how can you beg to play with Pakistan after accusing Pakistan for being responsible of deaths of 200 Indian?
hai himmat to let pakistan boycott india vs pakistan without broadcaster threatnin g and jay shah blackmailing
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Go back and see what I said. They didnt fire a single air to air bvr missile. I also said there were reports of an Su30 firing some brahmos on the second or third day but they were out of range. In other words your airforce could only fire at maximum range for fear of getting shot down. They were grounded on the first night and only late in the second or third day did they fire air to surface missiles from within India at max range to avoid getting wiped out. Now answer my question. Why did your airforce, armed with the meteor not fire a single anti air missile? Why?
Because they went after much more high value targets on the ground. An in-operational airbase even for a few days is a big win in the heat of the war. You could have a kickass airforce but it is of no use if it is out of commission ... understand? Now tell me why you got hit in soo many airbases if your air defence was soo good and you had grounded IAF.
Now coming back to the original topic of how the various Air bases were hit ... this is what you said earlier in post# 1876 point# 2and 4 which is quoted below in bold. That was your explanation(Ground launched missiles) for how Kirana+Sargodha were hit in broad daylight. So it appears that now you have quietly shifted that to long range air launched missiles ?
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Bhai just show something from dgispr atleast or independent respected media house..not some random fake Pak twitter handle peddling ai generate edited clips... Your friend. @finalfantasy7 is particularly adept at sharing these laughable clips and gets embarrassed every turn
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LOL. India never admit their losses in combats.
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Stop peddling claims...there are thousands of instances to call you out including 26/11 pathankot pulwama...please have your brain checked
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You will be surprised by how many of their Military personnel have died from "accidentally setting off weapon" since May.
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yet ive shown indian media showing all the jets downed and indian bases hit = yet you havent debunked any of them, yet you.
ive got a source showing all locations of the indian jets downed = from indian own media yet again = i'll list it on monday (on my to do list).
ive asked you to prove the the indian iaf chief minister claim that you shot 5 5 pakistani f16's = you keep running away
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watch on monday, ill show you that you didnt hit Kirana+Sargodha
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Sure how many...and did you do a t test before and after may 7 2025 to prove that there is an uptick ...
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Sorry but which clips are AI generated? There are clear clips of wreckage and enough information from independent sources. This is no longer in dispute. The IAF lost aircraft that night. There is no disputing this. The IAF can easily dispel this by simply doing an elephant walk of all its raphas..but they won't.
Also nobody seems to answer my question. Why did the IAF fail to fire a single air to air bvr missile that night?
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Sure please do and while you are it focus on the claims
Indian media means Indian media ..mainline media not fringe khalistani media and not Pak twittee handle sharing the said media.
Six jets down with evidence means picture of wreckage ...not sources claimed eye witness claimed ..not some journalist claiming whatever . I am ok with anyone claiming anything as long as it has video images similar to what Indian military shows..no question asked.
Btw while you are it ..read the swiss report ..impartial independent and look at the aircraft losses that are verified and the overall flow of battle and why Pakistan was outsmarted and outgunned and forced to beg for ceasefire.
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Check this out on Page 39 of the CHPM report on the May War that came out recently.
Link: https://chpm.ch/wp-content/uploads/Operation-SIndoor-15-January-2026.pdf
"Nevertheless, sufficient elements appear to indicate that, by the morning of 10 May 2025, the Indian Air Force had succeeded in achieving air superiority over a significant portion of Pakistan’s airspace. This in turn enabled it to continue long-range strikes against enemy infrastructure at will, atleast for as long as it retained sufficient stocks of munitions such as BrahMos or SCALP-EG. At the same time, the Pakistan Air Force had lost the ability to repeat the operations it had conducted so successfully on 7 May 2025, owing to the loss of its forward air-surveillance radars and the threat posed by S-400 systems to its AWACS standoff weapons delivery platforms, while its own strikes conducted between 7 and 10 May 2025 had been largely thwarted by Indian defences"
It also says on the next page that Pakistani DGMO asked for a ceasefire.
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I am disappointed on behalf of Indian widows and jawaans, and I believe the source of Indian anger is for similar reasons.
Unfortunately we are used to their meltdowns and most of their positions are built on sandcastles, but hopefully like their PM they can dance away their pain.
Unfortunately we are used to their meltdowns and most of their positions are built on sandcastles, but hopefully like their PM they can dance away their pain.
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Let's take your arguments one by one and please be specific
1. Almost every clip is fake or AI a generated. In the aftermath of the May 7 event...only two images were shared by mainstream media...a fuel tank that was jettisoned and one bs001 tail. The fuel tank is no proof of wreckage. Every other clip is shared by a pak twitter handle...not dgispr..which only shared a Godzilla audio as evidence. So question is why is mainstream media not buying this ai generated fake. The swiss report clearly points out this. So if you can link all 6 jets damaged via reputed media source...go for it.
2. So all the claims of 6 jets down is just Paksitan hiding it's abject failure to prevent destruction of its terror assets even when they were in full alert...it's as if PAF is a non existent air force..nothing seems to have changed since Kargil when it stood by and watched IAF massacre northern light infantry...imagine a country losing a fight where it occupies such heights and have unfettered supply from Pakistan...lmao..probably unheard of in military history.
3. Because Indias target were terrorists not Pak military. Because we know we can achieve that target without hitting Pak air force as their defense are next to useless. India identified terrorists as enemies and hit them. India didn't identify Pakistan military as enemy hence no bvr missiles were fired. Since Pakistan knows it has ZERO terror target in India...they can only attack Indian military . It failed but then it gave carte blanche to Indian military to now destroy Pak military. Results were spectacular. Unlike you here are the damage assessments
155 killed in border...shared by Samaa tv
One hq9 and one radar damaged..shared by dgispr
11 airbases destroyed...satellite images available
Multiple aircrafts destroyed...provided by the swiss report.
Paksitan stopped it's video game mission in 4 hrs and ran to Trump to request ceasefire...
So humiliating ..forget about Kahsmir resolution..no country fucking cared...IWT...bade bakne aya act of war..it remains suspended...total victory startegically for India without getting into a year long fight aka Russia or Israel fighting lesser powers.
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Lmao...Paksitan a delulia country can have any semblance of strategic depth or technical advantage in dreams. Back when you had startegic depth ..this is what happened
65...lost a war and the foolish awam celebrated defense day when they attacked Kashmir
71..lost half their country and had 93k bandar paraded before the world.
Now India will simply extend the war more that few days..and your country will cease to exist short of threatening to use nukes.
I don't know what world you stay in but what use is your so called technical advantage.. when you air force is in alert for 15 days and can't prevent its prized jehadi assets vaporized..so basically it says when Pak is on full alert it cannot protect its terrorists just like some country can waltz in and kill Osama or drone kill its civilians with 0 repurcussions.
Secondly that air force is such a joke that it can't protect its own airbases and radars and begging Trump for ceasefire is its best defense.
So please spare me your bs...a Islamic madrassa country can never achieve technological superiority beyond handed toys by China and we all know it will be countered.
When Pak really has any superiority..we will see a full fledge attack on India like 65 or 71....not these terror attacks.
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What visual image ..lmao did PAF produce..at least IAF has satellite images of two aircrafts in bholari"Ill even take some IAF evidence similar to what the PAF produced. E.g. electronic signatures, visual evidence like videos etc."
Above one is the funniest part after minister showed the proofs on social media
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Please share the video evidence...also remember in 2019 the mig21 shot down f16..a generation ahead fighter ...as per radar tracking shared by IAF..I am glad that you accept that kind of evidence now.
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As per no 3..only joke air forces like Iran or Pakistan parade air force officers like celebrity while in service to help in false propaganda...you don't see professional air forces parade their in service pilots to celebrate so called air confrontations ..they are recognized internally. As the saying goes empty vessels make the most noise
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Thing is they don't have any evidence or facts.Bro please one request to you and other Pakistani - whenever discussed with me , please comes with real facts because I'll exposed every Fake Propaganda within a minute.
Their source is Twitter handles misrepresenting Indian or neutral sources or utter fake debunked images. Either these guys are grade a morons or just delusional fools.
These are the only established Pak battler victory in Sindoor..one or two jets were downed on May 7..maybe one rafale...as accepted by Indian CDS...no evidence was shared beyond a doubtful bs001 tail pic.
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We didn't because we have a no nuke attack policy and a treat is signed every year on Jan 1. What we achieved is the following
Any terror attack on India will see hits on Pakistan and it's proven Pak cannot do anything.
IWT can be suspended without any repurcussions.
Kahsmir is not a matter of dispute except the part occupied by Pakistan and China.
Pakistan will beg for ceasefire as soon as India achieves strategic and superiority and there is 0 risk of escalation or nukes.
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Clash report tactical tribune...my good these days Pak and Chinese military don't have satellite images but these lawaaris Pak channels has original images...kitne paisa hai Bhai inke pas to have this level of satellite capabilities and videos...make a video..show some wreckage claim it's rafale and the awam dances and shares it without a single moment of thinking
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I will not debate the military part of @Savak post as the swiss report and the pak pm thanking Trump has settled the question of who established strategic superiority at the cost of 1-2 jets with equivalent losses to paf.
But the more hilarious part is the cricket and diplomatic portion of the post
Let's see a minnow no entity like Bangaldesh decided to not play in India...result 14-1 booted out of the tournament. So much for the world revolting against India . Now Paksitan for no reason decided to boycott at steel financial loss to itself..albeit India also loses. Good decision but no country is supporting it. If you think countries like Australia England will side with bhiakris and trophy less countries like Pakistan sn Bangladesh..you live in Pakistan only. Other countries have no reason to revolt as they are winning and enjoying the riches. There will be consequences for Pakistan for sure..and it will be popcorn time...laughable taking on icc not on their own terms
As for diplomacy...we see Putin visiting India and making Sharif wait for an hour. Eu rushing to seal a deal. I don't even know what isolation or whatever other bs you are peddling. Even us Congress is questionint tarrifs on India..all the while your pm is nominating for Nobel prize and thanking Trump..his body language is so cringe.
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I'm really disappointed thw behalf of pakistan widows and Jawan and i belive Pakistan anger justified for this reasonto boycott the match.
Yesterday 200+ ppl killed in pakistan so they boycott the match .
But will they boycott thw match if india - Pakistan meets in knockout? Asking for a friends .
Or they forget these widows & Jawan and shamelessly play in the knockout ?
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Problem with posters like @Major is one dimensional thinking and India hatred that overshadows rational thinking. I remember this guy trying to taunt Indian posters with Kasab and other terrorists just to get a rub out of Indian posters which was even criticized by sane Pakistani posters.
On one side he claims India ko pel diya, phod diya, on the other side not a single word on what happened in Baluchistan 2 days back that led to this drastic decision. In fact couldn’t find a single discussion because it is the inconvenient truth. Just hawa-hawai batein like “Fitna-al-Hindustan” or whatever. I bet 90% of Indians don’t even know what the word Fitna means, sounds like a romantic lyric from some Bollywood song. and supposedly India named their terror organization that.
This is why we can never have a proper discussion here.
It is what it is. The next 2-3 days will make it crystal clear where everyone stands
On one side he claims India ko pel diya, phod diya, on the other side not a single word on what happened in Baluchistan 2 days back that led to this drastic decision. In fact couldn’t find a single discussion because it is the inconvenient truth. Just hawa-hawai batein like “Fitna-al-Hindustan” or whatever. I bet 90% of Indians don’t even know what the word Fitna means, sounds like a romantic lyric from some Bollywood song.
and supposedly India named their terror organization that.This is why we can never have a proper discussion here.
It is what it is. The next 2-3 days will make it crystal clear where everyone stands
Pakistan needs to repay the innocent lives lost in Balochistan..I'm really disappointed thw behalf of pakistan widows and Jawan and i belive Pakistan anger justified for this reasonto boycott the match.
Yesterday 200+ ppl killed in pakistan so they boycott the match .
But will they boycott thw match if india - Pakistan meets in knockout? Asking for a friends .
Or they forget these widows & Jawan and shamelessly play in the knockout ?
Or maybe Nipah will repay..
Or both..
Dont worry, u dont come under the sane group of posters hereProblem with posters like @Major is one dimensional thinking and India hatred that overshadows rational thinking. I remember this guy trying to taunt Indian posters with Kasab and other terrorists just to get a rub out of Indian posters which was even criticized by sane Pakistani posters.
On one side he claims India ko pel diya, phod diya, on the other side not a single word on what happened in Baluchistan 2 days back that led to this drastic decision. In fact couldn’t find a single discussion because it is the inconvenient truth. Just hawa-hawai batein like “Fitna-al-Hindustan” or whatever. I bet 90% of Indians don’t even know what the word Fitna means, sounds like a romantic lyric from some Bollywood song.
This is why we can never have a proper discussion here.
It is what it is. The next 2-3 days will make it crystal clear where everyone stands
Ajmal ***** the greatProblem with posters like @Major is one dimensional thinking and India hatred that overshadows rational thinking. I remember this guy trying to taunt Indian posters with Kasab and other terrorists just to get a rub out of Indian posters which was even criticized by sane Pakistani posters.
On one side he claims India ko pel diya, phod diya, on the other side not a single word on what happened in Baluchistan 2 days back that led to this drastic decision. In fact couldn’t find a single discussion because it is the inconvenient truth. Just hawa-hawai batein like “Fitna-al-Hindustan” or whatever. I bet 90% of Indians don’t even know what the word Fitna means, sounds like a romantic lyric from some Bollywood song.
This is why we can never have a proper discussion here.
It is what it is. The next 2-3 days will make it crystal clear where everyone stands
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I read the first line. And then just stopped. Then I forced myself to just skim the rest. Your post is so laughable that it is beneath me to reply to it. I mean just answer one question for me how old are you. Genuine question.
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he's just hurt that hes found out that its true that pakistan took down 8 indian fighter jets.
hence he brought this thread back - and then with uppercut = both posted some paid unknown swiss article - that india won = with outshowing any analysis in its srticle.
hes hurting badly
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They all are. I mean just imagine. All your life you've been told the su30 Asian raptor would wipe out the whole paf and it gets shot down like a paper plane. Then your told the Raphael will destroy everything Pakistan has and it gets wiped out and turns out to be a massive dud. The psychological damage would be immense.
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All sanghis are like that regardless of age.
They can't write like civilized/normal human beings.
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china hammered you in the 1960's, and yet the hammering yet again they gave you in the galwan clash = yet india still cant show any prove of (you lot "winning")
you said kashmir is not a matter of dispute = it is, under the UN it is
and whats this got to do with this thread = r u hiding behind the rubbish fake swiss so called report you posted - you thought it was real.
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i did say i was going to post this on (monday just past) - been busy with work and stringing tennis rackets - ill post the video of the actual footage from indian own civillians talking about the downed jets + plus ive already proven by using indian own journalists - regarding the hammering we gave you - all videos confirming mutiple of jets we downed - thr already posted in this thread
but i will post the wrekages coming monday