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Even if Arsenal come back here they will get hammered by Man city next week.

Epic choke and all those that were praising the last few transfer windows when we still have trash players in the sqaud.
 
We lose tonight and heads need to roll, 2nd season running bottled under pressure.

Same lack of depth in squad exposed, same weak mentality.
 
Please get Vieira off the pitch! waste of money, and the clown is asking the crowd to make some noise!
 
1-3 Game over

Zinchenko ball watching on back post.

Arteta and Edu both need to be sacked! Bottle job FC!
 
70th Min and usual time for Arteta to make a sub.

Clueless manager!
 
Legends Henry and Patrick Vieria watching this embarrassment of a bottle job team.
 
Another game and no ESR again!

yet the clown Vieira plays 57 minutes!
 
Venkatesham's cornershop tactics failing miserably.

Get White in defence , play KT, Jesus is the bearer of Rosenthal impersonation. Wake up, Mickey!
 
2-3 oddegard, all little to late

Disappeared most of game as usual
 
Game over

Congrats Man City on title and there 3rd title in 3 seasons.

Arteta deserves the sack for his team selection and subs in last 3 games.
 
Nothing has changed.
We still have to beat City which is a tall order.

Ramsdale brain fade was the biggest mistake of the game.
From 3-1 down we turned it up and should have won this game.

We fight on until the end
 
Lol @ Arsenal. Bottled the last 3 games. Lets see how they cope vs Man City.
 
Arsenal were poor for most of the second half.

Yes they ended the match well and could have won, but for more than 30 minutes of the second half they were lacklustre and lacking ideas.
 
Nothing has changed.
We still have to beat City which is a tall order.

Ramsdale brain fade was the biggest mistake of the game.
From 3-1 down we turned it up and should have won this game.

We fight on until the end

You seriously think we are going to beat a City team which has has beaten us 11 PL games in a row.

We are playing crap, have you seen City recently.

City will win 3-0 next week.
 
Arsenal were poor for most of the second half.

Yes they ended the match well and could have won, but for more than 30 minutes of the second half they were lacklustre and lacking ideas.

Poor team selections, poor subs again! changes should have been made at HT.

This is what happens when you have a novice manager and had no plan B and C.
 
Not a title winning defence unfortunately

Top 4 bottled last season
League title bottled last season

Clueless manager

Why sign jorginho if your not going to play him!

No game time for ESR!

Vieira running around like a headless chicken

Zinchenko another liability

Retaining trash like Eddie, Elneny, Holding

A captain who goes missing 90% of the game

Edu and Arteta both deserve the sack on yet another collapse with a sqaud with holes in it.
 
Arsenal were poor for most of the second half.

Yes they ended the match well and could have won, but for more than 30 minutes of the second half they were lacklustre and lacking ideas.

They went five at the back and stifled Saka and Martinelli.
Arteta countered that by bringing on Trossard who can drive through the middle.

Issues remain the same but that doesn't mean we should be losing or drawing at home to the likes of Southampton. Until Saliba is back snd we find a proper back up for him we will continue to be fallible like pre Saliba/Gabriel years. That's why some people are saying "same old arsenal".

However I think we're on the right course and am hopeful Arteta/Management can address this and few other issues in the summer.
 
It’s not over for Arsenal yet but you just feel they are starting to feel sorry for themselves, everything will be on the game against City, it will decide the title
 
They went five at the back and stifled Saka and Martinelli.
Arteta countered that by bringing on Trossard who can drive through the middle.

Issues remain the same but that doesn't mean we should be losing or drawing at home to the likes of Southampton. Until Saliba is back snd we find a proper back up for him we will continue to be fallible like pre Saliba/Gabriel years. That's why some people are saying "same old arsenal".

However I think we're on the right course and am hopeful Arteta/Management can address this and few other issues in the summer.

Same Manager / DOF who have had numerous TW to address issues in the sqaud.

looks at the last TW - We signed Trossard (excellent)

what were the point of signing Jorghino if your not going to play him and kiwor? whats the point in signing a CB who is clearly not read to be picked. Instead we had Rob holding again.

Saka was trash again so why not taking him off! Arteta is clueless when it comes to in game management. Subs should have been at HT
 
Same Manager / DOF who have had numerous TW to address issues in the sqaud.

looks at the last TW - We signed Trossard (excellent)

what were the point of signing Jorghino if your not going to play him and kiwor? whats the point in signing a CB who is clearly not read to be picked. Instead we had Rob holding again.

Saka was trash again so why not taking him off! Arteta is clueless when it comes to in game management. Subs should have been at HT

There is a simple answer to that.
I wouldn't have brought on Jorghino either.
Not when Southampton had gone five at the back.

You trust the attackers who have won you most of the games and that's what Arteta did and it wasn't the subs that cost us the game. It was inexplicable play by the goal keeper and some atrocious defending.
 
I’m sure even Arteta did not expect Arsenal to win the league this season. He was building towards it but it is happening at least two years earlier.

You are right that I did not think Arsenal would win the league this season and I had my doubts until Arsenal picked up from where they left after the World Cup and the Jesus injury did not hurt their momentum.

From December onwards, I have been very clear about my prediction that Arsenal would win the league. I stick to that prediction. If you don’t have the bottle for it that is not my problem.

Besides, I do not have time for impatient fans like you who wanted Arteta sacked 12 months ago and were adamant that he will never take Arsenal forward.

He has already proved you wrong in spectacular fashion and if I were you, I would stop doubting his ability to see Arsenal over the line this season.

I have bookmarked all your posts in the Arteta thread and I will be bumping them all next month when Arsenal win the league.

:)))

Bottle Job FC and you were deluded enough to think Title was in the bag!
 
Lost count how many goals we have conceded this year with defensive mistakes, and how many goals we have conceded down our left hand side.

Either self inflicted goals, goals from set pieces and players ball watching.

Saliba injured and Partey out of form and the whole team falls apart!
 
Arteta is a naive manager. If Arsenal had a top and experienced manager like Ancelotti, they would have won the league.
 
Arteta is a naive manager. If Arsenal had a top and experienced manager like Ancelotti, they would have won the league.

Add Edu to that list as well - Vieria, Jorginho, Kiwior just to name some of the lame signings which have offered zero sqaud depth.

Arteta only knows one way to play, as soon as a couple key players are missing and out of form the whole team falls apart.

Arteta then expects players like Holding, Tierney, Vieria etc.. to play in same role as others which they simply cant.

Any manager with half a brain would try and play a different ways with different personel. Having Holding in team means Ben white isnt bombing forward.

Asking Tierney to play Zinchenko role at west ham.

Then Vieira running round like a headless chicken and oddegard dissapearing which means we had to weaklings in midfield getting bullied.

3.5 years in charge and a manager with no plan B, under pressure!
 
Last year we would have lost three in a row.
This year those games were drawn.

Anyone who thinks we haven't improved is a pleb
 
Last year we would have lost three in a row.
This year those games were drawn.

Anyone who thinks we haven't improved is a pleb

Cant even beat the bottom of the league. Drew home and away vs southampton.

Man city maybe 2nd but they have dropped points in consecutive games all season.

We drop points in 3 games in a row vs Everton, Brentford, Man city (1 point from 3 games) and now these 3 games (3 points from 9)

So all those "oh last season we would have lost these games" is a load of non-sense!

Your just full of excuse, club has a manager with no Plan B and poor game management, and a mentally weak team under pressure.

Bottled top 4 last season, same with title this year. This what happens when you dont have a proper captain and when the players are clearly not mentally up for it.

To start todays game in such a pathetic and lame manner after dropping points in last two games says it all. Southampton for the 1st 30 mins of game looked like they were the ones at top of the table.

Im sure you can go celebrate at the finish 2nd we have progressed parade at end of season.
 
Cant even beat the bottom of the league. Drew home and away vs southampton.

Man city maybe 2nd but they have dropped points in consecutive games all season.

We drop points in 3 games in a row vs Everton, Brentford, Man city (1 point from 3 games) and now these 3 games (3 points from 9)

So all those "oh last season we would have lost these games" is a load of non-sense!

Your just full of excuse, club has a manager with no Plan B and poor game management, and a mentally weak team under pressure.

Bottled top 4 last season, same with title this year. This what happens when you dont have a proper captain and when the players are clearly not mentally up for it.

To start todays game in such a pathetic and lame manner after dropping points in last two games says it all. Southampton for the 1st 30 mins of game looked like they were the ones at top of the table.

Im sure you can go celebrate at the finish 2nd we have progressed parade at end of season.

Mate you're just sounding demented now.
 
Mate you're just sounding demented now.

Says the guy who is making excuses and is ignoring bottling the league and your saying 2nd place is acceptable and your will wait till next season to make judgement.
 
That was an awful, result, showed some fight towards the end up but you need to be beating Southampton at home

Back to game poor results, in different circumstances

Going to be an interesting game at the Etihad, Arsenal need the win whilst a draw would be sufficient for City, I wonder how the managers approach this

I will sadly calling for Arteta to be sacked is crazy considering it's almost May and Arsenal are in a title race that no one expected them to be
 
Arteta:

"It's not a final because there are still six games to go and still enough points to be played.

"Obviously, the concern is just turning around this moment, some players if they are in doubt. Get those doubts away and prepare for the game in Manchester to win the game.

"In football, you go through moments when you make errors, or you are not in a good moment. You have to come away from that, and [the players] reacted throughout the game.

"It's not that they bottled the game and said, 'OK, it's nothing to do with me', and they hide. I haven't seen anybody hiding. They were really willing to do more."

"I don't see a lack of confidence. When a team lack confidence normally players start to hide in certain moments. I didn't see a single players doing that, they took risks and took the initiative.

"That is why we created the chances we created, that is why we got back to 3-3 and should have won the game. The confidence is there."
 
Pathetic Arsenal showing where they are mentally

Same as last season, under pressure they crumble easily. That's comes from the manager, the club itself who lacks ambition and retaining some mentally weak players in squad. Their is no accountability at the club, it will be swept under carpet, then same thing will happen next season.

Before I thought this club needed maybe 5 more players in squad to keep competing after last few showing we need another 8, which ain't going to happen under these owners and a clueless recruiter in Edu.
 
That was an awful, result, showed some fight towards the end up but you need to be beating Southampton at home

Back to game poor results, in different circumstances

Going to be an interesting game at the Etihad, Arsenal need the win whilst a draw would be sufficient for City, I wonder how the managers approach this

I will sadly calling for Arteta to be sacked is crazy considering it's almost May and Arsenal are in a title race that no one expected them to be

City always play to win under Pep, so that ain't going to change. Plus they are are home. They are in form and have slapped Arsenal 11 PL games in a row, which will be 12 next week.

Grealish, Haaland will be licking their lips. A repeat of the 5-0 thrashing last season won't be a shock. Arteta has no plan B so he ain't going to be able to stop a rampant City.

Prime example in Southampton game, xhaka out why not play jorghino and play. Double pivot so you can control midfield. Instead he plays Vieira who has been **** all season and offers nothing technically or physically so Southampton just ran through are midfield, oddegard did his usual dissappear for 70+ minutes of game before reappearing for 10 mins at end. Uve got players like ESR on bench.

3.5 years and a manager so stubborn and inept he can't adapt when certain players are out in pressure games.
 
Arteta:

"It's not a final because there are still six games to go and still enough points to be played.

"Obviously, the concern is just turning around this moment, some players if they are in doubt. Get those doubts away and prepare for the game in Manchester to win the game.

"In football, you go through moments when you make errors, or you are not in a good moment. You have to come away from that, and [the players] reacted throughout the game.

"It's not that they bottled the game and said, 'OK, it's nothing to do with me', and they hide. I haven't seen anybody hiding. They were really willing to do more."

"I don't see a lack of confidence. When a team lack confidence normally players start to hide in certain moments. I didn't see a single players doing that, they took risks and took the initiative.

"That is why we created the chances we created, that is why we got back to 3-3 and should have won the game. The confidence is there."

and yet some people here are calling them bottlers
 
and yet some people here are calling them bottlers

3 games ago we were in a situation where we could have gone to eithad and afforded to lose, now its a must win.

6 points dropped, 4 of those against a mediocre west ham team and bottom of table Southampton.

Same situation where they bottled top 4 last season.

All Artetas speech is defending his players in public, anyone with half a brain can see that

Positive toxicity and delusion does nothing for the club, any winning team is always pushed and made accountable.

Keep hiding behind the "young team" and "you didn't expect them to compete after 3.5 years" because your standards are similar to what spurs fans are.
 
All those Arsenal fans currently crying with excuses

Man city spent loads of money (So have Arsenal over 500M+ in last 3 years)
Arsenal have young team (Zinny, Jesus, Elneny, jorghino, Partey, Xhaka are all youngsters are they?)
Arsenal werent exepcted to challenged (where did Arsenal fans expect to be if a manager is in charge after 3.5 years?)

Reality is Arsenal have played 3 PL games since Man citys last PL game. So its not even though Man city are applying pressure through points and forcing Arsenal into winning, because they have won

We had a liverpool team who arent as strong as usual (Bottled a 2-0) lead
A west ham team who have been poor all season (got slapped by newcastle 5-1 week before)
Southampton (Bottom of the league and were struggling to score goals)

And through NO applied pressure from Man city (because they havent played) - Arsenal have bottled it

but lets use excuse "oh we cant really compete against Man city"

sorry loser mentality!
 
Forward Gabriel Jesus, speaking to Sky Sports, said: "Manchester City have two games in hand but if we want to be champions we have to go there to win the game - that is all."

It was a statement Arteta agreed with, while former Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher claims the Gunners now need something "miraculous" to win the title.
 
Forward Gabriel Jesus, speaking to Sky Sports, said: "Manchester City have two games in hand but if we want to be champions we have to go there to win the game - that is all."

It was a statement Arteta agreed with, while former Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher claims the Gunners now need something "miraculous" to win the title.

Do you think Arsenal will win at the Eithad?

in the entire time of supporting Arsenal any time i have seen them win the league they have had a statement win in a big pressure game which has ultimately won them the title

Anfield 89 - last game of the season had to win 2-0 at Anfield to win title, won 2-0

Anfield 91 - 28th Game of the season, Arsenal went to Anfield with a 3 point lead in what was seen as pivitol game, won 1-0 Merson scored, seamen was man of match. Arsenal extended lead to 6 points and went on to win league

Old trafford 98 - 30th game of season - Arsenal went to old Trafford and won 1-0 during went on to win the league

Old trafford 02 - 2nd to last game of season Arsenal went to old Trafford and won 1-0 and lifted trophy that night

Stamford Bridge 04 - Arsenal went to Stamford bridge and won 2-1 after been 1-0 down and went on to win the league


So Arsenal will need something on that same level
 
Do you think Arsenal will win at the Eithad?

in the entire time of supporting Arsenal any time i have seen them win the league they have had a statement win in a big pressure game which has ultimately won them the title

Anfield 89 - last game of the season had to win 2-0 at Anfield to win title, won 2-0

Anfield 91 - 28th Game of the season, Arsenal went to Anfield with a 3 point lead in what was seen as pivitol game, won 1-0 Merson scored, seamen was man of match. Arsenal extended lead to 6 points and went on to win league

Old trafford 98 - 30th game of season - Arsenal went to old Trafford and won 1-0 during went on to win the league

Old trafford 02 - 2nd to last game of season Arsenal went to old Trafford and won 1-0 and lifted trophy that night

Stamford Bridge 04 - Arsenal went to Stamford bridge and won 2-1 after been 1-0 down and went on to win the league


So Arsenal will need something on that same level

Uncle it’s Eid, have some tea.

P.S have some rest and then reflect on the game, I think your emotions are overly high.

Big game next week, there is still a way.
 
Uncle it’s Eid, have some tea.

P.S have some rest and then reflect on the game, I think your emotions are overly high.

Big game next week, there is still a way.

Nothing to do with emotions high.

Difference is Arsenal are conceding to many chances and to many goals and it was bound to come back and bite them.

City on other hand since they lost to spurs have stopped tinkering with the team and are more solid.

Arsenal dont know how to keep clean sheets especially at home.

Conceded 2 goals vs United, 2 vs Bournemouth, 1 vs Brentford (could have been a lot more, 1 vs leeds, 1 vs Palace, 3 against Southampton.

Thats not a title winning defence.

You have a manager who has had plenty of time to fix the defensive issues and hasnt, so this isnt just a reaction to last nights **** show.

Anyways hope your having a good eid.
 
DeBruyne and Haaland will fancy this defence like Babar and Rizwan fancy a b string bowling attack
 
Trossard, Odegaard, Partey, Xhaka, Saka, Martinelli and Jesus have to play full 90 minutes

Otherwise no chance against City
 
Arteta is showing same stubbornness that wenger showed in his second decade at the club when it comes to playing style.

No matter what the team the is going to play one way and regardless of whether certain things are exposed they are going to keep doing so and eventually you get caught out and exposed.

Look at how open and poor Man city were earlier in season, what has Pep done hes moved John stones into midfield next to Rodri or Gudagon so that they have extra stability in front of the defence.

Arteta has this fascination that almost everything in team has to work in a certain way.

inverted full backs, 2 CBs one has 2 be right footed, 1 left footed.

Midfield is 1 DM Pivot, 2 number 8 infront etc...

CB back ups why is holding still at club? plenty chances to sell him, now because hes in team the team has stopped pressing up field because they know that the 2 CBs when isolated in 1 vs 1 can cope as holding is slow and zero positional sense.

what other options are they kiwior? oh wait hes left footed so will only play if gabriel is injured as Arteta cant play with 2 CBs who are left footed.

Your Asking Tierney to come into midfield when hes playing, rather then using him as a defender and using his ability to go on over lap and cross balls in

Jorghino why was he signed? so he can only play when partey is injured or out of form. Xhaka missing was ideal game to replace him, instead players vieira who is not good enough.

How many Games have Arsenal won where the midfield has been Partey / Oddegard and ESR or Vieira. Essentially 1 DM and 2 AM

not many, numerous games last season and this season where the 2 infront of Partey can not handle it physically and vacate space in midfield so that Partey gets exposed on over loads.

Partey / Jorghino could be played and arsenal could play 4-2-3-1 essentially but no that doesnt work for Arteta.

Facts are Manager is stubborn and wants to keep playing same way when certain players cant do that role, hes had plenty of TW to get such players in to fit those rolls.

This stubborness and lack of tactical awareness has been exposed and in last 3 games.

same tactical mistakes will be made vs Man city on wednesday next week as well.

But no one will challenge the manager on his stubborn shortcomings.
 
Trossard, Odegaard, Partey, Xhaka, Saka, Martinelli and Jesus have to play full 90 minutes

Otherwise no chance against City

what about the rest of the donkeys in the team

Also how are you going to fit the 4 attackers in the team?

Maybe playing a back 3?

-----------Ramsdale
----- White Gabriel Tierney
Saka Partey xhaka zinchenko
---------- ESR -----------
------ Trossard Jesus

Thats line up i would go with but i know Arteta wont drop captain Ghostdegaard.

Play a back 3, Tierney has played LCB for scotland before, Saka has played wing back as well but would have to keep grealish quite. Almost match City man for man on formation and hope to hit on counter, ESR Ball carrying ability would help when we get the ball as well.

Holding needs to be dropped.
 
what about the rest of the donkeys in the team

Also how are you going to fit the 4 attackers in the team?

Maybe playing a back 3?

-----------Ramsdale
----- White Gabriel Tierney
Saka Partey xhaka zinchenko
---------- ESR -----------
------ Trossard Jesus

Thats line up i would go with but i know Arteta wont drop captain Ghostdegaard.

Play a back 3, Tierney has played LCB for scotland before, Saka has played wing back as well but would have to keep grealish quite. Almost match City man for man on formation and hope to hit on counter, ESR Ball carrying ability would help when we get the ball as well.

Holding needs to be dropped.

Against big teams mediocargaard has much to prove
 
Nothing to do with emotions high.

Difference is Arsenal are conceding to many chances and to many goals and it was bound to come back and bite them.

City on other hand since they lost to spurs have stopped tinkering with the team and are more solid.

Arsenal dont know how to keep clean sheets especially at home.

Conceded 2 goals vs United, 2 vs Bournemouth, 1 vs Brentford (could have been a lot more, 1 vs leeds, 1 vs Palace, 3 against Southampton.

Thats not a title winning defence.

You have a manager who has had plenty of time to fix the defensive issues and hasnt, so this isnt just a reaction to last nights **** show.

Anyways hope your having a good eid.

I agree but it’s also that stage of play where they are under intense pressure, this is new territory for the players. You’re up against a beastly side who’s 3rd XI would challenge the top 4!!! Arsenal are capable of better but they are also under the pump right now. If they can squeeze a win against City next week, it will give them a major psychological boost.

Thanks bro, Eid Mubarak to you and the family
 
I agree but it’s also that stage of play where they are under intense pressure, this is new territory for the players. You’re up against a beastly side who’s 3rd XI would challenge the top 4!!! Arsenal are capable of better but they are also under the pump right now. If they can squeeze a win against City next week, it will give them a major psychological boost.

Thanks bro, Eid Mubarak to you and the family

Dont get me wrong this City team if they win 3rd title in row and also the CL, will go down as one of best in PL history due to what they have won in last 5 years.

However let look at the reality of this season.

Since Man city beat leicester they havent played a PL, So there is no pressure that they can apply to Arsenal.

In the mean time Arsenal played Liverpool, West ham and Southampton, so they way fixtures have been only 1 team can apply pressure here Arsenal as they are the ones playing.

If Man city had played West ham and Brighton there 2 games in hand at same time and say for example had won both of those, i can understand the issue that omg Man city keep winning and applying pressure.

Facts are Man city havent even been able to apply any pressure on Arsenal, Arsenal have tripped over there own feet near the finish line.
 
[MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] would you get rid of Arteta? If so, who would you replace him with?

No i wouldnt get rid of him Yet, but the club needs to ask serious questions of Arteta and Edu if we end trophyless this season.

That wont happen as the club shows no accountability for failure, add to that the club has very little ambition.

If anyone should be sacked should be Edu for failing to fill the gaps in sqaud adequately - his signings have been hit and miss in last few windows, the PL proven players good, the other ones crap.

I dont trust him to deliver any big signing in summer as hes already proven a failure in getting big deals done. As far as manager goes, another trophyless season next season and any more bottle jobs and he should be sacked as well.

United, Newcastle will be strong next season, Liverpool and Chelsea probably wont be in europe (which should help both sides concentrate on PL)

So even a top 4 place next season will be tough, let alone Arsenal challenging for title.

If i was Eddie Howe at newcastle id be getting your owners to ask them to put up the money for Tierney and ESR, Both likely to leave and will help improve your team even more.
 
No i wouldnt get rid of him Yet, but the club needs to ask serious questions of Arteta and Edu if we end trophyless this season.

That wont happen as the club shows no accountability for failure, add to that the club has very little ambition.

If anyone should be sacked should be Edu for failing to fill the gaps in sqaud adequately - his signings have been hit and miss in last few windows, the PL proven players good, the other ones crap.

I dont trust him to deliver any big signing in summer as hes already proven a failure in getting big deals done. As far as manager goes, another trophyless season next season and any more bottle jobs and he should be sacked as well.

United, Newcastle will be strong next season, Liverpool and Chelsea probably wont be in europe (which should help both sides concentrate on PL)

So even a top 4 place next season will be tough, let alone Arsenal challenging for title.

If i was Eddie Howe at newcastle id be getting your owners to ask them to put up the money for Tierney and ESR, Both likely to leave and will help improve your team even more.

Ah right okay, just earlier you were saying he deserves the sack

I get emotions are high but you are having a good season, way better than expected

It is important whatever the outcome he gets backed in the summer to further strengthen the squad

As for next season it's likely 5th will get you a CL spot so slightly less pressure from that perspective
 
No i wouldnt get rid of him Yet, but the club needs to ask serious questions of Arteta and Edu if we end trophyless this season.

That wont happen as the club shows no accountability for failure, add to that the club has very little ambition.

If anyone should be sacked should be Edu for failing to fill the gaps in sqaud adequately - his signings have been hit and miss in last few windows, the PL proven players good, the other ones crap.

I dont trust him to deliver any big signing in summer as hes already proven a failure in getting big deals done. As far as manager goes, another trophyless season next season and any more bottle jobs and he should be sacked as well.

United, Newcastle will be strong next season, Liverpool and Chelsea probably wont be in europe (which should help both sides concentrate on PL)

So even a top 4 place next season will be tough, let alone Arsenal challenging for title.

If i was Eddie Howe at newcastle id be getting your owners to ask them to put up the money for Tierney and ESR, Both likely to leave and will help improve your team even more.

You're ranting and raving but at the same time you don't seem to know very much.

Leaving Man City aside, have you seen the gap Arteta has created between Arsenal and the rest of the PL? Why all the negativity? You cannot legitimately compare Arsenal with City who have had the best of everything, yet here you are in April at the top of the league with about 13 settled first team players having only gotten rid of the deadwood 9 months ago.

The lack of ambition statement is also pretty ridiculous. Arteta has been backed in every window despite limited outgoings and a lack of Champions League income. It has been made clear through various media reports that there is a multi-year plan in place which is currently running ahead of schedule.

There have been some hits and misses in the transfer window but when you consider Arsenal have not yet spent more than £50m on a single player that is to be expected. A lot of the purchases namely Ramsdale, Trossard, White, Tomiyasu, Odegaard, Zinchenko and Jesus have been instrumental in Arsenal's sharp rise from 5th to 1st. Viera, Kiwior and others still have time on their side. The only flop really may be Lokonga who was captain of Anderlecht before he arrived but just couldn't fit into the system.

The Premier League is getting ridiculously competitive and Man City have created an unfortunate dynamic where in order to win in May you need to be close to perfect throughout the entire year. However putting Arteta's achievement into perspective he has done a very good job for you and i think you'll find most PL clubs are very envious of what Arsenal have achieved in a short space of time.
 
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You're ranting and raving but at the same time you don't seem to know very much.

Leaving Man City aside, have you seen the gap Arteta has created between Arsenal and the rest of the PL? Why all the negativity? You cannot legitimately compare Arsenal with City who have had the best of everything, yet here you are in April at the top of the league with about 13 settled first team players having only gotten rid of the deadwood 9 months ago.

The lack of ambition statement is also pretty ridiculous. Arteta has been backed in every window despite limited outgoings and a lack of Champions League income. It has been made clear through various media reports that there is a multi-year plan in place which is currently running ahead of schedule.

There have been some hits and misses in the transfer window but when you consider Arsenal have not yet spent more than £50m on a single player that is to be expected. A lot of the purchases namely Ramsdale, Trossard, White, Tomiyasu, Odegaard, Zinchenko and Jesus have been instrumental in Arsenal's sharp rise from 5th to 1st. Viera, Kiwior and others still have time on their side. The only flop really may be Lokonga who was captain of Anderlecht before he arrived but just couldn't fit into the system.

The Premier League is getting ridiculously competitive and Man City have created an unfortunate dynamic where in order to win in May you need to be close to perfect throughout the entire year. However putting Arteta's achievement into perspective he has done a very good job for you and i think you'll find most PL clubs are very envious of what Arsenal have achieved in a short space of time.

Most clubs are envious of what Arsenal have created in a short space of time? :)))

which clubs are these why dont you name them?
Also you talk about short space of time? Arteta has been in charge for 3.5 years, where would you expect a club to be after 3 half years?
He took over a club which finished 5th the previous season and got to a europa league final, so fans need to stop making out as though hes taken over some sort of relegation threatened team like Eddie howe as at newcastle.

When Arteta took over Arsenal were 6 points of CL spots, so not exactly miles off the pace. Spending 500 M+ on 20+ players and that supposedly a short space of time :)))

Also the lack of Ambition ok lets go back to Artetas 1st full season in charge and Edu was asked what the clubs target was an Edu didnt provided any targets for the league etc.. so how exactly is ambitious.

Then we got to the last season, after two 8th places finishes the club target was to get back into europe which you can do finishing 7th (Confrence league qaulification) so how exactly is that Ambition? the club bottled top 4 and the excuse was oh well we werent expected to finish top 4. Again loser mentality.

Then this season after 3.5 years in charge at a big club and the target is top 4? Any big club would be expecting to challenge for the league after 3.5 years of a manager being in place, so agin quite with this short space of time nonsense

According to the Media there is a project plan in place? :)))

Has any one seen this so called project plan? so what year on the plan are we suppose to win the PL or CL? And if we dont is anyone going to be made accountable? No they wont. Again just another PR spun load of **, So the club can hide behind a so called plan if they fail.

Next season will be the same if club fails, "oh according to project plan we were exepected to win"

Ask most United Fans etc.. if they sign 2 midfields and a world class striker if they are going to be waiting 3.5 years before they challenge for the league. Most big clubs expected returns after 3 years if a manager is still in charge.

Lakonga, Tavares, tomyassu (made of glass), Vieria have all been major flops, most of these mediocre transfers have meant Arsenal have or will have to use further funds to correct these mistakes, which means less money to spend on priority signings.

A lot more holes in sqaud should have been fixed now, but instead club has chosed to retain mediocre players like holding, Elneny, Nketiah etc.. in the sqaud rather then bring in better players.

Also i have mentioned Previously that Arsenal will never have a sqaud like Citys, no one will thats the reality of football, and thats always been the case in PL over different periods, there were times where United and Arsenal had miles better sqauds then the rest of the league.

How did liverpool manage to compete with Man city, they got their transfers spot over a 3 or 4 year period and they didnt have to break the bank initially. Thats the difference between someone like Michael edwards and Someone like Edu.

in the last TW Arsenal were after caicedo and refused to put in a 3rd bid because they didnt want to upset Brighton, where is the ambition there? are Arsenal trying to win a title or make friends.

Do you think Brighton care about relationships with clubs when they sign the best players from small foriegn clubs.

complete lack of Ambition, if the club wanted to push the boat out for certain players they would, instread they would keep penny pinching.

All this hype because a manager after 3.5 years is challenging for a title. Something which would be a bare minimum at Chelsea, United, Liverpool or Man city.
 
Ah right okay, just earlier you were saying he deserves the sack

I get emotions are high but you are having a good season, way better than expected

It is important whatever the outcome he gets backed in the summer to further strengthen the squad

As for next season it's likely 5th will get you a CL spot so slightly less pressure from that perspective

A Trophyless season is not a good season.

Also after leading the PL for most of the season and to bottle it in this fashion is not a good season.

All this nonsense about oh well the media and rival fans or Arsenal fans with low standards didnt expect Arsenal to challenge so over achieving is sucsess, Since when did the media become the yard stick for a clubs ambition.

Are josh kronke and Edu going and asking Neville, caragher, keane etc.. for what the clubs targets should be for the season. Lame excuse from most of Arsenal fan base which have basically accepted previous mediocrity as the norm.

I have seen people post online "oh well top 4 was target at start of season and League title was a bonus"

what sort of ******** backwards mentality is that, the whole point of elite sport is to win. You think anyone is going to look back in 10 years time and go oh remember that season when Arsenal went from 5th to 2nd.

Or people going to say remember when Man city equalled Uniteds PL record of 3 titles in a row?

As far as CL qualification from 5th place, i couldnt care less. CL qualification aint a trophy

Also lets be real pretty much since 2010 and even next season Arsenal will be in CL to make the numbers up, simple as that. This is a team and a manager who have been embarrassed by Villareal, Olympiakos and Sporting Lisbon.

Yet the whole fan base is getting gassed on CL qualification.

Im sure Bayern are hoping they get us in group stages next season so they can slap us 5-1 Home and away next season.

Most of the younger generation of Arsenal fans havent even seen team win league so they think Top 4 is some sort of medal of honour.

Ive Seen Arsenal win titles at Anfield, Old Trafford etc.. teams that had ambition

finally for all those saying teams cant compete with City etc...

Go back to the 1980s and look at liverpool and how dominant they were in the 80s (similar to what City are now) and George Graham came along and within 3 years built a team which took a title off liverpool and one 2 years later etc..

so 3 years is more than enough for any big club to go and challenge, so all this so called Arsenal werent expected to do this, that and other this season is for loser fans with no standards.
 
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AJ, please stop this.
You are ranting and raving whereas we all know that Arsenal have played some superb football this season.
You only have to go to the Emirates to see it and feel it.

I think one poster in particular, who came out with an absurd prediction, has got you all fired up and you seem to be stuck on the same trajectory when it comes to naming and shaming players.

So please just relax and keep your frustrations in check until at least this season is over and to end August by which time we'll know if we're going to challenge in the PL again and/or have a squad that is better prepared.
 
Arsenal fans are bottlers. They have been bottling it all season because they have no faith in their team yet the team continues to fight.

Arteta’s biggest achievement was not proving impatient fans like [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] wrong who wanted him sacked last season; his biggest achievement is ensuring the negativity of the fans doesn’t get to the players.

All season, the players have been fighting but the fans have been crapping their trousers. Even against Southampton, the bottlejobs headed for the exit door in the 85th minute while the players continued to fight and Odegaard, one of the great players in the world, produced one of the moments of the season while the bottlejobs were not even there to witness it in the stadium.

Even Leicester fans showed more bottle in 2016 than Arsenal fans have this season.
 
Those who are surprised by [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] need to remember that he was the most vocal critic of Arteta last season.

I will be bumping all his old posts in the Arteta thread next month, but he would tell us every day that Arteta is out of his depth and he should be sacked because he will not take Arsenal forward.

But here we are - Arsenal is challenging for the title in April 2023 only because of Arteta but for some people, personal agendas are more important than telling the truth.

It is hilarious how he blames Arteta for the last few games but doesn’t have the courage to admit that Arteta is the ONLY reason why arsenal are challenging for the title this season.
 
Arsenal fans are bottlers. They have been bottling it all season because they have no faith in their team yet the team continues to fight.

Arteta’s biggest achievement was not proving impatient fans like [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] wrong who wanted him sacked last season; his biggest achievement is ensuring the negativity of the fans doesn’t get to the players.

All season, the players have been fighting but the fans have been crapping their trousers. Even against Southampton, the bottlejobs headed for the exit door in the 85th minute while the players continued to fight and Odegaard, one of the great players in the world, produced one of the moments of the season while the bottlejobs were not even there to witness it in the stadium.

Even Leicester fans showed more bottle in 2016 than Arsenal fans have this season.

I admire your optimism Mamoon bhai but you need to understand Arsenal fans are scarred by serial disappointment for the past 15 years or so. It isn’t easy to just believe we are nailed on to win any competition even if we are in the best positions throughout the campaign.

Countless times, we have lost must win games that could seal our title. Countless times we have lost must win games that could secure our position in the top 4. Countless times we have lost must win games that could ensure we continue playing champion’s league football. Countless times we have failed to secure players that could have been the difference between us and those that are competing directly with us for the title, CL qualification etc

This is why throughout this year my main objective has been to secure CL first before dreaming of the title, and we still haven’t secured it yet brother, and we will have to wait at least another week post city game to ensure CL football is secure.

Please go easy on us Arsenal fans buddy, we have been scarred too much. As for Arteta,

Every manager is only as good as his last game in the premiership. Even I wasn’t in favour of signing a low profile manager and trusting him with the funds available because to me it was a declaration of accepting a par/slightly above par position in the league and competitions. Look at Chelsea, City, United and even Tottenham. When they sack a manager for poor performances, they go out there and get the best high profile name they possibly can and not take risks like Arsenal have been doing since Wenger’s ousting. Signing a guy like Ancelotti for example is a declaration of wanting to play CL football and wanting to compete in this competition.

That being said, Arteta has been brilliant with the players he has brought in and especially on the road where we haven’t lost as much as we did in the last few seasons.
 
:))) the guy that said title was in the bag is going to bump posts is he? The guy that changes his opinion every few months and has zero credibility.

Now all he is doing is clutching at straws with his fan boy Arteta rants, because after 3.5 years and spending 500 M he's doing what is expected at a big club. Even then he's bottling 2nd season running.

The club is called Arsenal football club.

Not "Arteta bottle job FC"

Because you've been humbled your merely ranting like some one with special needs.

Such a clueless fraud, who thinks that no other manager at club if they were on charge for 3.5 years could finally gey them into top 4.
 
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Those who are surprised by [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] need to remember that he was the most vocal critic of Arteta last season.

I will be bumping all his old posts in the Arteta thread next month, but he would tell us every day that Arteta is out of his depth and he should be sacked because he will not take Arsenal forward.

But here we are - Arsenal is challenging for the title in April 2023 only because of Arteta but for some people, personal agendas are more important than telling the truth.

It is hilarious how he blames Arteta for the last few games but doesn’t have the courage to admit that Arteta is the ONLY reason why arsenal are challenging for the title this season.

Only bottle job here is you and you clown predictions. Title is in the bag :)))

Now your idol Arteta has been show to be a novice clueless fraud. Just like the fraud you are with your clueless predictions.

Your celebrating progress after 3.5 years? Is that the normal expectation at a big club.

Your really do talk utter garbage.
 
As for Arteta,

Every manager is only as good as his last game in the premiership. Even I wasn’t in favour of signing a low profile manager and trusting him with the funds available because to me it was a declaration of accepting a par/slightly above par position in the league and competitions. Look at Chelsea, City, United and even Tottenham. When they sack a manager for poor performances, they go out there and get the best high profile name they possibly can and not take risks like Arsenal have been doing since Wenger’s ousting. Signing a guy like Ancelotti for example is a declaration of wanting to play CL football and wanting to compete in this competition.

Well said any Big club will expect there manager if they are still in a job to challenge for the league after 3 years or so.

Chelsea expect that straight away or manager is sacked

Man united will expect ETH to be challenging for title in his 2nd season

Liverpool and City expect their managers to challenge straight away.

At Arsenal a manager took over a club who finished 5th the season before and took them to pathetic lows of 8th and 8th. Now hes finally got up to a decent standard after 3.5 years and 500M+ spend and certain fans are wetting their underpants as though its some sort of achievement.

Anchelotti will get sacked by real This season because they havent won the league, even though he got 5 trophies last year, All big clubs have accountability accept at Arsenal where mediocrity is accepted with these owners, and manager.
 
Well said any Big club will expect there manager if they are still in a job to challenge for the league after 3 years or so.

Chelsea expect that straight away or manager is sacked

Man united will expect ETH to be challenging for title in his 2nd season

Liverpool and City expect their managers to challenge straight away.

At Arsenal a manager took over a club who finished 5th the season before and took them to pathetic lows of 8th and 8th. Now hes finally got up to a decent standard after 3.5 years and 500M+ spend and certain fans are wetting their underpants as though its some sort of achievement.

Anchelotti will get sacked by real This season because they havent won the league, even though he got 5 trophies last year, All big clubs have accountability accept at Arsenal where mediocrity is accepted with these owners, and manager.

Without a doubt Arsenal Manager job is one of the safest positions in world football. You can easily play out a 4 year agreement with average results and as long as the board are not forced their hand by the fans. They would honestly have kept Emery going if they could have
 
Without a doubt Arsenal Manager job is one of the safest positions in world football. You can easily play out a 4 year agreement with average results and as long as the board are not forced their hand by the fans. They would honestly have kept Emery going if they could have

The club has brain washed most of the fans to except mediocrity as the norm.

Since 2010 - Wenger pretty much made out that Top 4 was a trophy

2 Seasons ago - Edu was asked what the clubs target was, he gave no Answer

Last season - Edu said Target was get back into europe which you can do finishing 7th (That with a team which wasnt in europe and would be playing 1 game a week most of the season)

This season - Edu interview in July he said that the club wanted to win titles. Ghostddegard the captain said target was Top 4 and Europa as did other players. The fact the mediocre captain doesnt have ambition to win the title says it all. Then again this is a player who is use to mediocrity playing for his national team in norway.

If club ends season trophyless it will be ignore.

Emery wasnt the right man for Arsenal when he came in, Any manager coming after wenger would struggle. Same as Moyes did after fergie.

Arsenal board in 1st season gave Emery poor amount of transfer funds, his 2nd season they bought players he didnt want. (He wanted players like Zaha, Nkuku and he got pepe instead). Emery football wasnt sustainable and just a bad fit for the club.

On the flip side look at how quickly Emery has improved Aston Villa, he is a very good coach but sometimes certain coaches dont fit certain clubs.

If Arsenal dont win title this season or next season, just more excuses for failure will keep being made.
 
Without a doubt Arsenal Manager job is one of the safest positions in world football. You can easily play out a 4 year agreement with average results and as long as the board are not forced their hand by the fans. They would honestly have kept Emery going if they could have

Anyone coming after wenger would struggle, same happened to Moyes After Fergie.

Emery was given just 50 M to spend in his 1st season, 2nd season he wanted Zaha, Nkuku etc.. and he got given pepe etc..

so was always going to end in disaster.

Emery is doing a good job now at Villa and with some decent back will be a sucsess there. He just wasnt right fit for Arsenal.
 
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