Arsenal FC | 2022/23 Season

[Mamoon]

Stop lying. Rice has not rejected City, but West Ham rejected City's bid.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...it-bid-declan-rice-arsenal-west-ham-transfer/

Arsenal have now made a 3rd bid, and what was it you said above? Ahh yes - If the selling club doesn’t agree, the buyer club will walk away.

Arsenal walking away is it?

It is not that complicated, but perhaps it is for you. Let me help you.

- Rice has made it clear that he wants Arsenal not City.

- West Ham rejecting City’s bid is independent of Rice’s preference. If City make an acceptable bid, West Ham will accept.

- if City outbid Arsenal, Rice will have to choose between staying at West Ham and joining City. Obviously, he will choose City between the two. Just like how Mudryk agreed to go to Chelsea even though he wanted to join Arsenal.

- if both Arsenal and City have their bids accepted, it comes to down to Rice and Rice has made it clear that he wants Arsenal.

- If West Ham are foolish enough to reject £105m for Rice after dragging this deal for a month, Arsenal might or might not walk away depending on what their max evaluation of Rice is.

However, the chances of West Ham rejecting this offer are very low because no club, including City, is likely to match Arsenal’s offer. West Ham rejected Arsenal’s first two bids and City’s bid within hours.

Arsenal made their third almost 12 hours ago and since then, there hasn’t been a word from West Ham which means they are about to accept this bid.

 

[Mamoon]

Why is Pep going to cry over one player? They went after Kane previously and didn't get him, did it effect City? No

Are man city going to struggle if they don't get Rice? No, they could easily go and just get someone like De Jong from Barca etc...

You don’t even see the difference between the two situations.

Kane was eager to join City in 2021. Unlike Rice, he didn’t prefer to join another English club. The reason that moved failed to materialize was because Spurs rejected City’s offer.

It is one thing to have the club reject your offer but a completely different situation when the player himself makes it clear to you that you are not his first choice.

City made a weak bid for Rice and they are unlikely to match Arsenal’s third bid because they know that they don’t have a chance unless Arsenal walks away from the deal because if both City and Arsenal have their offers accepted by West Ham, Rice will go to Arsenal.

City has never found themselves in this situation before as far as English players are concerned. Grealish, Sterling, Walker, Stones, Phillips. All these players were twerking for City.

Rice wasn’t, even though City just won the treble. This is a massive L for City and huge for the English game.

 

[Mamoon]

Edu is employed by club to get transfers done as one of his tasks.

He's failed spectacularly to get big transfers done in past, now if in 1st time he gets one done certain posters are doing bhangra.

It's like a normal person doing their job to an incompetent level for years and then doing a good job for once.

That supposedly deserves a round of applause because someone has actually for 1st time done what they were suppose to.

Mamoon special if I ever saw it

Translation:

If Edu does his job, he should not be praised because he is doing his job.

If Edu fails to do his job, he should be criticized because he is not doing his job.

 

[Technics 1210]

It is not that complicated, but perhaps it is for you. Let me help you.

- Rice has made it clear that he wants Arsenal not City.

I understand the TG article is behind a paywall and you didn't read it, but I rather believe TG than you, who continues to make false claims in the absence of evidence.

Excerpt from the TG link, and read carefully.

It has long been assumed that Rice’s preference is to join Arsenal and that they remain the favourites. However, if the choice is to stay at West Ham or join Pep Guardiola’s treble winners, Rice is not likely to turn down the move to City.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Translation:

If Edu does his job, he should not be praised because he is doing his job.

If Edu fails to do his job, he should be criticized because he is not doing his job.

The fact of matter is edu previously hasn't done his job. What Big transfer did he previously get over the line.

Then again you like you hype up mediocrity.

 

[Amjid Javed]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] - if Arsenal get all their main transfer targets I expect a prediction from You in regards to where Arsenal will finish before the start of the season.

None of this top 2 garbage!

- All the excuses of Arsenal don't have money to spend compares to city
- it's a young team etc..
- it's phase 4 or 5 bull crap
- FA Cup, league Cup don't matter etc..

You have zero excuses now, no flip flops after a few months etc.. no dissapearing and going into hiding

Arsenal are going to have to get off to a flying start to the season, because by the time Man city turn up to the Emirates on match day 8. I expect Man city to have won pretty much all 7 of their fixture at start of season

Man city's fixtures

Burnley (A)
Newcastle (H)
Sheffield utd (A)
Fulham (H)
West ham (A)
Forrest (H)
Wolves (A)

Your prediction for where Arsenal will finish

Also how they will do vs Man city (home) and (away)

Let's see if your cowardice changes and you can stick to what you preach.

 

[MenInG]

BREAKING: Manchester City are pulling out of the race for Declan Rice from West Ham

 

[Amjid Javed]

BREAKING: Manchester City are pulling out of the race for Declan Rice from West Ham

only an hour late this time

 

[MenInG]

only an hour late this time ����

Haha - I have slow internet

 

[Kroll]

Rice is no loss for City, they brought that Kalvin Phillips to do the same job, should get more of an opportunity next season but they already have Rodri.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Haha - I have slow internet

you need a modern day Internet provider, not dial up.

 

[Amjid Javed]

This is the final point being discussed between Arsenal and West Ham for Declan Rice… ️️

◉ Arsenal offer to pay £100m fixed fee in four years.

◉ West Ham want £100m fixed fee to be paid in 18 months.

Talks progressing.

It’s very close — #AFC confident since yesterday. (Fabrizio Romano)

 

[Mamoon]

I understand the TG article is behind a paywall and you didn't read it, but I rather believe TG than you, who continues to make false claims in the absence of evidence.

Excerpt from the TG link, and read carefully.

It has long been assumed that Rice’s preference is to join Arsenal and that they remain the favourites. However, if the choice is to stay at West Ham or join Pep Guardiola’s treble winners, Rice is not likely to turn down the move to City.

Can you even read? )

That’s EXACTLY what I wrote. I don’t need to pay The Guardian when everyone knows what they are writing.

Rice wants to join Arsenal not City. However, if Arsenal had failed to agree a fee with West Ham and City were able to make an acceptable offer, Rice would obviously choose to join City over staying at West Ham.

This is LITERALLY what I wrote in my previous post. If you cannot read it’s not my problem, is it?

It is not that complicated, but perhaps it is for you. Let me help you.

- Rice has made it clear that he wants Arsenal not City.

- West Ham rejecting City’s bid is independent of Rice’s preference. If City make an acceptable bid, West Ham will accept.

- if City outbid Arsenal, Rice will have to choose between staying at West Ham and joining City. Obviously, he will choose City between the two. Just like how Mudryk agreed to go to Chelsea even though he wanted to join Arsenal.

- if both Arsenal and City have their bids accepted, it comes to down to Rice and Rice has made it clear that he wants Arsenal.

- If West Ham are foolish enough to reject £105m for Rice after dragging this deal for a month, Arsenal might or might not walk away depending on what their max evaluation of Rice is.

However, the chances of West Ham rejecting this offer are very low because no club, including City, is likely to match Arsenal’s offer. West Ham rejected Arsenal’s first two bids and City’s bid within hours.

Arsenal made their third almost 12 hours ago and since then, there hasn’t been a word from West Ham which means they are about to accept this bid.

 

[Mamoon]

Rice is no loss for City, they brought that Kalvin Phillips to do the same job, should get more of an opportunity next season but they already have Rodri.

City were ready to kick him out.

Rice is not a tool like Phillips who stalled his career. He was a talisman at Leeds and has barely been given any game time by Pep. Well at least he won the treble sitting on the bench.

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] - if Arsenal get all their main transfer targets I expect a prediction from You in regards to where Arsenal will finish before the start of the season.

None of this top 2 garbage!

- All the excuses of Arsenal don't have money to spend compares to city
- it's a young team etc..
- it's phase 4 or 5 bull crap
- FA Cup, league Cup don't matter etc..

You have zero excuses now, no flip flops after a few months etc.. no dissapearing and going into hiding

Arsenal are going to have to get off to a flying start to the season, because by the time Man city turn up to the Emirates on match day 8. I expect Man city to have won pretty much all 7 of their fixture at start of season

Man city's fixtures

Burnley (A)
Newcastle (H)
Sheffield utd (A)
Fulham (H)
West ham (A)
Forrest (H)
Wolves (A)

Your prediction for where Arsenal will finish

Also how they will do vs Man city (home) and (away)

Let's see if your cowardice changes and you can stick to what you preach.

Will get back to this later.

 

[Mamoon]

City have chickened out because they know that even if they match Arsenal’s offer, Rice will reject them.

Arsenal fans will never forget this. They will never forget that Rice snubbed the treble-winning Man City and Pep’s shiny bald head for Arsenal and Arteta.

He didn’t take the easy route to success and trophies like the other English players of his generation.

He has shown that he has more character than Grealish, Sterling, Walker, Stones and Phillips combined.

He is an Arsenal hero before he has kicked a ball. The English press cannot believe that an English player snubbed Man City for Arsenal but if they take their anti-Arsenal goggles off, this is great for the English game.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Will get back to this later.

5,000 wors essays aren't needed here

Final postion prediction:

Arsenal vs Man city (home and away prediction):

What is considered a failed season:

 

[Technics 1210]

Can you even read? )

No it is not.

Here is what you said - "Rice has made it clear that he wants Arsenal not City." And " if both Arsenal and City have their bids accepted, it comes to down to Rice and Rice has made it clear that he wants Arsenal"

Now read the DT quote, again. - Rice is not likely to turn down the move to City.

Now you have been shown up, again, when the evidence was asked for, and yet again, you are changing your tune.

There's a surprise!

 

[Technics 1210]

City have made fools of Arsenal! Rice is not worth 100M+, and Pep taught his past 'protégé' to learn another lesson - the difference between price and value!

No wonder Pep spent less than Arteta, and managed to win the treble, while Arsenal bottled the league!

)

 

[KingKhanWC]

£105 million for Declan Rice.

£60 million for Kai Havertz..

Mamoon prediction now.... Arsenal to win the CL and PL double. )

 

[Technics 1210]

£105 million for Declan Rice.

£60 million for Kai Havertz..

Mamoon prediction now.... Arsenal to win the CL and PL double. )

Arsenal have been fleeced in broad daylight by Man City!

No wonder Arsenal spent more than Man City under Pep, and still bottled the league.

)

 

[KingKhanWC]

Arsenal have been fleeced in broad daylight by Man City!

No wonder Arsenal spent more than Man City under Pep, and still bottled the league.

)

£240k a week for Rice & £210k a week for Havertz.

Chelsea were paying Havertz £150k a week for a player who is only known for his CL final goal but Gunners decided he's worth nearly £100k more.

Chelsea and City have trolled Arsenal. )

 

[topspin]

POTW right here, spot on Analysis

Pretty much Arsenal / Edu thought they could get a 20M discount off West ham and that West ham would wilt and accept 80M

West ham owners are Karen Brady and David sullivan, two people who have run successful businesses outside of football, the last thing they were going to do was under sell their maim asset

So Arsenal have had to pay a world record fee and mamoons wetting his underpants as though Arsenal have done over West ham

You certainly don't lower your flat fee bid from £80m to £75m without offering a player. I've never witnessed anything like this.

I wish Mamoon would address this but he's obviously a blind follower of Edu.

 

[MenInG]

BREAKING: Arsenal have agreed a £105m deal to sign West Ham captain Declan Rice

 

[topspin]

Yes, let me summarize this:

Any great signing that Arsenal makes is because of Arteta.

Any potential great signing that Arsenal miss out on is because of Edu.

You didn't summarise, you conveniently ignored my questions because you can't defend him for his incompetence.

Let's be real. No one joins Arsenal for Edu do they? They join us because they believe in Arteta's long-term project and his vision to develop them into better players and for him to mould them into a successful team.

Edu comes across as a fish out of water. Like honestly who goes out to make a successive bid that is actually lower than their initial offer? It wouldn't surprise me if Edu had forgotten what the first bid actually was for Rice. He went from £80m to £75m (without offering a player). That epitomises his incompetence.

In January, he was far too laid back and didn't understand the importance of this transfer window when we were 5 or 8 points in front of City. You have to show more urgency and do whatever it takes to win the club their first league in 20 years. Our lack of depth was never going to help us win anything. As someone who was part of our PL winning sides in the early 2000s, it's really baffling.

His first choice target in left wing midfield was Mudryk when it should've been Trossard. He doesn't know what he's doing.

If Edu is as great as you think he is, why can't we sell our players for the market rate? For e.g. if Balogun and Partey want to be sold, we should be getting 45 - 50m and 30-35m as a bare minimum (respectively). But we'll end up getting somewhere closer to half of their market value.

Edu has failed in the lead up to the acquisition of Rice because of the way he went about negotiating with West Ham and also because of the time it had taken to make the third bid. He was clearly pooping his pants.

It was like an unconvincing innings by a substandard batsman who was dropped five times before making his ton.

He's also made a howler with Havertz. Even if he turns out to be half-decent (which I doubt he will), he's paid around double the price for him when we could've easily bought him for a cut price had we waited.

Personally, I think we should've bought Kudus over Havertz. A far better player we could've acquired for less money.

And last but not least, you keep making it sound like Edu did wonders when he managed to sign Odegaard for £30m from Real Madrid. He was an unwanted player whose career was in decline. Fortunately for him, Arteta happened.

If Arsenal want to go forward, they must sack Edu and if it was up to me I would make him stand him in the middle of the pitch and announce his dismissal at half-time to give him a taste of his own medicine. He's done his fair share of humiliating the fans, so time to dish it back.

 

[Mamoon]

£105 million for Declan Rice.

£60 million for Kai Havertz..

Mamoon prediction now.... Arsenal to win the CL and PL double. )

I don't know if Arsenal will win the PL next season or not, but what I do know is that Arsenal will finish above Real Madrid's dog next season as well. Woof woof.

 

[Mamoon]

£240k a week for Rice & £210k a week for Havertz.

Chelsea were paying Havertz £150k a week for a player who is only known for his CL final goal but Gunners decided he's worth nearly £100k more.

Chelsea and City have trolled Arsenal. )

Arsenal are paying Havertz not for the player he was at Chelsea but for the player they believe he will be in Arteta's system.

The only people who have been trolled are Man City bootlickers and Arsenal haters who thought City would walk over Arsenal and sign Rice. They have smoke coming out of their ears.

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION]

I am not an Edu lover because I accept his shortcomings. Edu has done a really good job with incoming transfers but he has been poor at selling players. The last time Arsenal did a good job with selling players is when they rinsed Everton in the Iwobi deal in 2019. A deeply mediocre player like Iwobi was clearly not worth £40 million but that crook Raul did a great job in negotiating the terms with Everton.

Ever since Edu has taken charge of Arsenal's transfers, most of the players have been sold for peanuts.

The problem with Edu haters is that they refuse to give him any credit at all. They always have an explanation for why someone else or some other factors deserve credit not Edu.

It is not black or white. Edu has not been sent from the heavens and neither is he the spawn of the devil. The reality is that he is somewhere in between. He has done a more than decent job overall and has been able to construct a title-challenging squad.

Anyone who thinks Edu has had no role to play in Arsenal's revival is obviously a hater with an agenda.

Furthermore, we need to understand that there is no such thing as Edu's targets. Arteta is Arsenal's long-term manager and he is not going anywhere. The barking of impatient Arsenal fans and rival fans has absolutely no bearing on how Arteta is viewed internally.

At no point during his tenure as Arsenal coach has Arteta been remotely close to getting the sack. The media would manufacture stories at different points when Arsenal were struggling but they did not have a shred of truth.

This is why he was handed a new contract at a time when Arsenal had hit rock-bottom and people wanted his head on a stick.

The Arsenal board have been clear since day one: Arteta is the man to revive Arsenal and take them forward and the club would do everything within its power to back him. Piece by piece, brick by brick, Arsenal have been rebuilding the squad since 2020.

It has not been a revolution but an evolution. Revolutions don't always work as we saw with Chelsea who spent an insane amount of money in one window and only got worse.

Mudryk was never Edu's target. Edu doesn't have any targets. His only target is to deliver the players that Arteta wants. As I have explained many times, every buyer club puts a price on a player and they do not go beyond the max price if the seller club doesn't agree.

Arsenal did not think that Mudryk was worth the price Shakhtar was asking for and they walked away from that deal.

As far as the January window is concerned, overspending in January would have impacted Arsenal's plans for the summer. Declan Rice was always the prime target for the summer and the fact that Arsenal will be spending over £250 million in this window is no coincidence. This has been a carefully orchestrated plan and this is why the January window was compromised.

But the fans see things differently because they don't see the work that goes on behind the scenes and they are not aware of the long-term plans. In January, it was not public information that Arsenal will be splashing the cash in the summer and signing players for £100m. As a result, the fans reacted to what they saw, i.e. the club was appearing to lack urgency in the January window. It was lacking urgency because it was preparing for the summer.

Arsenal acted swiftly with Havertz because unlike Rice, Havertz had no clear preference for Arsenal. He just wanted to leave Chelsea and both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich were monitoring him. Arteta identified him as a key signing and it was a golden opportunity to get hold of him, hence they acted quickly.

On the other hand, Arsenal always held the cards in the Rice saga because he made it clear that Arsenal was his preferred destination. As I explained previously, no club offers its max price in the first bid because it becomes a 'take it or leave it' situation and the club loses negation power.

I am the Sporting Director of Club X and you are the Sporting Director of Club Y. You have a player that I want. You put a price of £100m on the player and my club agrees that they won't pay more than £100m for the said player.

If I make a £100m offer in the first bid, you now hold all the cards. I have no negotiating power anymore. If you say no, I will have to walk away from the deal.

On the contrary, if you ask for £100m and I start by offering £75m, there is a better chance that you will accept my £100m bid on the second or third attempt because now the deal is dragging out and you also have pending transfers that depend on getting this deal through, plus you are also creating unrest in the player's camp. This is all part of negotiating tactics.

Arsenal always had a fairly strong idea of the figure that West Ham would accept but you never offer that figure immediately. It doesn't work like that.

Man City also knew their bid was going to be binned, but they were waiting for Arsenal's third bid and they immediately walked away because they were not going to match it for a player who didn't want to join them in the first place. Meanwhile, Arsenal took its time to submit the third bid because they wanted to make an offer that City would not be able to better and that is exactly what happened. Arsenal blew City out of the water.

 

[Firebat]

Rice, Havertz and Timber potentially all done before pre season. Great start to the window, hopefully it's just a start.

Need to offload any extras like Xhaka Holding Nketiah etc. If Partey leaves, then another midfielder is needed. Convince Balogun to stay to offer another striking option, or sell him and buy another. Don't think we need to do much more than that.

 

[Mamoon]

City have made fools of Arsenal! Rice is not worth 100M+, and Pep taught his past 'protégé' to learn another lesson - the difference between price and value!

No wonder Pep spent less than Arteta, and managed to win the treble, while Arsenal bottled the league!

)

Pep spent more money than Arteta before this window, and he already had a title-winning squad when Arteta took over Arsenal while Arsenal were nowhere near good enough.

In spite of this, Arteta has closed the gap with Man City which simply shows the brilliant job that he is done. The anti-Arsenal media and the rival fans are foaming in their mouths and smoke is coming out of their ears because Arsenal bodied Man City in the Rice saga and the player made it clear that his preference was Arsenal.

An English player not twerking to join City is not something the English media is used to. The fact that the player's priority was Arsenal only makes them angrier.

 

[Mamoon]

No it is not.

Here is what you said - "Rice has made it clear that he wants Arsenal not City." And " if both Arsenal and City have their bids accepted, it comes to down to Rice and Rice has made it clear that he wants Arsenal"

Now read the DT quote, again. - Rice is not likely to turn down the move to City.

Now you have been shown up, again, when the evidence was asked for, and yet again, you are changing your tune.

There's a surprise!

Let me complete it for you.

Rice is not likely to turn down the move to City IF Arsenal fail to negotiate a deal with West Ham. In other words, sky is blue.

Rice does not hate City. If it comes to down to City and West Ham with Arsenal out of the equation, he will happily join City. I'm not sure what part is confusing you.

That is exactly what I said. The only way Rice joins City is if Arsenal fails to negotiate a deal with West Ham. As long as West Ham accepts Arsenal's bid, or accepts both Arsenal's and Man City's bid, Rice will pick Arsenal because he prefers Arsenal over City.

Man City have ran away because they know they that even if they match Arsenal's third bid, Rice will reject them.

There's a surprise - I agree, and a massive one.

The surprise is that an English player, born in Chelsea and made in West Ham has preferred to join Arsenal over City right after City won the treble and had its boots licked by the English media.

This is a historic moment for English football and has badly bruised City's ego and the anti-Arsenal contingent including the media and rival fans cannot stop seething. They are not used to seeing an English player of actual character unlike Grealish, Walker, Stones, Sterling, Phillips who wouldn't twerk to City.

 

[Mamoon]

5,000 wors essays aren't needed here

Final postion prediction:

Arsenal vs Man city (home and away prediction):

What is considered a failed season:

It is difficult to predict who will win the league between the two because a lot depends on different factors that you cannot take into consideration before a ball is kicked. For example, City lost Gundogan and although Kovacic is a very capable player, we don't know how he will respond to City's tactics. There is also a case of City losing a bit of hunger after achieving the treble. It has happened before to other clubs.

On the other hand, Arteta will also be fielding a vastly different team and they might need some time to gel properly.

What I can say with 100% assurance that Arsenal will be in the top two. They were already better than the remaining 18 teams before the window and based on this window so far, they have only increased the gap.

It is futile to predict what will happen in the H2H games. Brentford did the double over City but they are poles apart. The title is not decided on H2H games and regardless of whether Arsenal win or lose both games, they will be fighting for the title.

A failed season would be finishing outside the top two. There is no way Arsenal should be finishing below Liverpool, Chelsea, United, Newcastle and Spurs.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I don't know if Arsenal will win the PL next season or not, but what I do know is that Arsenal will finish above Real Madrid's dog next season as well. Woof woof.

No chance at all. But maybe you will get past the group stages in CL and maybe win the CL for the first time in history against Real .

On that point, Arsenal have NEVER won a European cup , not even Europa League. Do you predict European glory too next season?

Arsenal are paying Havertz not for the player he was at Chelsea but for the player they believe he will be in Arteta's system.

The only people who have been trolled are Man City bootlickers and Arsenal haters who thought City would walk over Arsenal and sign Rice. They have smoke coming out of their ears.

Its a huge amount of money for both midfielders inc huge wages. Imo both arent worth the amount paid.

Surely one proven goalscorer/striker is a must or is Arteta thinking he can do a Pep and win it without a no.9?

Give it six months Arteta will chop off hair to mimick Pep when he is struggling in both major competitions.

 

[IMMY69]

Even as an Arsenal fan, I'm begging g to enjoy this thread ��

 

[Kroll]

I predict Liverpool will finish above Arsenal next season.

 

[Punisher]

Congrats to Arsenal for getting Havertz. Let's see how it all unfolds though. Last season Arsenal went out of the cups and only had the league to focus on.

Next season, there will be CL games in addition to league and cups which will take its toll on players and don't forget last season Arsenal were lucky that apart from Jesus and in later stages Gabriel most of their players were injury free so if any of the first teamers get injured there will be a huge drop off in quality regardless.

Rice would be a quality signing but it wouldn't make sense to sign Rice and sell Partey and Xhaka as when Rice gets injured there would be no midfield enforcer - unless you want to put Sambi Lokonga there.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Even as an Arsenal fan, I'm begging g to enjoy this thread ��

We require some realistic thoughts.

Dont you think you need a striker or will Jesus be enough?

 

[Firebat]

Congrats to Arsenal for getting Havertz. Let's see how it all unfolds though. Last season Arsenal went out of the cups and only had the league to focus on.

Next season, there will be CL games in addition to league and cups which will take its toll on players and don't forget last season Arsenal were lucky that apart from Jesus and in later stages Gabriel most of their players were injury free so if any of the first teamers get injured there will be a huge drop off in quality regardless.

Rice would be a quality signing but it wouldn't make sense to sign Rice and sell Partey and Xhaka as when Rice gets injured there would be no midfield enforcer - unless you want to put Sambi Lokonga there.

Club sources all say that Rice takes Xhaka's spot in the squad, and if Partey is sold then another midfielder will be acquired to replace him (looks most likely at this stage to be Lavia).

Also, Havertz is envisioned by Arteta to play the left 8 position for us, which was Xhaka's role last year. They essentially want to turn Kai into a version of Gundogan.

 

[Abdullah]

City have chickened out because they know that even if they match Arsenal’s offer, Rice will reject them.

Arsenal fans will never forget this. They will never forget that Rice snubbed the treble-winning Man City and Pep’s shiny bald head for Arsenal and Arteta.

He didn’t take the easy route to success and trophies like the other English players of his generation.

He has shown that he has more character than Grealish, Sterling, Walker, Stones and Phillips combined.

He is an Arsenal hero before he has kicked a ball. The English press cannot believe that an English player snubbed Man City for Arsenal but if they take their anti-Arsenal goggles off, this is great for the English game.

Calm down. Great coup for Arsenal but City have always had a walk away price.
Maguire and Fred come to mind

 

[Amjid Javed]

Club sources all say that Rice takes Xhaka's spot in the squad, and if Partey is sold then another midfielder will be acquired to replace him (looks most likely at this stage to be Lavia).

Also, Havertz is envisioned by Arteta to play the left 8 position for us, which was Xhaka's role last year. They essentially want to turn Kai into a version of Gundogan.

havertz isn't fit to lace Gundogans boots

Gudogan was defensively excellent, not scared to dirty work, tracked back. Going forward scoring vital goals. Havertz has zero physical or defensive ability. His finishing is attriocious.

Maybe gudogan ordered from "wish"

 

[Amjid Javed]

It is difficult to predict who will win the league between the two because a lot depends on different factors that you cannot take into consideration before a ball is kicked. For example, City lost Gundogan and although Kovacic is a very capable player, we don't know how he will respond to City's tactics. There is also a case of City losing a bit of hunger after achieving the treble. It has happened before to other clubs.

On the other hand, Arteta will also be fielding a vastly different team and they might need some time to gel properly.

What I can say with 100% assurance that Arsenal will be in the top two. They were already better than the remaining 18 teams before the window and based on this window so far, they have only increased the gap.

It is futile to predict what will happen in the H2H games. Brentford did the double over City but they are poles apart. The title is not decided on H2H games and regardless of whether Arsenal win or lose both games, they will be fighting for the title.

A failed season would be finishing outside the top two. There is no way Arsenal should be finishing below Liverpool, Chelsea, United, Newcastle and Spurs.

It's called a pre-season prediction stop being a coward.

No one else changes there predictions every month.

Clearly shows you have zero confidence in what you actually ramble on about.

Which is it? 1st or 2nd?

 

[Mamoon]

Calm down. Great coup for Arsenal but City have always had a walk away price.
Maguire and Fred come to mind

City could have easily matched Arsenal’s offer but they had no confidence in themselves because they got snubbed by Rice. It is a huge L for City and their bootlickers in the media.

 

[Mamoon]

No chance at all. But maybe you will get past the group stages in CL and maybe win the CL for the first time in history against Real .

On that point, Arsenal have NEVER won a European cup , not even Europa League. Do you predict European glory too next season?



Its a huge amount of money for both midfielders inc huge wages. Imo both arent worth the amount paid.

Surely one proven goalscorer/striker is a must or is Arteta thinking he can do a Pep and win it without a no.9?

Give it six months Arteta will chop off hair to mimick Pep when he is struggling in both major competitions.

Winning the UCL would be unrealistic next season. There are better sides than Arsenal in Europe with more experience.

Arsenal just got back into the competition and the short-term goal is to make an impact in the competition next season.

Of course, winning the UCL is part of the bigger plan. Arsenal have made a huge statement by bodying Man City in the race to sign Rice and spending £100m on him.

People didn’t think Arsenal had it in them to spend so much money. They are rattled. The message from Arsenal is loud and clear: last season wasn’t an anomaly and the ambition is to reestablish Arsenal as a powerhouse.

Arteta has built a squad full of young players with their best years still ahead of him. They have been very clear about the players they have targeted this summer and their financial position is very healthy.

You think Rice and Havertz are not worth the money, but you also thought Arsenal won’t have the money to spend £100m on Rice after signing Havertz, so I won’t listen to you - you clearly don’t have a clue.

Arsenal will finish above Liverpool next season as well. I hope PP is back so that I can tag you after MW 38.

 

[Rana]

Winning the UCL would be unrealistic next season. There are better sides than Arsenal in Europe with more experience.

Arsenal just got back into the competition and the short-term goal is to make an impact in the competition next season.

Of course, winning the UCL is part of the bigger plan. Arsenal have made a huge statement by bodying Man City in the race to sign Rice and spending £100m on him.

People didn’t think Arsenal had it in them to spend so much money. They are rattled. The message from Arsenal is loud and clear: last season wasn’t an anomaly and the ambition is to reestablish Arsenal as a powerhouse.

Arteta has built a squad full of young players with their best years still ahead of him. They have been very clear about the players they have targeted this summer and their financial position is very healthy.

You think Rice and Havertz are not worth the money, but you also thought Arsenal won’t have the money to spend £100m on Rice after signing Havertz, so I won’t listen to you - you clearly don’t have a clue.

Arsenal will finish above Liverpool next season as well. I hope PP is back so that I can tag you after MW 38.

Arsenal can go to the Semis as long as their fixtures are favourable

Top your group and then hope for a couple of easy second round and QF fixtures. Avoid Barcelona, Madrid and Bayern until Semis

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arsenal can go to the Semis as long as their fixtures are favourable

Top your group and then hope for a couple of easy second round and QF fixtures. Avoid Barcelona, Madrid and Bayern until Semis

Arteta couldn't even handle the europa league, literally the smallest teams in the CL will be praying they get Arsenal in their group so they can school them. We saw how sporting Lisbon and Brighton (2 technically good sides) took Arsenal apart at end of last season. Most teams in CL are technically good and Arsensl are in for a huge wake up call in CL

 

[Mamoon]

Arsenal can go to the Semis as long as their fixtures are favourable

Top your group and then hope for a couple of easy second round and QF fixtures. Avoid Barcelona, Madrid and Bayern until Semis

The goal is to show that you are ready for that level. You don’t need to win the UCL or make the semifinals to show your caliber.

Arsenal must compete. Those 10-2 thrashings at the hands of Bayern back in 2017 when Arsenal were last in the UCL must be avoided at all costs.

There is no shame in losing to the likes of Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, PSG etc. but you have to take the game to them.

Nonetheless, Arsenal are shaping up beautifully and they will rinse a lot of teams in the UCL next season. Certain Arsenal “fans” with rotten tomatoes on their faces are praying and hoping for a capitulation so that they can lash on Arteta and Edu but their prayers will not be answered.

 

[Rana]

The goal is to show that you are ready for that level. You don’t need to win the UCL or make the semifinals to show your caliber.

Arsenal must compete. Those 10-2 thrashings at the hands of Bayern back in 2017 when Arsenal were last in the UCL must be avoided at all costs.

There is no shame in losing to the likes of Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, PSG etc. but you have to take the game to them.

Nonetheless, Arsenal are shaping up beautifully and they will rinse a lot of teams in the UCL next season. Certain Arsenal “fans” with rotten tomatoes on their faces are praying and hoping for a capitulation so that they can lash on Arteta and Edu but their prayers will not be answered.

Tbh I recon Arsenal won’t struggle against PSG or Juventus for that matter as much as I believe they would against seasoned CL competitors like Madrid and Bayern. We will most likely get knocked out by City as well if we cross paths with them

We still need an apex striker to give ourselves the best chance. Jesus isn’t the answer. There is no point in qualifying for this grand tournament if you are not going to have the tools to compete and win it.

 

[Rana]

Arteta couldn't even handle the europa league, literally the smallest teams in the CL will be praying they get Arsenal in their group so they can school them. We saw how sporting Lisbon and Brighton (2 technically good sides) took Arsenal apart at end of last season. Most teams in CL are technically good and Arsensl are in for a huge wake up call in CL

Arteta has a much better team now and no reason to not compete. They’ve just splashed £175M+ on two first team starters.

I hope the transfer window isn’t done. We still need to splash another £70M+ on a proven goal scorer. Jesus isn’t going to do this job for us

 

[Rana]

Jesus for me is on par with Eduardo. A lot of promise and class, but he just isn’t that guy who is on the level of Henry or RVP. We need that kind of player, we are missing our Hitman!

 

[Mamoon]

Arteta and Edu have changed the complexion of this football club. Since joining the club in 2019, they have slowly and gradually rebuild the club through smart acquisitions and player development.

It was a slow and difficult process, but now Arsenal is finally at a position where they can really kick on and take it to the next level. Arsenal is on the brink of great things again.

They have a core of wonderfully talented young players on long-term contracts with no attitude problems and who want to play for this shirt. There are no troublemakers and egos in the dressing room and Arteta’s has everyone’s respect.

In addition, they are now capable of spending massive amounts of money on the players that they want.

The signing of Declan Rice is more than just an acquisition of a top player; it is a power statement. It is a statement of intent. A clear message to the rest of the world that a new era has started at Arsenal.

Since the move to the Emirates in 2006, this is by far the best moment for Arsenal. The best period to be an Arsenal fan. The future is incredibly exciting.

If you cannot see what Arteta and Edu are building and the direction the club is going in, you are either blind or your agenda and hatred are too strong.

The genuine Arsenal fans with no agenda are extremely pleased with what is happening and where the club is going. In spite of the disappointing finish last season, the excitement and the energy have not wavered because they can see the bigger picture.

Arsenal is on the cusp of something special and Arteta and Edu deserve full credit for orchestrating this revival. May their partnership long continue and may the haters continue to burn.

 

[Rana]

Man I miss a striker like Robin Van Persie so much. What a player he was!

He used to create chances from some of the most difficult positions up front with Defenders surround him! Perfect set piece specialist too. He has God gifted left foot as well, if he struck it well with his left, it was a guaranteed goal! Aerial threat, you name it! Peak RVP would be worth £150m+ in today’s market

 

[Rana]

“The signing of Declan Rice is more than just an acquisition of a top player; it is a power statement. It is a statement of intent. A clear message to the rest of the world that a new era has started at Arsenal.”

Agree with this. Arsenal finally breaking the bank on top class English players the way City, Chelsea, United and Liverpool have in the past. This was clearly missing as Arsenal were more on the hunt to make their own English stars.

I also recon City would have gone for him with full force if they knew Rice was interested.

 

[Mamoon]

Tbh I recon Arsenal won’t struggle against PSG or Juventus for that matter as much as I believe they would against seasoned CL competitors like Madrid and Bayern. We will most likely get knocked out by City as well if we cross paths with them

We still need an apex striker to give ourselves the best chance. Jesus isn’t the answer. There is no point in qualifying for this grand tournament if you are not going to have the tools to compete and win it.

No striker will be signed this summer. Perhaps next summer depending on how the forward line performs this season.

The pressing priority was strengthening defense and midfield and that has been taken care of already, considering that Jurrien Timber is almost a done deal.

It is great to have a prolific striker but a functioning system is better than pinning all your hopes on your striker to bail you out. For example, Spurs have had Kane banging goals for them for years but they haven’t been able to build a system that works.

Jesus is not a prolific striker but he is part of the group comprising of numerous players who are capable of scoring 10+ goals a season.

Jesus, Saka, Martinelli and Odegaard collectively compensate for a lack of 25-30 goals striker. Havertz will also score similar number of goals in Arsenal’s system.

There are very few teams in Europe that have as many goal scoring options as Arsenal. Most of the sides with prolific number 9s are over-reliant on their goals.

Last season, City scored only 6 more goals than Arsenal in the league while Haaland (36) scored 21 more goals than Arsenal’s top scorers: Martinelli and Odegaard (15 each).

 

[Mamoon]

“The signing of Declan Rice is more than just an acquisition of a top player; it is a power statement. It is a statement of intent. A clear message to the rest of the world that a new era has started at Arsenal.”

Agree with this. Arsenal finally breaking the bank on top class English players the way City, Chelsea, United and Liverpool have in the past. This was clearly missing as Arsenal were more on the hunt to make their own English stars.

I also recon City would have gone for him with full force if they knew Rice was interested.

Rice has shown more character than all other English players combined, who took the easy route to success by joining City and picking up cheap trophies.

Rice will be part of the Arsenal team that topples City and ends their reign. Arsenal fans will never forget that he choose Arsenal over City. He will be a cult hero at Arsenal.

A proper Londoner rejected by Chelsea, made in West Ham who ends up joining the biggest club in London to take on City’s oil empire. It is beautiful.

City have been rejected in the past (Van Dijk) but this is the first time they have been snubbed by an English player. It must have hurt their egos because they are accustomed to English players twerking for them.

The only other English player they bid for but failed to sign is Kane, but Kane never expressed his preference for another English club; City failed to agree a fee with Levy.

What Rice did was a new experience for City, something they didn’t expect especially after they achieved the treble and their egos massaged by the English media.

Rice choosing Arsenal over City is giving a lot of people severe heartburn.

 

[Rana]

No striker will be signed this summer. Perhaps next summer depending on how the forward line performs this season.

The pressing priority was strengthening defense and midfield and that has been taken care of already, considering that Jurrien Timber is almost a done deal.

It is great to have a prolific striker but a functioning system is better than pinning all your hopes on your striker to bail you out. For example, Spurs have had Kane banging goals for them for years but they haven’t been able to build a system that works.

Jesus is not a prolific striker but he is part of the group comprising of numerous players who are capable of scoring 10+ goals a season.

Jesus, Saka, Martinelli and Odegaard collectively compensate for a lack of 25-30 goals striker. Havertz will also score similar number of goals in Arsenal’s system.

There are very few teams in Europe that have as many goal scoring options as Arsenal. Most of the sides with prolific number 9s are over-reliant on their goals.

Last season, City scored only 6 more goals than Arsenal in the league while Haaland (36) scored 21 more goals than Arsenal’s top scorers: Martinelli and Odegaard (15 each).

I would agree that they are 99.9% not going to go for another striker but you do realise it is one of the missing jigsaw pieces of the puzzle. Arsenal would not have dropped those crucial points at the back end of the season if they had that reliable front man. It’s just that one important and final step that could be make or break.

If you look at all the top clubs in Europe, the CF position is one position they do not mess around with. They must, MUST have a proven clinical goal scorer.

City started their dominance in the PL with Aguero as their main man, and as soon as he was done they didn’t trust their number 2s (Jesus and Ignacho) to take over, they went out and got the best they could in Haaland. Regardless of how good your defence and midfield is, you can’t have a 50-50 with chances guy up front with clubs at this level.

 

[Rana]

Rice has shown more character than all other English players combined, who took the easy route to success by joining City and picking up cheap trophies.

Rice will be part of the Arsenal team that topples City and ends their reign. Arsenal fans will never forget that he choose Arsenal over City. He will be a cult hero at Arsenal.

A proper Londoner rejected by Chelsea, made in West Ham who ends up joining the biggest club in London to take on City’s oil empire. It is beautiful.

City have been rejected in the past (Van Dijk) but this is the first time they have been snubbed by an English player. It must have hurt their egos because they are accustomed to English players twerking for them.

The only other English player they bid for but failed to sign is Kane, but Kane never expressed his preference for another English club; City failed to agree a fee with Levy.

What Rice did was a new experience for City, something they didn’t expect especially after they achieved the treble and their egos massaged by the English media.

Rice choosing Arsenal over City is giving a lot of people severe heartburn.

Arteta is kind of reminding me of Tom Cruise’s Jerry McGuire character. He seems to have won a lot of hearts and admiration of English press and PL players. It’s a bit like the climax scene when the player at the end of the movie wanted Jerry to represent him instead of his own agent

 

[Amjid Javed]

Jesus for me is on par with Eduardo. A lot of promise and class, but he just isn’t that guy who is on the level of Henry or RVP. We need that kind of player, we are missing our Hitman!

Jesus is no where near as good as eduardo (before his leg break. Arsenal would have won the league that season if he didn't get injured. Eduardo could have easily been as good as RVP or even davor suker. Jesus all round game is good, but his finishing is atrocious.

Along with Eddie and havertz, stats wise Arsenal have the 3 out of top 5 worst finishers in the PL now.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arteta is kind of reminding me of Tom Cruise’s Jerry McGuire character. He seems to have won a lot of hearts and admiration of English press and PL players. It’s a bit like the climax scene when the player at the end of the movie wanted Jerry to represent him instead of his own agent

Anyone would think Arteta won the treble last season the way mamoon does non stop bhangra over zero achievements.

 

[Amjid Javed]

The goal is to show that you are ready for that level. You don’t need to win the UCL or make the semifinals to show your caliber.

Arsenal must compete. Those 10-2 thrashings at the hands of Bayern back in 2017 when Arsenal were last in the UCL must be avoided at all costs.

There is no shame in losing to the likes of Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, PSG etc. but you have to take the game to them.

Nonetheless, Arsenal are shaping up beautifully and they will rinse a lot of teams in the UCL next season. Certain Arsenal “fans” with rotten tomatoes on their faces are praying and hoping for a capitulation so that they can lash on Arteta and Edu but their prayers will not be answered.

Only fan with rotten tomatoes on their face is you after your "it's in the bag" comment last season.

The fact your not using same bravdo again yet. Shows your still eating humble pie.

 

[Firebat]

���� havertz isn't fit to lace Gundogans boots

Gudogan was defensively excellent, not scared to dirty work, tracked back. Going forward scoring vital goals. Havertz has zero physical or defensive ability. His finishing is attriocious.

Maybe gudogan ordered from "wish"

��

Lol, according to who?

Defensive actions is literally the one area where Havertz matches Gundogan. Tackles, pressing, clearances, aerial+ground duels, challenges lost, blocks; these are all stats where Havertz has similar or superior numbers to Gundo across the last 365 days.

Focus on the attacking part where you actually have a point, it will lend the arguments more credibility. And I eagerly await your “Havertz fan boy Firebat thinks Kai is better than Kaka” rant

 

[MenInG]

Positive talks continue over Timber

Positive talks continue between Arsenal and Ajax over the signing of defender Jurrien Timber.

One source has claimed the clubs are getting closer to an agreement on price.

The player’s personal terms are not expected to be a problem and he wants to join.

 

[IMMY69]

We require some realistic thoughts.

Dont you think you need a striker or will Jesus be enough?

Of course I would love someone who can get you 20-25 goals. I said before Jesus joined that he won't score enough goals but he brings so much else to the table and frees up our midfield to score goals.
In Martinelli, Sakha and Odeguard & Troussard we have enough goals in this team.

I think we've had a very good start to this transfer window.

Rice was always my first pick and glad we finally got him. Did we pay too much? Yes probably, but then if we lost him to someone else then some fans here would be saying we dithered around and couldn't get the deal over the line. I see Rice as a box to box number 8 and he would slot right in to Xhaka's role very nicely. He's PL ready, a leader on the pitch and touchwood not injury prone like Partey. Plus he's still young and with good coaching will only get better.

If we can get Timber over the line then its already been a superb window for us.

 

[Mamoon]

havertz isn't fit to lace Gundogans boots

Gudogan was defensively excellent, not scared to dirty work, tracked back. Going forward scoring vital goals. Havertz has zero physical or defensive ability. His finishing is attriocious.

Maybe gudogan ordered from "wish"

Thank you for exposing the fact that you didn’t watch Havertz last season. His defensive work rate was great and this is one of the reasons why Arteta believes he is the right player for the #8 role.

He does all the things you accuse him of not doing (doing the dirty work, tracking back etc.) because you don’t watch him play.

He is 6 feet 4 inches tall and apparently he doesn’t have physical ability. Genius. )

 

[Mamoon]

Jesus is no where near as good as eduardo (before his leg break. Arsenal would have won the league that season if he didn't get injured. Eduardo could have easily been as good as RVP or even davor suker. Jesus all round game is good, but his finishing is atrocious.

Along with Eddie and havertz, stats wise Arsenal have the 3 out of top 5 worst finishers in the PL now.

Eduardo had a very good potential but he was never going to be at RVP’s level. RVP’s all-round game and physical presence were far superior to Eduardo’s.

Eduardo was a very good but he didn’t have the attributes to be a long-term, first choice striker for Arsenal. Only reason he played so frequently in 2007-08 was because of RVP’s injuries.

He was a great backup option though, there is no doubt he would have had a very decent career if it wasn’t for that fateful afternoon in Birmingham.

 

[Kroll]

Thank you for exposing the fact that you didn’t watch Havertz last season. His defensive work rate was great and this is one of the reasons why Arteta believes he is the right player for the #8 role.

He does all the things you accuse him of not doing (doing the dirty work, tracking back etc.) because you don’t watch him play.

He is 6 feet 4 inches tall and apparently he doesn’t have physical ability. Genius. )

He's an Arsenal fan, why would he want to watch Havertz especially Chelsea?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Lol, according to who?

Defensive actions is literally the one area where Havertz matches Gundogan. Tackles, pressing, clearances, aerial+ground duels, challenges lost, blocks; these are all stats where Havertz has similar or superior numbers to Gundo across the last 365 days.

Focus on the attacking part where you actually have a point, it will lend the arguments more credibility. And I eagerly await your “Havertz fan boy Firebat thinks Kai is better than Kaka” rant

Stats can be dressed up as much as you want, eye test tells you a lot more. Pretty much every Chelsea fan will tell you havertz doesn't tackle, track back etc..

A left side of Havertz / Zinchenko will be conceding a lot more goals then Arsenal did last season.

Already sounds like your a Kai fan boy

 

[Mamoon]

He's an Arsenal fan, why would he want to watch Havertz especially Chelsea?

It is best not to make blanket statements about players you haven’t watched. It only makes you look foolish.

“Havertz doesn’t have defensive work rate” is an incredibly ignorant take because his defensive work rate has never been a problem and it is one of the major reasons why Arteta views him as a midfielder.

 

[Mamoon]

Stats can be dressed up as much as you want, eye test tells you a lot more. Pretty much every Chelsea fan will tell you havertz doesn't tackle, track back etc..

A left side of Havertz / Zinchenko will be conceding a lot more goals then Arsenal did last season.

Already sounds like your a Kai fan boy

Which you have failed with flying colors. If you actually watched Havertz play, you wouldn’t need stats to know that he has high defensive work rate.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Thank you for exposing the fact that you didn’t watch Havertz last season. His defensive work rate was great and this is one of the reasons why Arteta believes he is the right player for the #8 role.

He does all the things you accuse him of not doing (doing the dirty work, tracking back etc.) because you don’t watch him play.

He is 6 feet 4 inches tall and apparently he doesn’t have physical ability. Genius. )

Just because someone is 6ft 4 doesn't mean they are naturally physical once again shows how dumb you are. Havertz is skinny as they come and his Ariel ability is atrocious.

I watched plenty of Chelsea games last season as my best friend is a Chelsea fan and we discuss Chelsea and Arsenal performances every game. So I'd rather take the word of a Chelsea fan over a numpty like you.

Even most Chelsea fans who speak on line say havertz is rubbish defensively.

Oh but wait let me guess, while you "were busy hiding like a coward," you were watching every minute of every single Chelsea game last season"

You really do fabricate and talk .

Arteta personally wanted fabio Vieira because supposedly he could play in multiple positions was the next bernado Silva / Luis Figo.

Stop doing bhangra over mediocrity. Any one would think you were talking about some sort of proven world class manager they way you go on about Arteta.

3 seasons running EL, top 4 and title bottled because on one game plan, poor squad management, team rotation and in game management.

Wenger, George Graham, Herbert Chapman to name 3 are better then Arteta but your the thar thinks Arteta will get a statue

A statue for being a bottle job manager?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Which you have failed with flying colors. If you actually watched Havertz play, you wouldn’t need stats to know that he has high defensive work rate.

Let me guess while you were "busy wiping egg and rotten tomatoes of your face" you were watching every single Chelsea game last season were you?

Multi-taskinc hey between 24 hr worship or arteta and you decided to switch TV to watch Chelsea as you wanted to watch havertz play, I can smell the a mile off

 

[Amjid Javed]

He's an Arsenal fan, why would he want to watch Havertz especially Chelsea?

Don't worry Mamoon managed to watch every single Chelsea game last season as he tuned in just to watch havertz

I watched quite a bit of Chelsea games last year, as my mate is a Chelsea fan and we always catch up when the two teams play and also discuss both teams.

Even had discussions today as my mate things Chelsea won't make it higher then 7th.

Mamoon has time to watch every single Portuguese, German, Dutch, la liga, PL, series A game, work and also wipe tomatoes and eggs off his face.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Thank you for exposing the fact that you didn’t watch Havertz last season. His defensive work rate was great and this is one of the reasons why Arteta believes he is the right player for the #8 role.

He does all the things you accuse him of not doing (doing the dirty work, tracking back etc.) because you don’t watch him play.

He is 6 feet 4 inches tall and apparently he doesn’t have physical ability. Genius. )

I'm sure if Arsenal were linked with Harry maguire or Scott mctominay, all of sudden you would be telling everyone uve watched every united game last season

Then ud be writing 1000 word essays on how Arteta would turn maguire into prime Bobby Charlton and mctominay into prime sourness / Daglish

 

[Kroll]

So what's the prediction or "decree" [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] for next season where Arsenal will finish? [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] [MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION] [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] [MENTION=491]IMMY69[/MENTION] [MENTION=138771]Firebat[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=137997]Abdullah[/MENTION] [MENTION=18398]IAJ[/MENTION] [MENTION=146270]WengerOut[/MENTION] [MENTION=138670]The_KING[/MENTION] [MENTION=116]Geordie Ahmed[/MENTION] [MENTION=149166]Technics 1210[/MENTION] [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=39031]SpiritOf1903[/MENTION] anyone else I've missed feel free to post your prediction.

 

[Amjid Javed]

So what's the prediction or "decree" [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] for next season where Arsenal will finish? [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] [MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION] [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] [MENTION=491]IMMY69[/MENTION] [MENTION=138771]Firebat[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=137997]Abdullah[/MENTION] [MENTION=18398]IAJ[/MENTION] [MENTION=146270]WengerOut[/MENTION] [MENTION=138670]The_KING[/MENTION] [MENTION=116]Geordie Ahmed[/MENTION] [MENTION=149166]Technics 1210[/MENTION] [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=39031]SpiritOf1903[/MENTION] anyone else I've missed feel free to post your prediction.

Every one has to give an actually position 1st, 2nd etc..

None of this we will finish above Liverpool, United, Arsenal nonsense.

 

[Rana]

So what's the prediction or "decree" [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] for next season where Arsenal will finish? [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] [MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION] [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] [MENTION=491]IMMY69[/MENTION] [MENTION=138771]Firebat[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=137997]Abdullah[/MENTION] [MENTION=18398]IAJ[/MENTION] [MENTION=146270]WengerOut[/MENTION] [MENTION=138670]The_KING[/MENTION] [MENTION=116]Geordie Ahmed[/MENTION] [MENTION=149166]Technics 1210[/MENTION] [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=39031]SpiritOf1903[/MENTION] anyone else I've missed feel free to post your prediction.

Probably 2nd again

Unless we get that 25+ Season goal striker

 

[Kroll]

I'll go for 5th.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I'll go for 5th.

5th For Liverpool?

 

[Kroll]

5th For Liverpool? ��

I am hoping Liverpool finish top four but I suspect they will be main title challengers again so I'll plump for 2nd.

Not much is being said about them but I think Spurs could make a fist of it especially if Kane stays. Ange is known for aggressive attacking football which could make them a dark horse.

Top four I think will be City, Liverpool, United and Spurs. Should be a good fight though with Arsenal, Newcastle and Chelsea eyeing the top four as well.

 

[IMMY69]

So what's the prediction or "decree" [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] for next season where Arsenal will finish? [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] [MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION] [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] [MENTION=491]IMMY69[/MENTION] [MENTION=138771]Firebat[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=137997]Abdullah[/MENTION] [MENTION=18398]IAJ[/MENTION] [MENTION=146270]WengerOut[/MENTION] [MENTION=138670]The_KING[/MENTION] [MENTION=116]Geordie Ahmed[/MENTION] [MENTION=149166]Technics 1210[/MENTION] [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=39031]SpiritOf1903[/MENTION] anyone else I've missed feel free to post your prediction.

Its going to be a tough season with Liverpool licking their wounds, Chelsea inevitably getting their act together and with Newcastle also in the mix for a top 4 finish.

I always back my team but it's only going to get harder to finish in the top 4 let alone pushing City off it's perch.
So I'm a realistic fan, hoping for the best.

 

[Firebat]

So what's the prediction or "decree" [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] for next season where Arsenal will finish? [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] [MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION] [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] [MENTION=491]IMMY69[/MENTION] [MENTION=138771]Firebat[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=137997]Abdullah[/MENTION] [MENTION=18398]IAJ[/MENTION] [MENTION=146270]WengerOut[/MENTION] [MENTION=138670]The_KING[/MENTION] [MENTION=116]Geordie Ahmed[/MENTION] [MENTION=149166]Technics 1210[/MENTION] [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=39031]SpiritOf1903[/MENTION] anyone else I've missed feel free to post your prediction.

2nd. UCL final 8 too.