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MK7Z said:
100% good riddance. Was pathetic at his job. Took him weeks to close any deal
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Only my opinion but I think 1 of two things has happened here

- Arteta has complained about players his been given and Edus recruitment in summer
- owners have seen sense for once and maybe we're going to make someone accountable for once, Edu has jumped before he was sacked. We saw this with wenger leaving early (when we all know the club were sacking him).
 
Amjid Javed said:
Only my opinion but I think 1 of two things has happened here

- Arteta has complained about players his been given and Edus recruitment in summer
- owners have seen sense for once and maybe we're going to make someone accountable for once, Edu has jumped before he was sacked. We saw this with wenger leaving early (when we all know the club were sacking him).
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Whatever the reason, its a good day for Arsenal Football Club :)
 
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Klopp was second highest earner on 15M before he retired from the Liverpool job.
Ten Haag would have been third prior to his sacking...

Being a manager of a top 6 team pays well it seems :)
 
IMMY69 said:
That figure surprised me too so I googled it.

Pep is by far the highest earner followed by Arteta who is on 10m and then, this really surprised me, Unai Emery is in third place...
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Even 10M a year, for a manager that's achieved nothing.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Even 10M a year, for a manager that's achieved nothing.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I think other then Pep, none of the other managers deserve so much.
But when you see Unai earning 8M then you have to just put it down to market forces.

I suppose anyone that comes to Arsenal, whether no matter their experience, is going to get 8-10m
 
IMMY69 said:
Oh don't get me wrong, I think other then Pep, none of the other managers deserve so much.
But when you see Unai earning 8M then you have to just put it down to market forces.

I suppose anyone that comes to Arsenal, whether no matter their experience, is going to get 8-10m
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Yeah I agree it looks like the going rate for PL managers is that bracket uve mentioned. The amount of TV money etc.. clubs get now the manager will be paid well. Espcially in comparison to rest of Europe. Problem is barring City, non of other owners push their managers to succeed and show ambition. So you end up high payed managers not under pressure to do well.

In every day life ur getting paid well and no pressure, you just work in your comfort zone.
 
As per reports, he has been spending a lot of time in Brazil so hopefully everything is fine with his family.

Edu has done an excellent job. The signings of Odegaard and Gabriel alone make him a success.

He has been a key figure in rebuilding the squad that has pushed Arsenal from a team struggling to stay in the top 6 to a team challenging for the title.

It will be interesting to see who the next Sporting Director will be.
 
IMMY69 said:
That figure surprised me too so I googled it.

Pep is by far the highest earner followed by Arteta who is on 10m and then, this really surprised me, Unai Emery is in third place...
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To be honest though, even though the money is hugh, Pep somewhat demands it with his success.

Arteta, Ten hag on the other hand getting paid a kings ransom for little success.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
To be honest though, even though the money is hugh, Pep somewhat demands it with his success.

Arteta, Ten hag on the other hand getting paid a kings ransom for little success.
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It is completely stupid to compare Arteta and Ten Hag. Arteta is the reason why Arsenal is fighting for the title again and the same group of fans who used to celebrate top 4 like a trophy are now upset over not winning the league.

On the other hand, Ten Hag failed to help United progress. They are in the same situation now as they were in 2022 when he took over, no closer to winning the title.

He would still be in the job if he had done the job Arteta has done.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Only my opinion but I think 1 of two things has happened here

- Arteta has complained about players his been given and Edus recruitment in summer
- owners have seen sense for once and maybe we're going to make someone accountable for once, Edu has jumped before he was sacked. We saw this with wenger leaving early (when we all know the club were sacking him).
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Ye. They'll let it seem like it's an honorable exit but anyone with common sense would be able to see its due to performance.

Good riddance.

We've not had anyone decent for a while. Since Mr Dein. Ivan Gazidis, Sven/Raul on top of my head. None were nothing but mouthpieces
 
MK7Z said:
Ye. They'll let it seem like it's an honorable exit but anyone with common sense would be able to see its due to performance.

Good riddance.

We've not had anyone decent for a while. Since Mr Dein. Ivan Gazidis, Sven/Raul on top of my head. None were nothing but mouthpieces
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Don't remind of gazdis 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

"We moved to Emirates to compete with Madrid and Bayern"

Indeed a PR mouth piece.

Rumours coming out now are that Edu wanted to sign certain players. Arteta essentially over ruled him and got what he wanted in calafori and Merino.

In the press Edu and Arteta dressed up as they make joint decisions. But its looking like Arteta is pretty much getting his way with signings.

That doesn't distant from Edu being incompetent in his job
 
Amjid Javed said:
Yeah I agree it looks like the going rate for PL managers is that bracket uve mentioned. The amount of TV money etc.. clubs get now the manager will be paid well. Espcially in comparison to rest of Europe. Problem is barring City, non of other owners push their managers to succeed and show ambition. So you end up high payed managers not under pressure to do well.

In every day life ur getting paid well and no pressure, you just work in your comfort zone.
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Pep is on 20m and would command that sort of figure from any club.
Imagine what a Saudi team would pay him :)

One thing is for sure, no matter what you pay Pep, he is a winner and won't compromise on team performances and I think this is where we will disagree. I think Arteta too is a pretty poor loser which is a good thing. Doubt he'll stay just for the money, he's trying to build his brand and winning trophies is the only thing that will enhance his brand
 
Pep only wants to work for the strongest clubs in Europe because his coaching philosophy is not suited for players who don’t have the talent to play at the top level. His salary is justified because he knows how to win things with great players.

The difference between him and Ancelotti is that the latter is a glorified cup manager with an embarrassing track record of winning league titles.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Don't remind of gazdis 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

"We moved to Emirates to compete with Madrid and Bayern"

Indeed a PR mouth piece.

Rumours coming out now are that Edu wanted to sign certain players. Arteta essentially over ruled him and got what he wanted in calafori and Merino.

In the press Edu and Arteta dressed up as they make joint decisions. But its looking like Arteta is pretty much getting his way with signings.

That doesn't distant from Edu being incompetent in his job
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Begs the question who did Edu want to sign... Think it's all rumours. Main thing is he's gone.

Hopefully break the pattern of neglecting issues otherwise Mikel will be main culprit going forward.
I'll be honest I've not read the article just the headline.

Is he going straight away or will he be around for the January window?
 
MK7Z said:
Begs the question who did Edu want to sign... Think it's all rumours. Main thing is he's gone.

Hopefully break the pattern of neglecting issues otherwise Mikel will be main culprit going forward.
I'll be honest I've not read the article just the headline.

Is he going straight away or will he be around for the January window?
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It doesn't give an indication on the date that he will be leaving, I would presume it would be soon.

Depends on who kronkes bring in now, also on who will be leading looking at January transfer signing (not that I think the club make any signings then anyways).
 
Mamoon said:
As per reports, he has been spending a lot of time in Brazil so hopefully everything is fine with his family.

Edu has done an excellent job. The signings of Odegaard and Gabriel alone make him a success.

He has been a key figure in rebuilding the squad that has pushed Arsenal from a team struggling to stay in the top 6 to a team challenging for the title.

It will be interesting to see who the next Sporting Director will be.
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You’re 1-0 down & bring on a 17 year old to help equalise . It’s only November . This shows he didn’t do a great job .

Great news for Arsenal imo . Clearly the board met with the manager & staff demanding an explanation. Arteta obviously said the squad is too thin.

Now it’s crucial not to rush signings in January unless they are world class . A striker has to come in .

Inter Away is a tough away fixture . Arteta will keep playing his best xi . Don’t be surprised if more injuries are to come
 
KingKhanWC said:
You’re 1-0 down & bring on a 17 year old to help equalise . It’s only November . This shows he didn’t do a great job .

Great news for Arsenal imo . Clearly the board met with the manager & staff demanding an explanation. Arteta obviously said the squad is too thin.

Now it’s crucial not to rush signings in January unless they are world class . A striker has to come in .

Inter Away is a tough away fixture . Arteta will keep playing his best xi . Don’t be surprised if more injuries are to come
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Injuries have been used as an excuse for the poor start. Barring the Liverpool game we should have still got points from the games we didn't. Bournemouth, Brighton, Newcastle.

Odegaard has been a massive miss but no serious team would fall apart like we have just because 1 player is injured. That stinks of mismanagement at all tiers.

Injuries can happen anytime. Our 2 main injuries were Saka and Odegaard both on international duty. Thats just bad luck. Merino breaking his arm in training. Again just bad luck. Tomiyasu is just an injury full stop.Calfiori keeps picking up niggles but that might be as a result of his ACL he had a couple of years back.

Injuries are part of the game but there should not be such a drop off just cos a player is injured. Yes naturally there will be a drop off cos of the quality of the player but not like we have seen Arsenal the last few weeks.

Hopefully now he is going the Brazilian clan barring Big Gabi will follow.
 
🤣 excellent job 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Funny how uve used excuse that squad wasn't good enough when saliba got injured

Also uve thrown towel in this season. But the squad recruitment has been good?

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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KingKhanWC said:
You’re 1-0 down & bring on a 17 year old to help equalise . It’s only November . This shows he didn’t do a great job .

Great news for Arsenal imo . Clearly the board met with the manager & staff demanding an explanation. Arteta obviously said the squad is too thin.

Now it’s crucial not to rush signings in January unless they are world class . A striker has to come in .

Inter Away is a tough away fixture . Arteta will keep playing his best xi . Don’t be surprised if more injuries are to come
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Arteta said the squad is thin?

Same useless manager that has a say in recruitment and personally asked for trash like lakonga, Vieira, Zinchenko, Jesus, havertz, calafori, Merino to name a few.

The poor squad assembly is on both Edu and Arteta. Edu is gone and if kronkes had sense they would sack Arteta as well. But the cost of sacking him and getting a better manager will cost them money they don't want to approve spending.

Yet another failed "process' under the clownkies 🤡🤡
 
KingKhanWC said:
You’re 1-0 down & bring on a 17 year old to help equalise . It’s only November . This shows he didn’t do a great job .

Great news for Arsenal imo . Clearly the board met with the manager & staff demanding an explanation. Arteta obviously said the squad is too thin.

Now it’s crucial not to rush signings in January unless they are world class . A striker has to come in .

Inter Away is a tough away fixture . Arteta will keep playing his best xi . Don’t be surprised if more injuries are to come
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I don’t need lectures from Liverpool fans. Arsenal finished well below Liverpool for years and in the last two seasons, the same Liverpool core have finished below Arsenal. This isn’t possible without good recruiting.

Only a fool would argue that you can go from 8th to 2nd without Technical/Sporting Directors doing a good job.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Arteta said the squad is thin?

Same useless manager that has a say in recruitment and personally asked for trash like lakonga, Vieira, Zinchenko, Jesus, havertz, calafori, Merino to name a few.

The poor squad assembly is on both Edu and Arteta. Edu is gone and if kronkes had sense they would sack Arteta as well. But the cost of sacking him and getting a better manager will cost them money they don't want to approve spending.

Yet another failed "process' under the clownkies 🤡🤡
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Yes this season is over but you can’t go from 8th to 2nd in a few years without good squad building. This “useless” manager is the reason why fans like you are dreaming of winning the PL again.

Every sporting director/manager makes bad signings. It is part of the job. However, overall, Arteta & Edu have done a brilliant job of taking the club where they are from where they were, but those who are only interested in driving toxic agendas will not understand.
 
topspin said:
I didn't get to watch the whole game yesterday because I was playing football (not in the Alum Rock Cab League), so I only watched the last 20 minutes.

When will Arteta learn that you can't play Merino as your number 10? If Nwaneri is your best option, let him start.

I think it's time to give Rice some rest. Let Partey play DM, Merino should play the number 8 role and Nwaneri should be our CAM.

The likes of Martinelli, Jesus and Trossard are not good enough to start for Arsenal. Jesus should have been sold in the summer.

We need to get rid of Edu asap. If Arsenal finish outside the top 4, then Arteta should also face the same fate.
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I got my wish. Good riddance. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
 
Amjid Javed said:
If Arsenal don't win PL or CL this season Arteta needs to go.

It shouldn't be based on finishing outside top 4.

He clearly doesn't trust Nwaneri to start PL, he will probably do what he dud in his 1st full season in charge, keep playing failing seniors till all is lost, then start playing youngsters.

Reason Arteta never learns? His jobs not on line and club has no ambition to win PL or CL, the pathetic transfer window showed that. It was a window designed to qualify for CL again.

Arteta manages Arsenal like its a computer game, try stupid and weird stuff, if it don't work press restart button and play again. Things won't change.

Apart from Saka, none of the rest of Arsenal's attacking options are good enough to win a PL or CL title at this club

Jesus, sterling are trash, Martinelli and trossard are now only good enough if they are back ups. "World class" havertz is just an overpaid utility player who had a golden patch. Anyone using excuse he's not playing in postion, I couldn't care less. Your on 300K a week so whether your asked to play striker, midfield, RB you don't dissapear or turn into a statue.

This season could be hugely damaging longterm because quite a few clubs could now overtake Arsenal or atleast catch them up from a competing point of view.
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If Arsenal get less than 89 points, finish 2nd or lower and there is an upgrade available on Arteta, then yes he should be sacked.

Now that Edu is gone, I want to see what Arteta can do. Believe me the Brazilian ex-player was biggest fraud, who was the holding the club back. I want to see what Mikel can do with a competent sporting director who knows what to do in the summer transfer market.
 
topspin said:
If Arsenal get less than 89 points, finish 2nd or lower and there is an upgrade available on Arteta, then yes he should be sacked.

Now that Edu is gone, I want to see what Arteta can do. Believe me the Brazilian ex-player was biggest fraud, who was the holding the club back. I want to see what Mikel can do with a competent sporting director who knows what to do in the summer transfer market.
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One of reasons Edu is going is because Arteta got his way on a lot of transfers. Likes of Jesus, Vieira, Zinchenko, lakonga, jorghino, sterling, Merino, havertz, calafori were ones Arteta personally asked for.

Edu was bad at his job, but let's not pretend Arteta isn't also at fault here. He's wanted a lot of players he's work with before or failing players that he things he could improve as some sort of miracle worker.
 
Amjid Javed said:
One of reasons Edu is going is because Arteta got his way on a lot of transfers. Likes of Jesus, Vieira, Zinchenko, lakonga, jorghino, sterling, Merino, havertz, calafori were ones Arteta personally asked for.

Edu was bad at his job, but let's not pretend Arteta isn't also at fault here. He's wanted a lot of players he's work with before or failing players that he things he could improve as some sort of miracle worker.
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What this stuff about the Marynakis group I'm hearing? Any truth in this?
 
IMMY69 said:
What this stuff about the Marynakis group I'm hearing? Any truth in this?
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Ye. Its the Big Greek dude who runs Forest. Guys is minted and Edu will over see all the clubs he owns. Think its 3.

He's dude the who came on pitch last season when Forest conceded late haha.

But Yeah looks like Edu is getting way more money. I for one couldn't care less the reason he is leaving. I don't think he has done a good job especially this season. Its easy to say Mikel insisted on players but then if you are getting over-ruled whats your role?
 
IMMY69 said:
What this stuff about the Marynakis group I'm hearing? Any truth in this?
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Yeah he's leaving as he's getting 3 tines what he's on at Arsenal, plus he knew that he at somepoint he was getting fired at Arsenal

On a side note, all this stuff about Edu dealing with family stuff in Brazil. This is a guy who spent most of Transfer windows on holiday, light bbqs and then actually doing his job.
 
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Under Edu, Arsenal went from struggling to stay in the top 6 to going toe to toe with Man City for the Premier League, while spending less money than Chelsea, United and even City in the same period.

Under Edu, Arsenal finished above a title winning Liverpool squad twice, same Liverpool squad that used to finish several positions above Arsenal.

You cannot go through the progression that Arsenal did under Arteta without the Technical/Sporting Director doing a good job with squad building.

Same Edu who apparently couldn’t pull off a big transfer bodied City in the Rice deal.

Edu has made some mistakes too, all executives do. It is the nature of the job. However, he did more good than bad otherwise, Arsenal wouldn’t have progressed the way they have in the last few years.

Arsenal’s rise is all the evidence anyone needs about the work that he did. He did an A grade job.
 
Mamoon said:
Under Edu, Arsenal went from struggling to stay in the top 6 to going toe to toe with Man City for the Premier League, while spending less money than Chelsea, United and even City in the same period.

Under Edu, Arsenal finished above a title winning Liverpool squad twice, same Liverpool squad that used to finish several positions above Arsenal.

You cannot go through the progression that Arsenal did under Arteta without the Technical/Sporting Director doing a good job with squad building.

Same Edu who apparently couldn’t pull off a big transfer bodied City in the Rice deal.

Edu has made some mistakes too, all executives do. It is the nature of the job. However, he did more good than bad otherwise, Arsenal wouldn’t have progressed the way they have in the last few years.

Arsenal’s rise is all the evidence anyone needs about the work that he did. He did an A grade job.
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Did he do a good job this season though? Ok he can share credit for bringing us back to the conversation for the PL but.

I mean this summer only. The season we had to kick on and make the moves that will improve the small margins. Did he perform? If the answer is not then that alone is enough to be given the boot.
 
Have a look at the transfer window when Arsenal were top before the world cup break.

We went and signed trossard, jorghino and kiwor. Those signings were never going to win Arsenal a title, they were signings to secure top 4

Same goes for the bakwas window we've just had now.

All Edu's incompetence did was to try secure top 4, yet he ran his mouth like we were a big club. Go look at his interviews after each window, it's clear neither him or the kronkes had ambition to win titles.

It's only now most people are seeing through this failed project
 
Mamoon said:
I don’t need lectures from Liverpool fans. Arsenal finished well below Liverpool for years and in the last two seasons, the same Liverpool core have finished below Arsenal. This isn’t possible without good recruiting.

Only a fool would argue that you can go from 8th to 2nd without Technical/Sporting Directors doing a good job.
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Liverpool were transitioning after winning it all .

You need to look where you are at now. Last two seasons you had little injuries, relied on your first xi . Only a poor director in charge of squad depth wouldn’t see this coming .

Arsenal play Inter away tonight . The players already look worn out but can’t be rested . Imo there is no need to risk further injuries so play your fittest xi. Losing to inter is better than losing to Chelsea .

2 weeks ago you were predicting a title winning season , suddenly you writ it off like Kamala Harris campaign?

Arteta has to earn his wages now . January window is huge , he must spend wisely & improve . Anything less than 3rd & winning no trophies could see him lose his job . Writing the season off is writing off your boy , Michael .
 
Mamoon said:
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Arsenal and City are equally good now, the points table last season and their H2H results show that.

This is down to the brilliance of Arteta. After coming so close twice, you have to back him to do on the third attempt because Arsenal will even stronger this season.

I expect Arsenal to win the league and even if they don’t, they will still finish above Liverpool.
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So now a good job Is

- spending less money then united and Chelsea, but those clubs winning more trophies
- finishing above Liverpool a couple of times

🤦‍♂️ this sums up the fan base, the owners, edu and Arteta as these are so called standards this club is happy with.

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I thought Arsenal played alright. They were badly let down by the usual suspects, Martinelli and Trossard. Neither of them are good enough to start for this team. End product has been poor.

The penalty was so soft and really harsh on Arsenal.

Arsenal did put a lot of deliveries into Inter's box but they turned up and produced a 10/10 defensive masterclass. Credit where due.

The only way we were going to score was from some individual brilliance. If we can play like that against Chelsea, we should be able to beat them.

Good to see Ode back.
 
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