Arsenal FC | 2024/25 Season

[Amjid Javed]

Go back to the season Leicester won the title, most Arsensl fans were calling for a new striker. But because at end of most other season giroud would score a few goals in meaningless games, the club would make out as though their was no need for a striker.

That season giroud went 20+ games without a goal.

Arsensl made same foolish mistake after a havertz had a purple patch scoring.

Every season a club doesn't need to male loads and loads of signings. But every team needs a few players to refresh and upgrade the team.

This club never learns as top 4 is always the goal. Seems like only the delusionist in this fan base keep rolling the excuses out season after season.

 

[shaz619]

It’s fair to say Arteta has not been the same since Unai Emery gave him a good hiding last season

 

[MK7Z]

It’s fair to say Arteta has not been the same since Unai Emery gave him a good hiding last season

Its not actually fair to say though is it? Arsenal won every game since that defeat against Villa including slapping Villa at their own ground. Think it was 8 in a row.

Granted the form has dipped the past few weeks but to say since that Emery defeat was the reason is just once again made up rubbish by rival fans trying to troll. At least come with some sensible opinions.

I mean Arsenal are giving plenty of ammo to the rivals so to make statements like this is just odd. Calling us Stoke would be more appropriate.

Maybe talk about how Emery has conceded 8 goals vs Ange in the last 2 games? Proper pastings. Or is that an uncomfortable conversation?

 

[KingKhanWC]

@Mamoon

Good news , Opta have arsenal as favourites against Chelsea, at 39%!

Chelsea vs Arsenal Prediction | Opta Analyst

We look ahead to Sunday's Premier League game at Stamford Bridge with our Chelsea vs Arsenal prediction and preview.

theanalyst.com

As a stern & loyal fan of Arteta , what is your pre match analysis? Will Martin start ? Can Arsenal keep a clean sheet against a scoring Chelsea? It was 8-0 for them at home against a weak team but perfect preparation. Palmer looks for to play .

My prediction- 1-1. Arsenal will defend hard & come back with a point .

 

[Amjid Javed]

Its not actually fair to say though is it? Arsenal won every game since that defeat against Villa including slapping Villa at their own ground. Think it was 8 in a row.

Granted the form has dipped the past few weeks but to say since that Emery defeat was the reason is just once again made up rubbish by rival fans trying to troll. At least come with some sensible opinions.

I mean Arsenal are giving plenty of ammo to the rivals so to make statements like this is just odd. Calling us Stoke would be more appropriate.

Maybe talk about how Emery has conceded 8 goals vs Ange in the last 2 games? Proper pastings. Or is that an uncomfortable conversation?

Calling us Stoke, Burnley, Bolton would be appropriate with the trash football being delivered.

 

[Mamoon]

- So players ran their course
- no replacement for ESR or Vieira

Who is to blame for poor transfer window edu, kronkes or pullis-allydayce?

You keep avoid advising who is to blame here?

No one cares about your politician answers

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It is not about who isn’t or who is to be blamed. Footballing decisions at times don’t work out the way you expect them to, but that is part of football. What matters is taking action to rectify the situation so let’s see how the club reacts in the summer.

This is why it is important that Edu’s replacement is finalized very quickly and the new SD gets to work right away.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Yet another deflecting / politician excuse.

The fact you can't constructive criticise or call individuals it shows thar your scared to admit you were wrong on your bold claims about the club uve made over last 4 or 5 years.

 

[Mamoon]

It’s fair to say Arteta has not been the same since Unai Emery gave him a good hiding last season

The only hiding was the one Arteta gave to Emery by taking Arsenal forward which Emery was not good enough to do so. Arteta took Arsenal where Emery was supposed to take them but he didn’t have the chops.

Emery doesn’t have what it takes to manage big clubs. He got kicked out of PSG and got kicked out of Arsenal because the jobs were too big for him.

He thrives in jobs like Sevilla, Villarreal, Villa etc. where he is under no pressure to win the league and can be the underdog. Fans of these clubs will not complain even if they don’t finish in the top 3 for the next 30 years. This is the type of environment Emery thrives in.

United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern, Juventus, Barcelona. All these powerful clubs changed managers recently, and every single one of them could have easily prized Emery away from Villa if they wanted to, but they clearly don’t rate him after the way he got exposed at PSG and Arsenal.

 

[Mamoon]

Yet another deflecting / politician excuse.

The fact you can't constructive criticise or call individuals it shows thar your scared to admit you were wrong on your bold claims about the club uve made over last 4 or 5 years.

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Arsenal have gone from 8th to 2nd which reflects the decision-making of the club and this why the genuine and intelligent fans are backing the regime.

 

[Mamoon]

@Mamoon

Good news , Opta have arsenal as favourites against Chelsea, at 39%!

Chelsea vs Arsenal Prediction | Opta Analyst

We look ahead to Sunday's Premier League game at Stamford Bridge with our Chelsea vs Arsenal prediction and preview.

theanalyst.com

As a stern & loyal fan of Arteta , what is your pre match analysis? Will Martin start ? Can Arsenal keep a clean sheet against a scoring Chelsea? It was 8-0 for them at home against a weak team but perfect preparation. Palmer looks for to play .

My prediction- 1-1. Arsenal will defend hard & come back with a point .

I’m a stern and loyal Arsenal fan and support Arteta only because I believe he is the right man for the club and I have no doubt in my mind that he will two Premier League titles in the next four years.

However, I will stop supporting him the day I feel he is no longer the man to take Arsenal forward. It is similar to how I stopped supporting Arsene when it became clear and obvious that he had to go.

Coming to the match, Arsenal will be lucky to get a point out of this given the low confidence of the players at the moment and the free flowing attacking football that Chelsea are playing. Chelsea should be very disappointed if they don’t take all 3 pts.

 

[Amjid Javed]

A bottled title with an 8 point lead
Zero trophies in 4 seasons and zero cup finals says otherwise

The fact the club has kept falling short, shows thart club has issues with ownership, DOF and manager

Your whole league progression ultimately yields nothing in terms of titles.

Again your pedalling out excuses.

If you think vast majority of fan base are backing the regime your only fooling yourself.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I’m a stern and loyal Arsenal fan and support Arteta only because I believe he is the right man for the club and I have no doubt in my mind that he will two Premier League titles in the next four years.

However, I will stop supporting him the day I feel he is no longer the man to take Arsenal forward. It is similar to how I stopped supporting Arsene when it became clear and obvious that he had to go.

Coming to the match, Arsenal will be lucky to get a point out of this given the low confidence of the players at the moment and the free flowing attacking football that Chelsea are playing. Chelsea should be very disappointed if they don’t take all 3 pts.

Chelsea aren’t the finished article , their defence & keeper are suspect. Most of your team is back . If Arteta is a great manager, you should be confident of at least a draw .

Within weeks you write off a season but are not detailing the reason & new found lack of confidence in the manager.

It was 2 titles in 3 years in the bag but now 2 in 4 ? Meanwhile Mikel still believes 100 points is on ?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Chelsea aren’t the finished article , their defence & keeper are suspect. Most of your team is back . If Arteta is a great manager, you should be confident of at least a draw .

Within weeks you write off a season but are not detailing the reason & new found lack of confidence in the manager.

It was 2 titles in 3 years in the bag but now 2 in 4 ? Meanwhile Mikel still believes 100 points is on ?

The amount of flip flopping is staggering. There sure has to be a limit to delusional rhetoric in everyone's book!

 

[Amjid Javed]

Chelsea aren’t the finished article , their defence & keeper are suspect. Most of your team is back . If Arteta is a great manager, you should be confident of at least a draw .

Within weeks you write off a season but are not detailing the reason & new found lack of confidence in the manager.

It was 2 titles in 3 years in the bag but now 2 in 4 ? Meanwhile Mikel still believes 100 points is on ?

2 in 3
2 in 4
2 in 5

He just makes it up as he goes along

"Havertz will win 3 titles before 2030"
which means 3 out of the next 5

It's just rambled nonsense with zero conviction

He's thrown towel in this season but can't bring himself to admit he was wrong

Just prolonging his humiliation

 

[Amjid Javed]

The amount of flip flopping is staggering. There sure has to be a limit to delusional rhetoric in everyone's book!

Dec 2023 - Arteta will win 2 out of the next 4

Arsenal didn't win the 23/24 title

So now his response is Arteta will win 2 out of next 4 (just moving goal posts again)

Then he claimed havertz will win 3 PLs before 2030, which equates to atleast 3 out of the next 5

2024/25 - 25/26 - 26/27 - 27/28 - 28/29

 

[topspin]

Why do we need Gyokeres? We have world class havertz? One of top strikers in world?

Look at the amazing world class performances vs Bolton and Preston this season.

We will just ignore the big PL games, we can ignore the CL games as well, as they don't matter. You don't need to perform in those to be world class when it comes to Germanys greatest ever player.

If you counter argument is going to be a comparison with a haaland goal drought then that's weak. Haaland goal overall record in PL and CL is another level compared to the German donkey.

It's not Haaland's goal drought. It's the fact that Haaland scored 1 goal from 8.5xG since the Arsenal game. If that was Havertz, we would never hear the end of it. The guy plays as a hybrid 9/10 and his defensive work goes unnoticed.

Havertz needs better service. The likes of Trossard and Martinelli have let him down.

 

[Amjid Javed]

It's not Haaland's goal drought. It's the fact that Haaland scored 1 goal from 8.5xG since the Arsenal game. If that was Havertz, we would never hear the end of it. The guy plays as a hybrid 9/10 and his defensive work goes unnoticed.

Havertz needs better service. The likes of Trossard and Martinelli have let him down.

Doesn't matter whether he's hybrid, left wing, right wing, false nine, target man.

He's the highest paid player at the club, yet your rolling out excuses.

Plenty of this fan base slagged Auba and ozil off for not delivering on 300K a week. So why the difference with havertz. You telling me his performances justify 300K a week?

World class players are ones who make something out of nothing. Also players who when others are doing their job still step it up.

Havertz had been useless in CL away games, these are the games your highest paid players step up in.

Havertz is just the equivalent of a imam / Azhar Ali in cricket terms. When everyone else is playing well he looks half decent, or he's looking good against weak opposition. But when it comes to the crunch he's nowhere to be seen.

As far as haaland goes go have a look at his overall record at City. He goes through patches of not scoring at times. Then scores huge amounts of goals. The guy pretty much is reason why city won league last season, also treble season before.

Havertz is nowhere near that level. The fact you keep making the comparison is silly.

How can you have a world class striker who doesn't turn up in CL (for Arsenal), is average at best at international level and goes missing in vast majority of big games in PL.

If you look at where most of his goals have come against its against weak and mediocre teams.

The fact in recent month or so his only 2 decent games have been vs Bolton and Preston.

The guys output is no better that giroud when he was at Arsenal.

For 300k a week, who cares about defensive work. The guys an attack player.

Giroud and lacazette use to work hard, didn't make either of them elite either

 

[Amjid Javed]

It's not Haaland's goal drought. It's the fact that Haaland scored 1 goal from 8.5xG since the Arsenal game. If that was Havertz, we would never hear the end of it. The guy plays as a hybrid 9/10 and his defensive work goes unnoticed.

Havertz needs better service. The likes of Trossard and Martinelli have let him down.

Havertz goals while at Arsenal

Bournemouth
Brentford (2)
Lens
Luton
Brighton (3)
Burnley
Newcastle
Sheff utd
Chelsea (2)
Spurs
Everton
Wolves
Bolton
Leicester
PSG
Southampton
Preston

Vast majority of his goals have come against bottom of the half PL teams or lower league

If these were cricket stats it would be called a flat track bully. Nowhere near world class.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Havertz in PL (Chelsea / Arsenal)

Southampton (3)
Palace (2)
Fulham (2)
Burnley (4)
Norwich
Watford
Westham
Wolves (2)
Bournemouth (2)
Leicester (2)
Everton (2)
Brentford (2)
Luton
Sheff utd

Liverpool
Newcastle (2)
Brighton (3)
Chelsea (2)
Spurs

Never scored vs united, man city, Arsenal in PL, 1 goal vs liverpool, and 1 goal vs spurs in the PL

Most of his goals against bottom half relegation fodder

This is a "world class striker"

@topspin

 

[shaz619]

The only hiding was the one Arteta gave to Emery by taking Arsenal forward which Emery was not good enough to do so. Arteta took Arsenal where Emery was supposed to take them but he didn’t have the chops.

Emery doesn’t have what it takes to manage big clubs. He got kicked out of PSG and got kicked out of Arsenal because the jobs were too big for him.

He thrives in jobs like Sevilla, Villarreal, Villa etc. where he is under no pressure to win the league and can be the underdog. Fans of these clubs will not complain even if they don’t finish in the top 3 for the next 30 years. This is the type of environment Emery thrives in.

United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern, Juventus, Barcelona. All these powerful clubs changed managers recently, and every single one of them could have easily prized Emery away from Villa if they wanted to, but they clearly don’t rate him after the way he got exposed at PSG and Arsenal.

Arteta fans these days:

 

[topspin]

Doesn't matter whether he's hybrid, left wing, right wing, false nine, target man.

He's the highest paid player at the club, yet your rolling out excuses.

Plenty of this fan base slagged Auba and ozil off for not delivering on 300K a week. So why the difference with havertz. You telling me his performances justify 300K a week?

World class players are ones who make something out of nothing. Also players who when others are doing their job still step it up.

Havertz had been useless in CL away games, these are the games your highest paid players step up in.

Havertz is just the equivalent of a imam / Azhar Ali in cricket terms. When everyone else is playing well he looks half decent, or he's looking good against weak opposition. But when it comes to the crunch he's nowhere to be seen.

As far as haaland goes go have a look at his overall record at City. He goes through patches of not scoring at times. Then scores huge amounts of goals. The guy pretty much is reason why city won league last season, also treble season before.

Havertz is nowhere near that level. The fact you keep making the comparison is silly.

How can you have a world class striker who doesn't turn up in CL (for Arsenal), is average at best at international level and goes missing in vast majority of big games in PL.

If you look at where most of his goals have come against its against weak and mediocre teams.

The fact in recent month or so his only 2 decent games have been vs Bolton and Preston.

The guys output is no better that giroud when he was at Arsenal.

For 300k a week, who cares about defensive work. The guys an attack player.

Giroud and lacazette use to work hard, didn't make either of them elite either

Bro you make some good points but remember I never claimed that he is world class. I said he's been top 10 since Jan this year.

I agree he doesn't deserve those wages but that has nothing to do with him. That's on the likes of Edu for awarding this contract to him.

I'm not comparing Havertz and Haaland. All I said was if the former managed 1 goal from 8.5xG, can you imagine how some of our fans would react?

Havertz is good but should also buy Gykores because he's an even better striker. He's one of the top 5 centre forwards in Europe. This is my list from number 1 to number 5:

• Erling Haaland
• Harry Kane
• Robert Lewandowski
• Viktor Gyökeres/Lautaro Martinez
• Lautaro Martinez/Viktor Gyökeres

 

[Amjid Javed]

Bro you make some good points but remember I never claimed that he is world class. I said he's been top 10 since Jan this year.

I agree he doesn't deserve those wages but that has nothing to do with him. That's on the likes of Edu for awarding this contract to him.

I'm not comparing Havertz and Haaland. All I said was if the former managed 1 goal from 8.5xG, can you imagine how some of our fans would react?

Havertz is good but should also buy Gykores because he's an even better striker. He's one of the top 5 centre forwards in Europe. This is my list from number 1 to number 5:

• Erling Haaland
• Harry Kane
• Robert Lewandowski
• Viktor Gyökeres/Lautaro Martinez
• Lautaro Martinez/Viktor Gyökeres

The reason man city fans won't over react to haaland going through a lean patch is that he has credit in the bank with his goal scoring, also most City fans know that Haaland has gone through indifferent patches like this before.

As far as havertz goes, he has the occasional good spell where he scores against bottom half teams and otherwise goes missing.

Viktor Gyökeres I didn't really watch much of him last season, I'm always wary in a player has 1 good season and is hyped up, espcially with alot of the strikers in recent times to have been hyped up from Portuguese league have ended up being duds. However Viktor Gyökeres is performing for a 2nd season, he's done well for Sweden (a lot of Sweden fans rate him higher than isak) and doing well in CL.

He will however cost a lot of money and as far as Arsenal are concerned are they going to pay the asking price. Once in a while this club splashes out on a ozil, sanchez, partey, Rice marquee player, so would they do that again?
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It's clearly obvious in summer all strikers Arsenal were after, were told they would be back up to havertz - which is just plain stupid and sums up the mentality of this club. A player has a good spell and all of sudden there an autopick all time no matter what.

Also how many strikers or forwards as Arteta actually got a long and decent set of performances out of?

He had a prime Auba and put him out on left wing. He turned lacazette into a ball holding up false 9 that cudnt score goals.

The haram football Arsenal are playing right now, would that get the best out of Viktor Gyökeres?

Arsenal also wanted isak, but the fact they were one of the teams along with Liverpool that kept crying to the PL about Newcastle owners etc.. means Newcastle are going to be reluctant to do business with Arsenal.

Apart from saka, none of the rest of out attackers are good enough to lead this club to PL or CL titles.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Good luck who ever the new DOF at Arsenal is because the mess the will inherit will be on a par with the so call mess Arteta inherited 5 years ago.

If you Actually look at Arsenal squad you will see

GK - Raya Neto
Full backs - white, timber calafori, tomiyasu, Tierney, Zinchenko
CBs - saliba, Gabriel, kiwor
CM - Rice, partey, jorghino
AM - oddegard, Merino
Wingers - saka, trossard, Martinelli, sterling
Strikers - Jesus, Havertz,
Youngsters - lewis-skelly nwaneri

So in a 24 man squad you have

- 3 injury prone fullbacks
- 1 CB you don't trust
- 1 CM who your hardly using anymore
- 1 Attacking midfield who ain't good enough
- 1 winger you don't trust
- 1 striker you don't trust
- 2 youngsters you don't trust to start PL games

That's 10 players out of a 24 man squad the manager can't depend on or trust.

in midfield from an age perspective partey and jorghino will need to be replaced.

No player to give competition for places to oddegard, as Arteta doesn't trust Nwaneri

You think any clubs are going to want to pay Tierney, Tomiyasu or Zinchenko the wages they are on? For injury prone players?

Sterling - its a loan so Arsenal can just send him back to Chelsea

Apart from Saudi, is anyone going to be stupid enough to 40M (probably the price Arsenal want) for Jesus, plus his 250K week wages for a player who can't stay fit, hardly scores?

Trossard - Arsenal could get a decent fee from Saudi

Martinelli - probably the one player who Arsenal could get a good fee for.

To replace all these injury prone, useless players will better players will cost Arsenal a lot of money. Anyone think the kronkes are going to Authorise 250-300M transfer spree again?

Supposedly Edu and pullis-allydayce have done a good job on recruitment

This is only thr beginning of the mess that will hit this club.

 

[KingKhanWC]

2 in 3
2 in 4
2 in 5

He just makes it up as he goes along

"Havertz will win 3 titles before 2030"
which means 3 out of the next 5

It's just rambled nonsense with zero conviction

He's thrown towel in this season but can't bring himself to admit he was wrong

Just prolonging his humiliation

Good luck who ever the new DOF at Arsenal is because the mess the will inherit will be on a par with the so call mess Arteta inherited 5 years ago.

If you Actually look at Arsenal squad you will see

GK - Raya Neto
Full backs - white, timber calafori, tomiyasu, Tierney, Zinchenko
CBs - saliba, Gabriel, kiwor
CM - Rice, partey, jorghino
AM - oddegard, Merino
Wingers - saka, trossard, Martinelli, sterling
Strikers - Jesus, Havertz,
Youngsters - lewis-skelly nwaneri

So in a 24 man squad you have

- 3 injury prone fullbacks
- 1 CB you don't trust
- 1 CM who your hardly using anymore
- 1 Attacking midfield who ain't good enough
- 1 winger you don't trust
- 1 striker you don't trust
- 2 youngsters you don't trust to start PL games

That's 10 players out of a 24 man squad the manager can't depend on or trust.

in midfield from an age perspective partey and jorghino will need to be replaced.

No player to give competition for places to oddegard, as Arteta doesn't trust Nwaneri

You think any clubs are going to want to pay Tierney, Tomiyasu or Zinchenko the wages they are on? For injury prone players?

Sterling - its a loan so Arsenal can just send him back to Chelsea

Apart from Saudi, is anyone going to be stupid enough to 40M (probably the price Arsenal want) for Jesus, plus his 250K week wages for a player who can't stay fit, hardly scores?

Trossard - Arsenal could get a decent fee from Saudi

Martinelli - probably the one player who Arsenal could get a good fee for.

To replace all these injury prone, useless players will better players will cost Arsenal a lot of money. Anyone think the kronkes are going to Authorise 250-300M transfer spree again?

Supposedly Edu and pullis-allydayce have done a good job on recruitment

This is only thr beginning of the mess that will hit this club.

Jesus & Zinchenko both bought at the same time from city , paying nearly 80m with huge wages was a disaster. They will not go until it’s a free imo .

Should nwaneri start v Chelsea?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Jesus & Zinchenko both bought at the same time from city , paying nearly 80m with huge wages was a disaster. They will not go until it’s a free imo .

Should nwaneri start v Chelsea?

The Jesus and Zinchenko signings helped Man city fund the signings of haaland and Alvarez.

Everyone raves on about how Arsenal had a bad wage bill with players like Auba, ozil, David Luiz, pepe, kolasinac etc. All Edu and pullis-allydayce have done is replace these players with trash players on high wages.

Yes Nwaneri should start vs chelsea, but he won't.

The "saviour" The "messiah" aka oddegard is back so all of Arsenal problems will magically dissapear according to delusionist in fan base.

Nwaneri will just get cup games, manager doesn't fully trust youth players at this club. He just picks his favourites or signings he's personally asked for and will just keep playing them just so he can massage his ego and try and prove people wrong. Even if selections have a determental effects on team and results.

Most Arsenal fans were happy finishing 2nd as the excuses of being up against world class Pep, could be hidden behind.

Now if other clubs finish ahead of them, they can't use the Pep excuses, 115 charges excuse etc.. so now all of sudden the manager is being questioned.

Arnie slot has shown so far that a new manager can come in and take over a decent squad and do a good job.

This was another excuse Arsenal fans have used, but what managers are available if manager gets sacked. Oh pullis-allydayce might go to another big club if he's sacked.

So many fans have foolishly invested so much into this "project", they will pedal out excuses galore to get around fact they were wrong about edu, pullis-allydayce and the kronkes

 

[topspin]

The reason man city fans won't over react to haaland going through a lean patch is that he has credit in the bank with his goal scoring, also most City fans know that Haaland has gone through indifferent patches like this before.

As far as havertz goes, he has the occasional good spell where he scores against bottom half teams and otherwise goes missing.

Viktor Gyökeres I didn't really watch much of him last season, I'm always wary in a player has 1 good season and is hyped up, espcially with alot of the strikers in recent times to have been hyped up from Portuguese league have ended up being duds. However Viktor Gyökeres is performing for a 2nd season, he's done well for Sweden (a lot of Sweden fans rate him higher than isak) and doing well in CL.

He will however cost a lot of money and as far as Arsenal are concerned are they going to pay the asking price. Once in a while this club splashes out on a ozil, sanchez, partey, Rice marquee player, so would they do that again?
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It's clearly obvious in summer all strikers Arsenal were after, were told they would be back up to havertz - which is just plain stupid and sums up the mentality of this club. A player has a good spell and all of sudden there an autopick all time no matter what.

Also how many strikers or forwards as Arteta actually got a long and decent set of performances out of?

He had a prime Auba and put him out on left wing. He turned lacazette into a ball holding up false 9 that cudnt score goals.

The haram football Arsenal are playing right now, would that get the best out of Viktor Gyökeres?

Arsenal also wanted isak, but the fact they were one of the teams along with Liverpool that kept crying to the PL about Newcastle owners etc.. means Newcastle are going to be reluctant to do business with Arsenal.

Apart from saka, none of the rest of out attackers are good enough to lead this club to PL or CL titles.

Gyokeres’ still has a release clause of 85m. If he wants to join us and Arsenal are willing to pay up, then no reason why we can’t get him next summer.

I did hear Sesko turned down Arsenal because he was told he’d start second fiddle to Havertz.

The decision to play Aubameyang on the left and Laca down the middle was disastrous and I agree that’s on Arteta. I hate how the Auba situation was handled. This is where I blame Edu for ripping up his contract and letting him go for free.

I think Arsenal would get the best of Gyokeres if Arsenal can replace Martinelli with a much better left winger.

Isak is a good player but I wouldn’t like to see Arsenal pay 100m+ because he’s injury prone. He missed about 8-10 games per season if you look at his injury record.

Good point about the signings of Jesus and Zinchenko. This is where Edu’s incompetence gets exposed. The guy has poor talent IQ and the decision to pay these two mediocre players obscene wages has cost Arsenal big time.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Gyokeres’ still has a release clause of 85m. If he wants to join us and Arsenal are willing to pay up, then no reason why we can’t get him next summer.

I did hear Sesko turned down Arsenal because he was told he’d start second fiddle to Havertz.

The decision to play Aubameyang on the left and Laca down the middle was disastrous and I agree that’s on Arteta. I hate how the Auba situation was handled. This is where I blame Edu for ripping up his contract and letting him go for free.

I think Arsenal would get the best of Gyokeres if Arsenal can replace Martinelli with a much better left winger.

Isak is a good player but I wouldn’t like to see Arsenal pay 100m+ because he’s injury prone. He missed about 8-10 games per season if you look at his injury record.

Good point about the signings of Jesus and Zinchenko. This is where Edu’s incompetence gets exposed. The guy has poor talent IQ and the decision to pay these two mediocre players obscene wages has cost Arsenal big time.

85M Is reasonable price, so let's see if it gets done. We also need to sign a winger and overhaul the central midfield

Biggest issues for new DOF will be can he get decent fees for our overpaid liabilities in squad. If I was the new DOF I'd be offering all our duds to Saudi as that's only way we will make money.

I was sceptical on isaks fitness, but if he stays fit all this season and scores goals then 100M price tag will be justified.

Club made such a mess in summer transfer window, that this failed season again, could have longterm damaging effects to recover from.

 

[Rana]

We lose tomorrow and I think Arsenal should start thinking about Arteta

He’s lost the plot this season.

 

[topspin]

85M Is reasonable price, so let's see if it gets done. We also need to sign a winger and overhaul the central midfield

Agreed, this is exactly what needs to be done to turn this team into title winners, who can compete for the CL.

Biggest issues for new DOF will be can he get decent fees for our overpaid liabilities in squad. If I was the new DOF I'd be offering all our duds to Saudi as that's only way we will make money.

I was sceptical on isaks fitness, but if he stays fit all this season and scores goals then 100M price tag will be justified.

Club made such a mess in summer transfer window, that this failed season again, could have longterm damaging effects to recover from.

When it comes to the matter of DOF, what worries me is that according to the rumours, we're linked with the Rosicky and Mertesacker. I don't want to write them off but shouldn't we be going for proven and established? I'm not a fan of this ex-player approach. Yes Rosicky is DOF at Sparta Prague but with all due respect to them, they're a tiny club compared to Arsenal.

 

[topspin]

We lose tomorrow and I think Arsenal should start thinking about Arteta

He’s lost the plot this season.

Nice to see you back here in the Arsenal thread. It's been a depressing season. With City regressing and Liverpool's quiet transfer window, this was supposed to be our season, but it looks all doom and gloom.

Indeed, Arteta has to be held accountable if Arsenal fall short of winning the league/CL this season.

 

[KingKhanWC]

 

[KingKhanWC]

Arsenals best XI . No injuries. Away to a big rival & needing 3 points .

Chelsea at home wanting to stay above .

We should see a few goals here .

Change my prediction to 2-2

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arsenals best XI . No injuries. Away to a big rival & needing 3 points .

Chelsea at home wanting to stay above .

We should see a few goals here .

Change my prediction to 2-2

Must win game for Arsenal, no excuses

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Gooners to nick it 2-1. With setpieces being Gooners stronghold.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Gooners to nick it 2-1. With setpieces being Gooners stronghold.

A good strategy , Chelsea keeper is suspect.

Sending off is possible in this game , pens too .

Chelsea are physical, can arsenals legs stay with them is key imo

 

[Amjid Javed]

HT 0-0 lack of cutting edge for both teams in final 3rd

 

[KingKhanWC]

A little lame by both teams . But you can see it’s going to boil over . The game needs a goal .

 

[Amjid Javed]

A little lame by both teams . But you can see it’s going to boil over . The game needs a goal .

Both teams look scared to lose the game.

A mistake could settle this.

Also maybe a 2nd half red card

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Don't rate Sanchez but good finish from Martinelli, pass from Odegaard was delightful

 

[Amjid Javed]

Don't rate Sanchez but good finish from Martinelli, pass from Odegaard was delightful

Much needed goal

Sanchez is worst keeper in PL currently

A cardboard cutout would be better for Chelsea

Arsenal badly need 3 points here

 

[Mamoon]

This pass by Odegaard is exactly what Arsenal missed. No one else in the team has such creativity. Refreshing to see Martinelli using his brain for once.

 

[Amjid Javed]

1-1 Neto slaps one past Raya

 

[Amjid Javed]

Merino looking again

Why is havertz still on pitch?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Trossard what a miss

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Arsenal had chances at the end.

Could have won this.

 

[Amjid Javed]

*** another sitter by Trossard

 

[Amjid Javed]

More dropped points.

9 points behind behind Liverpool.

Time to sack Mikel Pulis-alladyce

800M and 5 years to produce football like prime Bolton

Please find the receipt for Merino and send this place back to sociedad or newcastle

 

[topspin]

Trossard drags that ball away at the end otherwise it was an easy for Havertz to score. Another 2 points lost. Not good enough.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Very even game with stats near identical .

Arsenal will be disappointed letting another lead slip .

International break will do them good . Will need to hang in there until January & buy a striker .. they should start looking now very seriously .

 

[Amjid Javed]

Trossard drags that ball away at the end otherwise it was an easy for Havertz to score. Another 2 points lost. Not good enough.

Havertz was trash all game and stayed on all game as usual

Merino, trossard and Jesus useless when thru came on.

If I was nwaneri I'd be asking for a loan deal in January.

Clueless tactics from Arteta again today

 

[aboveandbeyond]

More dropped points.

9 points behind behind Liverpool.

Time to sack Mikel Pulis-alladyce

800M and 5 years to produce football like prime Bolton

Please find the receipt for Merino and send this place back to sociedad or newcastle

Pulis on steroids lol

 

[KingKhanWC]

More dropped points.

9 points behind behind Liverpool.

Time to sack Mikel Pulis-alladyce

800M and 5 years to produce football like prime Bolton

Please find the receipt for Merino and send this place back to sociedad or newcastle

I don’t understand why Jesus comes on & hangs on the wing . He is the known centre forward , surely should not in the middle around the box .

 

[Amjid Javed]

I don’t understand why Jesus comes on & hangs on the wing . He is the known centre forward , surely should not in the middle around the box .

Arteta in 2 weeks will have been here 5 years, in that time he's not got the best out of a single striker in terms of longterm consistency. His cheerleaders were hyping up how this clueless manager supposedly help improve City attacker, when he was the cone distributor at Man city.

Arsenal should be out there looking for a new manager, before the likes of saliba, saka leave to win trophies else where

 

[IAJ]

Trossard drags that ball away at the end otherwise it was an easy for Havertz to score. Another 2 points lost. Not good enough.

I think it was off-side.

 

[MK7Z]

You could see what Odegaard brings to the team.
Delightful assist.

Poor goal to concede tbh. Didn't reorganise after a corner I think.

Should have won with our full team out tbh but our confidence is shook at the moment.

Hopefully the break helps.

Anything can happen but PL is looking to far away unfortunately.

I thought Merino was good when he came on.

So annoying that we have managed to be worse than city in a period they are at their worst.

Liverpool will drop points at some point and only one team will take advantage and I don't think it's us.

Never say never

 

[Mamoon]

Trossard chance was off-side.

Anyway, this season is a write off and the chances of doing business in January especially with Edu leaving and are quite slim, so it is better to focus on summer targets now and hope for a top 4 finish.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Thought Arsenal were winning league?

Thought if Arsenal don't challenge for league and finish behind Liverpool it's regression and manager should be sacked?

I see excuses are being rolled out and goalposts being moved as usual.

Before you use the Liverpool had bad seasons under Klopp excuse, they actually won trophies before they had bad seasons.

 

[IAJ]

No one cares about Leeds, so forgive me if I don’t recall that game. You are right - I was actually half impressed until I saw the City lineup and the fact that Pep didn’t even bother to bring De Bruyne off the bench even though City were behind. Then I burst out in laughter at your naivety for juxtaposing (you can google it if it is too big a word for you) two matches with very little in common.

You continue to talk absolute nonsense. Arsenal will finish above Liverpool for the third straight season and fight for the title until the very end.

You can run away from this thread now if you wish but please don’t hide when I bring out the rotten eggs and tomatoes in May. I have bookmarked your posts.

Just make one thing clear for me; Only some weeks ago you said Arsenal will fight for the title and will finish above Liverpool. Now you are saying this season is gone for Arsenal. So which one should I believe before you come in May 2025 and bump any posts?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Trossard chance was off-side.

Anyway, this season is a write off and the chances of doing business in January especially with Edu leaving and are quite slim, so it is better to focus on summer targets now and hope for a top 4 finish.

That's easy for you yo say. In the real world, Arteta has spent a fortune on being a nearly man. Lol Surely he has to be accountable if Arsenal fail to win the league this season. He's had ample time to build a team.

The next logic step for you guys is to move on from Arteta, and bring in a manager who is proven in winning league titles.

 

[MK7Z]

That's easy for you yo say. In the real world, Arteta has spent a fortune on being a nearly man. Lol Surely he has to be accountable if Arsenal fail to win the league this season. He's had ample time to build a team.

The next logic step for you guys is to move on from Arteta, and bring in a manager who is proven in winning league titles.

Accurate post... This season was the one and it's fading away.

I said it already but I think we need to learn how to play football again before thinking about a title. And maybe even win a game at some point. We've been woeful.

 

[Amjid Javed]

That's easy for you yo say. In the real world, Arteta has spent a fortune on being a nearly man. Lol Surely he has to be accountable if Arsenal fail to win the league this season. He's had ample time to build a team.

The next logic step for you guys is to move on from Arteta, and bring in a manager who is proven in winning league titles.

So according to the cheerleader now, the squad needs a refresh and rebuild. A squad which has won nothing, not even got to a single cup final in 4 seasons

Right now this is no better than poch at spurs. Arteta should go manage Rangers and try and will an SPL, that's his level.

Indeed Arsenal need a proven manager to get them over the line

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Accurate post... This season was the one and it's fading away.

I said it already but I think we need to learn how to play football again before thinking about a title. And maybe even win a game at some point. We've been woeful.

This is what happens when you have a manager who is beginning to lack clarity.

Before it was the pep way, high press possession football. You now have Arteta setting them up in a mid block to become hard to beat, which is effecting creativity big style.

The international break has come at a good time, Arteta needs to sort his head out.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Accurate post... This season was the one and it's fading away.

I said it already but I think we need to learn how to play football again before thinking about a title. And maybe even win a game at some point. We've been woeful.

The negative football is pretty much like watching prime Stoke under Pulis.

It also reminds me of the league football Liverpool use to play under Rafa benetiz, safety 1st do not lose, of you win its a bonus.

If you look at GG, Mourinho and Simone with their so called "defensive football"

GG - had Thomas, merson, Smith (20+ goals in both title seasons), limpar

Simone has Diego Costa, koke. Then Luis suarez

Mourinho has robben, duff, Drogba, lampard etc...

So even if you are going to be strong defensively you need a elite striker etc.. to win you title in such a manner

Barring saka, the forward line which has been assessed at Arsenal is nowhere near the level to win this club a title

That poor recruitment is on Arteta and edu

 

[Mamoon]

Just make one thing clear for me; Only some weeks ago you said Arsenal will fight for the title and will finish above Liverpool. Now you are saying this season is gone for Arsenal. So which one should I believe before you come in May 2025 and bump any posts?

Injuries and the incompetence of referees (VAR) have killed Arsenal’s season and it is too late to recover now in terms of winning the league, so it is time to forget this season and focus on next season.

This is season is to Arsenal what 2020-21 and 2022-23 were for Liverpool.

 

[Mamoon]

That's easy for you yo say. In the real world, Arteta has spent a fortune on being a nearly man. Lol Surely he has to be accountable if Arsenal fail to win the league this season. He's had ample time to build a team.

The next logic step for you guys is to move on from Arteta, and bring in a manager who is proven in winning league titles.

Arteta is the only reason why Arsenal fans are dreaming of winning the PL again. He is the one who revived Arsenal and raised the standards. He transformed the culture of the club.

No other manager would have done what Arteta has done for Arsenal so all genuine Arsenal fans should be 100% behind him and because there is no double that Arsenal will win the Premier League under him. It is a question of when not if.

 

[Mamoon]

Those who want Arteta to be replaced now. Please put your money where your mouth is and name your replacement.

 

[IAJ]

Injuries and the incompetence of referees (VAR) have killed Arsenal’s season and it is too late to recover now in terms of winning the league, so it is time to forget this season and focus on next season.

This is season is to Arsenal what 2020-21 and 2022-23 were for Liverpool.

Well that is what I call lame excuses. Both City and Liverpool have many injuries and at the momemt both of them have more injuries than Arsenal. And every team will have some decisions go against them at some point. Maybe Arsenal have been more unlucky than others, but the season is only just above one quarter old and you have given up?

But if Arsenal start winning a few on trot and Liverpool/City lose a few, I can see you change your stance again the way you are flip-flopping here. Lagay raho.

 

[Mamoon]

Well that is what I call lame excuses. Both City and Liverpool have many injuries and at the momemt both of them have more injuries than Arsenal. And every team will have some decisions go against them at some point. Maybe Arsenal have been more unlucky than others, but the season is only just above one quarter old and you have given up?

But if Arsenal start winning a few on trot and Liverpool/City lose a few, I can see you change your stance again the way you are flip-flopping here. Lagay raho.

Both Arsenal and City are out of the race, it is Liverpool’s to lose now. Klopp was a choker, he underachieved with this Liverpool squad.

Slot doesn’t have any scars from the past, he is very relaxed and confident, he should see this through.

 

[IAJ]

Both Arsenal and City are out of the race, it is Liverpool’s to lose now. Klopp was a choker, he underachieved with this Liverpool squad.

Slot doesn’t have any scars from the past, he is very relaxed and confident, he should see this through.

Lol a manger who has won both PL and champions league with plenty of other trophies are choker? Chalo yeh bhi sun liya hai.

City is not done at all, they are going through a tough periode early on, even Liverpool will have a bad patch at some stage and City will take advantage of that. Still not ruling out City.

 

[topspin]

I think it was off-side.

You’re talking about Trossard’s shot over the bar. I’m talking about the ball played into the box right before the final whistle.

Had Trossard left it, Havertz had an easy tap in.

 

[Mamoon]

You’re talking about Trossard’s shot over the bar. I’m talking about the ball played into the box right before the final whistle.

Had Trossard left it, Havertz had an easy tap in.

Trust me, VAR would have found a way to disallow the goal. Some imaginary shove somewhere in the build up.

 

[IAJ]

You’re talking about Trossard’s shot over the bar. I’m talking about the ball played into the box right before the final whistle.

Had Trossard left it, Havertz had an easy tap in.

No, I am talking about the one you are talking about. I also heard the Norwegian commie said it was offside and then turned the TV off.

 

[Mamoon]

Lol a manger who has won both PL and champions league with plenty of other trophies are choker? Chalo yeh bhi sun liya hai.

City is not done at all, they are going through a tough periode early on, even Liverpool will have a bad patch at some stage and City will take advantage of that. Still not ruling out City.

City cannot do it without Rodri. They are not winning it this time. With Arsenal out of it as well, Liverpool can walk it now.

Klopp massively underachieved with the players that he had. He should have won at least 3 PLs.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Rice and Saka injuries 'don't look good' - Arteta

Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta says that injuries to England duo Bukayo Saka and Declan Rice "don't look good" after they were taken off injured during Sunday's 1-1 draw with Chelsea.

Rice, who was playing with a broken toe, was withdrawn in the 71st minute before Saka was taken off after receiving treatment on a leg injury 10 minutes later.

"It doesn’t look good, because for two players of that importance to tell you they cannot continue in the game, it’s not good news." said Arteta.

Arsenal have had to deal with a number of injuries to key players this season and Saka also missed two games after picking up an injury playing for England in the last international break.

Both Saka and Rice are in interim head coach Lee Carsley's England squad for next week's Nations League games. England play away in Greece on Thursday, 14 November before hosting the Republic of Ireland three days later at Wembley.

But Arteta is unsure if the pair will be able to join up with the national side.

"I don’t know whether to expect them to be fit because if not they don’t come off," he said.

"What I'm praying for is that after the international break we have the team fully physically equipped, that they are available and that they are fit, because it's been a nightmare for eight weeks."

Martin Odegaard started his first match for two months for Arsenal and played the whole match. Arteta said he will speak to his captain about a potential international call-up for Norway.

Arsenal go into the international break nine points off the top of the Premier League table and are without a win in five matches in all competitions.


BBC

 

[MK7Z]

No, I am talking about the one you are talking about. I also heard the Norwegian commie said it was offside and then turned the TV off.

You are right. The flag did go up

 

[MK7Z]

Those who want Arteta to be replaced now. Please put your money where your mouth is and name your replacement.

I think by the end of the season more people will be wanting change if we have no success.

Like i said before. It doesn't make him a bad coach. He's done well but I think he's had the opportunities and if he comes up short. There's no shame.
Just wasn't meant to be.

 

[Mamoon]

I think by the end of the season more people will be wanting change if we have no success.

Like i said before. It doesn't make him a bad coach. He's done well but I think he's had the opportunities and if he comes up short. There's no shame.
Just wasn't meant to be.

None of these people would have realistic alternatives either.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Oh dear looks like someone's bubble has burst and the list of embarrassing excuses are being rolled out

- injuries
- VAR
- this is like what 2020-21 and 2022-23 were for Liverpool.
- what Alternative managers are they
- Once Arsenal get a new DOF this, that and other will happen

Then the delusion and failure to Call things out
- kronkes have done a good job because they signed 1 player for 100M
- Edu has done a good job
- Arteta is best young manager

Then the embarrassing flipflopping

- it's in the bag
- Arsenal will win the title this season
- Arteta will win 2 out of the next 3,4,5.. 7..11..100 titles
- Arsenal will finish above Liverpool
- klopp is failure at Liverpool, but Arteta is a success
- if Arsenal show regression and don't finish top 2, manager should be sacked

Seems like someone is struggling to cope with fact that Arteta is just another brendon Rogers, Poch, ole type manager.

 

[MK7Z]

None of these people would have realistic alternatives either.

There are alternatives. Its not my job to pick him. The point I am making is that it will come to a point where Mikel has taken us as far as he can and a change will be required. Are you suggesting Mikel to be manager forever?

Same thing happened with Wenger it was always who is there? Pep, Klopp were available during that time and fresh approach may work with us now to as the players we have are good enough. Just need to get over the line and Mikel has had his chances.

 

[Amjid Javed]

This will be trophyless season number 5 for Arsenal, but supposedly there are no alternatives out there

The problem at this club the kronkes went a yes man whose happy with mediocrity and achieving qualifying for CL every season..

If the kronkes wanted to win titles they would have gone and got Ancelotti, flick type managers

Diego simone, simone Inzaghi, xavi Alonso are all others who could he got at right price at end of this season.

But the kronkes don't want a manager who will demand to win trophies.