Arsenal FC | 2025/26 Season

[MK7Z]

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Soon? That looks like its already happened looking at the kit he has got on.

 

[MK7Z]

I didn't watch the game had to go into the Office. Saw the goal, as mentioned Raya does wonder a lot.

Its only pre season, MLS was tripped to when he lost ball . Ref was like ye whatever.

Anyway I think 1 more signing and get our strongest 11 out and we will be OK. Midfield is a concern but backup options are rarely of high or equivalent class normally. There is always going to be a drop off.

Apparently Eze release clause of £68 million expires tonight but Arsenal were always going to try getting him for less. Lets see how it pans out. Another signing or Madueke has done us big time..

Saw so still images of the game and it looked like we struggled with a low block as usual

 

[topspin]

If Eze’s release clause is expiring after today then why did we prioritise signing Madueke over him?

I have no doubt something shady is going on with Kroenke and the owners of Chelsea.

 

[Mamoon]

I am convinced that Odegaard will recapture his form this season mainly because he is finally playing with a deadly finisher who can make runs behind the back line.

Not only did Gyokeres score the most goals in Europe last season, he made the highest percentage of runs and had the lowest percentage of off-sides.

His movement is elite and if Odegaard cannot capitalize on that this season then yes, he needs to be held accountable.

There is some merit in the argument that he should be relieved of captaincy duties but I can understand why the club doesn’t want to go down that route, as stripping a player of captaincy while his is in the team is not good for the culture of the club and can breed toxicity.

Having said that, if he doesn’t improve this season and if Eze doesn’t come which he most likely will, Arsenal should consider playing 4-4-2 in some games this season with Havertz playing as an SS and holding the ball.

 

[topspin]

Odegaard is still captain as he's the managers personalised hand puppet so he can relay the managers messages on the pitch. This team is over coached and the manager wants everything choreographed on the pitch, it's predictable dull and boring. Unless Arsenal start being brave enough to win games, rather playing not to lose, then we ain't winning.

All 3 pre season games so have highlight the midfield issues. Odegaard / norgaard and rice will play as a midfield 3 in some games this season. Injuries and suspensions will happen. The fact of reality is merino, Odegaard and havertz are not good enough. Norgaard is a safety 1st player.

So basically Arsenal in most games will have to score 1st, shut up shop and look to nick a second goal. Any games where we conceded 1st and low blocks are set up, your going to see the lack of creativity exposed.

Arsenal don't have an explosive front 3, where they can get away with a functional + non functional midfield.

Yet this is supposedly Arsenal greatest transfer window in history because we have signed 4 back up players and have world class depth

The entire left side of team is dead and non functional as well. The manager simply can't change way of playing. 15M a year for this robotic boring football that doesn't win anything

If Arsenal do end up falling short of winning the PL/UCL under the current manager, his reliance and unwavering faith in Odegaard as captain and main playmaker will make end up being his downfall.

 

[Mamoon]

If Eze’s release clause is expiring after today then why did we prioritise signing Madueke over him?

I have no doubt something shady is going on with Kroenke and the owners of Chelsea.

Berta is a wily old fox. He knows what he is doing.

He wants to sign Eze for less than his release clause which is very possible as we enter the last month of the window and Eze will pressurize Palace to sell him.

 

[topspin]

 

[Amjid Javed]

If Eze’s release clause is expiring after today then why did we prioritise signing Madueke over him?

I have no doubt something shady is going on with Kroenke and the owners of Chelsea.

Chelsea board must have nudes of Arteta, only logical explanation as to why the manager keeps buying chelsea leftovers

 

[Amjid Javed]

If Arsenal do end up falling short of winning the PL/UCL under the current manager, his reliance and unwavering faith in Odegaard as captain and main playmaker will make end up being his downfall.

The managers general incompetence, poor squad management, in game management, stubbornness and ego will be reason he keeps failing.

The captain epitomises why this club has no winning mentality

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but it will be toxic environment if Odegaard if he's stripped of captaincy



Typical spineless mentality as usual..

Then again this is coming from someone who was crying at end of October last year saying title was over

Mentally weak captain

Mentally week cheerleader

 

[IMMY69]

But but it will be toxic environment if Odegaard if he's stripped of captaincy



Typical spineless mentality as usual..

Then again this is coming from someone who was crying at end of October last year saying title was over

Mentally weak captain

Mentally week cheerleader

I ask for one favour for this upcoming season.

Please don't reply to that troll..
Do not encourage him to post on this thread. I'm begging you

 

[Mamoon]

The third kit is a thing of beauty. So clean.

Arsenal x Adidas have got it right again.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Yes nothing to do with Man U finishing 15th in the league.



Utd has no pull when it comes to top tier talent and elite players, so I very much doubt that.

What happened. Sesko. Mbeumo. Cunha

Not bad for apparently a banter club

 

[aboveandbeyond]

He's bang on though. Look at these takes. If you had a shred of credibility, you would agree that you don't have a scooby doo.

This what you put out a few weeks ago:



The fact that you thought Man U had a chance of signing Gyokeres shows that you are detached from reality.

Last December you wrote this:



To summarise, Man U:

• Are not a global powerhouse
• Do not have pulling power
• They never had any chance of signing Gyokeres after finishing 15th in the PL and losing to Spurs in the Europa League Final

If you keep this up the more you will get exposed and the more you will get bantered on here.

Not bad for finishing 15th last season with no European football to offer.

Sesko apparently close to personal terms and ditched a team who finished in the top 5 and offer champions league football.

Lol

 

[topspin]

What happened. Sesko. Mbeumo. Cunha

Not bad for apparently a banter club

But you thought Utd had the pulling power to sign Gyokeres? What happened there?

None of the players you have named here are top tier.

But I would argue that is irreverent because the truth is they have joined Man U merely to upgrade their pay packet. None of them have joined your team because they believe in your manager or because they feel aligned to the long-term vision/project.

The problem with these type of players are is that they are footballing mercenaries. They are only motivated by the financial rewards rather than the outcome of the football team.

We’ve already seen this with Casemiro, Sancho, Garnacho, Mount, Anthony and de Ligt. They were much better players before they joined Utd.

Top tier is signing players like Gyokeres, Zubimendi and Rice. Man Utd doesn’t have the pull to attract such players because of the state they are in.

 

[topspin]

The third kit is a thing of beauty. So clean.

Arsenal x Adidas have got it right again.

I’m tempted to buy the full sleeve version:

 

[topspin]

DEL

 

[aboveandbeyond]

But you thought Utd had the pulling power to sign Gyokeres? What happened there?

None of the players you have named here are top tier.

But I would argue that is irreverent because the truth is they have joined Man U merely to upgrade their pay packet. None of them have joined your team because they believe in your manager or because they feel aligned to the long-term vision/project.

The problem with these type of players are is that they are footballing mercenaries. They are only motivated by the financial rewards rather than the outcome of the football team.

We’ve already seen this with Casemiro, Sancho, Garnacho, Mount, Anthony and de Ligt. They were much better players before they joined Utd.

Top tier is signing players like Gyokeres, Zubimendi and Rice. Man Utd doesn’t have the pull to attract such players because of the state they are in.

Sesko is a Top draw player.

 

[MK7Z]

Sesko is a Top draw player.

He has the potential to be.

Otherwise other top clubs would also be after him. Arsenal walked away when they realised him and his agent etc think he is CR7 or something.

He was Arsenal bound last season but its been widely reported he didnt fancy competing for his place with Havertz. Make of that what you wish.

Actually excited to see how he does. What is Man Uniteds squad value these days with the transfer fee's they pay?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

He has the potential to be.

Otherwise other top clubs would also be after him. Arsenal walked away when they realised him and his agent etc think he is CR7 or something.

He was Arsenal bound last season but its been widely reported he didnt fancy competing for his place with Havertz. Make of that what you wish.

Actually excited to see how he does. What is Man Uniteds squad value these days with the transfer fee's they pay?

That proves my point . He is a potential top player when we had 2 Top premier league clubs before after his services.
Obviously at Utd he's been guaranteed to lead the line with Possibly Hojlund or zirkzee his back up.

With him highly likely neglecting Newcastle, there's a chance Isak could be staying at Newcastle which would be good news for all concerned.

 

[Amjid Javed]

As much as United are "in the mud" they have signed 2 premier league proven attackers. Not a fan of sesko, but he may get time to develop at united.

Compared to what they had last season, they have upgraded massively.

If they don't improve collectively on the pitch then manager deserves the sack.

It's does make united vs Arsenal game an interesting one, whilst we have done very well against united recently. The game at OT won't be an easy one to start with.

 

[Mamoon]

As much as United are "in the mud" they have signed 2 premier league proven attackers. Not a fan of sesko, but he may get time to develop at united.

Compared to what they had last season, they have upgraded massively.

If they don't improve collectively on the pitch then manager deserves the sack.

It's does make united vs Arsenal game an interesting one, whilst we have done very well against united recently. The game at OT won't be an easy one to start with.

So now we are supposed to do bhangra over the transfer business of United. Looks like this is the new strategy of toxic Arsenal "fans" who don't have the courage to accept that Arsenal have done wonderful business this summer.

United have not uprooted any trees either. Their midfield and defense is still at the same level. They should have address it by now. Their business doesn't even compare to Arsenal's, who have had a really great window and can make it even better if Eze arrives.

Cunha and Maulvi Mbeumo are not statement signings like Gyokeres. They are decent players but they don't belong in a title-winning team, but they are ok signings for a club that was fighting relegation last season and will be aiming for top 8 this time.

Sesko is a good signing. He has high potential, but the only reason United signed him is because Arsenal rightfully rejected him and went after the clearly superior Gyokeres who rejected United....7 times in this window.

Pound for pound, Arsenal had a far better window than United but you won't have the courage to say this.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Seems the retards in the fan base has resorted to making things up again.

When did I say anyone had to do bhangra over uniteds signings? Yes more made up ********

Also when I didn't I compared united and Arsenal transfer windows? I didn't, so again more made up ********.

Do everyone a favour and stop making up nonsical rubbish and scenarios that people haven't been mentioned.

Uve literally been humilated on the England vs india thread after your comical bakwas, and now uve come onto this forum talking nonsense

Well done for proving what a retard your are as per usual.

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but Arsenal have done wonderful buisness this summer

but but Arsenal have world class depth

World class retarded delusion as usual

I guarantee the excuses and crying and throwing the towel in will happen before end of the year...

 

[aboveandbeyond]

So now we are supposed to do bhangra over the transfer business of United. Looks like this is the new strategy of toxic Arsenal "fans" who don't have the courage to accept that Arsenal have done wonderful business this summer.

United have not uprooted any trees either. Their midfield and defense is still at the same level. They should have address it by now. Their business doesn't even compare to Arsenal's, who have had a really great window and can make it even better if Eze arrives.

Cunha and Maulvi Mbeumo are not statement signings like Gyokeres. They are decent players but they don't belong in a title-winning team, but they are ok signings for a club that was fighting relegation last season and will be aiming for top 8 this time.

Sesko is a good signing. He has high potential, but the only reason United signed him is because Arsenal rightfully rejected him and went after the clearly superior Gyokeres who rejected United....7 times in this window.

Pound for pound, Arsenal had a far better window than United but you won't have the courage to say this.
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Buffoonery is your speciality i guess. As you say UTD have made poor signings, nothing to be worried about. Their a bantet club, so I guess anything less than a 5-0 win at old Trafford For you Gooners will be a failure i guess?

 

[Mamoon]

@aboveandbeyond

You have made a bigger mess of my post by quoting it like a drunkard than Ten Hag did at United in two years. Please learn to quote properly if you want me to reply to you.

 

[IMMY69]

@aboveandbeyond
Please don't reply

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arsenal greatest ever transfer window in clubs history

Arsenal have world class depth in midfield

Arsenal best squad since 04-05

All these great insightful comments from the clueless retards in the fan base

The fact a 15 year old Max dowman was Arsenal best and most creative player again.

Imagine signing one of most in form strikers in Europe, then continue to set up tactically to play like Stoke City and Wimbledon

Arsenal midfield is so devoid of creativity that its actually embarrassing

The delusion retards are in for a reality check again this season

But but you have an Agenda

But but this has been an amazing transfer window so far

But but Arteta will win 2 title in 4 next years, because I said so in December 2023

 

[IMMY69]

Arsenal greatest ever transfer window in clubs history

Arsenal have world class depth in midfield

Arsenal best squad since 04-05

All these great insightful comments from the clueless retards in the fan base

The fact a 15 year old Max dowman was Arsenal best and most creative player again.

Imagine signing one of most in form strikers in Europe, then continue to set up tactically to play like Stoke City and Wimbledon

Arsenal midfield is so devoid of creativity that its actually embarrassing

The delusion retards are in for a reality check again this season

But but you have an Agenda

But but this has been an amazing transfer window so far

But but Arteta will win 2 title in 4 next years, because I said so in December 2023

You beat me to it

I was just going to say that in our last two outings, £200m spent and the best player on the park is our 15 year old academy player...

 

[Amjid Javed]

You beat me to it

I was just going to say that in our last two outings, £200m spent and the best player on the park is our 15 year old academy player...

The only positive right now is how well this kid is playing, the reality is going to be that at his age you can expect him to play to much football.

The fact he's the only creative outlet out of all of Arsenal midfield options, actually shows how embarrassing the rest are.

The likes of norgaard, Merino are safety 1st players with zero creativity and pass the ball like snails. Arsenal have one of smallest squads in PL, other than Gyokeres Arsenal haven't increased the numbers in the squad with quality.

Once again, once you get past the 1st choice starting 11, the squad is going to get exposed when it comes to winning trophies. This is a squad and manager built to make CL qualification.

Liverpool and City have massively improved their squads. If Chelsea sign a top quality CB and top class keep they will be dangerous as well.

How poor Arsenal midfield has looked all preseason should be setting alarm bells ringing. There is no improvement in creativity in this team right now

 

[IMMY69]

The only positive right now is how well this kid is playing, the reality is going to be that at his age you can expect him to play to much football.

The fact he's the only creative outlet out of all of Arsenal midfield options, actually shows how embarrassing the rest are.

The likes of norgaard, Merino are safety 1st players with zero creativity and pass the ball like snails. Arsenal have one of smallest squads in PL, other than Gyokeres Arsenal haven't increased the numbers in the squad with quality.

Once again, once you get past the 1st choice starting 11, the squad is going to get exposed when it comes to winning trophies. This is a squad and manager built to make CL qualification.

Liverpool and City have massively improved their squads. If Chelsea sign a top quality CB and top class keep they will be dangerous as well.

How poor Arsenal midfield has looked all preseason should be setting alarm bells ringing. There is no improvement in creativity in this team right now

We need Eze... hopefully this will push them to get that deal done

 

[Amjid Javed]

We need Eze... hopefully this will push them to get that deal done

We need eze as a number 10 sgining, also a wide left forward.

Even then it doesn't matter, the manager is tactically setting up in same awful turgid, defensive manner

As usual once Arsenal are lagging behind during season, you will eventually see changes. Always reactive than proactive

Arsenal needed to address the striker, left side attack, left side 8, number 10 positions at start of summer. Arsenal have addressed one position

Arsenal right now are set up to play negative football, hoping that Gyokeres scores a goal and Arsenal win games 1-0

 

[topspin]

The only positive right now is how well this kid is playing, the reality is going to be that at his age you can expect him to play to much football.

The fact he's the only creative outlet out of all of Arsenal midfield options, actually shows how embarrassing the rest are.

The likes of norgaard, Merino are safety 1st players with zero creativity and pass the ball like snails. Arsenal have one of smallest squads in PL, other than Gyokeres Arsenal haven't increased the numbers in the squad with quality.

Once again, once you get past the 1st choice starting 11, the squad is going to get exposed when it comes to winning trophies. This is a squad and manager built to make CL qualification.

Liverpool and City have massively improved their squads. If Chelsea sign a top quality CB and top class keep they will be dangerous as well.

How poor Arsenal midfield has looked all preseason should be setting alarm bells ringing. There is no improvement in creativity in this team right now

And Zubimendi as well. But yes it's been a grim two games for Arsenal during this pre-season.

 

[topspin]

Sesko is a Top draw player.

As expected you conveniently dodged the other points made in my post because as per usual, you do not have a scooby doo.

I agree with MK72 that Sesko has a very high ceiling and if he does reach it, he could become the Slovenian Isak but that's a big IF at this moment in time since he's yet to accomplish this.

27 goals in 64 Bundesliga games over the last two seasons does not make him a "top draw" player. I would argue Liam Delap's 12 goals in 37 PL games for relegated Ipswich was more impressive since he was feeding off scraps in a dogshit side. But given your level of ball knowledge, I'm sure you will tell us Delap is another overrated English player, who is hyped up by the media.

When you look at the signings of all the centre forwards that have been made by the PL clubs in this transfer window, Chelsea's signing of Delap is by far the best value for money. An absolute bargain beyond belief at £30m. He has all the ingredients to become a world class striker.

I would not be surprised if he was leading the line for England in the World Cup next summer.

 

[topspin]

I know we shouldn't be making a big deal out of the results from pre-season games but I can't help and say it is a bit concerning to see the way the side lost at the Emirates today following our defeat to Spurs last week.

I watched the second half and it was a flat performance. If Arsenal fail to win again this weekend in the Emirates Cup final, I feel Arteta is going to be under tremendous pressure to deliver at Old Trafford.

We are seeing the cycle repeat itself. Martinelli and Odegaard are just not good enough to be starting for Arsenal. If the club had the ambition to match Liverpool and Chelsea, they would go out and buy Rodrygo and happily paid the release clause for Eze. It makes no sense whatsoever to see us pay well over the market value for Madueke but hesitate on Eze.

 

[Amjid Javed]

And Zubimendi as well. But yes it's been a grim two games for Arsenal during this pre-season.

Zubimendi has been good as well.

But the problem is going to be that pretty much Zubimendi and Rice are going to have to play Almost every PL and all the important CL games. The rest of the midfield options are average at best

Unless Arsenal are very lucky with injuries and suspension the likes of norgaard (the guys a solid player, no better then eleneny) and Merino, havertz, Odegaard are not going to elevate this side in the PL or CL.

Rice as good as a box to box midfielder in the number 8, he will get goals. But he is not a creative spark, like other elite "creative" players in number 8 roles.

So reality is where is Gyokeres going to get supplly from. Arsenal passing is so slow and ponderous its going to create zero space for Any striker. Arsenal still playing the usual get the ball out wide and crosses.

You only need to have a bad spell for 3 or 4 games in PL and your done in a title race. The midfield options are that of a team only interest in qualifying for top 4.

Unless the manager drastically changes the style of play. Arsenal are not going to win PL or CL playing haram Stoke City football

I can see why a lot of the fan base are more interested in bantering spurs, United, neewcastle fans etc.. as its a coping mechanism to deflect from what's coming this season.

Madueke being used out left isn't a shock either, anyone think Arsenal spent 50M on a "back up" to Saka are in denial as well.

If Arsenal wanted the elite players they were after. They would have made them 1st. Rather then now having to sell to buy

No one wants to pay Zinchenkos wages, and he ain't wanting to leave as he knows he ain't getting 150K/W elsewhere. It's also why a lot of other squads players haven't be sold either.

The lack of creativity hasn't been addressed. You could have prime Henry in this team and he would struggle with the poor turgid midfield behind him.

This team is designed to sneak wins by a single goal. Arteta is essentially banking on Gyokeres to score and Arsenal to win most games based on defence.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

As expected you conveniently dodged the other points made in my post because as per usual, you do not have a scooby doo.

I agree with MK72 that Sesko has a very high ceiling and if he does reach it, he could become the Slovenian Isak but that's a big IF at this moment in time since he's yet to accomplish this.

27 goals in 64 Bundesliga games over the last two seasons does not make him a "top draw" player. I would argue Liam Delap's 12 goals in 37 PL games for relegated Ipswich was more impressive since he was feeding off scraps in a dogshit side. But given your level of ball knowledge, I'm sure you will tell us Delap is another overrated English player, who is hyped up by the media.

When you look at the signings of all the centre forwards that have been made by the PL clubs in this transfer window, Chelsea's signing of Delap is by far the best value for money. An absolute bargain beyond belief at £30m. He has all the ingredients to become a world class striker.

I would not be surprised if he was leading the line for England in the World Cup next summer.

Perfectly happy with sesko Mbeumo cunha. And going off by reliable sources, Utd will enquire about Carlos Baleba. Brightens highly rated midfielder once sesko Breaks Magpies hearts.

As for Delap, not really bothered. What He does at Chelsea or for England next year. According to the Media every English player is world class, so there's nothing new there when majority of football fans know the reality

 

[topspin]

Zubimendi has been good as well.

But the problem is going to be that pretty much Zubimendi and Rice are going to have to play Almost every PL and all the important CL games. The rest of the midfield options are average at best

Unless Arsenal are very lucky with injuries and suspension the likes of norgaard (the guys a solid player, no better then eleneny) and Merino, havertz, Odegaard are not going to elevate this side in the PL or CL.

Rice as good as a box to box midfielder in the number 8, he will get goals. But he is not a creative spark, like other elite "creative" players in number 8 roles.

So reality is where is Gyokeres going to get supplly from. Arsenal passing is so slow and ponderous its going to create zero space for Any striker. Arsenal still playing the usual get the ball out wide and crosses.

You only need to have a bad spell for 3 or 4 games in PL and your done in a title race. The midfield options are that of a team only interest in qualifying for top 4.

Unless the manager drastically changes the style of play. Arsenal are not going to win PL or CL playing haram Stoke City football

I can see why a lot of the fan base are more interested in bantering spurs, United, neewcastle fans etc.. as its a coping mechanism to deflect from what's coming this season.

Madueke being used out left isn't a shock either, anyone think Arsenal spent 50M on a "back up" to Saka are in denial as well.

If Arsenal wanted the elite players they were after. They would have made them 1st. Rather then now having to sell to buy

No one wants to pay Zinchenkos wages, and he ain't wanting to leave as he knows he ain't getting 150K/W elsewhere. It's also why a lot of other squads players haven't be sold either.

The lack of creativity hasn't been addressed. You could have prime Henry in this team and he would struggle with the poor turgid midfield behind him.

This team is designed to sneak wins by a single goal. Arteta is essentially banking on Gyokeres to score and Arsenal to win most games based on defence.

Arsenal's cover for Zubimendi and Rice is Norgaard and Merino, which is scary to say the least.

Arsenal need to sign both Eze and Rodrygo if they are serious about winning the title.

Looks like Madueke is our Temu Raphina.

 

[MK7Z]

Didn't bother with pre season matches but been reading a few reviews of the games and seems it's the same old. We are great until the final 3rd then go blank. We've bought a gun man but no creativity it seems.

Until we sort the creativity out it'll be the same ol same ol. Double up on saka side and nullify us

 

[Amjid Javed]

I know we shouldn't be making a big deal out of the results from pre-season games but I can't help and say it is a bit concerning to see the way the side lost at the Emirates today following our defeat to Spurs last week.

I watched the second half and it was a flat performance. If Arsenal fail to win again this weekend in the Emirates Cup final, I feel Arteta is going to be under tremendous pressure to deliver at Old Trafford.

We are seeing the cycle repeat itself. Martinelli and Odegaard are just not good enough to be starting for Arsenal. If the club had the ambition to match Liverpool and Chelsea, they would go out and buy Rodrygo and happily paid the release clause for Eze. It makes no sense whatsoever to see us pay well over the market value for Madueke but hesitate on Eze.

As I've said all pre-season the results don't matter.

What matters is
- getting match fitness
- Working on style of play
- Testing players for positions during season

The defensive performances have been woeful, but you would expect that to improve.

- the midfield is exactly what it is. Declan Rice, plus sociedad / europa league standard midfield options.

- Attack just looks disjointed, usual play of get ball to saka and get your prayer mats out. Forget we have a top quality striker in middle. Don't pass to him, don't get ball forward

The lack of quality in depth in squad and managers lack of plan B will get exposed as usual.

Reminds me of Rafa benetiz at Liverpool, a guy who set up in league not to lose and winning was a bonus

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Zubimendi has been good as well.

But the problem is going to be that pretty much Zubimendi and Rice are going to have to play Almost every PL and all the important CL games. The rest of the midfield options are average at best

Unless Arsenal are very lucky with injuries and suspension the likes of norgaard (the guys a solid player, no better then eleneny) and Merino, havertz, Odegaard are not going to elevate this side in the PL or CL.

Rice as good as a box to box midfielder in the number 8, he will get goals. But he is not a creative spark, like other elite "creative" players in number 8 roles.

So reality is where is Gyokeres going to get supplly from. Arsenal passing is so slow and ponderous its going to create zero space for Any striker. Arsenal still playing the usual get the ball out wide and crosses.

You only need to have a bad spell for 3 or 4 games in PL and your done in a title race. The midfield options are that of a team only interest in qualifying for top 4.

Unless the manager drastically changes the style of play. Arsenal are not going to win PL or CL playing haram Stoke City football

I can see why a lot of the fan base are more interested in bantering spurs, United, neewcastle fans etc.. as its a coping mechanism to deflect from what's coming this season.

Madueke being used out left isn't a shock either, anyone think Arsenal spent 50M on a "back up" to Saka are in denial as well.

If Arsenal wanted the elite players they were after. They would have made them 1st. Rather then now having to sell to buy

No one wants to pay Zinchenkos wages, and he ain't wanting to leave as he knows he ain't getting 150K/W elsewhere. It's also why a lot of other squads players haven't be sold either.

The lack of creativity hasn't been addressed. You could have prime Henry in this team and he would struggle with the poor turgid midfield behind him.

This team is designed to sneak wins by a single goal. Arteta is essentially banking on Gyokeres to score and Arsenal to win most games based on defence.

Rice at 8 and Odegaard at 10 will cost you big time against low blocks.

Ideally for Arsenal. Rice has to play at six and if Arteta is to preserve with Odegaard then he has to play at 8 and play a more creative playerv at 10. Both Rice and Odegaard lack the finesse side of the game for 8 and 10 where in general you have to be able to play in the pockets and find the subtle passes

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arsenal's cover for Zubimendi and Rice is Norgaard and Merino, which is scary to say the least.

Arsenal need to sign both Eze and Rodrygo if they are serious about winning the title.

Looks like Madueke is our Temu Raphina.

My mate who supports chelsea sent me this. This is how much chelsea find it funny with Arsenal fetish for buying the leftovers

Madueke might end up being slightly better than trossard and Martinelli, but this is scrapping barrell level this club is at.

Liverpool, City and Chelsea haven't hesitated at getting their 1st choice targets this summer. Whereas as usual we are looking at leftovers thrown outside the bins after 8pm at Stamford bridge

 

[topspin]

Perfectly happy with sesko Mbeumo cunha. And going off by reliable sources, Utd will enquire about Carlos Baleba. Brightens highly rated midfielder once sesko Breaks Magpies hearts.

That's fine but the question is are they to going your long list of footballing mercenaries or will they take pride in their work and help Utd ascend from the gutter?

As for Delap, not really bothered.

You should be because he's another Centre Forward who turned that Utd. In fact he was Man Utd's first choice CF. You only started pursuing Gyokeres and Sesko, after he turned you guys down.

According to the Media every English player is world class, so there's nothing new there when majority of football fans know the reality

So typical. You never disappoint when it comes to displaying toxic agendas. It makes sense why you are incapable of giving recognition to many decent English players like Rice and Delap.

Anyone who knows ball wouldn't be slagging off Delap. I would have loved to have him at Arsenal. If you ask football fans, what is better business £30m for Delap or paying well over double for Sesko, I promise an overwhelmingly majority would vote for the former based on current affairs.

Let me ask you is Dowman another hyped up English player?

 

[topspin]

My mate who supports chelsea sent me this. This is how much chelsea find it funny with Arsenal fetish for buying the leftovers

Madueke might end up being slightly better than trossard and Martinelli, but this is scrapping barrell level this club is at.

Liverpool, City and Chelsea haven't hesitated at getting their 1st choice targets this summer. Whereas as usual we are looking at leftovers thrown outside the bins after 8pm at Stamford bridge
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I would have no issue of signing Madueke if he was signed for £25m-£30m and lower order the priority list of transfers required. Chelsea signed for £29m in 2023 but he hasn't improved much since then. Signing him prior to Eze and paying double what he's worth suggests to me something is not right at the board or ownership level.

 

[topspin]

@Amjid Javed

Spurs signed Paulinha on loan. Do you think Arsenal should have missed out here?

 

[Amjid Javed]

@Amjid Javed

Spurs signed Paulinha on loan. Do you think Arsenal should have missed out here?

Yeah he's a quality player, as is khudus.

We should have looked at Paulinha when he left Fulham, same goes for khudus who we failed to sign twice.

That's sort of players we should have been looking at instead of players like norgaard and madueke.

Look at when we use to have players like rosicky, hleb, carzola etc..as midfield options, players of similar quality fighting to start. Instead now we have starting 11 and then just underwhelming back up players.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I would have no issue of signing Madueke if he was signed for £25m-£30m and lower order the priority list of transfers required. Chelsea signed for £29m in 2023 but he hasn't improved much since then. Signing him prior to Eze and paying double what he's worth suggests to me something is not right at the board or ownership level.

Exactly, these are sort of signings you make at end of window as a take a bit of punt as might be a decent back up.

Instead the club happily over paid for him. The guy scored 2 goals in PL this calender year and both those came in January.

Club and Arteta seemed more interested in just padding out the squad then buying elite players. The fact we have Nwaneri and dowman as well, the signing just makes even less sense from footballing point of view.

 

[topspin]

Exactly, these are sort of signings you make at end of window as a take a bit of punt as might be a decent back up.

Instead the club happily over paid for him. The guy scored 2 goals in PL this calender year and both those came in January.

Club and Arteta seemed more interested in just padding out the squad then buying elite players. The fact we have Nwaneri and dowman as well, the signing just makes even less sense from footballing point of view.

You can go on Transfrmarket and look for the most valuable right wingers in the PL. Here is the list below. What is quite telling that Nwaneri is worth significantly more than Madueke (nearer to his prime) despite being 5 years than younger than him.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

That's fine but the question is are they to going your long list of footballing mercenaries or will they take pride in their work and help Utd ascend from the gutter?



You should be because he's another Centre Forward who turned that Utd. In fact he was Man Utd's first choice CF. You only started pursuing Gyokeres and Sesko, after he turned you guys down.



So typical. You never disappoint when it comes to displaying toxic agendas. It makes sense why you are incapable of giving recognition to many decent English players like Rice and Delap.

Anyone who knows ball wouldn't be slagging off Delap. I would have loved to have him at Arsenal. If you ask football fans, what is better business £30m for Delap or paying well over double for Sesko, I promise an overwhelmingly majority would vote for the former based on current affairs.

Let me ask you is Dowman another hyped up English player?

These players have been identified to fit in with Omirins vision, so I doubt they are comparable to the likes of Casimeros who clearly was a washed up mercenary

As for Delap im glad we didn't sign him. Personally for me, Mateta and Sesko in that order where my preferences for the CF position at Utd.

As for Dowman hes a promising kid lNothing more, or less.

 

[topspin]

These players have been identified to fit in with Omirins vision, so I doubt they are comparable to the likes of Casimeros who clearly was a washed up mercenary

As for Delap im glad we didn't sign him. Personally for me, Mateta and Sesko in that order where my preferences for the CF position at Utd.

As for Dowman hes a promising kid lNothing more, or less.

No you didn't.

If we can get Gyokeres in, then we mean business next season.

The way I see it, you are just living in the moment and you will blindly cheerlead anyone who arrives at your club, which is understandable given where you finished in the league last season.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

No you didn't.



The way I see it, you are just living in the moment and you will blindly cheerlead anyone who arrives at your club, which is understandable given where you finished in the league last season.

Once Gyokeres signed at Arsenal. My personal preference where Mateta and Sesko. Definitely not Delap

 

[Mamoon]

@Amjid Javed We all remember when you used to argue that Martinelli is one of the best LW in Europe because no one else has 15 league goals

I haven’t seen so much post match analysis after a pre-season game. I didn’t know the Emirates Cup mattered now.

 

[Mamoon]

Arsenal should go for Eze, but worst case scenario - I will be happy with Madueke on the LW, as long as the pathetic Martinelli is not starting. He is a Championship level winger.

 

[topspin]

Once Gyokeres signed at Arsenal. My personal preference where Mateta and Sesko. Definitely not Delap

Delap wouldn’t have been in the picture at that point because he was acquired by Chelsea, well before Arsenal signed Gyokeres.

The fact that you can’t get your timeline straight sums up your agenda - with the way you’re slyly trying to slag off Delap here. It’s not gone unoticed.

If we rewind back to the start of the transfer window, there’s no way any knowledgeable and rational Man Utd fan says no to Delap, when he’s available for 30m.

If he’s good enough for Chelsea. He’s more than good enough for Man Utd.

 

[topspin]

Arsenal should go for Eze, but worst case scenario - I will be happy with Madueke on the LW, as long as the pathetic Martinelli is not starting. He is a Championship level winger.

Madueke in 10-15 mins looked much better than anything Martinelli produced in the 75+ mins he played during the game.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Delap wouldn’t have been in the picture at that point because he was acquired by Chelsea, well before Arsenal signed Gyokeres.

The fact that you can’t get your timeline straight sums up your agenda - with the way you’re slyly trying to slag off Delap here. It’s not gone unoticed.

If we rewind back to the start of the transfer window, there’s no way any knowledgeable and rational Man Utd fan says no to Delap, when he’s available for 30m.

If he’s good enough for Chelsea. He’s more than good enough for Man Utd.

My Personal preference was Mateta because of his experience. As both Hojlund and Zirkzee have been deemed inexperienced and have not coped well with the Weight of the shirt. And for this reason signing Delap was a risky business.

As for Sesko he's of similar age but the stark difference of him Playing in the champions league in 3 of the past 4 seasons will hold him in good stead.

Manchester United delivered brutal £30m Liam Delap transfer truth

United are keen to sign the Ipswich Town forward this summer

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[Amjid Javed]

The Arteta fan club mascot who made the following claims

"It's in the bag"

"Arsenal should sign Melo"

"Havertz is new bergkamp"

"Odegaard would make Musiala change position"

"Havertz will win 3 PL titles before 2030"

"Havertz is one of best CF in Europe"

"Calafori and Merino are good signings"

"I will apologise is Arteta doesn't win 2 titles in next 4 years" (December 2023)

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but I trust Arteta as he will turn madueke into prime Pires / overmars



Keep backing the the league one clueless manager

 

[Amjid Javed]

@aboveandbeyond @topspin

It seems all the traditional top 6 sides have changed tact and now are wanting to go down the route of looking at young strikers. Main reasons for thar have been


- wanting a player who can develop over a long period of time
- resale value in future with players been young
- more youthful squads

Teams seen more focused on building younger squads for longer term, also having players with resale value. Teams are now thinking more from a buisness point of view then on the pitch

In regards to young strikers, unless your a freak of nature like Haaland, most strikers don't develop into lethal goal scorers or reach peak until mid to late 20s.

We've seen all big clubs sign or target young strikers and in the cases where they are seen to be the "main source" of goals they end up struggling under pressure.

Hjolund at united, Jackson at Chelsea are examples of that. If you look at Liverpool the have sign ekitike but he will have the luxury of having time to settle im, as Salah is there to score the bulk of the goals.

This is why Berta did a good job in seeing sense and swerving sesko. If Arteta the had his way then sesko would have been signed

Sesko going to united, makes zero sense, its just another hjolund / zirkzee type signing. Asking another young striker to be main source of goals. It didn't make sense when Arsenal were after him either.

Someone like Mateta with proven experience and reaching his peak would be more ideal for united, he would have be a good option if Chelsea wanted him but they have gone down youth route again. I'd have taken him at Arsenal as 2nd striker over donkeys like havertz and Merino, who look like they will be usee as back up options.

Strikers and even goalkeepers tend to peak as they get older, but everyone is more fascinated with "youth projects" at moment.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

@aboveandbeyond @topspin

It seems all the traditional top 6 sides have changed tact and now are wanting to go down the route of looking at young strikers. Main reasons for thar have been


- wanting a player who can develop over a long period of time
- resale value in future with players been young
- more youthful squads

Teams seen more focused on building younger squads for longer term, also having players with resale value. Teams are now thinking more from a buisness point of view then on the pitch

In regards to young strikers, unless your a freak of nature like Haaland, most strikers don't develop into lethal goal scorers or reach peak until mid to late 20s.

We've seen all big clubs sign or target young strikers and in the cases where they are seen to be the "main source" of goals they end up struggling under pressure.

Hjolund at united, Jackson at Chelsea are examples of that. If you look at Liverpool the have sign ekitike but he will have the luxury of having time to settle im, as Salah is there to score the bulk of the goals.

This is why Berta did a good job in seeing sense and swerving sesko. If Arteta the had his way then sesko would have been signed

Sesko going to united, makes zero sense, its just another hjolund / zirkzee type signing. Asking another young striker to be main source of goals. It didn't make sense when Arsenal were after him either.

Someone like Mateta with proven experience and reaching his peak would be more ideal for united, he would have be a good option if Chelsea wanted him but they have gone down youth route again. I'd have taken him at Arsenal as 2nd striker over donkeys like havertz and Merino, who look like they will be usee as back up options.

Strikers and even goalkeepers tend to peak as they get older, but everyone is more fascinated with "youth projects" at moment.

I get your points. I'm surprised no one's tapped up Mateta, has all the attributes of a quality CF for the Premier League. And he's 27.

 

[Mamoon]

Madueke in 10-15 mins looked much better than anything Martinelli produced in the 75+ mins he played during the game.

Martinelli was always a headless chicken, but he has actually declined even more in the last 12-15 months.

He will certainly be not playing in Europe in 3-4 years. Arsenal must make the call on him now.

There is no way Arteta and Berta can watch him play and think that Arsenal can win the PL with him as a starting LW.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Madueke in 10-15 mins looked much better than anything Martinelli produced in the 75+ mins he played during the game.

One of my previous posts I did say, Madueke could well be a decent signing for Arsenal. He has all the attributes. Just inconsistent at the moment.

 

[Mamoon]

I am happy with Madueke signing and he certainly has a higher ceiling than Martinelli but it’s very risky to play him as a starting LW this season. He is still very raw in a lot of aspects. However, I can see why the club signed him.

If Eze doesn’t get over the line, Arsenal will probably do a panic buy on deadline day but hopefully it won’t be another Sterling situation.

Leao wants to come and he is 10x the player Martinelli is. Arsenal should seriously consider it.

 

[Amjid Javed]

but but Arteta and Berta

Berta is proven in his job

Arteta is a proven failure with a fetish for other clubs left overs..

Arteta talent ID for players us beyond pathetic

Arsenal have had interest in buyers for Martinelli but the manager doesn't want to sell him. But don't let that get in the way of your Arteta humping agenda

But but I'm happy with melo, madueke, Merino, calafori. Havertz...

But but we should sign sesko as back up to havertz...

But but haverz has bulked up in the gym..

 

[Mamoon]

but but Arteta and Berta

Berta is proven in his job

Arteta is a proven failure with a fetish for other clubs left overs..

Arteta talent ID for players us beyond pathetic

Arsenal have had interest in buyers for Martinelli but the manager doesn't want to sell him. But don't let that get in the way of your Arteta humping agenda

But but I'm happy with melo, madueke, Merino, calafori. Havertz...

But but we should sign sesko as back up to havertz...

But but haverz has bulked up in the gym..

But but but Arsenal should Musiala because why not.

But but but Arsenal should have roped in Inzaghi to so that they can lose 5-0 in the CL.

But but but Ancelotti will school Arteta in the CL.

But but but Martinelli is one of the best wingers in Europe because show me wingers with 15 goals.

 

[Mamoon]

Dimwit fans don’t realize that it’s not about selling Martinelli. He is on low wages and isn’t a trouble maker. You can keep him as backup winger and play him in cup games.

The objective should be to not have him as a starting LW.

 

[MK7Z]

Martinelli was always a headless chicken, but he has actually declined even more in the last 12-15 months.

He will certainly be not playing in Europe in 3-4 years. Arsenal must make the call on him now.

There is no way Arteta and Berta can watch him play and think that Arsenal can win the PL with him as a starting LW.

You may not know this but Arteta personally blocked any potential sale of Martinelli. There was interest from Saudi - well documented. His prefers to sell Trossard it seems which I think is a bit odd as he is a good squad player.

How do you feel about this?

 

[Amjid Javed]

You may not know this but Arteta personally blocked any potential sale of Martinelli. There was interest from Saudi - well documented. His prefers to sell Trossard it seems which I think is a bit odd as he is a good squad player.

How do you feel about this?

Exactly the point i made brother

Arteta doesn't want to sell Martinelli

But let's see the excuses or the -50 IQ response he gives

 

[Mamoon]

You may not know this but Arteta personally blocked any potential sale of Martinelli. There was interest from Saudi - well documented. His prefers to sell Trossard it seems which I think is a bit odd as he is a good squad player.

How do you feel about this?

I know this and yes I would prefer to keep Trossard or Martinelli, but I don’t think selling Martinelli is a necessity unless you get a really crazy offer which hasn’t happened.

You need someone for FA Cup and League Cup matches. He can do a job there while someone else (not Madueke) assumes the first-choice LW role in the PL and the CL.

When it comes to Trossard vs Martinelli and who should be sold, there are other factors at play. It’s not just the club’s decision.

Trossard will be 31 in a few months. He might be looking for a last big paycheck and a starting role elsewhere. He is a good player and a lot of good players don’t want to be squad players at this stage of their careers. It’s not like he is 34/35.

He might be pushing for a move unlike Martinelli.

 

[Mamoon]

Exactly the point i made brother

Arteta doesn't want to sell Martinelli

But let's see the excuses or the -50 IQ response he gives

Yes because players are commodities who have no say in their future.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Worshipping a manager that has been violated in every semi final he's got to in last 5 seasons, then mocking inzaghi and Anchelloti at same time

 

[Amjid Javed]

180K a week is now low wages

Reality is Arsenal have havertz, Jesus and Martinelli who are now supposed "bench players" on high wages.

 

[Amjid Javed]

comedy gold that the cheerleader thats wants validation for this failed manager is happy with Chelsea, man city left overs being signed.

Then when other fans say the club should be targeting elite players. He comes up with lame attempts to mock some one.

Then again when you celebrating finishing 2nd, just competing. Then it's no surprise.

 

[Amjid Javed]

So Chelsea 5th choice winger and latest leftovers. Is now the saviour as he has a "high ceiling"

DR of comedy is on a roll today

 

[KingKhanWC]

It was only a friendly, result is non issue. But I assume Gyokeres scored a brace or more? If Mamoon thinks he will score 30 goals by Jan, he must of been flying last night?

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but madueke has a high ceiling

But but he was misused at Chelsea

But but Arteta will get best out of him like willian, sterling..

But but Arteta is the messiah and he's there to help rehabilitate donkeys from other clubs

 

[IAJ]

Leeds drawed 1-1 against Villareal last week. Even though these are just pre-season matches I think that was a great result for Leeds.

 

[BouncerGuy]

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