Australia [389/4] beat India [338/9] by 51 runs in the 2nd ODI

[Rana]

Mitchel Starc has been keeping India in this game

 

[Rana]

Starc. Senior professor from the university of Saini

 

[QalandarFan]

Seems like Kohli is having some lower back problems sadly...

from carrying this entire batting order in this chase.

It honestly just shows how reliant India's ODI batting line-up is on Kohli/Sharma.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Starc. Senior professor from the university of Saini

Lot of the boys are tired from IPl but money is where? In IPl. So IPL is more important for most guys unfortunately compared to bilaterals.

Money talks. People like BHag vira BHag don't understand that because he probably lives with his rich parents.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Commentary is atrocious. Not adding to the play at all. In fact taking away from a situation developing so beautifully.

 

[Snowflake]

Starc's obsession with full pitched bowling is unreal! The guy just doesn't have a plan b. On flat track like these, no wonder he's getting smoked. Horribly one dimensional bowler

 

[Ab Fan]

Kohli will love facing their best bowlers, just need to be a little wary against medium pacers like Henriques and Hazelwood.

 

[tyron_woodley]

People also need to understand that Aussies cantprepare bouncy or seaming tracks vs India in tests because it's a lottery. Indian bowling is too dangerous in seaming condtions.

Aussies are smart. They will prepare complete flat Pattas to battle India.

New Zealand won with green wickets only because they won the toss. Had toss shifted in India's favour, game would have ended differently.

Same in odi's. Best way to win is to prepare complete Pattas vs India.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Starc's obsession with full pitched bowling is unreal! The guy just doesn't have a plan b. On flat track like these, no wonder he's getting smoked. Horribly one dimensional bowler

Starc is an ATG odi bowler but he needs to bowl in seaming conditions. Flat Pattas is difficult for any bowler.

Actually medium Pacers will probably be more successful in such pitches and well err zampa for some reason.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Man Rohit would have loved these pancakes to be honest.

 

[Rana]

Good dots now

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Commentators are on to technical analysis for the last hour. Not very good either. Meanwhile there is a match going on

 

[Rana]

Much better by Starc

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Starc is an ATG odi bowler but he needs to bowl in seaming conditions. Flat Pattas is difficult for any bowler.

Actually medium Pacers will probably be more successful in such pitches and well err zampa for some reason.

ATG ODI bowler but reliant on seaming conditions? That doesn’t add up. The best bowlers know how to contain on flat tracks, no one is forcing Starc to bowl full pitched deliveries again and again and again at relatively high pace without resorting to variations. He’s a dummy, to be frank, and definitely an ATG in helpful conditions but not an overall ATG.

 

[Titan24]

I think that the lad Hussain Talat with some proper coaching could be a very handy One Day player for Pakistan because I believe he bowls the same kind of pace as Henriques and what Pandya is bowling now.

But we have Misbah and Waqar as our coaches so I don’t really see him becoming that kind of option for us

Agreed. Talat has really improved his batting overall in this season both technically as well as stokeplay wise and I said in national T20 that he can be a Stoinis level bowler. Medium pace bowling will give a decent variety to the attack as 6th option.

 

[imshally81]

At least... Rotate the strike

 

[imshally81]

Great fielding by skipper...

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Agreed. Talat has really improved his batting overall in this season and I even said in national T20 that he can be a Stoinis level bowler. Medium pace bowling will give a decent variety to the attack as 6th option.

Islamabad United needed him really badly last season, I can definitely see him developing fantastically if he picks his game up a notch in PSL 6.

 

[tyron_woodley]

ATG ODI bowler but reliant on seaming conditions? That doesn’t add up. The best bowlers know how to contain on flat tracks, no one is forcing Starc to bowl full pitched deliveries again and again and again at relatively high pace without resorting to variations. He’s a dummy, to be frank, and definitely an ATG in helpful conditions but not an overall ATG.

Tbf every bowler would struggle in these condtions. It's just not conducive to fast bowling.

Yea I suppose you could say that but which fast bowler is truly good at dead tracks in odi? No one tbh. Bumrah had his moments but even he struggled recently in flat Pattas.

 

[Titan24]

One of these two will need to go into hitting mode soon.

 

[Titan24]

Islamabad United needed him really badly last season, I can definitely see him developing fantastically if he picks his game up a notch in PSL 6.

I hope he is given a full tournament. Most franchises especially IU in last season fill most of their batting with overseas players. There should be a decent balance so that local batsmen also get a chance.

 

[imshally81]

Lot of dot balls... It will hurt later...

 

[Suleiman]

It honestly just shows how reliant India's ODI batting line-up is on Kohli/Sharma.

Yep, the others are kind of half baked. Shikhar needs Rohit with him to ease off the pressure, he’s not at the same level to take initiative and last long in a chase like this. I had big expectations from KL Rahul too, I think he has the same level of talent as Rohit and Kohli but again, hasn’t matured.

Pandya is the other solid one.

 

[MP2011]

Rahul's strike rate is way too low.

 

[Rana]

India slowing down

 

[tyron_woodley]

Best bowlers in complete flat pancakes have to be medium fast bowlers tbh. Judging but the records.

 

[MHN1293]

200 needed from 20. assuming they get 70 or 80 from the first still 120 will be needed from last 10. anything is possible until kohli is still there

 

[Ab Fan]

kL Rahul preparing for test cricket

 

[tyron_woodley]

Yep, the others are kind of half baked. Shikhar needs Rohit with him to ease off the pressure, he’s not at the same level to take initiative and last long in a chase like this. I had big expectations from KL Rahul too, I think he has the same level of talent as Rohit and Kohli but again, hasn’t matured.

Pandya is the other solid one.

Under lights it's harder bro. Had it been evening, ball would be easier to see.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Were Starc and Saini in the same IPL team lol?

 

[Rana]

Kohli can make 180 odd here and win the game

 

[MP2011]

Rahul's strike rate was an issue in IPL as well and at that time he famously said, strike rate is overrated in T20s.

 

[Titan24]

Mathew Wade looking pretty old at 32 with his white beard hair.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

KL Rahul playing slower than old Dhoni here.

 

[Snowflake]

I truly think Starc is one of the easiest bowlers to hit. You always know what you're gonna get from here - fast, straight and full. There's no variation other than an odd bouncer..

 

[imshally81]

66666

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

KL Rahul hits a six finally

 

[MP2011]

Six from Rahul.

 

[tyron_woodley]

KL Rahul playing slower than old Dhoni here.

Bring back Dhoni?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

India bowled relatively full and at pace and got dispatched.Australians have bowled slower short balls more often. Only Pandya did that for us ironically.

 

[Rana]

I think Henriques has done his job. Needs a break

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Let's see how Pandya plays today when big hitting is expected from him.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

KL Rahul playing slower than old Dhoni here.

Dhoni in his last couple of years was striking at 70. KL at almost 90

 

[tyron_woodley]

India bowled relatively full and at pace and got dispatched.Australians have bowled slower short balls more often. Only Pandya did that for us ironically.

Like I said Indians are a bit dumb when they tour away in general.
This is medium pace heaven. I am more scared of Henriques and Hazelwood who is the slowest of the 6 fast bowlers today.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Bring back Dhoni?

Nope. Just surprising to see no one is criticising him for playing slow and killing the momentum.

 

[PakPremi]

Where are Australian fans?
It seems the the match is being played in India.

 

[tyron_woodley]

India bowled relatively full and at pace and got dispatched.Australians have bowled slower short balls more often. Only Pandya did that for us ironically.

Saini says f it. Just bowl fast bro.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

350 is chaseable. 390 is too much here.

 

[Titan24]

Rahul's strike rate was an issue in IPL as well and at that time he famously said, strike rate is overrated in T20s.

In his thread I mentioned few times, that he prefers playing against new ball like most natural openers and unfortunately he still isnt 100% comfortably in the middle order with open field, older ball and pace variations. He has the ability but, will have to adapt quickly. Never easy for an opening batsman since younger days to develop game for middle order. Its easy the other way round if someone has decent technique like Rohit to become an opener.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Where are Australian fans?
It seems the the match is being played in India.

It is nice to see actualy crowd in the stadium.

 

[tyron_woodley]

I truly believe Indian bowlers are dumb when it comes to analysing pitches. They need to study better.

That's what happens when India board doesn't let bowlers go overseas to play franchize cricket or county.

 

[Rana]

Good match this

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Like I said Indians are a bit dumb when they tour away in general.
This is medium pace heaven. I am more scared of Henriques and Hazelwood who is the slowest of the 6 fast bowlers today.

Also I think Australia had 50 overs to assess what to bowl here and and are bowling on a more used deck. Small margins but these are inevitable in international cricket. Kohli and co. need to learn and learn fast

 

[MP2011]

Back to back 4s from Rahul

 

[PakPremi]

It is nice to see actualy crowd in the stadium.

Yes it is that is why I am wondering why more Aussies fans did not turn up

 

[MP2011]

In his thread I mentioned few times, that he prefers playing against new ball like most natural openers and unfortunately he still isnt 100% comfortably in the middle order with open field, older ball and pace variations. He has the ability but, will have to adapt quickly. Never easy for an opening batsman since younger days to develop game for middle order. Its easy the other way round if someone has decent technique like Rohit to become an opener.

This is true. I think Dhawan is easily dispensable as an opener.

 

[Rana]

If Australia don’t choke they should win this

 

[MP2011]

Back to back 4s from Rahul

And then back to back dots to end the over.

 

[Hitman]

350 is chaseable. 390 is too much here.

Exactly. 390 is just way too much. I’m still keeping a faint hope.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Excellent understanding of pitch Condtion and tactical brilliance by Aussies. They really know how to analyse pitches in their country. Smart boys. Good game so far.

 

[Titan24]

Rahul’s strokeplay is fine but lack of strike rotation really puts pressure on him and the team. With so many shots he still has SR of less than 100. If he would have converted atleast 50% of his dots to singles or doubles, his SR would have been much higher

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

If Australia don’t choke they should win this

Bhai req runrate is 10.35

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Saini says f it. Just bowl fast bro.

They all did that . On the other hand , even Starc is taking pace off now and making it harder to hit.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Yes it is that is why I am wondering why more Aussies fans did not turn up

Bro honest truth yea. Aussies these days post 2010 don't care about cricket. Their main sport is rugby league or AFL then it's cricket after. Cricket is number 2 or 3. Cricket is a bit of an exclusive elitist sport here. You need money to play. It's very expensive.

 

[Ab Fan]

We have a strong top 6 and our batsmen have showed us. Chasing is never easy.

 

[MP2011]

Rahul’s strokeplay is fine but lack of strike rotation really puts pressure on him and the team. With so many shots he still has SR of less than 100. If he would have converted atleast 50% of his dots to singles or doubles, his SR would have been much higher

Precisely. Too many dots in his innings

 

[tyron_woodley]

They all did that . On the other hand , even Starc is taking pace off now and making it harder to hit.

Tbf condtions were more batting friendly earlier during the day. Also ball was more visible.

 

[Rana]

Bhai req runrate is 10.35

KL is looking dangerous out there bro

 

[MP2011]

And when you are chasing almost 400, it's criminal to bat at a strike rate less than a run a ball.

 

[Gilly]

Yes it is that is why I am wondering why more Aussies fans did not turn up

The crowd size is limited due to corona virus. Most stadiums are only allowed half capacity.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Tbf condtions were more batting friendly earlier during the day. Also ball was more visible.

True. I'll be happy if they reach 360 and lose.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Kohli should attack Champa

 

[Madplayer]

As of now you cannot comment on Kohli's knock. It can either prove to be absolutely rubbish if he gets out or absolute genius if he pulls off the chase.

 

[Madplayer]

True. I'll be happy if they reach 360 and lose.

Molaar victory.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Tbf condtions were more batting friendly earlier during the day. Also ball was more visible.

True. I'll be happy if they reach 360 and lose.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Molaar victory.

Moral victory, you mean

 

[Nikhil_cric]

As of now you cannot comment on Kohli's knock. It can either prove to be absolutely rubbish if he gets out or absolute genius if he pulls off the chase.

335 + has never been chased in Australia by anyone.

 

[Abdullah Rabbani]

How many time Pakistan chased 300+ this decade out of ?

 

[Madplayer]

Moral victory, you mean

For some reason i wanted to use Modiji's style when he said Dolaand trump. Hence, Molaar victory

 

[imshally81]

Kholi gone