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Australia v England | 3rd Ashes Test | Perth | Day 2 | 14/12/2013

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OZ will provably de trolled for between 350 and 370, good score at the WACA I think. I'm looking forward to seeing us bowl here

Nass reckons that, because there is no sideways movement and the ball is coming on nicely that this is the best batting wicket of the series, and that AUS are no more than par on it.

Dare I say it - Chef looking good so far....
 
Nass reckons that, because there is no sideways movement and the ball is coming on nicely that this is the best batting wicket of the series, and that AUS are no more than par on it.

Dare I say it - Chef looking good so far....

I guess it would all come down to how your batsmen handle the bounce. I hope they duck instead of going for the pull or swaying out of the way.
 
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This is a good batting surface & has draw written all over it unless the pitch deteriorates dramatically due to high temperatures on day 4 & 5 .
 
Watto needs to be dropped.

Bottler with the bat and trundler with the ball. Is holding this team back
 
i reckon England will get a small lead in 1st innings . Wonder why the commies were saying match over if Aus get 375 .
 
Six of the best from Cranberry.

What a truly gorgeous partnership. Left-handed class. Hopefully it continues.
 
Test may get a good finish. First time, Eng batsmen are playing well.
 
Harris stretching his leg/knee between deliveries. He almost didn't pass a fitness test before the game.
 

It won't be difficult to be a draw. It's a fast scoring pitch and Eng/Aus have a fragile batting. Both have a tendency to collapse.

If Eng can bat big in their first inning then Aus may fold cheaply second time.
 
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Man Carberry took it personally when I dissed him. :)))

Props to him. :14:

EDIT: Jinxed him :facepalm:
 
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England playing with passion here , they want to prove a point.

Can they win this and make the series alive ?
 
I feel Clarke should try smith here for couple of overs .... it will change the pace of bowling a bit. He should also look to slow things down a bit.
 
Carberry is the English Farhat. Plays at it. Misses it and moves his bat inside to make it look like he left it lol
 
80 to 120 is where we lost heck of a lot of wickets in every inns and it seems it had started again.
 
Boycott : "If England keep batting until tomorrow afternoon, Mitchell Johnson will be two feet shorter, not as fast and not as scary."
 
Another wicket before tea is important if Aus wish to stay in game.
 
First contentious decision of the summer goes Australia's way. Root given out by Erasmus, appeals for DRS, after a long review the 3rd umpire Tony Hill decides not enough evidence to overturn so Root has to go. Personally I think it was not out but because the initial decision was out it goes against Root.
 
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Extremely weak umpiring. A complaint should be lodged.

Even Watto knew it wasn't really out by the end.
 
Perhaps it was not as appalling as the Khawaja decision last series, but still pretty bad
 
I don't mind the on-field decision, looked out the first time I saw it but 3rd umpire just awful
 
First time in the series a player has been well and truly sawn off. A shame.
 
Boycott : "I don't mind the umpires taking their time over these things. They need to make sure they get the right decision. Joe Root might not have nicked that but the guidelines are that there needs to be clear evidence for the umpire's decision to be overturned."
 
Extremely weak umpiring. A complaint should be lodged.

Even Watto knew it wasn't really out by the end.

It was a mistake by Erasmus initially IMO and the way the DRS works, if there is not enough evidence then the initial mistake gets reinforced. The question becomes how much is not enough evidence?

Not as bad as the Khawaja decision but you can sort of understand how that felt like for us. When you're struggling in the series and you get a bad one it feels twice as bad.
 
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Boycott : "I don't mind the umpires taking their time over these things. They need to make sure they get the right decision. Joe Root might not have nicked that but the guidelines are that there needs to be clear evidence for the umpire's decision to be overturned."

Disappointed with this. Athers and Nasser are being apologists as well.

Come on you ex-players, grow a spine and bat for England. Poor stuff.
 
Disappointed with this. Athers and Nasser are being apologists as well.

Come on you ex-players, grow a spine and bat for England. Poor stuff.

but the protocol has to be followed James .
 
It was a mistake by Erasmus initially IMO and the way the DRS works, if there is not enough evidence then the initial mistake gets reinforced. The question becomes how much is not enough evidence?

Not as bad as the Khawaja decision though that someone else brought up

I think that's a bit of flaw in DRS. Depending on what the field umpire thought initially, you are going to get different final results after consulting third the umpire. Here it was very marginal but it's ridiculous when it comes to ball hitting the stumps.
 
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It was a mistake by Erasmus initially IMO and the way the DRS works, if there is not enough evidence then the initial mistake gets reinforced. The question becomes how much is not enough evidence?

Not as bad as the Khawaja decision but you can sort of understand how that felt like for us. When you're struggling in the series and you get a bad one it feels twice as bad.

It was weak of Marais to give in to the appeal on the field, and even weaker of the 3rd umpire to not overturn a blatantly wrong decision. The rear camera view displayed a clear gap between bat and ball. Just really poor human failure, even worse when you consider that the technology truly is fantastic and this should have been an example of when it worked.
 
It was a mistake by Erasmus initially IMO and the way the DRS works, if there is not enough evidence then the initial mistake gets reinforced. The question becomes how much is not enough evidence?

Not as bad as the Khawaja decision but you can sort of understand how that felt like for us. When you're struggling in the series and you get a bad one it feels twice as bad.

Problem is the rules with DRS. The 3rd umpire decision should aim to get the correct decision, not support the on-field decision
 
Problem is the rules with DRS. The 3rd umpire decision should aim to get the correct decision, not support the on-field decision

Precisely.

I hope Bob blasts the whole thing apart on the Verdict later. :rondu
 
Problem is the rules with DRS. The 3rd umpire decision should aim to get the correct decision, not support the on-field decision

I doubt it will change. A bigger fuss was made of the Khawaja decision, CA asked for a letter of explanation from the ICC. Nothing happened there and nothing will happen here either IMO.
 
Khawaja was screwed big time. He should have gotten compensation for the damage that did to his career.
 
Last session & 37 overs to go . If Aus can some how take 2 more wickets today then the match will be nicely poised & draw will become a remote possibility .
 
Khawaja was screwed big time. He should have gotten compensation for the damage that did to his career.

Pretty much ended his international career, though he did a lot of damage to that on his own IMO.
 
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