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Australia v Pakistan | 1st Test | Brisbane | Dec 15-19, 2016 | Day 3

MMHS said:
Any one is welcome to fade away after around 75 International hundreds - most of those in winning effort.
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I don't think he will fall away like you think, he doesn't seem to relay on his hand eye coordination as much now. His technique looks tighter. Should get 30 plus test centuries and 20 plus in Odis.
 
Hasan123 said:
I don't think he will fall away like you think, he doesn't seem to relay on his hand eye coordination as much now. His technique looks tighter. Should get 30 plus test centuries and 20 plus in Odis.
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Have you read my post :(

30+20 = 50 .................. I thought, I made it like 35+38......
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I believe in our team.

That's why I believe we won't get there.
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Aim big reach higher. All we need are two batsmen to stand up and score big daddy hundreds. Leave the rest of the scoring to other batsmen. Play flamboyant attacking cricket.
 
Zohaib Shah said:
Aim big reach higher. All we need are two batsmen to stand up and score big daddy hundreds. Leave the rest of the scoring to other batsmen. Play flamboyant attacking cricket.
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:)))

Sami Aslam 17 in 100 balls

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Azhar Ali ..... 5 in 50 balls....
 
Zohaib Shah said:
Aim big reach higher. All we need are two batsmen to stand up and score big daddy hundreds. Leave the rest of the scoring to other batsmen. Play flamboyant attacking cricket.
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The last time the Pakistan batsman attempted to play "flamboyant" cricket they ended up 60/6.
 
shaaik said:
Bumble can be matched .. r u serious about that ?
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English is Bumble's mother tongue, but he hasn't gone beyond high school. His cricket explanation is very good, which WY also can match, particularly for bowling analysis, but Bumbles use of English words are not that rich - he knows lots of cricket jargon & English cliches, but you listen to Authers, Coney (Jeremy), Blofield, Cozier, Brearly .... even Imran; you 'll find the difference with an OxBrdige Grad. From India, Shastri is extremely enchanting, but listen carefully the words Harsha uses to express something out of cricket, actually represents an IMA graduate.
 
Btw didn't see the early session when Pak were batting

Did Sarfaraz try to save the tailender a and take the strike?
 
Hopefully openers will stick there for today. If they get out we will see a collapse.
 
Slog said:
Btw didn't see the early session when Pak were batting

Did Sarfaraz try to save the tailender a and take the strike?
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With Amir no, ran at every opportunity.

But he hogged the strike when batting with Rahat.
 
MMHS said:
English is Bumble's mother tongue, but he hasn't gone beyond high school. His cricket explanation is very good, which WY also can match, particularly for bowling analysis, but Bumbles use of English words are not that rich - he knows lots of cricket jargon & English cliches, but you listen to Authers, Coney (Jeremy), Blofield, Cozier, Brearly .... even Imran; you 'll find the difference with an OxBrdige Grad. From India, Shastri is extremely enchanting, but listen carefully the words Harsha uses to express something out of cricket, actually represents an IMA graduate.
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Agreed that English is Bumbles first and may be only language but comparing his English to waqar's even for the lack of vocabulary is beyond my comprehension. Waqar not only has a limited vocabulary but the grammatical errors that he makes are luagable for someone who knows a bit of English.
 
And now we see which Pakistan batsmen are salvageable on this tour.

Who, if anyone, possesses any low-risk offside scoring shots in the way that Salman Butt and Umar Akmal have each displayed in two separate tours of Australia?

I think Babar has the skills, but I'm not sure whether he has the discipline.

Azhar and Sami I expect to crawl to low scores, then get out.

I would add that I'd seriously consider sending Wahab, Yasir and Amir in ahead of Younis, Misbah and Shafiq to try to save some batting for daylight tomorrow.
 
Hasan123 said:
75 centuries is a lot, can't say for certain he will get that much.
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Not in modern rate - Bradman played 52 Tests in 20 years, excluding 6 for war & he himself dropped out on financial dispute for 2 Tests & one Series* - that's about 75 Tests in 20 Years max. Smith is 27, extremely fit & doesn't play T20 much - next 6/7 years he is going to be at his prime - say about 75 Tests & 200 ODI in that period (roughly 2023 WC) - he has 16 Test hundreds - I add another 19 (1 for every 4 Tests) & about 25 ODI hundres - that takes him to around 67-68 by the time he is 35 - another couple of years, he should reach close to 75, 70+ definitely.

*This same man, almost sacked Ian Chappel for asking a higher share of price money for his players - which eventually led Chappel to take his team to WSC. This is one incidence Bradman lost to Chappels - in 1932, he opted to sit out an Ashes Test on payment dispute, but his team didn't follow him - 15 to Aussie cricketers went with their Captain, knowing that it could have ended their International career.
 
We need a shutdown for 3 days here....Need to channel our Inner Hanif Mohammad here
 
Finally, Smith understood boss's strategic declaration (only after 490 on board:()
 
QalandarFan said:
Meanwhile England are batting really well for there 8th wicket Partnership 89 (224)
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Those 2 No. 8 & No. 9 has in total 13K FC runs at 35 with 18 hundreds in between them -unfortunately playing cricket for wrong reason.
 
MMHS said:
Not in modern rate - Bradman played 52 Tests in 20 years, excluding 6 for war & he himself dropped out on financial dispute for 2 Tests & one Series* - that's about 75 Tests in 20 Years max. Smith is 27, extremely fit & doesn't play T20 much - next 6/7 years he is going to be at his prime - say about 75 Tests & 200 ODI in that period (roughly 2023 WC) - he has 16 Test hundreds - I add another 19 (1 for every 4 Tests) & about 25 ODI hundres - that takes him to around 67-68 by the time he is 35 - another couple of years, he should reach close to 75, 70+ definitely.

*This same man, almost sacked Ian Chappel for asking a higher share of price money for his players - which eventually led Chappel to take his team to WSC. This is one incidence Bradman lost to Chappels - in 1932, he opted to sit out an Ashes Test on payment dispute, but his team didn't follow him - 15 to Aussie cricketers went with their Captain, knowing that it could have ended their International career.
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When you put it like that it doesn't seem a lot.
 
Hasan123 said:
When you put it like that it doesn't seem a lot.
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He has scored 7 ODI hundreds in his last 50 or so innings - at this rate, he should reach 35 ODI hundreds in career in modern ODI days and may be another 35-40 Test hundreds; so barring serious injury like Clarke, he should reach around 75 Internationals.
 
MMHS said:
4-1, or may be 5-0 to the hosts - Test matches hardly ends in draw these days, even less in Aussie land. Last time, I lost it by little margin - thought Swan will win a Test at SCG, but he flew away before that.

Every team is HTB these days, but Aussies & Indians are brutal at home. AUS will not do the day dreaming with Kieth Miller, sorry Mitch Marsh - 6 batsmen + WK + Starc, Josh, Patinson/Cummins & a spinner/pacer. Against Pom spinners, you'll see the monsters out of Warner & Khwaja - add to that Shaun Marsh at 5; Smith is always good.
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With Renshaw, Handscomb, Wade and Maddison- their batting looks a little fragile against Broad and Woakes. I think the next Ashes will be an exciting Test series, England and Aussies are getting good practice ahead. Aussies lost to Proteas recently, couldn't play Phillander and Abott, England doesn't have bowlers for Aussie conditions so yeah I reckon 3-2 or 2-2 :boycott
 
Sami has scored more in 4 balls than he scored in 1st hour yesterday - PAK is going for it!!!!!
 
Why did Aussies declare, they aren't as ruthless as before. Should have given a target of 600+ :facepalm: Aussies are soft under smith
 
I see a lot of people on this thread having a time of their life ...........
 
SAMI boy is out with a different approach today.

Doing well so far. Clearly no lack of ability.

Good stuff.
 
Azhar Ali looks like he's going to get out ANY second.

He's very poor against pace and movement.
 
If Azhar doesn't score today he should never play again in countries like Australia, NZ or South Africa. He is only good for flat tracks of UAE.
 
MMHS said:
He has scored 7 ODI hundreds in his last 50 or so innings - at this rate, he should reach 35 ODI hundreds in career in modern ODI days and may be another 35-40 Test hundreds; so barring serious injury like Clarke, he should reach around 75 Internationals.
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At home in odis he's nearly impossible to stop, he averages about 35 away for home in odis needs to improve that.

Clarke could have a lot more centuries had it not been for his back injury
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
With Renshaw, Handscomb, Wade and Maddison- their batting looks a little fragile against Broad and Woakes. I think the next Ashes will be an exciting Test series, England and Aussies are getting good practice ahead. Aussies lost to Proteas recently, couldn't play Phillander and Abott, England doesn't have bowlers for Aussie conditions so yeah I reckon 3-2 or 2-2 :boycott
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Do you think 32 years old Berbi is going to bang it on Aussie wickets? Jimmi was never an Aussie wicket bowler, while Woakes won't make the playing XI. You have to catch Aussies either with swing or spin - MashAllah, England has Bhai, Bhai & Bhai to take care of spin; but not much in conventional swing department. On contrary, Aussies are going to unleash 4 hit the deck pacers against Poms. Root's AUS tour doesn't encourage me that ENG will have a 600 runs batsman like Cook or Vaughn. If every Test ends in result, Poms won't win more than one - may be the Adelaide D/N one with their green top bowlers; but at Gabba, WACA, SCG & MCG, I don't see ENG putting enough fight against that barrage of 140km & 6'5"+ 3 men pace attack.
 
Azhar missed 2 scoring opportunities in that over :facepalm:

We need to see off the new ball than take it from there. Think the key in Australia is seeing off Hazelwood and Starc early because the 3rd seamer and Lyon aren't as good. We should be positive against Lyon, Australia only have 4 bowlers so being positive vs Lyon will cause Smith problems.
 
Sun starting to set.

The tough part starts in about ten minutes.....
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
Come on Starc, pick some wickets, rattle the stumps
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Starc will give boundary balls they must be put away. Hazelwood bowls a good line and length so he won't give as many away.
 
Josh will definitely end as the more successful Test bowler of the pair. His length is exactly what modern pacers should bowl against batsmen batting with planted feet & little measure of off-stick.
 
Subhan Allah - He showed, I saw .... Azhar's bent knee cover drive has crossed the inner boundary for a single .....
 
Ian Healy sees black people on the TV:

"Could be the Caribbean from the look of it"
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Brisbane is 3rd or 4th city in Australia?
 
One good adjustment Sami has already made that he is waiting for the ball come on to bat, rather than reach for it like Azhar. He is probably a better player of spin than pace.
 
MMHS said:
Subhan Allah - He showed, I saw .... Azhar's bent knee cover drive has crossed the inner boundary for a single .....
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If he can survive 50 balls or so he will look better at the crease. Against nz in the 2nd game 2nd innings once he survived the early period he looked much more comfortable
 
MMHS said:
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Brisbane is 3rd or 4th city in Australia?
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Third.

Sydney 5 million
Melbourne 4.5 million
Brisbane 2 million (plus 0.7 million Gold Coast and 0.4 million Sunshine Coast)
Adelaide and Perth 1 million

But the Gabba is an ugly uncomfortable concrete bowl, whereas the Adelaide Oval makes for a lovely day out.
 
I m already looking forward to MCG i think we might do well there. Its quite good track, lets see we have made come backs in the past like England tour. Can we do it here again, MCG will be yasir shah game to be won.
 
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MMHS said:
One good adjustment Sami has already made that he is waiting for the ball come on to bat, rather than reach for it like Azhar. He is probably a better player of spin than pace.
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Na , mediocre against spin.
 
MMHS said:
One good adjustment Sami has already made that he is waiting for the ball come on to bat, rather than reach for it like Azhar. He is probably a better player of spin than pace.
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Sami has it all. Was not expressing himself in the first innings, maybe trying to spend as much time there as possible.

Which is what any new opener in Aus would to tbh.

And yes Azhar pushes a lot, will probably edge one soon.
 
Hasan123 said:
If he can survive 50 balls or so he will look better at the crease. Against nz in the 2nd game 2nd innings once he survived the early period he looked much more comfortable
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He is a good Test opener, no question in that - but he should retire from ODI.
 
MMHS said:
One good adjustment Sami has already made that he is waiting for the ball come on to bat, rather than reach for it like Azhar. He is probably a better player of spin than pace.
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I think he's pretty comfortable against pace. Has a decent amount of time when he plays pace, especially if the ball is on the off stump. Struggles with bodyline stuff though.
 
Hawkeye said:
Sami has it all. Was not expressing himself in the first innings, maybe trying to spend as much time there as possible.

Which is what any new opener in Aus would to tbh.

And yes Azhar pushes a lot, will probably edge one soon.
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It's not Azhar's fault - I can recall his 91* at Oval on a far difficult circumstances. But, since then, he has built his career on Clay Court tennis mood; which is lunge forward to short of length ball that never raises over knee, neither moves off the wicket. That bad habit has crippled his shot making instinct & distorted his balance - if PAK plays lots of Test in next 2/3 years in UAE without touring much, Babar will become similar & his back-lift with vanish.
 
MMHS said:
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Brisbane is 3rd or 4th city in Australia?
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Junaids said:
Third.

Sydney 5 million
Melbourne 4.5 million
Brisbane 2 million (plus 0.7 million Gold Coast and 0.4 million Sunshine Coast)
Adelaide and Perth 1 million

But the Gabba is an ugly uncomfortable concrete bowl, whereas the Adelaide Oval makes for a lovely day out.
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There is a sunbelt effect to immigration and internal migration.

Oriental immigrants move to Sydney and Indian immigrants move to Melbourne.

But the more knowledgable immigrants from South Africa and England move to Perth, and Aussie and New Zealand people move to Brisbane / Gold Coast / Sunshine Coast.
 
Australia is Lucky that they got us all out last nihht. Otherwise we would done well here to save the match. We are batting under lights 2wice now. All because of our poor fielding and poor batting, there is nothing in the track. Pakistan always get bullied by Australia everytime we come here. Pakistan need to man up and take the fight to Australia and give them back, i wish we had batsmen like KOHLI..😩
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Are we really doing this mate ?? Because trust me, we're WILL return the favor in full when you lot play next !!
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Doing what? Just want to watch the highlights of Starc picking up some wickets. Returning favor? What do you mean homeboy ? :butt
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
Australia is Lucky that they got us all out last nihht. Otherwise we would done well here to save the match. We are batting under lights 2wice now. All because of our poor fielding and poor batting, there is nothing in the track. Pakistan always get bullied by Australia everytime we come here. Pakistan need to man up and take the fight to Australia and give them back, i wish we had batsmen like KOHLI..��
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Would not have made a difference.
 
Junaids said:
There is a sunbelt effect to immigration and internal migration.

Oriental immigrants move to Sydney and Indian immigrants move to Melbourne.

But the more knowledgable immigrants from South Africa and England move to Perth, and Aussie and New Zealand people move to Brisbane / Gold Coast / Sunshine Coast.
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Here, everyone moves to Toronto, though it's -18C right now :(

Anyway boss, how long this pair need to bat to make sure that Sulman doesn't need to fix the opening pair?
 
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