Australia v Pakistan | 1st Test | Brisbane | Dec 15-19, 2016 | Day 3

[street cricketer]

Any one is welcome to fade away after around 75 International hundreds - most of those in winning effort.

That depends on the bowling effort.

Virat matched Smith blow for blow and hit 4 tons in Australia, yet none of them came in a winning cause. I don't expect many of Smith or Root's hundreds to come at a winning cause in Asia just like Virat outside asia mainly due to the caliber of their respective bowling attacks in respective conditions.

 

[MMHS]

Josh is like Ash - on favorable condition, he'll ask question with every ball

 

[Junaids]

Here, everyone moves to Toronto, though it's -18C right now

Anyway boss, how long this pair need to bat to make sure that Sulman doesn't need to fix the opening pair?

I don't want Butt to replace Azhar or Aslam.

I want Aslam to open with Butt, with Azhar at 3 and Babar at 4.

It's getting windy and dark clouds have arrived. There is a thunderstorm west of the city.

The hard batting stage starts now, but Hazlewood and Starc are tired.

Smith should have declared 30 minutes before Dinner so that Starc and Hazlewood would be fresh now that the sun is setting.

 

[JibranAnsari]

pakistan going back to usual.

 

[Saeed]

Why does Azhar look so uncomfortable? Bat with confidence or you will get out.

 

[JibranAnsari]

I don't want Butt to replace Azhar or Aslam.

I want Aslam to open with Butt, with Azhar at 3 and Babar at 4.

It's getting windy and dark clouds have arrived. There is a thunderstorm west of the city.

The hard batting stage starts now, but Hazlewood and Starc are tired.

Smith should have declared 30 minutes before Dinner so that Starc and Hazlewood would be fresh now that the sun is setting.

azhar playing at 2 positions , he must be special.

 

[MMHS]

Till his 50 against Kiwis, Mac probably had more Test wickets than run.
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] - who is the cricketer with 200+ wickets but almost half Test runs in career?

 

[Madplayer]

Josh is like Ash - on favorable condition, he'll ask question with every ball

Do u think josh has the potential to come close to mcgrath level?

 

[Convict]

Till his 50 against Kiwis, Mac probably had more Test wickets than run.
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] - who is the cricketer with 200+ wickets but almost half Test runs in career?

Chris Martin?

 

[QalandarFan]

Till his 50 against Kiwis, Mac probably had more Test wickets than run.
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] - who is the cricketer with 200+ wickets but almost half Test runs in career?

I know it's Chris Martin! Who doesn't know that!

 

[Convict]

Do u think josh has the potential to come close to mcgrath level?

Hazlewood is a good chance to take 400 test wickets

 

[Madplayer]

Gone sami

 

[QalandarFan]

Out first wicket gone!

 

[Madplayer]

And it begins

 

[Saeed]

Collapse coming now.

 

[Slog]

And it begins

Peace out fellas

 

[Junaids]

Both openers have been driving balls which are short enough to leave.

Tough for Babar to arrive in rapidly changing light conditions.

 

[MMHS]

I don't want Butt to replace Azhar or Aslam.

I want Aslam to open with Butt, with Azhar at 3 and Babar at 4.

It's getting windy and dark clouds have arrived. There is a thunderstorm west of the city.

The hard batting stage starts now, but Hazlewood and Starc are tired.

Smith should have declared 30 minutes before Dinner so that Starc and Hazlewood would be fresh now that the sun is setting.

Why should Babar & Azhar move down to accommodate Butts? Besides, why should PAK break a left-right pair to make it left-left? Besides, it's not that Butta is 22 - that he makes a pair with Sami for a decade.

Sami gone.

 

[JibranAnsari]

it starts

 

[QalandarFan]

It's gonna be very difficult to bat under lights! Hope these two can see off the session.

 

[Hawkeye]

Damn. It starts.

 

[uberkoen]

Poor really. Did not expect him to play that one.

 

[MMHS]

I know it's Chris Martin! Who doesn't know that!

Martin does have 200 Test wickets , but there is another one with 250+ wickets as well.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

We should get as much practice we can for next game. Sami played a poor shot honestly there is nothing special about starc, he could easily be negotiated.

 

[MMHS]

Do u think josh has the potential to come close to mcgrath level?

Close to is fine - I won't go beyond that.

 

[Junaids]

Why should Babar & Azhar move down to accommodate Butts? Besides, why should PAK break a left-right pair to make it left-left? Besides, it's not that Butta is 22 - that he makes a pair with Sami for a decade.

Sami gone.

Butt is the only Pakistani with the offside game to thrive in Australia.

The next two games are red ball games.

Put him wherever. Just make sure he's there.

 

[MMHS]

Bagwat Chandra had 260+ (264?) Test wickets & ~170 runs. For his FC teams, famously once his Captain declared when 9th wicket went down on 1st ball of the over.

 

[Slog]

The way Junaids talks about Salman Butt makes it seems as if his game and skill level was greater than Hayden, Lara and Sobers combined

 

[Bilal7]

If we can make it to the end of the day without another wicket down and day 4 washes out, we do have a chance of drawing this game. Batting is easier in the first two sessions.

 

[Adnan_Ilyas]

Runs are drying up and pressure is growing. Come on boya

 

[Ellipsism]

Babar solid in defence.

 

[MMHS]

Butt is the only Pakistani with the offside game to thrive in Australia.

The next two games are red ball games.

Put him wherever. Just make sure he's there.

This is I partially agree - may be at 6 or 7 (not joking), when ideally you expect to face the 2nd ball. And a lefti in middle order is like gold.

 

[uberkoen]

If we can make it to the end of the day without another wicket down and day 4 washes out, we do have a chance of drawing this game. Batting is easier in the first two sessions.

There's a chance of washout tomorrow?

Even if we get a washout tomorrow, we'll still have to play over a 100 overs and that should be sufficient for the Aussies to win the game

 

[Junaids]

Martin does have 200 Test wickets , but there is another one with 250+ wickets as well.

Chandrasekhar?

 

[QalandarFan]

Martin does have 200 Test wickets , but there is another one with 250+ wickets as well.

Bhagwath Chandrasekhar??

 

[Ellipsism]

There's a chance of washout tomorrow?

Even if we get a washout tomorrow, we'll still have to play over a 100 overs and that should be sufficient for the Aussies to win the game

Some showers in the morning and that's just about it.

Brisbane has one of the best drainage systems in world cricket.

 

[uberkoen]

The way Junaids talks about Salman Butt makes it seems as if his game and skill level was greater than Hayden, Lara and Sobers combined

The guy averages 45 against Australia.

 

[Boxer]

The way Junaids talks about Salman Butt makes it seems as if his game and skill level was greater than Hayden, Lara and Sobers combined

nah not better, but better than the current batch of jokers out there.

 

[Junaids]

The way Junaids talks about Salman Butt makes it seems as if his game and skill level was greater than Hayden, Lara and Sobers combined

He's a guy the same age as Azhar Ali, a decade younger than Misbah or Younis, who averages 42 in Australia.

 

[Slog]

The guy averages 45 against Australia.

Yes that is an ok record at best

And if you go in detail you would see it's either boom or bust with one of the centuries coming in a dead rubber

Also the small fact that he hasn't played outside Pakistan for 6.5 years.

And while he was great in the QeA final he was at best, decent if you look at the domestic season in its entitety

 

[MMHS]

In nets, it should be made a rule that batsmen don't wear helmet - this is creating false feel of security & modern players don't keep their eyes on bouncer. Babar was complete blind at that bouncer & offered his head. Unless, batsmen are made to watch the ball till it passes their ear or nose, don't think it's going to improve.

ICC might help them though by modernizing the game further - anything over shoulder at 135km is No ball & bowler's next over will be a free over

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

A wicket here practically kills it. Momentum leaves at least a glimmer of hope.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

Butt is the only Pakistani with the offside game to thrive in Australia.

The next two games are red ball games.

Put him wherever. Just make sure he's there.

Bas kar bhai mere. That Fixer need to be kept away forever, don't understand why PCB didnt Ban him for Life a captain sold his country...

He was nothing special, had few good innings against aussies when he came to the scene. Apart from that he was mediocre player. I rather get Rizwan to open for us in the future.

 

[JibranAnsari]

8 runs in last 10 ovrs

 

[Bilal7]

There's a chance of washout tomorrow?

Even if we get a washout tomorrow, we'll still have to play over a 100 overs and that should be sufficient for the Aussies to win the game

90 overs. This is Australia, not India. We will have a chance, which is what I said.

 

[MMHS]

In olden days, when it was difficult to connect through analog phone, once Ironmonger's wife call him at SCG dressing room sometimes in summer of 1920s, when he went for batting. So, his colleague told his wife that Henry has gone to bat - "no problem, I can wait for few minutes" - replied missus.

 

[QalandarFan]

Runs have slowed up. But I just hope we don't lose another wicket today.

 

[uberkoen]

90 overs. This is Australia, not India. We will have a chance, which is what I said.

Over a hundred overs including the overs being played today.

 

[MMHS]

90 overs. This is Australia, not India. We will have a chance, which is what I said.

98 overs will be played on day 5, they make up 30 minutes everywhere. this was 60 minutes previously, but with 30 minutes scheduled delay, that makes almost 8 hours day, hence ICC has reduced it to 30 minutes/8 overs - which ever is earlier.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

How did Misbah use Yasir Shah today? Negative leg stump stuff?

 

[uberkoen]

How did Misbah use Yasir Shah today? Negative leg stump stuff?

Yasir only bowled 10 overs.

In his second spell he bowled around the wicket and mostly on the offside. His first spell was rather poor and there were several rubbish deliveries that were hit for 4.

 

[Bilal7]

Over a hundred overs including the overs being played today.

I said we have to escape with all nine wickets today.

98 overs will be played on day 5, they make up 30 minutes everywhere. this was 60 minutes previously, but with 30 minutes scheduled delay, that makes almost 8 hours day, hence ICC has reduced it to 30 minutes/8 overs - which ever is earlier.

We do have a chance of batting out 98 overs provided we don't lose anymore tonight. Babar and Azhar will be hard to dislodge once they get to settle down in the morning session tomorrow.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Yasir only bowled 10 overs.

In his second spell he bowled around the wicket and mostly on the offside. His first spell was rather poor and there were several rubbish deliveries that were hit for 4.

Ok, disappointing. But at least not the legstump stuff.

 

[MMHS]

Why Bird is so under rated? I understand, he doesn't crank it at 145KM, but he is as good a seem bowler as there are around now. Easily could have taken new ball for AUS without this pair & he'll be the go to guy for PAK team with new ball.

 

[Bilal7]

Runs have slowed up. But I just hope we don't lose another wicket today.

Dots are way more valuable than runs now. Were not chasing down 500 here. We're playing for a draw.

 

[yasir]

Butt is the only Pakistani with the offside game to thrive in Australia.

The next two games are red ball games.

Put him wherever. Just make sure he's there.

Playing at night is whole different challenge. They have to see through night session, plan tomorrow what to do.

I don't disagree limited range of shots is a problem. Specially on off-side, but again if you are going for drive at night, it's lot more risky

 

[Junaids]

How did Misbah use Yasir Shah today? Negative leg stump stuff?

Yes.

Shane Warne was incensed.

 

[QalandarFan]

Dots are way more valuable than runs now. Were not chasing down 500 here. We're playing for a draw.

Too many dots are not good either.

 

[uberkoen]

Dots are way more valuable than runs now. Were not chasing down 500 here. We're playing for a draw.

Not going to happen bro.

 

[yasir]

20 overs still remaining today, they need to see through those, that is task number 1, tomorrow they can score and play long innings. That should be plan.

 

[MMHS]

Yes.

Shane Warne was incensed.

Apart from Butt, whom will you make Test Captain after Misbah - say in WI tour?

 

[lahoriyah1234]

Too many dots are not good either.

Under lights its not easy to bat. I am not a fan of day night games.

Only if we had batted well in the first inning we would have save the game.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

Apart from Butt, whom will you make Test Captain after Misbah - say in WI tour?

Azhar is the best man to lead in test cricket he has earned it, most reliable batsmen in thre team. Good player

 

[Junaids]

Apart from Butt, whom will you make Test Captain after Misbah - say in WI tour?

I don't want Butt as skipper, ever!

I'd go with Sarfraz.

 

[Belawal2014]

Alright boys, 4 30 AM and I'm off to bed. Hope these two can see the night off.

 

[MMHS]

I also am not liking D/N Tests - one reason is it starts at 10PM or later at Toronto; but the main reason is it makes the game one sided. We bash lot about Indian (Asian) wicket that toss determines the match, it's even more skewed in D/N Test.

 

[MMHS]

I don't want Butt as skipper, ever!

I'd go with Sarfraz.

Even considering his work load?

 

[Convict]

Martin does have 200 Test wickets , but there is another one with 250+ wickets as well.

Bedi?

 

[Big Mac]

Runs have slowed up. But I just hope we don't lose another wicket today.

Yep. Key is to not lose a wicket tonight, if these two can survive then they will have the chance to cash in and score some runs tomorrow when conditions are much easier.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

I also am not liking D/N Tests - one reason is it starts at 10PM or later at Toronto; but the main reason is it makes the game one sided. We bash lot about Indian (Asian) wicket that toss determines the match, it's even more skewed in D/N Test.

Trust me Pakistan will give this Australia team a phainti in the next. Smith who i found most annoying batsmen to watch will find out. Day night game aren't fair because of the toss determines if you win or lose.

 

[Bilal7]

Not going to happen bro.

Gotta try.

Too many dots are not good either.

Agreed. They should look for singles but maybe they feel that batting is especially difficult right now and they'll bat with more intent tomorrow or day after.

 

[Slog]

Yep. Key is to not lose a wicket tonight, if these two can survive then they will have the chance to cash in and score some runs tomorrow when conditions are much easier.

First session maybe a wash out

 

[MMHS]

Azhar is the best man to lead in test cricket he has earned it, most reliable batsmen in thre team. Good player

A bit too reliable sometimes but he is a Test specialist, no doubt. Regarding Captaincy, his Hamilton experience wasn't great though.

 

[Junaids]

Azhar is the best man to lead in test cricket he has earned it, most reliable batsmen in thre team. Good player

How has he earned it?

You don't earn the captaincy by batting well. You need to be a leader.

Butt is the only qualified guy, but I don't want him, I'd try Sarfraz in the hope that either Sami Aslam or Babar Azam is ready in two years.

IMHO both Salman Butt and Azhar Ali are too old by a good five years to be the new skipper.

So I'd use Sarfraz as a stopgap.

 

[Convict]

Why Bird is so under rated? I understand, he doesn't crank it at 145KM, but he is as good a seem bowler as there are around now. Easily could have taken new ball for AUS without this pair & he'll be the go to guy for PAK team with new ball.

People here on PP don't like having to rate Australian players.

There is a weird quandary between claiming that Smith and Warner only ever make easy runs without extending that logic to Starc and Hazlewood continually getting wickets on those same pitches.

Bird actually complements Starc and Hazlewood far more than Pattinson and Cummins would.

 

[MMHS]

Bedi?

Chandrashekhar - the original Jack. In fact, his ~170 career Test run came at a much faster rate than even Sobers - it was easier for him to hit a 4 or 6 than stay at wicket for 6 balls.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

Just a Question how would the Indian had fared out here against this Australia team.

 

[Junaids]

Trust me Pakistan will give this Australia team a phainti in the next. Smith who i found most annoying batsmen to watch will find out. Day night game aren't fair because of the toss determines if you win or lose.

Is this a joke?

The previous two Day/Night Tests in Australia were won by the side batting second.

Pakistan just disrespected the format by playing four Number Elevens, so they could not recover from the inevitable floodlit collapse.

 

[uberkoen]

We are way too defensive.

 

[Gilly]

Both openers have been driving balls which are short enough to leave.

Tough for Babar to arrive in rapidly changing light conditions.

No not really, Smith declared half an hour too late and Starc and Hazlewood are tired.