Australia vs England | 1st Ashes Test | Brisbane | Day 3

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The hunger is not there anymore. The determination to wait for the bad balls isn't there anymore. Not sure but maybe they have thought that it's okay to lose one after winning three. Subconsciously that is. After all playing 5 match series back to back take a toll on everyone - both- physically and mentally.

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It could very well be the case of performing poorly in the first match as England has made a ritual our of it. It has happened so many times especially in first two innings of the first match. And again I believe they got the playing XI wrong. Tremlett is a wrong selection.
 
England just messed up the whole Test match. it was brewing up nicely and they screwed it over.

Not much point watching the rest tbh unless you're an Aussie.
 
Never say never. If England can collapse, so can Australia.

Four quick wickets and it's game on.
 
Would be nice if they did manage to turn it around, and I think England and co will want to put up a fight just to get back at the aussies in general, especially with the childish antics of the crowd etc.

But in reality getting out for 136 or whatever it was has left them with nothing to fight with.
 
Never say never. If England can collapse, so can Australia.

Four quick wickets and it's game on.

Even if Aus collapses for in 150 odd runs, lead will be a huge one.

I think it's customary Eng first test performance. They will do better from now on. They looked bit shell-shocked by Johnson's aggressive spell.
 
Even if Aus collapses for in 150 odd runs, lead will be a huge one.

I think it's customary Eng first test performance. They will do better from now on. They looked bit shell-shocked by Johnson's aggressive spell.

You never know with England. Cook could get in and drop anchor.
 
^ lol.

England can probably still draw but it will need a lot of things to go in their favour, Australia will be half way to a win by having 2 good sessions today.
 
Lets see if our batsmen can actually put some runs on the board

Also looking forward to see if any crowd behaviour causes faux PP outrage
 
Tremlett looks like he put on Joe Root's top this morning.
 
Village cricket that, rank long hop plopped straight to point.
 
Game on here. Two more quick wickets and it'll be very interesting.

Gremlins can resurface.
 
Watson needs to back his instincts. He's never going to score like this
 
10fer for Broad would be deserved. In a game of mostly average England efforts he has been terrific.
 
Watson needs to back his instincts. He's never going to score like this
His instinct is to plonk his front foot down the pitch and get caught plumb lbw.

Needs to fight his instincts.
 
Tremlett really does like like he has an extra small shirt on lol - **waiting for Warnie to come into the comm box**
 
His instinct is to plonk his front foot down the pitch and get caught plumb lbw.

Needs to fight his instincts.

Instincts of playing shots. That's not instincts that's his technique. Poorly developed premeditated technique. He still plants his front foot just doesn't play around it like before.
 
Watson is not a Test-class batsman. Never will be.
 
Commentators need to realise that them calling it a flat pitch doesn't make it so, no matter how many times they repeat it.

There is certainly something in this pitch.
 
Reminds me of Headingley. A good side can score 400 but if you get everything right you will bowl that same side out for 80.
 
27 innings against England for a average of 44.6

what does that say about the England bowling attack.

That stats are skewed by one good innings of 176 and he has never actually played a match winning innings against England.
 
Watson has converted just 3 of his 23 half-centuries into tons. That is a truly dismal conversion rate and he is a bottler. Rarely gets a single figure score actually, but then is a genuine criminal with regards to the amount of starts that he throws away.

Batsmen like him don't have an impact on the results of Test matches.
 
That stats are skewed by one good innings of 176 and he has never actually played a match winning innings against England.

He has scored over 1100 runs against England so that sort of demolishes your feeble argument.
 
He has scored over 1100 runs against England so that sort of demolishes your feeble argument.

What was that match-winning innings that he has played then?

Against England? Or anyone?
 
He has scored over 1100 runs against England so that sort of demolishes your feeble argument.

How many centuries has he scored against England? Or how many match winning/saving crucial innings he played? 50/60s don't trouble teams in tests. He was one of the main reason why Australia couldn't score big runs in 2010 Ashes. He threw away his wicket every time after a good start. He would score a 50 and get out. when you're batsmen are in you want them to score hundred and big hundreds not pretty 50s.
 
What the hell was that.

We've seen that look on Watson's face before haven't we.
 
England have bowled extremely well today.

LOL @ Trott trolling. Watson not impressed. :wahab
 
Watson batted himself in a corner, block after block and tried to go into ODI mode against Tremlett. Not good enough for a test #3.
 
How many centuries has he scored against England? Or how many match winning/saving crucial innings he played? 50/60s don't trouble teams in tests. He was one of the main reason why Australia couldn't score big runs in 2010 Ashes. He threw away his wicket every time after a good start. He would score a 50 and get out. when you're batsmen are in you want them to score hundred and big hundreds not pretty 50s.

Not worth having a debate with a CA rep. Watson at 3 is one of the newer Test initiatives so he has to promote its features and benefits. Even after dismissals like that :umarakmal
 
Watson is like Akmals. Would play stupid shot and then cry while going back to the dressing room..
 
Thinking about it, that's one of the worst shots I've ever seen from a Test #3.
 
What was that match-winning innings that he has played then?

Against England? Or anyone?

He has still averaged 40+ against the English bowling and he is not a match winner, what does that say about the English bowling.

The more you run down Watson the worse your bowling looks, its you who is making Watson out to be a useless batsman but its your bowling attack that he has scored over 1100 runs against.
 
He has still averaged 40+ against the English bowling and he is not a match winner, what does that say about the English bowling.

The more you run down Watson the worse your bowling looks, its you who is making Watson out to be a useless batsman but its your bowling attack that he has scored over 1100 runs against.

So you've failed to answer the direct enquiries of myself and Anfield. As we all know, there are no match-winning innings to speak of.

Not your best morning at the office Mr PR, should have ordered an extra shot of espresso in your Starbucks :hafeez
 
How many centuries has he scored against England? Or how many match winning/saving crucial innings he played? 50/60s don't trouble teams in tests. He was one of the main reason why Australia couldn't score big runs in 2010 Ashes. He threw away his wicket every time after a good start. He would score a 50 and get out. when you're batsmen are in you want them to score hundred and big hundreds not pretty 50s.

So what does that say about the England bowling if a hack like Watson can average 40+ every time he plays them.
 
Australia will be glad of the runs they made yesterday, given the go-slow this morning.
 
Don't think they should have sent Clarke in at four. Send in Bailey.

For some reason Clarke's always bombed at four. Piles in the runs at five, but at four sucks. Dunno why. But he does. When he plays at four, you expect him to fail.

Terrible dismissal by Watson, but what's new. Really do think Aussies might be better off having Phil Hughes in there, grooming a young talent than Watson. Watson's not very good, over 30, chronic injury problems, and these days doesn't even bowl much. Might be better saving him for LOI where he's truly a gun player and Australia are heavily reliant on him there.
 
So you've failed to answer the direct enquiries of myself and Anfield. As we all know, there are no match-winning innings to speak of.

Not your best morning at the office Mr PR, should have ordered an extra shot of espresso in your Starbucks :hafeez

I think I have boxed you into a corner and you don't know what to do.

You said Watson is not a test class batsman.

I responded that he averages 40+ against England in 27 innings and asked what does that say about the England bowling.

You avoided answering that question. Is it to hard to answer.
 
Great shot by Clarke, responds well to that bouncer.
 
He isn't a Test #3 IMO. But we don't have a queue of batters sitting around in domestic to take his place.

Save for Doolan.

I don't think Doolan's going to be great but he'd improve the team.

Silk's the big talent but too early for him.
 
Cook has brought England's demise in this innings with his poor field placements and tactics.
 
Good effort from Davey thus far. Haven't watched it yet as I just got home from dinner but I hope they make sure they give themselves plenty of time to bowl the Poms out. We don't want a repeat of the last time where they scored 1/500 or whatever it was.
 
Cook has brought England's demise in this innings with his poor field placements and tactics.

What do you do with a deficit of 160? England's 1st batting innings collapse is what lost this match. Rain dance time :asif
 
What do you do with a deficit of 160? England's 1st batting innings collapse is what lost this match. Rain dance time :asif

You attack.

England had just gotten bowled out for 136. It was time to back your bowlers to do something similar.
 
If Aus can continue batting aggressively then in next 30-35 overs lead will get too big. It was weird to see Eng not even fielding the ball to get Clarke on strike. Clarke should play Broad in similar fashion in next test as well rather than getting into an awkward position while defending. Or simply leave it well.
 
Any way back for England?

Don't think they can win, but you never know. After the last Ashes Test here I've learned to wait till I see how the OZ are bowling in the 2nd innings before making any foolish predictions.

But if they were to win, it would take an outstanding batting effort and a poor bowling one from the OZ. The problem when MJ is your main wicket taking threat is that it's very difficult to make predictions as he is so inconsistent. He could very well bowl pies today. Draw is still possible if rain interferes.
 
What do you do with a deficit of 160? England's 1st batting innings collapse is what lost this match. Rain dance time :asif

more men near the bat. After watson's wicket he should have applied more pressure. England were not out of the game yet as we all know Aussies batting is very vulnerable and can fold like a pack of cards. He had all his men patrolling the boundary and gave warner easy singles to bowl at Clarke as he was some tailender.
 
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Don't think they can win, but you never know. After the last Ashes Test here I've learned to wait till I see how the OZ are bowling in the 2nd innings before making any foolish predictions.

But if they were to win, it would take an outstanding batting effort and a poor bowling one from the OZ. The problem when MJ is your main wicket taking threat is that it's very difficult to make predictions as he is so inconsistent. He could very well bowl pies today. Draw is still possible if rain interferes.

Harris is your best bowler not MJ.
 
more men near the bat. After watson's wicket he should have applied more pressure. England were not out of the game then yet as we all know Aussies batting is very vulnerable and can good like a pack of cards. He had all his men patrolling the boundary and have warned easy singles to bowl at Clarke as he was some tailender.

True. The general perception of Cook amongst informed England fans is that when he is not in good batting form and leading by example that way, then largely due to his own lack of tactical nous he is not contributing a great deal to the team. He implements mostly basic, mediocre and unimaginative field settings and lets Anderson, Broad and Swann amend the closer positions if they want, while Flower essentially selects the XI. Therefore in situations like this he can look rather impotent.
 
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