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Australia and Pakistan face off in the series-deciding third ODI at Perth on November 10. The series is evenly poised at 1-1, following Pakistan's convincing nine-wicket victory in Adelaide.

Pakistan's Haris Rauf and Saim Ayub stole the show in the second ODI, with Rauf claiming 5/29 and Ayub scoring 82 runs. Australia's batting lineup crumbled, and Pakistan's openers made light work of the target.

The hosts will be without their key players, including Starc, Smith, Marnus Labuschagne, Cummins, and Hazlewood, who are being rested ahead of the Test series against India. Josh Inglis will lead Australia in their absence.

Pakistan, buoyed by their Adelaide win, will look to capitalize on Australia's weakened lineup. Rauf's pace and Ayub's batting form will be crucial factors in the series decider.

The stage is set for an exciting finale at Perth.

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Rashid Latif was saying there is another venue in Perth (not the Gabba) and that’s where the fixture is. Is the match at Gabba or elsewhere?
 
Great opportunity for Pakistan to win a series in Australia.

Last time Pakistan won a series in Australia was back in 2002 (they won the ODI series 2-1).
 
Hoping for the best, Rizwan is excellent behind the stumps doing Zikr
 
Rana said:
Rashid Latif was saying there is another venue in Perth (not the Gabba) and that’s where the fixture is. Is the match at Gabba or elsewhere?
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Is new stadium where T20 wc was also held.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Need to play Aamer Jamal here and definitely Haris Rauf given his pace
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Go with the same XI now. Might as well. You can’t drop players who haven’t even played in the 2nd match.

Only realistic change is Naseem Shah ‘rested’ for Jamaal
 
@RedwoodOriginal @Kianig89 @khyberlion

Now that I'm finally free I will give my opinions respectfully.

First about Abdullah.

You lot keep forgetting how rubbish he is, cause you all keep forgetting his innings.

Ahmed shehzad was exactly the same, He'd fail 50+ innings but would hit a century here and their and you lot would do a bhrangra.

The truth is he is a crap opener with a few flashy spells. So I 100% stand by what I claimed. Prior to this innings, saim and Abdullah had proven themselves to be the worst opening pair(statistically) that Pakistan has ever had.

Now about Australia

Australia played rubbish today. Their is no denying it. Infact they were also very poor on the field which is something no one could have predicted.

Given pak's track history, no one could have predicted Australia would go down that easily.

And Finally about Rizwan

I stand by my judgement. He is a rubbish captain.

One match won't change anything. I have been following their career trajectories.

As amjid javed stated, one innings and suddenly saim is the 2nd coming of saeed Anwar, Abdullah is the goat overseas axeman opener, rizzu is the 2nd coming of waugh etc etc.

Rizwan is a medicore bat. Abdullah is a rubbish bat, Saim has showcased flashes of brilliance.

You can play judge jury executioner all you want, keep flaunting this 164 run chase for the rest of your life.

Rizzu captaincy drama will end in tears, so will with Abdullah shafique drama.
 
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mominsaigol said:
@RedwoodOriginal @Kianig89 @khyberlion

Now that I'm finally free I will give my opinions respectfully.

First about Abdullah.

You lot keep forgetting how rubbish he is, cause you all keep forgetting his grand innings.

Ahmed shehzad was exactly the same, He'd fail 50+ innings but would hit a century here and their and you lot would do a bhrangra.

The truth is he is a crap opener with a few flashy spells. So I 100% stand by what I claimed. Prior to this innings, saim and Abdullah had proven themselves to be the worst opening pair(statistically) that Pakistan has ever had.

Now about Australia

Australia played rubbish today. Their is no denying it. Infact they were also very poor on the field which is something no one could have predicted.

Given pak's track history, no one could have predicted Australia would go down that easily.

And Finally about Rizwan

I stand by my judgement. He is a rubbish captain.

One match won't change anything. I have been following their career trajectories.

As amjid javed stated, one innings and suddenly saim is the 2nd coming of saeed Anwar, Abdullah is the goat overseas axeman opener, rizzu is the 2nd coming of waugh etc etc.

Rizwan is a medicore bat. Abdullah is a rubbish bat, Saim has showcased flashes of brilliance.

You can play judge jury executioner all you want, keep flaunting this 164 run chase for the rest of your life.

Rizzu captaincy drama will end in tears, so will with Abdullah shafique drama.
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Quick turnaround this one. Pakistan won't get additional days to practice in Perth.
 
sweep_shot said:
Great opportunity for Pakistan to win a series in Australia.

Last time Pakistan won a series in Australia was back in 2002 (they won the ODI series 2-1).
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Do you mean the old WACA stadium, that’s been dismantled 3-4 years back and it doesn’t host cricket anymore. They made a new stadium in Perth..
 
Rana said:
Rashid Latif was saying there is another venue in Perth (not the Gabba) and that’s where the fixture is. Is the match at Gabba or elsewhere?
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Do you mean the old WACA stadium, that’s been dismantled 3-4 years back and it doesn’t host cricket anymore. They made a new stadium in Perth..
 
mominsaigol said:
@RedwoodOriginal @Kianig89 @khyberlion

Now that I'm finally free I will give my opinions respectfully.

First about Abdullah.

You lot keep forgetting how rubbish he is, cause you all keep forgetting his gand innings.

Ahmed shehzad was exactly the same, He'd fail 50+ innings but would hit a century here and their and you lot would do a bhrangra.

The truth is he is a crap opener with a few flashy spells. So I 100% stand by what I claimed. Prior to this innings, saim and Abdullah had proven themselves to be the worst opening pair(statistically) that Pakistan has ever had.

Now about Australia

Australia played rubbish today. Their is no denying it. Infact they were also very poor on the field which is something no one could have predicted.

Given pak's track history, no one could have predicted Australia would go down that easily.

And Finally about Rizwan

I stand by my judgement. He is a rubbish captain.

One match won't change anything. I have been following their career trajectories.

As amjid javed stated, one innings and suddenly saim is the 2nd coming of saeed Anwar, Abdullah is the goat overseas axeman opener, rizzu is the 2nd coming of waugh etc etc.

Rizwan is a medicore bat. Abdullah is a rubbish bat, Saim has showcased flashes of brilliance.

You can play judge jury executioner all you want, keep flaunting this 164 run chase for the rest of your life.

Rizzu captaincy drama will end in tears, so will with Abdullah shafique drama.
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Ahmed Shehzad did not score a single century with a SR of over 100 after returning to the ODI team in 2013.
And it's not like he couldn't play quickly. he willingly never would. Abdullah has atleast showed he is willing to take the game on at times. Shezzy never did in ODIs ever since his recall in 2013. The frustrating thing about Shafique is his inability to grab the game and habitual soft dismissals (very similar to Asad Shafiq)
 
shaaik said:
Do you mean the old WACA stadium, that’s been dismantled 3-4 years back and it doesn’t host cricket anymore. They made a new stadium in Perth..
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It hasn't been demolished. It's still used for Sheffield Shield cricket and other domestic matches like the Women's BBL. They just don't host any international games there anymore because it's a bit outdated.
 
I don’t understand why Irfan Khan is in the playing XI. I would choose Haseebullah as the keeper, and let Rizwan play purely as a batsman to strengthen the batting lineup. Hasnain should be dropped for Faisal Akram—you need a spinner.
 
It's at Perth, which often offers bounce on the pitch. However, it's a important game. Win the game & you win the series.

I can't the last time Pakistan won a series against Australia in Australia. It helps the Aussie side is weakened somewhat.
 
mominsaigol said:
@RedwoodOriginal @Kianig89 @khyberlion

Now that I'm finally free I will give my opinions respectfully.

First about Abdullah.

You lot keep forgetting how rubbish he is, cause you all keep forgetting his gand innings.

Ahmed shehzad was exactly the same, He'd fail 50+ innings but would hit a century here and their and you lot would do a bhrangra.

The truth is he is a crap opener with a few flashy spells. So I 100% stand by what I claimed. Prior to this innings, saim and Abdullah had proven themselves to be the worst opening pair(statistically) that Pakistan has ever had.

Now about Australia

Australia played rubbish today. Their is no denying it. Infact they were also very poor on the field which is something no one could have predicted.

Given pak's track history, no one could have predicted Australia would go down that easily.

And Finally about Rizwan

I stand by my judgement. He is a rubbish captain.

One match won't change anything. I have been following their career trajectories.

As amjid javed stated, one innings and suddenly saim is the 2nd coming of saeed Anwar, Abdullah is the goat overseas axeman opener, rizzu is the 2nd coming of waugh etc etc.

Rizwan is a medicore bat. Abdullah is a rubbish bat, Saim has showcased flashes of brilliance.

You can play judge jury executioner all you want, keep flaunting this 164 run chase for the rest of your life.

Rizzu captaincy drama will end in tears, so will with Abdullah shafique drama.
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Are you talking as if someone like Imran Khan is just waiting in the wings to take over from Rizwan as captain? The domestic talent is absolute garbage! There’s no better option than Rizwan as captain right now, and he should stay in that role until the 2027 World Cup.
 
Mercurial said:
Are you talking as if someone like Imran Khan is just waiting in the wings to take over from Rizwan as captain? The domestic talent is absolute garbage! There’s no better option than Rizwan as captain right now, and he should stay in that role until the 2027 World Cup.
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The domestic talent all outperformed rizzu in the Champions one day cup.

He was garbage and he's clearly lost form.

It's a blessing in disguise he didn't walk out to bat today
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Ahmed Shehzad did not score a single century with a SR of over 100 after returning to the ODI team in 2013.
And it's not like he couldn't play quickly. he willingly never would. Abdullah has atleast showed he is willing to take the game on at times. Shezzy never did in ODIs ever since his recall in 2013. The frustrating thing about Shafique is his inability to grab the game and habitual soft dismissals (very similar to Asad Shafiq)
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Mark my words. You as well @RedwoodOriginal

Abdullah will have a few flash in the pan innings, Followed by a multitude of failures.

He's a garbage player.

I can understand supporting rizzu, and Babar, fine have at it.

But you All have totally lost it when you're supporting crap like Abdullah.
 
The Abdullah one I don’t know why he is rated so highly by people even now, I don’t know when was the last time he played a clutch knock?

I fear he will keep Fakhar out.
 
shaz619 said:
The Abdullah one I don’t know why he is rated so highly by people even now, I don’t know when was the last time he played a clutch knock?

I fear he will keep Fakhar out.
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He has Misbah’s blessing unlike Fakhar, that’s why they love him. It really depends on Aqib, he is pro Fakhar in comparison to Abdullah.
 
shaz619 said:
The Abdullah one I don’t know why he is rated so highly by people even now, I don’t know when was the last time he played a clutch knock?

I fear he will keep Fakhar out.
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He was brought into the team by Babar despite having little to no experience.

Afterwards misbah gave his blessing and Misbah is The closest thing to Jesus for this lot.
 
mominsaigol said:
He was brought into the team by Babar despite having little to no experience.

Afterwards misbah gave his blessing and Misbah is The closest thing to Jesus for this lot.
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I’ve heard that Misbah is walking on water as we speak, he just hasn’t completed the walk yet though :yk
 
Rana said:
He has Misbah’s blessing unlike Fakhar, that’s why they love him. It really depends on Aqib, he is pro Fakhar in comparison to Abdullah.
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Bro Abdullah is the reincarnation of Asad Shafiq; man there really was a big apocalyptic event which wiped out a big chunk of Pakistan fans because this detail is alien to the current lot. iA Aqib realises sooner rather than later, I would hate to see Fakhar being shipped in cold, when Pak selfishly put him in another sink or swim scenario.
 
shaz619 said:
Bro Abdullah is the reincarnation of Asad Shafiq; man there really was a big apocalyptic event which wiped out a big chunk of Pakistan fans because this detail is alien to the current lot. iA Aqib realises sooner rather than later, I would hate to see Fakhar being shipped in cold, when Pak selfishly put him in another sink or swim scenario.
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Asad shafiq as a test player >>>>>> Abdullah shafique. It's better to say Abdullah is a poor man's version of asad in test and an outright failure on odi.
 
Naseem has been far from convincing.

I am really keen to see Faisal Akram in the XI.
 
mominsaigol said:
Mark my words. You as well @RedwoodOriginal

Abdullah will have a few flash in the pan innings, Followed by a multitude of failures.

He's a garbage player.

I can understand supporting rizzu, and Babar, fine have at it.

But you All have totally lost it when you're supporting crap like Abdullah.
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I did not watch the 2nd ODI, but what a performance by Pakistan. :salute

Mauling Australia this way even if it is a one off match in their own den is an amazing achievement. Pak bowling looking like world beaters again. Haris Rauf seems to have reinvented himself. The ouster from the team seems to have done wonders for him.

Remember, this is a full strength Aus squad. Only Travis Head was missing from it.
 
Champ_Pal said:
I did not watch the 2nd ODI, but what a performance by Pakistan. :salute

Mauling Australia this way even if it is a one off match in their own den is an amazing achievement. Pak bowling looking like world beaters again. Haris Rauf seems to have reinvented himself. The ouster from the team seems to have done wonders for him.

Remember, this is a full strength Aus squad. Only Travis Head was missing from it.
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It does on wickets with a tiny bit of juice. Our bowlers are rubbish on flat wickets
 
Bewal Express said:
It does on wickets with a tiny bit of juice. Our bowlers are rubbish on flat wickets
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It shows how poor Aus batting is on juicy wickets too. Great batting units play well irrespective of conditions.

It was good to see Saim Ayub score well too. (y)
 
Good series going to final game, as for Rizwan haters clearly there is no logic and sense in your shallow arguments.

It's like Day and light Rizwan seems a sensible captain unlike many of his predecessors ,the strings go back to Moyo et al.
 
Champ_Pal said:
It shows how poor Aus batting is on juicy wickets too. Great batting units play well irrespective of conditions.

It was good to see Saim Ayub score well too. (y)
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Aus batting looks flaky and has done so for a while. Bumrah should have some real fun, but can the flaky Ind batting handle the full strength Aus attack like 4 years ago
 
You may not be laughing but everyone else is.

For the record, I don't even think Abdullah is some kind of a great player. If it was between him, Fakhar and Saim, I would pick Fakhar and Saim every day of the week. I do think though that he is a young player with some level of talent, who has shown enough to be given consistent opportunities to continue proving himself for Pakistan. The reason I am laughing at you is because you made the comment that Abdullah would fail completely in Australia, which has you have been proven wrong on in just the second match. And now, instead of admitting you were wrong, you are repositioning the argument by talking about what a "crap player" he is.

Time will tell whether he is good enough or not. But writing off young players is such a dumb thing to do, because it takes time, effort and hard work to find your feet in international cricket. Nobody becomes a success overnight in this sport, or any other sport for that matter. So when someone actually does well they should be appreciated, instead of being buried.
 
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Kianig89 said:
Good series going to final game, as for Rizwan haters clearly there is no logic and sense in your shallow arguments.

It's like Day and light Rizwan seems a sensible captain unlike many of his predecessors ,the strings go back to Moyo et al.
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I am hoping he becomes a good captain but as I have only seen snippets, I have no idea if he has the man management and tactical nous to become a good captain. What is certain is that Riz is best WK batsman by absolute mile
 
mominsaigol said:
Mark my words. You as well @RedwoodOriginal

Abdullah will have a few flash in the pan innings, Followed by a multitude of failures.

He's a garbage player.

I can understand supporting rizzu, and Babar, fine have at it.

But you All have totally lost it when you're supporting crap like Abdullah.
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Garbage player ? Any reason why you think so ?
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
You may not be laughing but everyone else is.

For the record, I don't even think Abdullah is some kind of a great player. If it was between him, Fakhar and Saim, I would pick Fakhar and Saim every day of the week. I do think though that he is a young player with some level of talent, who has shown enough to be given consistent opportunities to continue proving himself for Pakistan. The reason I am laughing at you is because you made the comment that Abdullah would fail completely in Australia, which has you have been proven wrong on in just the second match. And now, instead of admitting you were wrong, you are repositioning the argument by talking about what a "crap player" he is.

Time will tell whether he is good enough or not. But writing off young players is such a dumb thing to do, because it takes time, effort and hard work to find your feet in international cricket. Nobody becomes a success overnight in this sport, or any other sport for that matter. So when someone actually does well they should be appreciated, instead of being buried.

Btw, why do you care so much about a young Pakistani batter anyway? I thought you were an Australian fan?
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Mate, I already had this conversation, I already replied.

It is very unfortunate that it was deleted. So I am not gonna bother. Not in the mood for a case of deja vu
 
Bewal Express said:
I am hoping he becomes a good captain but as I have only seen snippets, I have no idea if he has the man management and tactical nous to become a good captain. What is certain is that Riz is best WK batsman by absolute mile
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Even with 4 specialist bowlers he was ahead of the game all the time, good bowling changes and field placings were also not bad. Never looked defensive always searching for wickets
 
shaz619 said:
The Abdullah one I don’t know why he is rated so highly by people even now, I don’t know when was the last time he played a clutch knock?

I fear he will keep Fakhar out.
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I believe it was that 2023 WC Sri Lanka-Pakistan game.

Abdullah scored a nice century.
 
Greenstorm said:
Garbage player ? Any reason why you think so ?
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He played only 7 List A games and 15 FC games before making his debut.

He's one of the few players to get out on 4 ducks in row in his t20 international career.

Furthermore he's failed almost every single game in international and domestic.

He's managed to ride his career on bashing sri lanka in tests and odi but beyond that he's consistently proven that he's a mental midget.

He'll chase down low scoring totals for you, however if the target is 270 to 320, then forget about it.

He'll be back in the dugout before you know it.

To top it off he's a parchi selection. It's utter madness to select someone who's consistently failed List A tournament and barely has any experience and ask him to be your priemere opener for an International Side.

1) 4 ducks in a row in t20.

2) He and saim are responsible for being one of the worst test opening pair in the last decade.

3) Has failed every single game in test, odi and t20 with the exception of today's low scoring horror show from Australia and Sri lankan exploits in tests and odi.

Atrocious player and anyone who supports him, has no clue about cricket.

It's no surprise that the people who support him are also the same frauds who have a chacha fetish and treat chacha as their own transgender wives.
 
Optus wicket had alot of bounce even the trundlers were going chin height, hopefully Pakistan will be ready for challenge
 
mominsaigol said:
He played only 7 List A games and 15 FC games before making his debut.

He's one of the few players to get out on 4 ducks in row in his t20 international career.

Furthermore he's failed almost every single game in international and domestic.

He's managed to ride his career on bashing sri lanka in tests and odi but beyond that he's consistently proven that he's a mental midget.

He'll chase down low scoring totals for you, however if the target is 270 to 320, then forget about it.

He'll be back in the dugout before you know it.

To top it off he's a parchi selection. It's utter madness to select someone who's consistently failed List A tournament and barely has any experience and ask him to be your priemere opener for an International Side.

1) 4 ducks in a row in t20.

2) He and saim are responsible for being one of the worst test opening pair in the last decade.

3) Has failed every single game in test, odi and t20 with the exception of today's low scoring horror show from Australia and Sri lankan exploits in tests and odi.

Atrocious player and anyone who supports him, has no clue about cricket.

It's no surprise that the people who support him are also the same frauds who have a chacha fetish and treat chacha as their own transgender wives.
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And you know why he played so little FC. Please add context to this.
 
shaz619 said:
The Abdullah one I don’t know why he is rated so highly by people even now, I don’t know when was the last time he played a clutch knock?

I fear he will keep Fakhar out.
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The Abdullah one I don’t know why he is rated so highly by people even now, I don’t know when was the last time he played a clutch knock?

Hes one of the most useless players to ever represent Pakistan. Rizwan, Abdullah, chacha etc etc. These guys are the absolute lowest of the low


 
mominsaigol said:
The Abdullah one I don’t know why he is rated so highly by people even now, I don’t know when was the last time he played a clutch knock?

Hes one of the most useless players to ever represent Pakistan. Rizwan, Abdullah, chacha etc etc. These guys are the absolute lowest of the low
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So Riz, who is one of the best Wk we have ever produced is garbage. Which planet are you on.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
When Fakhar comes back he must open.

Abdullah can drop down to 3 or 4.
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Babar will bat at 3 till 2035 and Abdullah is useless at 4. Abdullah's only utility is to make use of power play overs like he does in PSL but for some reason in ODIs, he becomes too timid. He is decent against spin though.

Two left handed openers like Fakhar and Saim can be trapped if opposition have a decent right arm off spinner. I have seen both of them struggling against Mehidy, Mujeeb, Lyon, Moeen etc.

Now Fakhar at 5 is better because,

1. We lack dynamic middle order batter. Kamran, Salman types are not cut for modern day number 5 and 6.
2. Fakhar has usually done well when he came late albeit in T20Is. I remember a game in England and Semi final of T20 WC where he thrashed Starc. Can be our Maxwell.

And Fakhar can always return to open if it doesn't work out because he will forever be better than Abdullah, Saim, Sahibzada etc.
 
Saim & Shafiq has age on their side , so they should continue the opening. Don't believe in random names being thrown from domestics it's all gimmicks

No player is perfect even the most hyped PP DARLING Kamran Ghulam has glaring weakness against pace.
 
For me Abdullah looks too intense at the crease. He needs to relax and just play. But looking at the other guys available to PK, he is definitely a player that needs to be in the mix.
 
Bewal Express said:
For me Abdullah looks too intense at the crease. He needs to relax and just play. But looking at the other guys available to PK, he is definitely a player that needs to be in the mix.
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When he is relaxed he is a proper proper player, has all the time in the world.

Hopefully some stability and support from the management can help him settle and play with freedom rather than play in a frightened way.
 
Bewal Express said:
For me Abdullah looks too intense at the crease. He needs to relax and just play. But looking at the other guys available to PK, he is definitely a player that needs to be in the mix.
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Bro abdullah has all the talent in the world for some strange reason he gets bogged down which has doesn't need to do just play his natural style of play.
 
mominsaigol said:
Mark my words. You as well @RedwoodOriginal

Abdullah will have a few flash in the pan innings, Followed by a multitude of failures.

He's a garbage player.

I can understand supporting rizzu, and Babar, fine have at it.

But you All have totally lost it when you're supporting crap like Abdullah.
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I am not supporting Abdullah lol. Far from it. I am actually very critical of him and his habit of soft dismissals or getting out just when gets set in. I am not saying he's going to be some atg opener for Pak either. Just saying that for his 15 odis, he has already shown more calibre than Shezzy ever did since his recall in 2013. If Abdullah doesn't improve, he should be dropped as well.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I don't believe they have the same clout anymore and will do as they are told.
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Rizwan should bat at no.5 IMO. Kamran or Saud should take the no.4 spot. Rizwan does better when he's out of his comfort zone.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
I am not supporting Abdullah lol. Far from it. I am actually very critical of him and his habit of soft dismissals or getting out just when gets set in. I am not saying he's going to be some atg opener for Pak either. Just saying that for his 15 odis, he has already shown more calibre than Shezzy ever did since his recall in 2013. If Abdullah doesn't improve, he should be dropped as well.
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Just saying that for his 15 odis, he has already shown more calibre than Shezzy ever did since his recall in 2013

Sorry bro, I apologise if i didnt reply or answer directly. Its just recently theirs been a groupism esc war on PP where certain posters just troll on end and pat each other on the back rather then discussing properly.

But anyway in your case,

When it comes to shehzad, from 2013 to 2015 he was medicore. Shehzad was a gone case in 2015 so I won't even bother talking about him.

However if you look at Shehzad's entire career trajectory, his left foot was far more talented then Abdullah.

He was the first pakistani player to ever score a century in every single format of the game. He was also Pakistan's highest run getter in 2014, and despite his slow sr, he played a clutch innings alongside fawad alam to ensure a victory against Bangladesh chasing 338 in 2014 asia cup.

By no means am I claiming shehzad is a good player, however shehzad was a naturally talented batter but was a lazy cricketer and never improved strike rotation.

He has played knocks that Abdullah can't even dream off.

Abdullah has spent his career bashing Sri lanka(the only team he's good against and chasing low scores. Any other team presents him with a score of 250 to 300, he fails more often then not. Infact he's a certified mental midget.

4 ducks in a row in t20, failed every single test innings excluding sri lanka test series. Has failed every single odi game except sri lanka and low total chases.

He is not a good batter.

As for SR, Shehzad pre 2013 not only plays faster then Abdullah but if you are counting 2013-2015 Shehzad, then he played in an entirely different to Abdullah.

The team culture and dynamic at the time under Misbah were to play classic 1990's cricket where you block for 40 overs and bring in your sloggers UA + Afridi at the back end.

Abdullah plays in an era where it's virtually impossible to adopt such a mantra as t20 leagues and franchise cricket + the rise of England's bazzball nature in test and their aggressive style of play post 2015 onwards changed the entire genre of how modern era cricket is played.

Not a fair comparison between these 2.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Rizwan should bat at no.5 IMO. Kamran or Saud should take the no.4 spot. Rizwan does better when he's out of his comfort zone.
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Rizwan doesn't have the power game that is often required for a player batting at 5. They tried him in that slot and it didn't work. 4 is the perfect number for him because he can keep the scoreboard ticking during the middle-overs and get enough balls to play a substantial knock. Saud has shown a willingness to evolve his game by adding more shots to his repertoire in the PSL, and he is a busy player too who likes to keep rotating the strike which is why he should be playing at 5.
 
Shafique has the same issues since day 1. He is too obsessed with looking pretty on camera and having a picture perfect technique. He holds his pose almost every time he hits a good shot.

If he works on his mental game he can be a player, but that is a big ask but that is something he needs to work on. He is quite similar to his namesake, the other Shafiq, who had a lot more agility than Azhar but never developed his mentality. Shafique will end up with a similar career if he doesn’t improve his mindset.
 
Mamoon said:
Shafique has the same issues since day 1. He is too obsessed with looking pretty on camera and having a picture perfect technique. He holds his pose almost every time he hits a good shot.

If he works on his mental game he can be a player, but that is a big ask but that is something he needs to work on. He is quite similar to his namesake, the other Shafiq, who had a lot more agility than Azhar but never developed his mentality. Shafique will end up with a similar career if he doesn’t improve his mindset.
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I agree but in odis he already done better than asad shafique who's quite comfortably the odi batsmen Pakistan produced. An average of 20 odd after 60 odd games is shambolic.

Abdullah needs to start playing freely and stop being neverous. Once he does that he will be a fine odi batsmen, but the problem as you pointed out is his mental side and there hasn't been an improvement. Let's hope for Pakistan sake he gets starts backing himself.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Rizwan doesn't have the power game that is often required for a player batting at 5. They tried him in that slot and it didn't work. 4 is the perfect number for him because he can keep the scoreboard ticking during the middle-overs and get enough balls to play a substantial knock. Saud has shown a willingness to evolve his game by adding more shots to his repertoire in the PSL, and he is a busy player too who likes to keep rotating the strike which is why he should be playing at 5.
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Rizwan showed a lot more urgency when he was made to bat at no.5 in 2022 or 2023 i don't remember properly. That's one way of not letting our players get complacence which is why i believe Rizwan NEEDS to bat at 5 so he can show more determination whilst he's on crease and add some power game to his arsenal. Otherwise he won't improve.
Regarding Saud, he is a better player of spin than he is for pace and I like his work ethic that he's always looking to improve and energize his game something our players lack. No. 5 will have to add finishing skills as well something Inzi was a master at. Saud lacks the muscle to manufacture boundaries in the last 15 overs (hasn't showed his ability yet but I am hopeful he will). I believe no. 4 is a more specialized position that needs pure batters with minimal deficiencies. Saud has a higher ceiling IMO and should be given a chance at 4.
 
Mamoon said:
Shafique has the same issues since day 1. He is too obsessed with looking pretty on camera and having a picture perfect technique. He holds his pose almost every time he hits a good shot.

If he works on his mental game he can be a player, but that is a big ask but that is something he needs to work on. He is quite similar to his namesake, the other Shafiq, who had a lot more agility than Azhar but never developed his mentality. Shafique will end up with a similar career if he doesn’t improve his mindset.
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Which is why the likes of Graeme Smith and Justin Langer were preferred over all others. They would get the job done by hook or crook rather than looking pretty at the crease.
 
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