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Bangladesh [330/6] beat South Africa [309/8] by 21 runs in the group stage of the 2019 World Cup

Ram Shekhar said:
Still early days. The top 9 teams can beat each other on their day. It's better to wait for the first 5 rounds to finish before coming to solid conclusions. As of now, only Australia and England look certainties for semifinals. But 2 bad matches and even that can change. This is a very good world cup format.
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Yeah but unless Bangladesh does something miraculous and upsets 2-3 and gets to the semis, pakistan will get help from this performance of BD.
 
MMHS said:
Still, 10 wickets in 21 overs (actually first 9 in 17) was too shallow. They never played to apply & fight it out. Babar I think was dropped once and then got out to a loose poke.
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Was a very poor performance by PAK no doubt.
 
Deewana said:
lol he is a harmless trundler
i know bangladeshi fans are deluded but come on calling mashrafe good is hilarious
btw i want bangaldesh to win
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No sir, Masrafe is a wily old genius. He knows how to buy wickets and even some of the faster bowlers lack that ability. He makes up his lack of pace with his brain. That's why you would never have seen him being taken apart.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Yeah but unless Bangladesh does something miraculous and upsets 2-3 and gets to the semis, pakistan will get help from this performance of BD.
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I would not really term Bangladesh wins as upsets. They've evolved and started to win matches on a consistent basis. On flat tracks, they're as good as anyone. See for yourself how they're taking apart the so called best bowling attack of the tournament..
 
Sin Nombre said:
Klay and Iguodala won't have a second poor game in a row. Steph and Green are monsters if Klay is feeling good and can not be ignored.
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They'll miss Durant bro. This Raptor forward has Siakam & Mark to cover for KL's double teaming and Raptor's defense won't allow back court domination. I am certain it's going to be 2-0, but yes even without Durant, GSW has the best starting roster in NBA, probably with Phi 76ers (Not with KD).
 
Ram Shekhar said:
I would not really term Bangladesh wins as upsets. They've evolved and started to win matches on a consistent basis. On flat tracks, they're as good as anyone. See for yourself how they're taking apart the so called best bowling attack of the tournament..
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Agree with you 💯. Their transition of developing as a team and improving their domestic structure to develop good players has been amazing. 👍
 
If S Africa loose today they will be in danger to go to semi. They will loose to NZ, IND and Australia.
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
Agree with you ��. Their transition of developing as a team and improving their domestic structure to develop good players has been amazing. ��
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Correct. Bangladesh have made improvements at grassroots level and results are there for everyone to see.
 
This is a very good wicket, best of the WC so far. SA would also love to bat here.
 
Ram Shekhar said:
I would not really term Bangladesh wins as upsets. They've evolved and started to win matches on a consistent basis. On flat tracks, they're as good as anyone. See for yourself how they're taking apart the so called best bowling attack of the tournament..
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If pak beat eng tomorrow it will still be considered an upset. If bd win today it will be considered an upset. It’s not an insult to call something an upset.
 
wow...did'nt see this coming- BD going good against SAF....no nigidi....pitch is good with even bounce, they have to target 330....even though he's done well,....still fell Shakib ul h is batting one or two places too high....imagine if BD thump SAF....the pressure on SAF vs ind will be enormous...BD win will sendthe thundflash up all others.....:)
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Yeah but unless Bangladesh does something miraculous and upsets 2-3 and gets to the semis, pakistan will get help from this performance of BD.
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PAK needs to help themselves first. It'll hurt but the truth is tough to fight with a bunch of average players, tougher with a bunch of average selfish players and toughest if that bunch is led by a specialist Captain who is probably worst in this WC in terms of appearance and tactics.

Better expect that this WC should restore some sense in deluded minds (not only in PCB), and they start to plan for next WC with 4 years at hand. Being exposed is one thing but treated like minnows in a WC in India (They should qualify easily) won't look good at all and that'll kill the interest of the game in PAK more than the isolation.
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
wow...did'nt see this coming- BD going good against SAF....no nigidi....pitch is good with even bounce, they have to target 330....even though he's done well,....still fell Shakib ul h is batting one or two places too high....imagine if BD thump SAF....the pressure on SAF vs ind will be enormous...BD win will sendthe thundflash up all others.....:)
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Ngidi is just bad. He got smacked today.
 
Mashrafe cannot be underestimated no matter what is his pace, the guy is still statistically one of our top pacers and he can hold his own with his accuracy
 
Really should get 300+ here. Anything less from this position would be very disappointing.
 
MMHS said:
PAK needs to help themselves first. It'll hurt but the truth is tough to fight with a bunch of average players, tougher with a bunch of average selfish players and toughest if that bunch is led by a specialist Captain who is probably worst in this WC in terms of appearance and tactics.

Better expect that this WC should restore some sense in deluded minds (not only in PCB), and they start to plan for next WC with 4 years at hand. Being exposed is one thing but treated like minnows in a WC in India (They should qualify easily) won't look good at all and that'll kill the interest of the game in PAK more than the isolation.
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Why are you talking about Sarfaraz’s appearance?
 
Ram Shekhar said:
Correct. Bangladesh have made improvements at grassroots level and results are there for everyone to see.
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Really hoping and Praying PM Imran Khan will something for our cricket and its structure in the country. We are going downhill day by day, he is our only hope to save this sinking ship. Corruption has destroyed Pak Cricket in last 15 yrs.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
If pak beat eng tomorrow it will still be considered an upset. If bd win today it will be considered an upset. It’s not an insult to call something an upset.
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I don't think so. England were humbled when Pakistan blasted them in champions trophy semifinal and they will never underestimate the Pakistan side. They will still be wary of Pakistan side given Pakistan ran them close in the recent ODI series.

Bangladesh have beaten South Africa multiple times, including 2007 world cup super 8 match.
 
Why is it that guys like Mushfiq, Shakib who average mid 30s but somehow we see them play a solid innings on a regular basis. But our supernaturals usually never get beyond 10.
 
BCB makes more money from selling shirts than PCB makes from selling ticket in UAE :(
 
MMHS said:
PAK needs to help themselves first. It'll hurt but the truth is tough to fight with a bunch of average players, tougher with a bunch of average selfish players and toughest if that bunch is led by a specialist Captain who is probably worst in this WC in terms of appearance and tactics.

Better expect that this WC should restore some sense in deluded minds (not only in PCB), and they start to plan for next WC with 4 years at hand. Being exposed is one thing but treated like minnows in a WC in India (They should qualify easily) won't look good at all and that'll kill the interest of the game in PAK more than the isolation.
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Yes babar, haris fakhar, shaheen, imam are average. I know we do have some, but we do have some qulaity one's too.
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
Really hoping and Praying PM Imran Khan will something for our cricket and its structure in the country. We are going downhill day by day, he is our only hope to save this sinking ship. Corruption has destroyed Pak Cricket in last 15 yrs.
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I hope so too. Pakistan has some gems in the domestic like Fakhar Zaman who stormed everyone in champions trophy. It's important for Pakistan to identify talent like that and nurture them.
 
MMHS said:
PAK needs to help themselves first. It'll hurt but the truth is tough to fight with a bunch of average players, tougher with a bunch of average selfish players and toughest if that bunch is led by a specialist Captain who is probably worst in this WC in terms of appearance and tactics.

Better expect that this WC should restore some sense in deluded minds (not only in PCB), and they start to plan for next WC with 4 years at hand. Being exposed is one thing but treated like minnows in a WC in India (They should qualify easily) won't look good at all and that'll kill the interest of the game in PAK more than the isolation.
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Average players huh? Fakhar Zamman is a champ; so is Babar Azam! Both can win Pakistan matches. Hassan Ali hasn't hit form yet but him along with shadab/Amir can all win games in their day. Pakistan has plenty of match winners and that's why I wouldn't be so quick to write them off!

Anyway, Bangladesh is playing really well and anything below 335 would be dissappinting from this stage. 350 is possible too!
 
Energy said:
Why is it that guys like Mushfiq, Shakib who average mid 30s but somehow we see them play a solid innings on a regular basis. But our supernaturals usually never get beyond 10.
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They are better players than their average - started career at school age for an emerging team, hence initial career stats had taken a hit. PAK players stats are super inflated by minnow bashing and from bilaterals, that too often in dead rubbers, when opponents have rested some of their bowlers. Do an analysis of PAK batsmen against top 4 bowlers of every country above SRL, you'll see the real picture.
 
Khan12 said:
Yes babar, haris fakhar, shaheen, imam are average. I know we do have some, but we do have some qulaity one's too.
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Relax my friend. Babar is far from average, he is a superb batsmen in the making, he needs a batsmen like him in the playing 11 to help him easy some burden. 🤦*♂️
 
zulfiqar said:
Average players huh? Fakhar Zamman is a champ; so is Babar Azam! Both can win Pakistan matches. Hassan Ali hasn't hit form yet but him along with shadab/Amir can all win games in their day. Pakistan has plenty of match winners and that's why I wouldn't be so quick to write them off!

Anyway, Bangladesh is playing really well and anything below 335 would be dissappinting from this stage. 350 is possible too!
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No problem then - all is well. Good luck for the tournament.
 
We should get 370-380 from this stage.

Green tigers are in the house. :wahab
 
Mushfiq is criminally underrated, he has been a world class batsman for 4-5 years now.

Scores consistently in all conditions against all teams and is comfortable against all types of bowling. His footwork, strike rotation, temperament and short selection are fantastic.

Unfortunately, he doesn’t get his due because he plays for Bangladesh, had a poor start to his career and has made bad press because of some antics.

Objectively speaking, at the moment, he walks into every ODI team as a number 4 except England.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Why are you talking about Sarfaraz’s appearance?
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Not appearance, that little maturity I have (unlike some idiots here who think it's smart to talk about Mushfique's height -scored one on BD). It's the body language - I won't be motivated to play even a warm up game under such Captain.
 
jewel1985 said:
[MENTION=36958]Energy[/MENTION] - They are much more experienced at this level.
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And they are using their experience as a positive. Leading from the front. It is inexplicable how we are the opposite i.e. juniors to lead and seniors to provide the support role.

Definitely has to be a cultural block as the seniority complex is very wide in other fronts too. And it provides a cushion for mediocrity to thrive as there is no role model. Dare I say if Inzi takes the reigns as coach, this lazy culture will only flourish and we will be playing qualifiers for the next edition.
 
Mamoon said:
Mushfiq is criminally underrated, he has been a world class batsman for 4-5 years now.

Scores consistently in all conditions against all teams and is comfortable against all types of bowling. His footwork, strike rotation, temperament and short selection are fantastic.

Unfortunately, he doesn’t get his due because he plays for Bangladesh, had a poor start to his career and has made bad press because of some antics.

Objectively speaking, at the moment, he walks into every ODI team as a number 4 except England.
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Very true...has all the shots, under rated for sure...a competetive guy...has all the shots, tends to stay leg side and target the off...its the antics that probably dont endear...but he's got runs everywhere...
 
MMHS said:
Not appearance, that little maturity I have (unlike some idiots here who think it's smart to talk about Mushfique's height -scored one on BD). It's the body language - I won't be motivated to play even a warm up game under such Captain.
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What maturity? You said his face looks like a drunk loser with a hang over.
 
Khan12 said:
Yes babar, haris fakhar, shaheen, imam are average. I know we do have some, but we do have some qulaity one's too.
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You have two quality players - Babar & Amir. A good potential in Shaheen as well, while Haris's quality is normalized by his fitness. And, you have only one player that really plays for team - Fakhar. This was still good enough to avoid 4-21; but rest are pulling these players down.

For rest, everyone has own opinion and I am OK with that.
 
Bangladesh has a deep batting line up with Miraz and Saifuddin at 8 and 9, they should go aggressive mode soon
 
Always impressed by Rahim, a very tidy batsman and a great middle order for any team.
 
BD should play attacking game untill 40 over bcz 1 less player outside circle means they easily get 4&6
 
MMHS said:
You have two quality players - Babar & Amir. A good potential in Shaheen as well, while Haris's quality is normalized by his fitness. And, you have only one player that really plays for team - Fakhar. This was still good enough to avoid 4-21; but rest are pulling these players down.

For rest, everyone has own opinion and I am OK with that.
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For once I agree with you. Other than Babar, Amir, Fakhar and Shaheen everyone else is a bit garbage. I wouldn't include Hassan in that but he's fast going down the drain too. I said it before the WC too get our top 3 out and that's our line up done.

Hence why I have us losing every single game this tournament.
 
SubhanAllah. Excellent batting rebuilding. Good position Bangladesh in. InshAllah they’ll post a big total.


These two need to bat as deep as possible!
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
I think they should take the PP and go for it....target 330...pitch is a beauty, even bounce...out field is good...go BD :)
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I dont think anyone can guess what should be the ideal score in this pitch. Anything under 350 is chasable. This duo should be in there till 40th over.
 
If mo mithun has replaced Liton who was awesome against us in the asia cup...whats the dope on him...is he a power hitter....
 
Pakpak said:
For once I agree with you. Other than Babar, Amir, Fakhar and Shaheen everyone else is a bit garbage. I wouldn't include Hassan in that but he's fast going down the drain too. I said it before the WC too get our top 3 out and that's our line up done.

Hence why I have us losing every single game this tournament.
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You'll agree lot more with me if you start to use your head first and try to understand what's written rather than who has written - then jumping on to key board. Something isn't happening there and that was true even before BD was 207-2 in 33 overs vs SAF.
 
should get 150 from last 16 and it will take BD to 365, will be very good score here.
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
If mo mithun has replaced Liton who was awesome against us in the asia cup...whats the dope on him...is he a power hitter....
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It's batting position - if Shakib is to bat at 3, then Mithun actually makes better sense than Liton at 5. Power hitter is a flawed concept - it's about shot productivity & Mithun is quite good at that, have done it many times in league cricket, sort of specialist No. 5.
 
MMHS said:
You'll agree lot more with me if you start to use your head first and try to understand what's written rather than who has written - then jumping on to key board. Something isn't happening there and that was true even before BD was 207-2 in 33 overs vs SAF.
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My problem isn't with your views, its your dangerously adolescent language sometimes. Otherwise everyone has a view and are allowed to agree/disagree.
 
Pakpak said:
My problem isn't with your views, its your dangerously adolescent language sometimes. Otherwise everyone has a view and are allowed to agree/disagree.
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Have you read some of the BD threads here? They say, if you are to live in Lanka, you have to be Ravan .... I don't want to spoil it, but some times try some of the threads with a search option of "Bangladesh". ...... and what is left there is after long, long over time by Mods.
 
MMHS said:
It's batting position - if Shakib is to bat at 3, then Mithun actually makes better sense than Liton at 5. Power hitter is a flawed concept - it's about shot productivity & Mithun is quite good at that, have done it many times in league cricket, sort of specialist No. 5.
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Thanks Bhai...good explanation....is it just me or feel Rabada and SAF on the whole are lacking in intensity....if they bowl like this....bangla is going to get 340+....and then will be the bangla spin twins ....
 
Saffers playing like Pakistan has been playing these days.
No plan B,just going through the motions.

Well done to Bangladeshi batsmen.They are doing well.
 
Energy said:
Why is it that guys like Mushfiq, Shakib who average mid 30s but somehow we see them play a solid innings on a regular basis. But our supernaturals usually never get beyond 10.
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Average of both of them is 36. However, they started playing in their early 20s and hence the average looks this bad. If you take their performances over the last several years, it should be above 45. Tamim's average in last 2 years is 57.
 
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