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We need to know the true fate of JimmySaulGene in Nebraska.
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Isn’t he still inside for beating up Mike?
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Yeh, but if we are 2008 than he should be coming out with krazy 8 meeting him.
If we still in 2005 than we might not see him.
But i am guessing we are at 2008 nw due to that handicap label. Next weeks episode will feature Mr. White and jesse
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<b>Bob Odenkirk explains which episode he actually had heart attack on while filming Better Call Saul</b>
<I>"If you're looking to compare a human being pre- and post-heart attack, you'll want to look at the scene with Kim and Jimmy, when Lalo was talking to them," says the actor.</I>
It is widely known that Bob Odenkirk suffered a serious heart attack while filming an episode for the final season of Better Call Saul.
It is also known that he made a spectacular recovery and was back filming five weeks later to finish the final episodes of AMC's Breaking Bad prequel that he anchors.
And just last week, the Emmy-nominated actor revealed that it was the ninth episode of the season, <b>"Fun and Games,"</b> in which the heart attack occurred — which has just aired.
But, as it turns out, that's not quite correct — and Odenkirk wants to set the record straight. The tragedy with a happy ending actually occurred during the filming of episode 8, "Point and Shoot," as the actor was working on the key scene in Jimmy's apartment when Lalo (Tony Dalton) lays out his chilling plans for Jimmy and Kim (Rhea Seehorn).
When Odenkirk returned to action, instead of finishing off that scene from "Point and Shoot," he began work on scenes from "Fun and Games," which led to his mix-up. (It's also understandable, as he notes that he has no memory of that time period around the heart attack. In addition, the show does film some scenes out of sequence.)
"Episode 9 is all stuff we shot after my heart attack, and in fact it is the first stuff I shot," he tells EW. "The pick-up scenes [from episode 8] were not the first things we shot. So in my brain, I was like, 'Wait a second, the first things I shot when I came back from the heart attack was [episode] 9.' And that's true. Where I screwed up was like:
'Of course, we didn't come back and immediately just shoot what we were shooting that day — we carried on shooting.' We had a different director. We had Michael Morris directing. We started in on that stuff. And then at some point in shooting that stuff, we stopped, Vince [Gilligan, Saul co-creator who directed "Point and Shoot"] came back and we picked up the final moments of the scene with me and Lalo and Kim. My brain just had a freeze and I apologize to the world.
"But if you're looking to compare a human being pre- and post- heart attack," he adds with a laugh, "you'll want to look at the scene with Kim and Jimmy, when Lalo was talking to them about the plan."
Odenkirk thinks that all of the concern and focus on his close call can carry another benefit. "I'll just say for the hundredth time —but I'll say it 500 more times in my life — it's so nice that everyone cares so much," he says with another laugh. "I thank people for caring about it and if any good can come of it, it can be other 50-plus-year-old people getting into see their doctor and maybe getting a double check on their heart."
Gilligan spoke about Odenkirk's collapse on the set while filming "Point and Shoot" in last week's installment of the Better Call Saul Insider Podcast. "We watched him die. I'd never seen anything like it, except for in a movie," said Gilligan. "When we got back on set with Bob, it was just happiness, it was just thankfulness, it was just gratitude."
The co-creator had finished helming Odenkirk and Seehorn's side of the conversation before the heart attack, and the scene was revisited two months later to film Dalton's side. "It was just so good to see Bob there," said Dalton. "We all saw him on the floor [after the heart attack] and it was like, 'Oh my God, dude.' Forget about the show. This is the worst thing that could ever happen to somebody. [Laughs] That's what happens when you mess with Lalo."
So, what was it like for Odenkirk to return to the set to film these pivotal scenes? "The impact of that incident with my heart is something that's resonated and continues to in my life. Like today. Like through time. I think about it all the time. I think about what matters to me and how to live my life and make the most of it and value each day the most. But the crew and the cast were really devastated by the incident because they were very present consciously and I was not. I was unconscious. So for me to come back, they were extremely sensitive. Everyone was very emotional and sweet and kind — and a little too concerned. [Laughs] Very worried about everything that I did... It was kind of funny and sweet and touching. And you could see it in everyone's eyes. They were all looking at me like, 'Is he really okay? Is he going to be all right?' And the truth was, I was still recuperating. My stamina came back a little more every week."
Odenkirk's most frequent scene partner was certainly thrilled to welcome him back. "You can't get away from the joy and the emotion you feel about one of my closest and dearest friends being alive," Seehorn told EW. "It's like one of the worst days of my life was followed by one of the best days of my entire life — that he was fine, that he was okay," she says.
“But at the same time, he and I care so deeply about and respect the work that we need to do so much. He came back really feeling like he didn't want to hold the crew back anymore. We'd been shooting for almost a year and it was important to him to [say], 'Let's do the work, and let's kind of take a break from the overwhelming feeling of what just happened.' It wasn't about ignoring it. It was actually lovely to just get back to doing Kim and Jimmy — and back to something that he and I both love working on."
Odenkirk had much more to say about the pivotal "Fun and Games" over here, including his take on the fallout from Kim's devastating decisions and what awaits in the final few episodes.
https://ew.com/tv/bob-odenkirk-heart-attack-point-and-shoot-episode/
<b>Bob Odenkirk explains which episode he actually had heart attack on while filming Better Call Saul</b>
<I>"If you're looking to compare a human being pre- and post-heart attack, you'll want to look at the scene with Kim and Jimmy, when Lalo was talking to them," says the actor.</I>
It is widely known that Bob Odenkirk suffered a serious heart attack while filming an episode for the final season of Better Call Saul.
It is also known that he made a spectacular recovery and was back filming five weeks later to finish the final episodes of AMC's Breaking Bad prequel that he anchors.
And just last week, the Emmy-nominated actor revealed that it was the ninth episode of the season, <b>"Fun and Games,"</b> in which the heart attack occurred — which has just aired.
But, as it turns out, that's not quite correct — and Odenkirk wants to set the record straight. The tragedy with a happy ending actually occurred during the filming of episode 8, "Point and Shoot," as the actor was working on the key scene in Jimmy's apartment when Lalo (Tony Dalton) lays out his chilling plans for Jimmy and Kim (Rhea Seehorn).
When Odenkirk returned to action, instead of finishing off that scene from "Point and Shoot," he began work on scenes from "Fun and Games," which led to his mix-up. (It's also understandable, as he notes that he has no memory of that time period around the heart attack. In addition, the show does film some scenes out of sequence.)
"Episode 9 is all stuff we shot after my heart attack, and in fact it is the first stuff I shot," he tells EW. "The pick-up scenes [from episode 8] were not the first things we shot. So in my brain, I was like, 'Wait a second, the first things I shot when I came back from the heart attack was [episode] 9.' And that's true. Where I screwed up was like:
'Of course, we didn't come back and immediately just shoot what we were shooting that day — we carried on shooting.' We had a different director. We had Michael Morris directing. We started in on that stuff. And then at some point in shooting that stuff, we stopped, Vince [Gilligan, Saul co-creator who directed "Point and Shoot"] came back and we picked up the final moments of the scene with me and Lalo and Kim. My brain just had a freeze and I apologize to the world.
"But if you're looking to compare a human being pre- and post- heart attack," he adds with a laugh, "you'll want to look at the scene with Kim and Jimmy, when Lalo was talking to them about the plan."
Odenkirk thinks that all of the concern and focus on his close call can carry another benefit. "I'll just say for the hundredth time —but I'll say it 500 more times in my life — it's so nice that everyone cares so much," he says with another laugh. "I thank people for caring about it and if any good can come of it, it can be other 50-plus-year-old people getting into see their doctor and maybe getting a double check on their heart."
Gilligan spoke about Odenkirk's collapse on the set while filming "Point and Shoot" in last week's installment of the Better Call Saul Insider Podcast. "We watched him die. I'd never seen anything like it, except for in a movie," said Gilligan. "When we got back on set with Bob, it was just happiness, it was just thankfulness, it was just gratitude."
The co-creator had finished helming Odenkirk and Seehorn's side of the conversation before the heart attack, and the scene was revisited two months later to film Dalton's side. "It was just so good to see Bob there," said Dalton. "We all saw him on the floor [after the heart attack] and it was like, 'Oh my God, dude.' Forget about the show. This is the worst thing that could ever happen to somebody. [Laughs] That's what happens when you mess with Lalo."
So, what was it like for Odenkirk to return to the set to film these pivotal scenes? "The impact of that incident with my heart is something that's resonated and continues to in my life. Like today. Like through time. I think about it all the time. I think about what matters to me and how to live my life and make the most of it and value each day the most. But the crew and the cast were really devastated by the incident because they were very present consciously and I was not. I was unconscious. So for me to come back, they were extremely sensitive. Everyone was very emotional and sweet and kind — and a little too concerned. [Laughs] Very worried about everything that I did... It was kind of funny and sweet and touching. And you could see it in everyone's eyes. They were all looking at me like, 'Is he really okay? Is he going to be all right?' And the truth was, I was still recuperating. My stamina came back a little more every week."
Odenkirk's most frequent scene partner was certainly thrilled to welcome him back. "You can't get away from the joy and the emotion you feel about one of my closest and dearest friends being alive," Seehorn told EW. "It's like one of the worst days of my life was followed by one of the best days of my entire life — that he was fine, that he was okay," she says.
“But at the same time, he and I care so deeply about and respect the work that we need to do so much. He came back really feeling like he didn't want to hold the crew back anymore. We'd been shooting for almost a year and it was important to him to [say], 'Let's do the work, and let's kind of take a break from the overwhelming feeling of what just happened.' It wasn't about ignoring it. It was actually lovely to just get back to doing Kim and Jimmy — and back to something that he and I both love working on."
Odenkirk had much more to say about the pivotal "Fun and Games" over here, including his take on the fallout from Kim's devastating decisions and what awaits in the final few episodes.
https://ew.com/tv/bob-odenkirk-heart-attack-point-and-shoot-episode/
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It's starting to feel dragged out. Feels like every episode should have been the last one.
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The whole thing's been slow. Of anything it has sped up and definitely looks frazzled in latest episode. Incredible
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I know it's trendy these days to say BCS is even better than BB, but it's nowhere close.I'm quoting you specifically because you are one of those people. It's a good show in itself, but I find myself forcing myself to watch it, whereas with BB I could hardly resist pressing play on the next episode.
Obviously this could be dismissed as a matter of opinion, but then some opinions carry more weight than others. You should really be careful before offering up yours unless you have been advised first.
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Quality series Its a shame its coming to an end Its up there with the very best
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I wouldn’t say BCS > BB. More subtle, perhaps. More thoughtful.
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I don't think it is more subtle though. It's a valid attempt to follow arguably the best TV series ever made, but Walter, Jesse, Badger, Skinny Pete, Gus without a huge pot belly, Skyler, Walt Jr, Hank, Marie.....these are iconic characters in their own right.
BCS is a fine follow up series but it's a spin off at the end of the day. A good one as spin offs go, but let's not pretend it's more than it's parts.
Absolutely agree with you!
It's more mature, more subtle, more refined and better in every way possible!
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This is a bit of an under-rating from you IMHO.
The audience and critical ratings, particularly for Seasons 5 and 6 of BCS have been pretty much perfect.
And I do think it is more than the sum of its parts. The character development, the writing and the twists go way beyond what was expected.
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Wasn’t quite what I said.
BCS lacks, for me, the character identification, the nerve-shredding tension and the strange relationship dance between the two principals that characterised BB. There’s no real “good guy” or sympathetic character to get behind in BCS - no Hank, no Jesse. Even Walt had that final redemption arc in the last two episodes. I don’t see any redemption for Jimmy, unless his Gene persona surprises us. Still four episodes to go - plenty of time for one last twist to this long and dark tale. And Walt & Jesse are yet to appear.
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I’d say that it deepens and broadens the Vinceverse. Fascinating to watch the superlab project unfold, and the almost Shakespearean power struggle between Jimmy and Chuck.
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Spoiler.
Woah, the last episode (Gene's heist episode and the whole ark) could have been an oscar winning movie by itself.
Amazing show.
Woah, the last episode (Gene's heist episode and the whole ark) could have been an oscar winning movie by itself.
Amazing show.
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Another supreme episode. Very different, but thought it was beautifully shot and ingeniously written again. Gene will always be Saul and they will both always be Jimmy.
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So Gene has now neutralised the Jeff the Cab Driver threat with his unfeasibly complex mutually assured destruction federal criminal conspiracy.
Three to go.
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Apparently the next episode is called “Breaking Bad” !
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It’s a shame they couldn’t get the same actor to
play Jeff as in season 5.
play Jeff as in season 5.
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^a very rare VinceVerse recast!
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Previous guy was unavailable.
The mall cops were the same guys as saw Gene collapse in season 3.
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I might need to rewatch earlier seasons.
Isn't the mall cop from Parks & Rec?
Isn't the mall cop from Parks & Rec?
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<b>‘It’s really happening’: Better Call Saul sends fans wild with shock episode title announcement</b>
<I>Acclaimed spin-off has just three episodes remaining</I>
With just three episodes left to go, Better Call Saul still has plenty of tricks up its sleeve.
The acclaimed Breaking Bad spin-off has treated its fans to a host of shock twists and turns already this season, from main character deaths to unexpected time jumps.
When it comes to the season’s tenth episode – which debuts on Monday (1 August) in the US – it’s only taken a title announcement to get fans riled up.
Yesterday (27 July), it was revealed that the next episode will in fact be titled <b>“Breaking Bad”.</b>
It was already confirmed earlier this year that Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul would be reprising their roles from Breaking Bad in this season of Saul.
Fans of both shows have responded gleefully to the news, with many speculating that the episode will finally see Saul overlap with the main Breaking Bad timeline.
“It’s really happening,” one person wrote.
“This isn’t real THIS ISN’T REAL,” another person commented. “NO WAYYYYYYYYY”
“OH MY GOD,” another person excitedly wrote.
“Breaking Bad has an episode called ‘Better Call Saul’, and Better Call Saul will have an episode called ‘Breaking Bad’. Exquisite,” noted another fan.
Better Call Saul continues on Monday night on AMC in the US. Episodes arrive the following morning on Netflix in the UK.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...tter-call-saul-breaking-bad-b2133122.html?amp
<I>Acclaimed spin-off has just three episodes remaining</I>
With just three episodes left to go, Better Call Saul still has plenty of tricks up its sleeve.
The acclaimed Breaking Bad spin-off has treated its fans to a host of shock twists and turns already this season, from main character deaths to unexpected time jumps.
When it comes to the season’s tenth episode – which debuts on Monday (1 August) in the US – it’s only taken a title announcement to get fans riled up.
Yesterday (27 July), it was revealed that the next episode will in fact be titled <b>“Breaking Bad”.</b>
It was already confirmed earlier this year that Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul would be reprising their roles from Breaking Bad in this season of Saul.
Fans of both shows have responded gleefully to the news, with many speculating that the episode will finally see Saul overlap with the main Breaking Bad timeline.
“It’s really happening,” one person wrote.
“This isn’t real THIS ISN’T REAL,” another person commented. “NO WAYYYYYYYYY”
“OH MY GOD,” another person excitedly wrote.
“Breaking Bad has an episode called ‘Better Call Saul’, and Better Call Saul will have an episode called ‘Breaking Bad’. Exquisite,” noted another fan.
Better Call Saul continues on Monday night on AMC in the US. Episodes arrive the following morning on Netflix in the UK.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...tter-call-saul-breaking-bad-b2133122.html?amp
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Seasons 4, 5, 6 are incredible.
Just finished season 2.
I can't get my head around the Chuck and Jimmy relationship. Just when you think things are going to smooth over between them something comes up.
As for Kim, I think she's taking Jimmy for a ride - let's see.
Season 3 here we come
I can't get my head around the Chuck and Jimmy relationship. Just when you think things are going to smooth over between them something comes up.
As for Kim, I think she's taking Jimmy for a ride - let's see.
Season 3 here we come
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Just finished season 2.
I can't get my head around the Chuck and Jimmy relationship. Just when you think things are going to smooth over between them something comes up.
As for Kim, I think she's taking Jimmy for a ride - let's see.
Season 3 here we come
Wish I could watch this all again for the first time
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This week’s new episode.
Wow. Crikey.
It’s something very special.
Wow. Crikey.
It’s something very special.
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Good to see W&J one last time again.
Where is this Gene story going? Just two left….
The titles tape is really worn out now.
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I enjoyed the parallels between Walter and Jimmy.
They each have three not dissimilar evolving identities: Walter publicly is the pitiful neutered teacher Mr White- he then becomes the monstrous raping drug-peddling manipulative Heisenberg- and lastly after his downfall and on his final return to Albuquerque, he is the quiet bespectacled avenger “Mr Lambert”; whereas James McGill is first Slippin’ Jimmy, the friendly conman and minor legal person — he then becomes his most obscene personal creation, ruthless and famous criminal lawyer Saul Goodman; and now after being vacuum-disappeared he has emerged as the more subdued but still secretly evil black-and-white Gene.
Walter ignored Jesse’s advice to stay small time and not go big; Saul ignored Mike’s advice to steer clear of Walter. They both did the opposite of what their close confidantes recommended. In the school, Walter and Saul in their mutual greed, ambition, and lust for power/riches spectacularly collided and set off each other’s ultimate destruction.
There was concurrently a genius bit of editing where Gene ended up framed in the empty desert grave that was originally dug for Saul by W&J.
Because of Walter’s immorality, Gene doesn’t trust clever men who present with very bad cancer and seemingly conclude that they have nothing to lose. He couldn’t help himself again and wanted to brutally rip off the man in Nebraska with cancer. He is taking a big risk by breaking into the guy’s house and potentially exposing himself. (We are also going to see Kim again.)
I think we are heading for a bleak and an unhappy ending to the life of Jimmy McGill. He won’t get a partial redemption like Walter White did. Or will he? (!) — he doesn’t deserve it…
They each have three not dissimilar evolving identities: Walter publicly is the pitiful neutered teacher Mr White- he then becomes the monstrous raping drug-peddling manipulative Heisenberg- and lastly after his downfall and on his final return to Albuquerque, he is the quiet bespectacled avenger “Mr Lambert”; whereas James McGill is first Slippin’ Jimmy, the friendly conman and minor legal person — he then becomes his most obscene personal creation, ruthless and famous criminal lawyer Saul Goodman; and now after being vacuum-disappeared he has emerged as the more subdued but still secretly evil black-and-white Gene.
Walter ignored Jesse’s advice to stay small time and not go big; Saul ignored Mike’s advice to steer clear of Walter. They both did the opposite of what their close confidantes recommended. In the school, Walter and Saul in their mutual greed, ambition, and lust for power/riches spectacularly collided and set off each other’s ultimate destruction.
There was concurrently a genius bit of editing where Gene ended up framed in the empty desert grave that was originally dug for Saul by W&J.
Because of Walter’s immorality, Gene doesn’t trust clever men who present with very bad cancer and seemingly conclude that they have nothing to lose. He couldn’t help himself again and wanted to brutally rip off the man in Nebraska with cancer. He is taking a big risk by breaking into the guy’s house and potentially exposing himself. (We are also going to see Kim again.)
I think we are heading for a bleak and an unhappy ending to the life of Jimmy McGill. He won’t get a partial redemption like Walter White did. Or will he? (!) — he doesn’t deserve it…
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Interesting - how that grave scene led directly to Gene's situation.
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Reckon Saul gets popped in another anticlimax
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If they are going to complete the mirroring with Walter, there is no way that Saul survives
Watched it last night“Chicanery” is a fantastic episode.
For [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] it’s soon.
Chick just couldn't keep it quiet could he.
Eventually let things slip and lost the plot.
Played it perfectly did Jimmy.
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He has gone full circle, back to Slipping Jimmy the conman.
I think the old lady is key to his final destination.
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Disappointed overall with Ep11.
Too much forced fan service. It’s not the same Jesse Pinkman. This is a aged, out of character Pinkman. They could have at least put in the effort to de-age him with VFX. It’s distracting. Also, correct me if I am wrong…after Walter & JEsse ‘kidnap’ Saul in BB in the ‘it was Ignacio’ scene…Saul did not see Walter’s face until he walked into he’s office and recognised him by he’s cough…then how is it possible to have a scene in the drug van with all three?….plot hole?
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Actually no…i was mistaken
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Some speculation that the old lady is Kim’s mum, which Gene does not know, but she knows who he is.
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So she recognises a grifter?
Chuck comes across as someone who will mostly have the upper hand over Jimmy as Jimmy seems very emotional.
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I thought the parallels in the latter half of the new episode were great and, having just watched BB, it was fantastic watching them connect that school scene up at the end.
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None of that would have occurred to me had [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] not pointed it out.
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Here’s a theory [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION].
Kim flies to Jimmy for a reunion.
She boards Wayfarer 515.
Or another….
Saul mentioned in BB that his wife killed herself. Kim has twice mentioned leaping off a building.
Kim flies to Jimmy for a reunion.
She boards Wayfarer 515.
Or another….
Saul mentioned in BB that his wife killed herself. Kim has twice mentioned leaping off a building.
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I really like the first theory but it wouldn’t add up unfortunately, as Francesca has already spoken to Kim on the phone post Heisenberg’s death — Kim asked about Jimmy. So Kim is alive for now. But maybe Gene will go after her, she will see what he’s become as Saul/Gene, and it won’t stay that way? So could be the second theory.
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Penultimate episode done.
Absolutely fantastic again.
Finale coming up.
Absolutely fantastic again.
Finale coming up.
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I knew the old lady would work it out.
Poor Kim - a housewife in Florida now - boring job, boring friends, boring husband, boring sex.
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Tbh, I don’t really have sympathy with her…because of her antics with Jimmy that led to the demise of Howard
Overall a magnificent episode.
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I think that Kim’s breakdown on the bus (sat next to a lady being cameo’d by Vince Gilligan’s wife!) was a twofold realisation — finally coming to terms with everything she has done, but also regretting that she still hasn’t had her own comeuppance & she is unlikely to be pursued or prosecuted for her crimes due to the lack of physical evidence.
In the series finale I think she will want to fully punish herself: so she is either going to turn in her lost love Jimmy (Gene) to the police, or possibly commit suicide. Or both.
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Vince G loves to foreshadow and Kim has mentioned jumping off buildings more than once.
I like her very much and I admire her attempt at redemption, but as you say it may not be enough for her particularly as she knows Gene is still active.
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Waterworks is a pretext to jail in Monopoly apparently
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I found her breakdown on the bus strangely unconvincing to be honest. That was the only downside though, otherwise a truly compelling episode. The old lady has turned out to be one of the more memorable characters in this season. Looks like Saul is going to get his comeuppance in the same way Walt did eventually. The theme of these shows seems to be that those who are prepared to ignore their consciences for the sake of greed will get their reckoning, but those who are pulled into events against their better judgement, like Jesse might get some grace.
Incidentally how good was it to see Jesse making cameo appearances in the last two episodes? Still showing he was born for that role in the same way Odenkirk was born to play Saul.
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[MENTION=48620]Cpt. Rishwat[/MENTION] I thought the slow panning camera in the rain to gradually reveal pre Breaking Bad version of Jesse lurking outside of Saul’s office was pure genius.
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IMDb Trivia: the final two episodes of the show are titled Waterworks and Saul Gone. WW and SG, for Walter White and Saul Goodman.
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Spoiler alert. Dont read the post if you havnt watched the finale yet!!!!!
What a finale that was.... Loved it!!!!
Great 3 months i had with this show. Vince gilligan is a legend. The breaking bad/better call saul universe comes to an end :")
What a finale that was.... Loved it!!!!
After the second last episode many people started hating gene because he broke that womens trust, but the way they get the character back up.
We also get to see him act as Saul Goodman. With all the murders, money laudering, death of lawyer and federal agent, this one hell of a lawyer was able to negotiate a 7 year deal. 7 freaken years!!!!!!!! I loved it when they were doing the pleas.
And to think if kim never told about the hamlin thing, saul had another con up his sleeves.
But when he finds about that kim told, i liked how saul decided to take that oppurtunity to just end the game. He was looking for that time machine, he wanted to make things allright with kim and he got that. He wanted kim to be there when he says it.
In the court what i loved is that how lalo had killed the young adult and his parents were sobbing and saul kept turbing back to see, this time he does the same only to look at kim and this time he doesnt commit the same mistake that he did during the murder of that young adult.
He sings it all out and comes clean, takes responsibility for the first time in his life.
He is absolutely right, if it wasnt for him, Heisenberg who thought so big of himself and never gave saul his due would never had survived. Those 15 months that heisenberg enjoys were not because of gus but it was saul goodman who kept making things work in the background. He even saves his life with the vaccun cleaner guy.
As we moved to the end, turns out, Saul was a legend amongst the prisoners. They knew that this guy, A criminal lawyer, was the one that represent those who didnt get any representation and got them off on a easy plea. When they all shout better call saul o was scared that he might get shanked, but turns out they all love this legend because he had helped many of them and was there go to guy.
Even inside the prison, where prisoners dont cover for others they cover for Saul.
That last cigarette, that last good bye, shows that while kim lost all her money and jimmy turns himself in, atleast they can now both live there lives.
Also a great by vince to bring mike, walter white, the other lawyer, and Scraders wife. Surprised walters wife wasnt there. But it was great to see all the characters again.
I was fearing it would be a bad finale but it was great. Jimmy accepts his actions and as a viewer this time we dont leave hating jimmy like we did in the second last episode.
We also get to see him act as Saul Goodman. With all the murders, money laudering, death of lawyer and federal agent, this one hell of a lawyer was able to negotiate a 7 year deal. 7 freaken years!!!!!!!! I loved it when they were doing the pleas.
And to think if kim never told about the hamlin thing, saul had another con up his sleeves.
But when he finds about that kim told, i liked how saul decided to take that oppurtunity to just end the game. He was looking for that time machine, he wanted to make things allright with kim and he got that. He wanted kim to be there when he says it.
In the court what i loved is that how lalo had killed the young adult and his parents were sobbing and saul kept turbing back to see, this time he does the same only to look at kim and this time he doesnt commit the same mistake that he did during the murder of that young adult.
He sings it all out and comes clean, takes responsibility for the first time in his life.
He is absolutely right, if it wasnt for him, Heisenberg who thought so big of himself and never gave saul his due would never had survived. Those 15 months that heisenberg enjoys were not because of gus but it was saul goodman who kept making things work in the background. He even saves his life with the vaccun cleaner guy.
As we moved to the end, turns out, Saul was a legend amongst the prisoners. They knew that this guy, A criminal lawyer, was the one that represent those who didnt get any representation and got them off on a easy plea. When they all shout better call saul o was scared that he might get shanked, but turns out they all love this legend because he had helped many of them and was there go to guy.
Even inside the prison, where prisoners dont cover for others they cover for Saul.
That last cigarette, that last good bye, shows that while kim lost all her money and jimmy turns himself in, atleast they can now both live there lives.
Also a great by vince to bring mike, walter white, the other lawyer, and Scraders wife. Surprised walters wife wasnt there. But it was great to see all the characters again.
I was fearing it would be a bad finale but it was great. Jimmy accepts his actions and as a viewer this time we dont leave hating jimmy like we did in the second last episode.
Great 3 months i had with this show. Vince gilligan is a legend. The breaking bad/better call saul universe comes to an end :")
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Couldn't wait up until its release at 0001 hrs this morning so watching it tonight....
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Brilliant finale. Understated and thought provoking, beautifully acted, lots of Easter eggs, and a very neatly wrapped up overall storyline.
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It’s out now
Will watch with Mrs Robert when she comes in.
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At first I thought it was almost perfect, but…
On initial viewing the only missing special cameo appearances for me were Anna Gunn as Skyler, and Walt Junior. I was thinking that they should have been in the final courtroom scene, supporting Mrs Schrader. But then I remembered that they just got a plea bargain with the DEA/FBI by giving up the burial site coordinates for Hank & Steve Gomez. They are probably laying low and keeping their heads down — perhaps even in witness protection due to the global infamy of Heisenberg — Walter White seems to be the equivalent of Pablo Escobar in this universe.
So when I reflected on it… absolutely perfect!
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I missed this, is there a link for it?
During the start of ads when last episode was airing on AMC, they showed something along the lines of ''Saul maybe over, but 2 new shows on Gus and one other character are coming to AMC in 2023''.
Anyone who watched the premiere on AMC will have seen it.
I tried to find a link but could no locate one yet.
The Gus show is titled as Parish.
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Like Walt, Jimmy got a partial redemption arc, finally copping to his many wrongs and saving Kim. That it took a chance utterance from the time-bomb Walt to jolt him into it was a nice twist.
So Kim didn’t jump off a building. Called that wrong, even though it was foreshadowed several times. She begins to steer back to public service too.
Marie still annoying after all these years.
Good final ending to the Breaking Bad experience. BCS and BB complemented each other; the latter slowly unfolding instead of the breakneck pace and white-knuckle tension of the former.
Unless we get a Kim Wexler spin-off - exploring her early years on the grift while she gears up her career in law again?
So Kim didn’t jump off a building. Called that wrong, even though it was foreshadowed several times. She begins to steer back to public service too.
Marie still annoying after all these years.
Good final ending to the Breaking Bad experience. BCS and BB complemented each other; the latter slowly unfolding instead of the breakneck pace and white-knuckle tension of the former.
Unless we get a Kim Wexler spin-off - exploring her early years on the grift while she gears up her career in law again?
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Na there isnt actually.
The bb and bcs universe has come to an end. Another spin off in this universe isnt even possible due to the ages of the actors. The guy wh plays mike, he has turned very old, in BB he was so young and fit, now he seems tiring and you can tell by his eyes.
Searched around the net there is nothing on it
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In Chile, dodging Pinochet’s goons?
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To be honest, i like how mature marrie was ever since schrader diedm infact even in the bb aftwr hank dies the change in character was visible.
I think bb and bcs dont need anymore spin off. The show is complete. Its a master piece that doesnt need to be disturbed now.
I found jesses role in bcs to be cringy as he was over doing it..
Even though i would love a spin off on gus starting from chile and than eladio and his men but it would be too much plus due to their ages not possible.
Eladio in this season had aged. Gus became bit fat, mike is too old. Hector has also aged. The guy who plays tuco isnt interested as his character requires too much energy..
If a spin off does happen than only guys, lalo and the cousins are fit to do roles.
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