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Hazlewood and Archer both are hit the deck kinda bowlers and they were very good in Eng. Even Bumrah was exceptional in 2018. I think Bumrah is not the same he was in 2018. He has been worked out a bit
I will take him over any bowler India has ever produced. All these theories after just two sessions don't make any sense.
He performed well the last time we toured England. He just needs to pitchitoop like he did in West Indies.
Our pace attack is overrated. Ashwin is still India's best bowler although he won't take a fi-fer in SENA.
Jadeja is just a darter and cheap wickets bully. He is Daniel Vettori level all-rounder.
If you are talking about his LOIs performances than yet but when it comes to test I think its obvious India has produced bowlers who have had longer careers than Bumrah would with his action. Zaheer khan and Shami are just two examples.
If you are talking about his LOIs performances than yet but when it comes to test I think its obvious India has produced bowlers who have had longer careers than Bumrah would with his action. Zaheer khan and Shami are just two examples.
I think Jadeja is pretty good but yeah Ashwin is a legit ATG bowler better than Kumble and the best spinner of his generation
Fi-fers are not a correct parameter to judge a bowler overall impact. I personally feel in test cricket, it is more WPM which matters, even more than averages.
If someone has bowl more and got more wickets, then it actually means he was the captain's go to man and leader of attack. That's why Ashwin will always be a better test bowler than Jadeja irrespective of whatever the averages suggest. Jadeja has WPM of 4.0 and Ashwin has 5.0.
Among pacers, it will be interesting to look at the WPM since 2018.
The writing is on the wall.
Jasprit Bumrah is a special talent but he cannot continue to remain a "premier" and a match winning fast bowler if he is going to be mercilessly used in all 3 formats plus a regular IPL season.
It doesn't work for anyone let alone someone of his unique and injury prone bowling action.
It's about money and fame as well but Bumrah must decide if it's all about koney for him or he cares about leaving a legacy.
Needs to be used only in strategically important matches in my opinion. If he is unable to bowl his heart out it's a shame.
5 fers win u test matches ( unless it 5-125 ) . It signifies ur ability to run thru a side. That's what matters
Ashwin & Jadeja will never win u matches in SENA. Bumrah will do
Bumrah has hardly played any international cricket during last 6 months. This, I think has been his bane.
And no, IPL won't ever prepare him for hard grind of test cricket.
Agree with this. This is mostly a case of misplaced priorities for Bumrah. The way he takes international cricket for granted is so bloody cringe worthy. Misses games for India at will on pretext of injuries, only to get miraculously fit by the time IPL arrives.He is taking international cricket for granted. Skipping intl games and remaining available for IPL won't do him any good. If he doesn't take any wicket he will become a liability because as I stated in the other thread he has a batting average of 2, 3 and 4 in tests, odis and t20s respectively. Bowlers like Srinath used to give it their all when they played for India and here we have players who keep skipping international games.![]()
A self-explanatory example of Mohammad Shami in this inning.
This is a brilliant performance from him but I don't think it changes much if he had taken a fi-fer.
He is taking international cricket for granted. Skipping intl games and remaining available for IPL won't do him any good. If he doesn't take any wicket he will become a liability because as I stated in the other thread he has a batting average of 2, 3 and 4 in tests, odis and t20s respectively. Bowlers like Srinath used to give it their all when they played for India and here we have players who keep skipping international games.![]()
There used to be less games in Srinath's times
Great bowling by Shami - but at the end of the day NZ were at 135-5 & ended up taking a lead which has put India on the defensive now
This is difference between a 5 fer & just good bowling for a 4-76. Had Shami taken a 5-50 & bowled out NZ for say 170 , India wud have been in winning position. Right now we are basically trying to play out a draw
This is what Bumrah does on his good days - takes a 5 fer & a 8-9 wicket haul for the test at cheap average & puts India in winning position
<B>India won 8 overseas tests in last 3 years & Bumrah played 7 of them & taken 47 wickets. Not a coincidence. Bumrah was the matchwinner in all 7 games</B>
Only issue with Bumrah is his consistency. He needs to produce these match winning spells more frequently. rifhr now he does it once every 3-4 tests
Furthermore, since 01 Jan 2018( Bumrah's debut in tests):-
Most matches played for India in Tests/ODIs/T20s combined:-
Bumrah 74
Shami 58
Bhuvi 63
Ishant 23( only plays tests)
Counting since 2018 because this is when he started playing all three formats.
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Hope what you said proves to be true and that this is just a minor blip for Bumrah and he comes back stronger in England tests.Think it was just an off-day for Bumrah, it doesn't mean he is overrated or finished. Bad weather and lack of bowling with the red ball over the last three months can all contribute towards a lack of rhythm. Complacency can't be allowed to set in with test match bowling, Bumrah just needs a few long spells to regain his sharpness. He's got the best possible bowling coach to help him sort out any technical issues that he might be having.
There was no IPL in Srinath's time. So we wud never know. Most likely he wud have chosen IPL over international cricket. Money is massive factor for most humans
Look at Michael Holding. He keeps on about IPL but in 1977 he readily gave up West Indies cricket to join Kerry Packer circus
Those stats are worst.Went for 68 in 9 overs with no wickets in CT17 final, took one wicket in WC19 Semifinal vs NZ and now wicketless in test championship final.
Went for 68 in 9 overs with no wickets in CT17 final, took one wicket in WC19 Semifinal vs NZ and now wicketless in test championship final.
Things not going well so far in the big matches. Surely needs to improve this aspect.
lol, and playing him in every IPL game year after year is very meaningful. Well done.Little point in making Bumrah play meaning less ODIs & T20s & burn him out
I wud preserve him for SENA tests & ICC events. Look at how South Affrica maintained Dale Steyn's workload in his early years
This.Those stats are worst.
He is happy to serve Ambani's, he shows more intent In IPL.
Bumrah relies on a combination of awkward action + pace.Not very skillful with the seam or wrist positions.
The day he loses some pace he'll be hit to all corners
Bumrah relies on a combination of awkward action + pace.Not very skillful with the seam or wrist positions.
The day he loses some pace he'll be hit to all corners
He is just 20 tests into his career. Dips in form and fitness will come. People are making it sound like he's a 100 test veteran. Form can dip at any time. Although chokers usually lose form at the most needed time constantly. Don't know if Bumrah is a choker or not, he seemed very rusty in WTC final. But i fear for his elbow, that stiff bowling action can not be good on his elbow joint in long term. He may end up with a tendon tear or tennis elbow.
Bumrah is already 27 with a dangerous bowling action, if he can't make hay while the sun still shines upon him, he won't be having a good future.
World T20 will be key for him in terms of ICC tournaments as much of his legacy has built based on his T20 performance.
For tests, the series in England will obviously be key.
Tbh even if india win 4-0 it’ll be meaningless they already lost what they had been doing all this for the past two years .
He has still got 3 to 5 year of peak left for test cricket
LOL he can't swing the ball with that action.He can seam the ball but certainly can't swing the ball.He was swinging the ball miles both ways during WI tour 2019. It just disappeared after recovering from stress fracture
Eng tour will be very important
LOL he can't swing the ball with that action.He can seam the ball but certainly can't swing the ball.
He actually got prodigious swing with the Dukes in the Caribbean.
But he seems to have lost it completely, especially after his stress fracture.
He was swinging the ball miles both ways during WI tour 2019. It just disappeared after recovering from stress fracture
Eng tour will be very important
Tbh even if india win 4-0 it’ll be meaningless they already lost what they had been doing all this for the past two years .
If India win the series in England, it will be better than a one off WTC win. This is test cricket, where bilateral series wins in SENA will be the top achievement.
In order to be Indias greatest bowler he needs to perform at hightes level for 7-8 years, at least. You can't have 3-4 good years and all of the sudden you are the best bowler.
It's now his real test starts, can he make a comeback and have another 3-4 for years like he previously had? If yes, he will not only be on of India's greatest but on of Worlds best bowlers. Pace bolwing is no joke and you have to praise Jimmy Anderson, Broad, Steyn from current bowlers who have delivered for many many years. Even Ishant Sharma have shown he can last long though his average is on the highter side in Test cricket.
And it'll fall further if he doesn't stop prioritizing IPL over international cricket.Jasprit Bumrah's Test Ranking
Before WTC Final - 11
After WTC Final - 19
Really disappointed by Bumrah. Not as much by his diminishing returns as an international bowler but by his attitude for taking international cricket for granted.Greatest? He wants to be India's richest bowler.![]()
And it'll fall further if he doesn't stop prioritizing IPL over international cricket.
His IPL value will go down if his international performances keep plummeting like this.I doubt he cares. He will be worried only if his IPL value goes down.![]()
His IPL value will go down if his international performances keep plummeting like this.