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Day 5: 1st Test, Pak vs Eng - Update thread [17/7/06]

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Asalaaam alikum Wr wb brothers;

I have just managed to come now, pakistan could'nt bowl england out ?! and they have lost butt on the first ball ! :O bad start. May farhat score atleaat a century and so does fiasal INSHALLAH.
 
Another one down the legside, if Pakistan bowled like this, I'd be very unhappy
 
If the target was about 350 or 360 we could have stretched to play for a win but the target being 380 i think inzamam would play for a draw.
 
england will be thinkin to play panesar and post a threat, however panesar's spin isnt vicous at all, so pak is quite safe for the draw, i doubt they want to win but its not hard to chase that score on this flat track with the capability of our batsmen
 
Pakistan need another 347 runs and 9 wickets remaining.

Another 67 overs remaining in the day.

What do you guys think end of the day ?
 
Drive attempt, only manages an outside edge.

Pakistan 2 down.
 
What farhat out ????? useless openners. They could not live upto the expectations, absoulutely pathetic. If we had options i would drop both of them, useless !. Putting pakistan under immense pressure. Farhat is not good enough to play at this level. I mentioned yesterday in a thread started by miggy bhai that farhat has technical flaw he loves fishing outside off. When will be ever learn from repeated stupid mistakes. Sickening :12:
 
What a time to go! just before lunch. These two so-called specialist openers. They cant bat, they cant catch so what the hell are they playing for ? :20:
 
Muyazzim Khan said:
What a time to go! just before lunch. These two so-called specialist openers. They cant bat, they cant catch so what the hell are they playing for ? :20:
What are the alternatives?
 
Some guys here are idiotically hoping that we will win. Get real! In these situations a team must keep wickets in tact and play out the overs and then and only then if there is a chance have a go.
 
The problem is we were just 50 runs short of 500, if Faisel Iqbal in the first innings and the openers had put a better start we could have been in a better position in this test match.

Next test match Taufeeq Umar will open the innings with Farhat. And Younis Khan will be back than hopefully. And our strike bowlers will still be not in the playing 11. So that means we should make a big score and our batsman need to click in, Afridi and Kaneria will do the job.
 
This is gonna be an easy win for England. All they need is 4 wickets a session (assuming Pakistan don't loose anymore in this one).
 
man..malik as opener doesnt seem all that bad now...we will just have to stick out with our useless opening options!!
 
banana_246 said:
This is gonna be an easy win for England. All they need is 4 wickets a session (assuming Pakistan don't loose anymore in this one).

Nah Mohammed Yousuf is in form, Inzi still to come and Kamran Akmal also looked very good before he got out with a lazy shot of pieterson :10:
 
Yousuf playing quite well and fast. All thats needed now is a 45 ball 100 from Afridi and a 35 ball 50 from Razzaq
 
banana_246 said:
This is gonna be an easy win for England. All they need is 4 wickets a session (assuming Pakistan don't loose anymore in this one).
To be honest, they only need Yusuf and Inzi's wickets, the rest should be easy. England are 37-3 at the moment, as I would not count Afridi's as a wicket they have to take...he will give it away himself.
 
spongebob said:
What are the alternatives?

Get someone like Bazid Khan to open or try out Rafatullah Mohmand or some other players. Those who criticise Malik should have a good look at these specialist openers. Malik played a blinder in SL with a vicious 5th day turning pitch against Murali. These boys are mentally weak and technically flawed. At least Taufeeq has 4 tons and is a quality slipper. I reckon we must replace Butt with Taufeeq.
 
A win for Pakistan was out of the equation the moment Eng's lead went pass 300. Yousaf, have to do it again, twice in 3 days. Hopefully, they don't lose another wicket before Lunch. Thou, looking highly unlikly with Faisal's shaky stay in the middle

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Taufeeq umar is no better than farhat or butt, he just as useless as farhat. What's the news on shoaib malik, does he have any chance of recovering in time to play perhaps third test onwards ?
 
our openers are a joke, and i always knew that we would loose them in first 15 minutes ...

and anyone thinking that taufeeq will be any different from the tried and tested failures ... are only living in a fools paradise.

Farhat, Butt, Hameed, Taufeeq are terrible at batting and fielding ...
 
Bilsher007 said:
Taufeeq umar is no better than farhat or butt, he just as useless as farhat. What's the news on shoaib malik, does he have any chance of recovering in time to play perhaps third test onwards ?

Malik is completely out of the series. At least Umar made 260 runs against SA in SA @ an avg of 60. He is probably the best slip catcher in the team too along with Younis Khan and Inzi.
 
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Sky are showing a good little package now on sledging – showing that mild mannered man Ian Bell having a few chirpy words with Faisal Iqbal from short-leg. It worked
 
someone suggested Malik and Hafeez for opening and that dosen't sound that terrible
 
overlord said:
our openers are a joke, and i always knew that we would loose them in first 15 minutes ...

and anyone thinking that taufeeq will be any different from the tried and tested failures ... are only living in a fools paradise.

Farhat, Butt, Hameed, Taufeeq are terrible at batting and fielding ...

Are you mad ? Given he may have failed with the bat recently but his fielding and catching is far far better than Farhat and the Butt.
 
Monty Panesar is warming up now

what you think would it be easier playing than the fast bowler?
 
We just don't have quality openers. Even Shoaib Malik is not test class...we will always always rely on our middle order
 
Taufiq, IMO, has a better temperament than the present Pakistani openers. It was a bad thing on his part that he lost his way with he National Team. However, he got four creditable tons on his part, off which two were against strong proteas XI. I'am all for replacing him with Salman Butt...
 
overlord said:
our openers are a joke, and i always knew that we would loose them in first 15 minutes ...

and anyone thinking that taufeeq will be any different from the tried and tested failures ... are only living in a fools paradise.

Farhat, Butt, Hameed, Taufeeq are terrible at batting and fielding ...

Funny you say that - if BW/Inzi change them, people shout "inconsistent/revolving door policy" - so now we see why Pak have a problem.
 
Muyazzim Khan said:
He is completely out of the series. At least Umar made 260 runs against SA in SA @ an avg of 60. He is probably the best slip catcher in the team too along with Younis Khan and Inzi.


you mean the same guy who dropped Shewag 3 times (or was it two) in the first game of Jeet lo dil ........ he is a terrible flieder ... slip or no slip
 
Not fair on yousuf, inzamam and kamran. The top order has failed once again, farhat and butt are mentally weak and techinically flawed certainly. I so angry on these two, total let down.
 
spongebob said:
We just don't have quality openers. Even Shoaib Malik is not test class...we will always always rely on our middle order

To be honest, all of the Pakistani openers have been shyte since the retirement of Saeed Anwar, and to an extent Amir Sohail.
 
butt is alright.he is just need more overs under his belt.

jeez pakistan really miss saeed anwar.
 
Elan Tedronai said:
butt is alright.he is just need more overs under his belt.

jeez pakistan really miss saeed anwar.

When you miss the first ball, slow and harmless aimed at your leg stump, you wont get too many overs to play , will you ?
 
And its lunch. Well Pakistan survived, but not well. England will be pretty happy going into the dresseng room, getting two Pakistan wickets. Faisal Iqbal doesn't look too good and seems to be leaving soon.
 
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