Do BJP owe its success to Anti Pakistan and Anti Muslim rhethoric rather than any tangible performance?

[Local.Dada]

Sure you are right it's for you guys to worry about...but you are going round in circles... we are discussing Modi comments but you keep bringing random unrelated stuff. If you don't want us to discuss what Modi has said perhaps you can advise him not to say it.

Anyway since only Indians should worry...Please give some insights....as an Indian why do you think Modi brought up this example? And going back to the the statements from the article.

Anyway as confirmed by your politician in your own assembly, Modi was ready for a full scale war if our pilot hadn’t been released which resulted in your army chief.

Imran Khan and Qureshi bricking it. This was confirmed by Indian ambassador in Pakistan at that time too but anyway you may not believe that but this was also discussed on mainstream Pakistan media. Some confirming this too. Plenty of clips available. Let me know if interested I can help search them on YouTube/ Google in that box for you.

Now once that situation has been de-escalated, it doesn’t make sense for Modi to re-start a war. He internally took steps of revoking or changing some rules about Kashmir (over simplifying for your iq level). Pakistan is not doing well politically or economically, so he will further that narratve as a politician.

What exactly are you finding so complicated to follow and what part of your question is this not addressing?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Modi is a politician and a good one at that.He took the step of revoking article 370 which hurt the Kashmir issue for Pakistan, not for India. On top of that Pakistan is doing a good job of messing itself and losing credibility in pretty much every parameter So like a great politician he will take advantage of that and set his own narrative and milk that all he wants for votes. There is nothing at least from a Pakistan perspective to mock and laugh at Modi. Sure, he maybe over selling but that’s for us Indians to worry about. In terms of stature, world standing and pretty much all parameters he is in better shape than all Pakistani politicians or leadership. I would worry about that. If you want to nitpick something that makes you feel oh Modi is coward etc and Pakistan defeated him or whatever; go crazy with it.

Here we go again. Article 370 is back into this discussion. @DeadlyVenom must have asked a pretty tough question.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Oh you want to get down to that kind of language now, do you ?

Anyway as confirmed by your politician in your own assembly, Modi was ready for a full scale war if our pilot hadn’t been released which resulted in your army chief,
Imran Khan and Qureshi bricking it. This was confirmed by Indian ambassador in Pakistan at that time too but anyway you may not believe that but this was also discussed on mainstream Pakistan media. Some confirming this too. Plenty of clips available. Let me know if interested I can help search them on YouTube/ Google in that box for you.

Now once that situation has been de-escalated, it doesn’t make sense for Modi to re-start a war. He internally took steps of revoking or changing some rules about Kashmir (over simplifying for your iq level). Pakistan is not doing well politically or economically, so he will further that narratve as a politician.

What exactly are you finding so complicated to follow and what part of your question is this not addressing?

I think we are going round in circles and unlikely to make any headway so best to leave the discussion. If you don't want us discussing Modis statements then as I mentioned to Joshillabhai then ask him to switch off the microphones or next time ask him to whisper in your ear so we can't hear them.

We can maybe pick up the discussion again next time Modi mentions Pakistan.

For now I'm not interested in discussing 370 or Pakistans economy becshse it has no relation to his statements.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What stopped them launching the missiles?

We got the US who said that Pakistan was ready to nuke India but were urged not to.

Why did Modi decide not to launch? Please give us an answer.

Pakistan agreed to release Abhinandan without any conditions.

The same US said India was ready to nuke Pakistan. Read Mike Pompeos book.

He wanted his Officer back at all costs. He got what he wanted.

 

[rpant_gabba]

I’m curious if Pakistan’s would recognize a proper functioning government to participate in this poll.

 

[Technics 1210]

So in a nutshell, without Pakistan there is no BJP/RSS in power.

You couldn't make it up.

 

[HalBass9]

Anyway as confirmed by your politician in your own assembly, Modi was ready for a full scale war if our pilot hadn’t been released which resulted in your army chief.

Imran Khan and Qureshi bricking it. This was confirmed by Indian ambassador in Pakistan at that time too but anyway you may not believe that but this was also discussed on mainstream Pakistan media. Some confirming this too. Plenty of clips available. Let me know if interested I can help search them on YouTube/ Google in that box for you.

Now once that situation has been de-escalated, it doesn’t make sense for Modi to re-start a war. He internally took steps of revoking or changing some rules about Kashmir (over simplifying for your iq level). Pakistan is not doing well politically or economically, so he will further that narratve as a politician.

What exactly are you finding so complicated to follow and what part of your question is this not addressing?

The narrative emitting from India has been that Pakistan returned Abhinandan because Pakistan feared nuclear retaliation, which raises few questions about Indian general population and it should be concerning to see the political intellectual decline of vast majority of Indian population.

How did India’s establisment expected Pakistan to retaliate after, what was the game plan after nuking Pakistan?

Were Indian establishment ready to go that far over one pilot that they would've risked getting nuked in retaliation?

Even India were to use conventional weapons then the question remains, Pakistan would have had no choice but to retaliate in similar manner, what was the game plan after India's response to Pakistan retaliation?

Even Israel didn't attack Iran’s nuclear facilities despite having superior Airforce and military tech. But, why did India's establishment believed after dropping Nukes in Nuclear armed country expected no Nuclear retaliation? India had acquired Iron dome that none of us were aware? If India had superior Airforce compared to Pakistan then why India was not able to prevent initial Pakistan's retaliation? Why was India jets flying as if they were headless chicken and shooting down their own?

There's video by Pakistani politician about Bajwa. I'm sure Indian politician or Generals would be scared to start a nuclear war the way Bajwa was. But it was IK who promised to retaliate and under his government Pakistan did. Not only he fulfilled that promised but he had also promised to be not an aggressor and looked to de-escalate even before the conflict started.

Returning Abhinanden was not only the correct decision but it also aligned with initial Pakistani narrative, which was to not escalate, please do not confuse escalation with retaliation, Pakistan had no option but to retaliate India's aggression. That was a great PR move by Pakistani government, not only domestically but internationally, and Pakistan played it well.

Why is Indian population, some of the well educated, are continuing to regurgitate ill-planned and unrealistic talking points? Such narrative is expected from TV anchor, a politician who has nothing else to show, but why aren't general Indian population questioning sanity of their government if their government actually considered to use Nuke, how come no one is pushing back and questioning the sanity of their government but rather regurgitating some of the most elementary talking points?

Some of the pro-Modi crowd will enter in this discussion with comments such as, "Pakistan is broke", "No one care about Pakistan", "Pakistan do not understand democracy ( actually last election has shown that Pakistan are more than capable of understanding democracy, but that it for another thread)"

 

[guard]

The narrative emitting from India has been that Pakistan returned Abhinandan because Pakistan feared nuclear retaliation, which raises few questions about Indian general population and it should be concerning to see the political intellectual decline of vast majority of Indian population.

How did India’s establisment expected Pakistan to retaliate after, what was the game plan after nuking Pakistan?

Were Indian establishment ready to go that far over one pilot that they would've risked getting nuked in retaliation?

Even India were to use conventional weapons then the question remains, Pakistan would have had no choice but to retaliate in similar manner, what was the game plan after India's response to Pakistan retaliation?

Even Israel didn't attack Iran’s nuclear facilities despite having superior Airforce and military tech. But, why did India's establishment believed after dropping Nukes in Nuclear armed country expected no Nuclear retaliation? India had acquired Iron dome that none of us were aware? If India had superior Airforce compared to Pakistan then why India was not able to prevent initial Pakistan's retaliation? Why was India jets flying as if they were headless chicken and shooting down their own?

There's video by Pakistani politician about Bajwa. I'm sure Indian politician or Generals would be scared to start a nuclear war the way Bajwa was. But it was IK who promised to retaliate and under his government Pakistan did. Not only he fulfilled that promised but he had also promised to be not an aggressor and looked to de-escalate even before the conflict started.

Returning Abhinanden was not only the correct decision but it also aligned with initial Pakistani narrative, which was to not escalate, please do not confuse escalation with retaliation, Pakistan had no option but to retaliate India's aggression. That was a great PR move by Pakistani government, not only domestically but internationally, and Pakistan played it well.

Why is Indian population, some of the well educated, are continuing to regurgitate ill-planned and unrealistic talking points? Such narrative is expected from TV anchor, a politician who has nothing else to show, but why aren't general Indian population questioning sanity of their government if their government actually considered to use Nuke, how come no one is pushing back and questioning the sanity of their government but rather regurgitating some of the most elementary talking points?

Some of the pro-Modi crowd will enter in this discussion with comments such as, "Pakistan is broke", "No one care about Pakistan", "Pakistan do not understand democracy ( actually last election has shown that Pakistan are more than capable of understanding democracy, but that it for another thread)"

Only on a Pakistani forum will non-Pakistanis entertain such bluster, and only Pakistanis tolerate it. Needs correcting.
Should have let the nukes fly…what was stopping them.

 

[Technics 1210]

Only on a Pakistani forum will non-Pakistanis entertain such bluster, and only Pakistanis tolerate it. Needs correcting.
Should have let the nukes fly…what was stopping them.

What is stopping your Modi and beloved India dropping Nukes on Pakistan now? What is India waiting for? The next ODI WC?

Kashmir is for the taking - ahh that's right - no anti-Pakistan drivel, and there's no illiterate to wrap it up in the 100s of millions.

They only bravado from Indians, is on a Pakistani forum, that too through anonymity.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Guys no more off topic discussion plz, just steer the debate well on topic.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Some neighbors with any discussion happening about pakistan and muslims "your economy is trash" "ummah is asleep" "islam is evil", "#iloveisrael" "give back our subcontinent" Any Pakistani about a discussion on india, same people again "your economy is trash" "ummah is asleep" "islam is evil", "#iloveisrael" "give back our subcontinent"
Some real grown up nerves and comeback I must say.
If you don't want to have civil discussions, why bother

Ps Doesn't change the fact there are thousands of amazing people in India as well whose life objective isn't to eat turmeric and chilies all day and let their flatus fueled mind do the talking.

 

[Technics 1210]

The power of nightmares. Society is controlled through fear and it is clear BJP/RSS are using the fear of Pakistan AND Islam to rally the illiterate voters in India.

India lives in persistent fear of Pakistan, and BJP/RSS are cashing in on it.

 

[Local.Dada]

The narrative emitting from India has been that Pakistan returned Abhinandan because Pakistan feared nuclear retaliation, which raises few questions about Indian general population and it should be concerning to see the political intellectual decline of vast majority of Indian population.

How did India’s establisment expected Pakistan to retaliate after, what was the game plan after nuking Pakistan?

Were Indian establishment ready to go that far over one pilot that they would've risked getting nuked in retaliation?

Even India were to use conventional weapons then the question remains, Pakistan would have had no choice but to retaliate in similar manner, what was the game plan after India's response to Pakistan retaliation?

Even Israel didn't attack Iran’s nuclear facilities despite having superior Airforce and military tech. But, why did India's establishment believed after dropping Nukes in Nuclear armed country expected no Nuclear retaliation? India had acquired Iron dome that none of us were aware? If India had superior Airforce compared to Pakistan then why India was not able to prevent initial Pakistan's retaliation? Why was India jets flying as if they were headless chicken and shooting down their own?

There's video by Pakistani politician about Bajwa. I'm sure Indian politician or Generals would be scared to start a nuclear war the way Bajwa was. But it was IK who promised to retaliate and under his government Pakistan did. Not only he fulfilled that promised but he had also promised to be not an aggressor and looked to de-escalate even before the conflict started.

Returning Abhinanden was not only the correct decision but it also aligned with initial Pakistani narrative, which was to not escalate, please do not confuse escalation with retaliation, Pakistan had no option but to retaliate India's aggression. That was a great PR move by Pakistani government, not only domestically but internationally, and Pakistan played it well.

Why is Indian population, some of the well educated, are continuing to regurgitate ill-planned and unrealistic talking points? Such narrative is expected from TV anchor, a politician who has nothing else to show, but why aren't general Indian population questioning sanity of their government if their government actually considered to use Nuke, how come no one is pushing back and questioning the sanity of their government but rather regurgitating some of the most elementary talking points?

Some of the pro-Modi crowd will enter in this discussion with comments such as, "Pakistan is broke", "No one care about Pakistan", "Pakistan do not understand democracy ( actually last election has shown that Pakistan are more than capable of understanding democracy, but that it for another thread)"

You have appointed the moniker “big boyl

The narrative emitting from India has been that Pakistan returned Abhinandan because Pakistan feared nuclear retaliation, which raises few questions about Indian general population and it should be concerning to see the political intellectual decline of vast majority of Indian population.

How did India’s establisment expected Pakistan to retaliate after, what was the game plan after nuking Pakistan?

Were Indian establishment ready to go that far over one pilot that they would've risked getting nuked in retaliation?

Even India were to use conventional weapons then the question remains, Pakistan would have had no choice but to retaliate in similar manner, what was the game plan after India's response to Pakistan retaliation?

Even Israel didn't attack Iran’s nuclear facilities despite having superior Airforce and military tech. But, why did India's establishment believed after dropping Nukes in Nuclear armed country expected no Nuclear retaliation? India had acquired Iron dome that none of us were aware? If India had superior Airforce compared to Pakistan then why India was not able to prevent initial Pakistan's retaliation? Why was India jets flying as if they were headless chicken and shooting down their own?

There's video by Pakistani politician about Bajwa. I'm sure Indian politician or Generals would be scared to start a nuclear war the way Bajwa was. But it was IK who promised to retaliate and under his government Pakistan did. Not only he fulfilled that promised but he had also promised to be not an aggressor and looked to de-escalate even before the conflict started.

Returning Abhinanden was not only the correct decision but it also aligned with initial Pakistani narrative, which was to not escalate, please do not confuse escalation with retaliation, Pakistan had no option but to retaliate India's aggression. That was a great PR move by Pakistani government, not only domestically but internationally, and Pakistan played it well.

Why is Indian population, some of the well educated, are continuing to regurgitate ill-planned and unrealistic talking points? Such narrative is expected from TV anchor, a politician who has nothing else to show, but why aren't general Indian population questioning sanity of their government if their government actually considered to use Nuke, how come no one is pushing back and questioning the sanity of their government but rather regurgitating some of the most elementary talking points?

Some of the pro-Modi crowd will enter in this discussion with comments such as, "Pakistan is broke", "No one care about Pakistan", "Pakistan do not understand democracy ( actually last election has shown that Pakistan are more than capable of understanding democracy, but that it for another thread)"

So basically summary of your post which I must say is impressive for the way you articulated: Indian intellectual decline is a result of Indians buying Modi’s chooran who was humiliated by Pakistan and Imran Khan’s leadership. I mean look at India’s standing.

Imran Khan’s valiant defeat of India resulted in him being put away in jail. I am sure defeating India should override something as petty as a free watch and that too a conflict with the army that he led so bravely against India which led to a de-escalation. Why isn’t he getting the Nobel peace prize instead for avoiding a nuclear war? India-Pakistan war, doesn’t get bigger than that. Does it?

I don’t know if I see more holes than before or I am satisfied with this beautifully crafted response.

Also sure Indians take dig at Pakistan’s economy and sometimes crudely. I see no pleasure in making fun of the under-privileged no matter where they are from.
However in this context Pakistan’s economy definitely matters.Pakistan’s economy also has a direct correlation to its diplomacy or diplomatic power which is 80-90% of the war and not just artillery power.

How do you think Pakistan will sustain a a full-scale war with India? Nuclear weapon is the last option. Pakistanis usually take everything to the extreme. There are so many other aspects to a war: Army, navy, airforce, missile power, satellite capability, battles in the political and diplomatic front. So many aspects to a full-fledged war.

Pak de-escalated because they had 0 options. Obviously if push comes to shove even a concerned cat becomes lethal but the point is to avoid it to get things so far. Indias economic, Military and diplomatic strength definitely has a part. That’s the bitter truth but as I said if you take this as win, I have no problem seeing the larger picture.

 

[HalBass9]

You have appointed the moniker “big boyl


So basically summary of your post which I must say is impressive for the way you articulated: Indian intellectual decline is a result of Indians buying Modi’s chooran who was humiliated by Pakistan and Imran Khan’s leadership. I mean look at India’s standing.

Imran Khan’s valiant defeat of India resulted in him being put away in jail. I am sure defeating India should override something as petty as a free watch and that too a conflict with the army that he led so bravely against India which led to a de-escalation. Why isn’t he getting the Nobel peace prize instead for avoiding a nuclear war? India-Pakistan war, doesn’t get bigger than that. Does it?

I don’t know if I see more holes than before or I am satisfied with this beautifully crafted response.

Also sure Indians take dig at Pakistan’s economy and sometimes crudely. I see no pleasure in making fun of the under-privileged no matter where they are from.
However in this context Pakistan’s economy definitely matters.Pakistan’s economy also has a direct correlation to its diplomacy or diplomatic power which is 80-90% of the war and not just artillery power.

How do you think Pakistan will sustain a a full-scale war with India? Nuclear weapon is the last option. Pakistanis usually take everything to the extreme. There are so many other aspects to a war: Army, navy, airforce, missile power, satellite capability, battles in the political and diplomatic front. So many aspects to a full-fledged war.

Pak de-escalated because they had 0 options. Obviously if push comes to shove even a concerned cat becomes lethal but the point is to avoid it to get things so far. Indias economic, Military and diplomatic strength definitely has a part. That’s the bitter truth but as I said if you take this as win, I have no problem seeing the larger picture.Respectfully, you have comprehension issue. Please re-read and try it again.

But here is the summary, Indian are propagating the narrative that India was ready to Nuke Pakistan over a fallen pilot. Not Pakistani.

What was the game plan for India after Nuking Pakistan as Pakistan had no option but to retaliate with Nuke. Again, India wanted to Nuke first.

And why aren't Indian asking that question but after reading your reply, I do understand why many Indian automatically without any thought regurgitate such narrative.

Now please try to reply to the highlighted part without going on tangent that has nothing to do with my initial query.
Thanks

Regarding escalation, Pakistan did escalated by measured retaliation, made sure no life was lost within Indian territory, it was India response to Pakistan retaliation lead Indian soldiers loss of life.

 

[HalBass9]

The power of nightmares. Society is controlled through fear and it is clear BJP/RSS are using the fear of Pakistan AND Islam to rally the illiterate voters in India.

India lives in persistent fear of Pakistan, and BJP/RSS are cashing in on it.

Easily one of the most gullible educated society in modern history - Instead of questioning their politician what would have been the game plan after Nuking a Nuclear armed nation, they blindly regurgitate the narrative of hate and ignorance as if that make them appear superior and smarter.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

@Local.Dada and @HalBass9, don't turn it into nuclear war thread and plz remain on topic.

 

[HalBass9]

@Local.Dada and @HalBass9, don't turn it into nuclear war thread and plz remain on topic.

Thread title "

Do BJP owe its success to Anti Pakistan and Anti Muslim rhethoric rather than any tangible performance?"​

That event is part of the history and rightly fell under the title of this thread to compliment the title.
Highlighting historical narrative coming out of India should be part discussion in this thread.

Thanks

 

[Technics 1210]

Easily one of the most gullible educated society in modern history - Instead of questioning their politician what would have been the game plan after Nuking a Nuclear armed nation, they blindly regurgitate the narrative of hate and ignorance as if that make them appear superior and smarter.

I don't buy the educated line, and even if I did, my opinion is simple - austerity breeds fascism and crime.

The masses need an excuse for their failures and hardship and they have found one through RSS/BGP - Pakistan.

All this talk of Indian riches blah blah only refers to the top 1% of Indians living in India, classic case of rich getting richer and the poor, poorer.

This Is why majority of these so called educated Indians want to bail on the falsehoods of India for a better quality of life in the West, or even UAE/ME.

The sad reality is that Modi's Hindutva ideology survives on fear, revenge, and revisionism (essentially brainwashing) and this ideology will long survive after Modi is gone.

Its all about the Benjamins.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistan crying because Congress dying: Modi

Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Thursday dubbed the Congress party a "disciple" of Pakistan, and said the neighbouring country was eager to make the 'shehzada' of the grand old party the next prime minister of India.

His comments came amid reports that Chaudhry Fawad Hussain, a former minister in Imran Khan's cabinet in Pakistan, shared a video featuring Congress leader Rahul Gandhi on his social media handle and praised him.

"Pakistan is crying because Congress is dying here. Pakistani leaders are praying for Congress. Pakistan is eager to make 'shehzada' (referring to Rahul Gandhi) the next prime minister. This is not surprising because we already know that Congress is Pakistan's 'mureed' (disciple). The partnership between Pakistan and Congress has been exposed. It shows the country's enemies want a weak government in India, not a strong one," Modi said.

Addressing a poll rally in Anand town of central Gujarat in support of BJP candidates for Anand and Kheda Lok Sabha seats, PM Modi also took a dig at Congress over opposition leader Salman Khurshid's niece Maria Alam's call for 'vote jihad'.

"Now, the INDI alliance calls for 'vote jihad'. We have so far heard about 'love jihad' and 'land Jihad'. This (vote jihad) is said by a person who belonged to an educated Muslim family, not by someone who studied in a madrasa. I hope you all know what the meaning of jihad is. This is an insult to democracy and not a single Congress leader has condemned it," he said.

He alleged that the Congress wants to change the country's Constitution to give reservation of Scheduled Caste, Scheduled Tribe and Other Backward Classes (OBC) communities to Muslims. The prime minister also challenged the Congress to give in writing that it will not change the Constitution to provide reservation on the basis of religion and that it will not give backdoor quota to Muslims in states where it and its allies are in power. India is being seen as a peacemaker in the world today," he said, adding that it was his guarantee that he would work 24x7 to make India a developed country by 2047.

Modi said in the last 10 years, his government provided tap water connections to 14 crore houses, while the Congress-led dispensations gave it to just 3 crore houses in 60 years of its rule. PTI

Pakistan crying because Congress dying: Modi

Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Thursday dubbed the Congress party a disciple of Pakistan, and said the neighbouring country was eager to make the 'shehzada' of the grand old party the next prime minister of India. His comments came amid

news.rediff.com

From the other thread, we can see quite clearly here that Modi is still blasting Indian voter base with stories about Pakistan and ill-chosen words which insult his own Muslim constituents.

 

[globetrotter]

From the other thread, we can see quite clearly here that Modi is still blasting Indian voter base with stories about Pakistan and ill-chosen words which insult his own Muslim constituents.

No wonder u still criticised Modiji evenif congress’s agenda is in Pakistan’s favour

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

From the other thread, we can see quite clearly here that Modi is still blasting Indian voter base with stories about Pakistan and ill-chosen words which insult his own Muslim constituents.

@Rajdeep Didn't you say that India has moved on from Pakistan and Modi is not obsessed with Pakistan?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

No wonder u still criticised Modiji evenif congress’s agenda is in Pakistan’s favour

Which agenda of Congress is in Pakistan's favour? Please tell.

And why do andhbhakhts see anything against BJP as Pro Pakistan? It seems they have been brainwashed completely by BJP. Poor souls.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

No wonder u still criticised Modiji evenif congress’s agenda is in Pakistan’s favour

Congress or Modi should be doing what is good for India, I don't understand what Pakistan has got to do with it. Is Pakistan such a big player on world stage that Modi needs to waste so much breath on it?

All it proves is that either Modi doesn't have enough domestic triumphs to celebrate, or he thinks Indians are too dumb to understand it so better just to pick a bogey man and go with that.

 

[Rajdeep]

@Rajdeep Didn't you say that India has moved on from Pakistan and Modi is not obsessed with Pakistan?

India's only issue with Pakistan was Kashmir & terrorism.

Modi has forever taken the autonomy of Kashmir by removing article 370 on 5th Aug 2019 and no terrorist dare to enter India anymore after the Balakot airstrikes. So India has no reason to bother about Pakistan anymore and our new enemy is China.

However, Congress and Pakistan is obsessed with each other. When Congress won in Karnataka state elections, their supporters chanted Pakistan Zindabaad. Remember you embarrassingly tried to defend it by saying they were chanting 'Asif Sait Zindabaad'? However, a year later same chants were raised again after couple of congress members won Rajya Sabha elections. Even Congress couldnt defend it anymore and Siddaramaiah arrested those guys.

Mani Shankar Iyer goes to Pakistan, sit in the tv studio, share the podium with Hafeez Saeed and says 'Inko hataye aur hame laaye power me'

Now, ex Pakistani minister from PTI has shared Rahul Gandhi's video supporting him. Wow so much turu love.

So if you give so much ammunition to fire, an ace politician like Modi will obviously use it in the election rally for votes. Not sure why are we getting surprised.

That doesn't mean India under BJP is obsessed with Pakistan. Once the elections are over, status quo will return...unless of course Congress & that clown prince comes back to power. Congress even promised to give back the state autonomy to Kashmir. So yes if Congress is back to power, it will be field day for you when every Indian will sing 'Dil Dil Pakistan' but not under Modi's Bharat.

 

[Red-Indian]

Congress or Modi should be doing what is good for India, I don't understand what Pakistan has got to do with it. Is Pakistan such a big player on world stage that Modi needs to waste so much breath on it?

All it proves is that either Modi doesn't have enough domestic triumphs to celebrate, or he thinks Indians are too dumb to understand it so better just to pick a bogey man and go with that.

Good point. I doubt the Congress or other opposition parties have mentioned Pakistan a single time in their campaigns. It's not relevant in their approach or appeal to the voters.

Modi can't go a day without mentioning Pakistan in some speech or the other. Of course we know part of it is his fearmongering is to get votes but I'm getting the impression of late that he's genuinely obsessed with Pakistan and the connection to Indian voters. I'm not sure why he should be so nervous about this near bankrupt neighbor. Even if you take into the fact that they've been involved in terrorism in India, it's tapered down tremendously and there's hardly been an incident in the last 5 years.

Maybe it's just part of his mental makeup.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

India's only issue with Pakistan was Kashmir & terrorism.

Modi has forever taken the autonomy of Kashmir by removing article 370 on 5th Aug 2019 and no terrorist dare to enter India anymore after the Balakot airstrikes. So India has no reason to bother about Pakistan anymore and our new enemy is China.

However, Congress and Pakistan is obsessed with each other. When Congress won in Karnataka state elections, their supporters chanted Pakistan Zindabaad. Remember you embarrassingly tried to defend it by saying they were chanting 'Asif Sait Zindabaad'? However, a year later same chants were raised again after couple of congress members won Rajya Sabha elections. Even Congress couldnt defend it anymore and Siddaramaiah arrested those guys.

Mani Shankar Iyer goes to Pakistan, sit in the tv studio, share the podium with Hafeez Saeed and says 'Inko hataye aur hame laaye power me'

Now, ex Pakistani minister from PTI has shared Rahul Gandhi's video supporting him. Wow so much turu love.

So if you give so much ammunition to fire, an ace politician like Modi will obviously use it in the election rally for votes. Not sure why are we getting surprised.

That doesn't mean India under BJP is obsessed with Pakistan. Once the elections are over, status quo will return...unless of course Congress & that clown prince comes back to power. Congress even promised to give back the state autonomy to Kashmir. So yes if Congress is back to power, it will be field day for you when every Indian will sing 'Dil Dil Pakistan' but not under Modi's Bharat.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Thursday dubbed the Congress party a "disciple" of Pakistan, and said the neighbouring country was eager to make the 'shehzada' of the grand old party the next prime minister of India.

His comments came amid reports that Chaudhry Fawad Hussain, a former minister in Imran Khan's cabinet in Pakistan, shared a video featuring Congress leader Rahul Gandhi on his social media handle and praised him.

Is it so easy to get into Modi's head lol? He is surely obsessed with Pakistan. Maybe he is jealous now that Rahul Gandhi is getting support from both India and Pakistan now.

 

[Rajdeep]

Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Thursday dubbed the Congress party a "disciple" of Pakistan, and said the neighbouring country was eager to make the 'shehzada' of the grand old party the next prime minister of India.

His comments came amid reports that Chaudhry Fawad Hussain, a former minister in Imran Khan's cabinet in Pakistan, shared a video featuring Congress leader Rahul Gandhi on his social media handle and praised him.

Is it so easy to get into Modi's head lol? He is surely obsessed with Pakistan. Maybe he is jealous now that Rahul Gandhi is getting support from both India and Pakistan now.

Not sure what was the point of the bolded part as that is exactly what I wrote in my post as well. If you give ammunition to fire, Modi will not let the chance go. Majority of Indians don't like Pakistan and consider them as enemy nation (Dushman Mulk). If a former minister from that country supports a guy aspiring to become PM of India, obviously Modi will pick it up in his election rallies.

Congress would have done the same btw. Didn't Congress made the life of Modi hell just bcoz he visited Pakistan to attend Nawaz Sharif's daughter marriage? They still talk about Modi went to Pakistan uninvited to eat Biryani. So it works both ways.

Also, Pakistan has no love for Rahul Gandhi...LOL.

It is called towards hatred for Modi which you are confusing as love for Gandhi. Even if you fight election against Modi, you will get same support from Pakistan.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Not sure what was the point of the bolded part as that is exactly what I wrote in my post as well. If you give ammunition to fire, Modi will not let the chance go. Majority of Indians don't like Pakistan and consider them as enemy nation (Dushman Mulk). If a former minister from that country supports a guy aspiring to become PM of India, obviously Modi will pick it up in his election rallies.

Congress would have done the same btw. Didn't Congress made the life of Modi hell just bcoz he visited Pakistan to attend Nawaz Sharif's daughter marriage? They still talk about Modi went to Pakistan uninvited to eat Biryani. So it works both ways.

Also, Pakistan has no love for Rahul Gandhi...LOL.

It is called towards hatred for Modi which you are confusing as love for Gandhi. Even if you fight election against Modi, you will get same support from Pakistan.

This is why I asked. Is it so easy to rile up Modi? Former minister made a comment about Rahul Gandhi and Modi got offended. Why did Modi go to Pakistan few years ago? He wasn't even invited there. Can you tell?

 

[Rajdeep]

This is why I asked. Is it so easy to rile up Modi? Former minister made a comment about Rahul Gandhi and Modi got offended. Why did Modi go to Pakistan few years ago? He wasn't even invited there. Can you tell?

Why would he be riled up about it? PTI is not even ruling party in Pakistan anymore if I am not wrong.

He is intentionally using that statement to let his voters know that Dushman Mulk leaders supporting Congress party. Would you still vote for them? It is called election tactics and a tactics to polarize voters.

If it not an election time, you will not hear a word from him. How many times Imran Khan provoked him in twitter? Has he ever responded?

 

[Rajdeep]

This is why I asked. Is it so easy to rile up Modi? Former minister made a comment about Rahul Gandhi and Modi got offended. Why did Modi go to Pakistan few years ago? He wasn't even invited there. Can you tell?

That was around 2015 when Modi was relatively new in power. He was making an effort back then to form good relationship with most neighbouring countries. He went to UAE, Afghanistan, Saudi, Bangladesh, Nepal and everywhere he got very positive response. He also wanted to extend the same friendship to Pakistan and stopped in between to visit Nawaz Shariff. However, Uri happened very next year and rest is history. So Modi's heart was at right place as far as his stop over in Pakistan is concerned.

 

[globetrotter]

Congress or Modi should be doing what is good for India, I don't understand what Pakistan has got to do with it. Is Pakistan such a big player on world stage that Modi needs to waste so much breath on it?

All it proves is that either Modi doesn't have enough domestic triumphs to celebrate, or he thinks Indians are too dumb to understand it so better just to pick a bogey man and go with that.

Cmon don’t be just a blind bhakt..pak politicians openly praising Rahul Gandhi to become PM of India and ur pointing finger at Modiji…. Modiji just showing link between congress and Pakistan which is confirmed by manifesto

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Cmon don’t be just a blind bhakt..pak politicians openly praising Rahul Gandhi to become PM of India and ur pointing finger at Modiji…. Modiji just showing link between congress and Pakistan which is confirmed by manifesto

Why is a Pak politician praising an Indian one a problem for India?

 

[globetrotter]

Why is a Pak politician praising an Indian one a problem for India?

And why someone have problem for Modiji exposing links between congress and Pakistan?

 

[HalBass9]

And why someone have problem for Modiji exposing links between congress and Pakistan?

Can you please highlight those links?

Thanks

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Can you please highlight those links?

Thanks

Guys I have sorted this out for you!

 

[Technics 1210]

I wonder why the most vocal Modi apologists live outside of India and love Pakistani forums.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I wonder why the most vocal Modi apologists live outside of India and love Pakistani forums.

Time to expose links between NRIs and Pakistan now.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Again BJP members using Pakistan card for their politics
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Rahul Gandhi will win if he contests election in Pakistan, says Assam CM Himanta

Bajali: On Rahul Gandhi, Assam CM Himanta Biswa Sarma says, "Rahul Gandhi is very popular in Pakistan. If there is an election in Pakistan and Rahul Gandhi contests it, then he will win a huge margin of votes... We cannot defeat Rahul Gandhi in Pakistan... Rahul Gandhi would definitely win in Pakistan... How can that happen in India what Pakistan wants? Whatever Pakistan wants, the opposite will happen in India..."

Source: Times of India

 

[MP2011]

Again BJP members using Pakistan card for their politics
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Rahul Gandhi will win if he contests election in Pakistan, says Assam CM Himanta

Bajali: On Rahul Gandhi, Assam CM Himanta Biswa Sarma says, "Rahul Gandhi is very popular in Pakistan. If there is an election in Pakistan and Rahul Gandhi contests it, then he will win a huge margin of votes... We cannot defeat Rahul Gandhi in Pakistan... Rahul Gandhi would definitely win in Pakistan... How can that happen in India what Pakistan wants? Whatever Pakistan wants, the opposite will happen in India..."

Source: Times of India

Sarma is an A grade corrupt and communal individual.

Yet another instance of a sanghi invoking Pakistan. This has been established beyond doubt that sanghis can win elections only by raising bogey of Muslims (who are Indian citizens in case bigot sanghis forgot) and Pakistan.

 

[BouncerGuy]

BJP always plays Pakistan and Muslim card for their political benefits. If anybody has doubts about these things then I guess either he is ignorant or that guy is against Pakistan and Muslims as well.

 

[offstump]

More hate filled and racist propaganda coming from the BJP. They don’t hide it and neither do their supporters.

The 17-second clip, captioned “Beware.. Beware.. Beware..!” in Kannada, shows Rahul Gandhi and Siddaramaiah placing a large egg labelled 'Muslims' in a nest along with 'SC', 'ST' and 'OBC' eggs. After an explosion sound, a large hatchling with a skull cup and beard is shown staring at the three other hatchlings. The video then shows Gandhi feeding all the ‘funds’ to the large hatchling, which grows bigger and pushes out the other three from the nest.​

After Karnataka BJP posts video targeting Muslims, Congress files ECI complaint: ‘wantonly provoke rioting and promote enmity’

The 17-second clip, captioned “Beware.. Beware.. Beware..!” in Kannada, shows Rahul Gandhi and Siddaramaiah placing a large egg labelled 'Muslims' in a nest along with 'SC', 'ST' and 'OBC' eggs.

indianexpress.com

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

More hate filled and racist propaganda coming from the BJP. They don’t hide it and neither do their supporters.

The 17-second clip, captioned “Beware.. Beware.. Beware..!” in Kannada, shows Rahul Gandhi and Siddaramaiah placing a large egg labelled 'Muslims' in a nest along with 'SC', 'ST' and 'OBC' eggs. After an explosion sound, a large hatchling with a skull cup and beard is shown staring at the three other hatchlings. The video then shows Gandhi feeding all the ‘funds’ to the large hatchling, which grows bigger and pushes out the other three from the nest.​

After Karnataka BJP posts video targeting Muslims, Congress files ECI complaint: ‘wantonly provoke rioting and promote enmity’

The 17-second clip, captioned “Beware.. Beware.. Beware..!” in Kannada, shows Rahul Gandhi and Siddaramaiah placing a large egg labelled 'Muslims' in a nest along with 'SC', 'ST' and 'OBC' eggs.

indianexpress.com

Everyone except the so called 'desh premis' can see it.

 

[pillionrider]

Pakistan agreed to release Abhinandan without any conditions.

The same US said India was ready to nuke Pakistan. Read Mike Pompeos book.

He wanted his Officer back at all costs. He got what he wanted.

lol as if you've read his book.

Mr Pompeo said he was awakened in Hanoi to speak with an Indian "counterpart", who is unnamed.

"He believed the Pakistanis had begun to prepare their nuclear weapons for a strike. India, he informed me, was contemplating its own escalation," Mr Pompeo writes.

"I asked him to do nothing and give us a minute to sort things out."

He says he reached out to Pakistan's then army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa, with "whom I had engaged many times", and told him what the "Indians had told me".


"He said it wasn't true. As one might expect, he believed the Indians were preparing their nuclear weapons for deployment. It took us a few hours - and remarkably good work by our teams on the ground in New Delhi and Islamabad - to convince each side that the other was not preparing for nuclear war.

Now read this bit again

...remarkably good work by our teams on the ground in New Delhi and Islamabad - to convince each side that the other was not preparing for nuclear war.
lol at Modi wanting his officer back hahahaha. My god, you really have a way with words

 

[Rajdeep]

BJP always plays Pakistan and Muslim card for their political benefits. If anybody has doubts about these things then I guess either he is ignorant or that guy is against Pakistan and Muslims as well.

That is why Congress supporters chanted Pakistan Zindabaad after winning Rajya Sabha elections in Karnataka?

 

[cricketjoshila]

lol as if you've read his book.



Now read this bit again

...remarkably good work by our teams on the ground in New Delhi and Islamabad - to convince each side that the other was not preparing for nuclear war.
lol at Modi wanting his officer back hahahaha. My god, you really have a way with words

Lol. Pompeo's book is widely available. Its easy to get the relevant sections dealing with the said incident and read it.

 

[pillionrider]

Lol. Pompeo's book is widely available. Its easy to get the relevant sections dealing with the said incident and read it.

Ok great. So where does it say that Modi was going to nuke Pakistan if he didn't get his officer back

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ok great. So where does it say that Modi was going to nuke Pakistan if he didn't get his officer back

Where did i say it was from Pompeo's book?

 

[BouncerGuy]

That is why Congress supporters chanted Pakistan Zindabaad after winning Rajya Sabha elections in Karnataka?

Chanting has never worked for Congress in elections but Making a statement against Pakistan has always worked for BJP. Am I wrong here? I guess no.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Here you go. BJP using another anti-Muslim stuff for their campaign.

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India votes in third phase of national elections as Modi escalates his rhetoric against Muslims

Millions of Indian voters across 93 constituencies were casting ballots on Tuesday as Prime Minister Narendra Modi mounted an increasingly shrill election campaign, ramping up polarizing rhetoric in incendiary speeches that have targeted the Muslim minority.

In recent campaign rallies, Modi has called Muslims “infiltrators” and said they “have too many children,” referring to a Hindu nationalist trope that Muslims produce more children with the aim of outnumbering Hindus in India. He has also accused the rival Indian National Congress party of scheming to “loot” wealth from the country’s Hindus and redistribute it among Muslims, who comprise 14% of India’s more than 1.4 billion people.

Tuesday’s polling in the third round of multi-phase national elections has crucial seats up for grabs in states including Karnataka, Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh. Most polls predict a win for Modi and his Bharatiya Janata Party, which is up against a broad opposition alliance led by the Congress and powerful regional parties. The staggered election will run until June 1 and votes will be counted on June 4.

Modi, who voted in western Ahmedabad city on Tuesday, had kicked off his campaign with a focus on economic progress, promising he would make India a developed nation by 2047. But in recent weeks, he and the ruling BJP have doubled down heavily on their Hindu nationalism platform, with Modi employing some of his most divisive rhetoric in his decade in power.

Analysts say the change in tone comes as the BJP aims to clinch a supermajority or two-thirds of the 543 seats up for grabs in India’s lower Parliament by consolidating votes among the majority Hindu population, who make up 80%. They say Modi’s party is also ratcheting up polarizing speeches to distract voters from larger issues, like unemployment and economic distress, that the opposition has focused on.

While India’s economy is among the world’s fastest growing, many people face growing economic stress. The opposition alliance hopes to tap into this discontent, seeking to galvanize voters on issues like high unemployment, inflation, corruption and low agricultural prices, which have driven two years of farmers’ protests.

“The mask has dropped, and I think it is political compulsions that have made them do this,” said Ali Khan Mahmudabad, a political science professor at New Delhi’s Ashoka University.

Changes in the BJP’s campaign may also be a sign of anxiety around low voter turnout it had not anticipated, Mahmudabad said. Voter turnout in the first two phases have been slightly lower than the same rounds in the last election in 2019, according to official data.

“In recent elections, the BJP’s wins have been associated with getting the voters out (to vote),” Mahmudabad said. “There may be some fatigue, anti-incumbency or even disenchantment,” which has led the BJP to escalate their rhetoric.

Modi, in numerous speeches in recent weeks, has said women’s wealth could be at risk if Congress comes to power, claiming the party would snatch away their “mangalsutra” — a sacred gold chain that indicates a Hindu woman’s marital status — and give it to its voters, a veiled reference to Muslims. The opposition won’t stop there, he has repeatedly claimed, saying the party was conspiring to take away “your property” and “distribute it among selected people.”

Others in Modi’s party have echoed his remarks. A recent video posted by the BJP on Instagram was more direct. The animated campaign video, which has since been taken down from the social media platform, said if the Congress party comes to power, it will take money and wealth from non-Muslims and redistribute it to Muslims.

The Congress party and other political opponents have characterized Modi’s remarks as “hate speech” that could fan religious tensions. They have also filed complaints with India’s election commission, which is overseeing the polls, for breaching rules that ban candidates from appealing to “caste or communal feelings” to secure votes.

The commission can issue warnings and suspend candidates for a period of time over violations of the code of conduct, but it has issued no warnings to Modi so far.

Modi’s critics say India’s tradition of diversity and secularism has come under attack since the prime minister and his party rose to power a decade ago. While there have long been tensions between India’s majority Hindu community and Muslims, rights groups say that attacks against minorities have become more brazen under Modi.

The party denies the accusation and says its policies benefit all Indians.

Mahmudabad, the political scientist, said Modi’s party had counted on getting votes from the fervor over a Hindu temple that was built atop a razed mosque that Modi opened in January. Many saw the glitzy spectacle as the unofficial start of his election campaign.

“Instead, people are talking about inflation, unemployment and economic distress,” Mahmudabad said. “And so in order to galvanize and consolidate their vote, the BJP has raised the specter of Muslims.”

AP NEWS

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

This Prime Minister's ignorance is becoming evident. Perhaps it's time someone questioned him about his siblings.

 

[pillionrider]

Where did i say it was from Pompeo's book?

Huh?

Pakistan agreed to release Abhinandan without any conditions.

The same US said India was ready to nuke Pakistan. Read Mike Pompeos book.

He wanted his Officer back at all costs. He got what he wanted.

You said India was ready to nuke Pakistan. Your next sentence implies Modi was ready to do anything to get his officer back lol.

But that's secondary. Your main claim was that India was going to nuke Pak. And that this was mentioned as fact in Pompeo's book. The book says the Indian side were concerned that Pak might nuke them. And when the Pak side were contacted, they claimed that they were concerned India were going to nuke them.

Both sides claimed nuking the other as a response to the other's first strike.

But you claimed India was planning a first strike and cited the book as stating this.

Complete fiction.