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Does anyone find it strange that India more of an interest in Afghanistan than any of its neighbors?

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I've been seeing way too many social media posts and youtube videos about the situation in Afghanistan by Indians, like India has more of an interest than Iran, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Pakistan or Kyrgyzstan. It's odd how Afghanistan is such an important part of India's foreign policy more so than India's actual neighors, Sri Lanka and Nepal. Where does this stem from?
 
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India invested Billions in Afg, built their infrastructure, schools and helped in establishing democracy there. Of course it will be worried about Taliban coming to power. It’s 2 decades of hardwork.
 
Despite the claims of Indian posters, India is surrounded by hostile or potentially hostile neighbours so it needs to act to protect its self interests and to remain a player in the region. Nepal is relatively docile and dwarfed in comparison.

Sri Lanka has been lost already to China.

In addition, combine the increased Chinese threat with the creation of a major infrastructure project that will completely bypass India then its not an comfortable position to be in.

Afghanistan offers India a chance to agitate Pakistan on its western border and perhaps most importantly an anti Pakistan government may restrict access to other central asian republics acessing the sea from Pakistani ports.
 
India invested Billions in Afg, built their infrastructure, schools and helped in establishing democracy there. Of course it will be worried about Taliban coming to power. It’s 2 decades of hardwork.

That all seems very odd, why are they investing billions in a wartorn country that they don't neighbor nor do they share any ethnic or religious ties with Afghanistan. India could invest that money in their own country and pull people out of poverty.
 
primarily destabilise pakistans western border and secondarily gain influence in the only regional country where they didn't have to compete with china due to american presence.
 
Indian obviously considers their own immediate neighbours apart from Pakistan not worth much time or effort. Perhaps they just don't offer much in the way of resources.
 
Anyone who has no idea how geopolitics work might find it strange. It is common knowledge that countries try to create alliances with other countries that have differences with or even in the neutral category with your rival countries. What's common between China and Sri Lanka, or even a highly atheistic state like China and an Islamic republic like Pakistan apart from the fact that they share an international border. It's also why India is much closer to Japan than China.
 
That all seems very odd, why are they investing billions in a wartorn country that they don't neighbor nor do they share any ethnic or religious ties with Afghanistan. India could invest that money in their own country and pull people out of poverty.

our daughter in law, gandhari in mahbharath, comes from Afghanistan.

So is shakuni who was central figure in Mahabharat. We have relationship ties with Afghanistan from pre historic times.
 
our daughter in law, gandhari in mahbharath, comes from Afghanistan.

So is shakuni who was central figure in Mahabharat. We have relationship ties with Afghanistan from pre historic times.
This is hillarious, so Indians think they have some kind of relationship of Afghanistan based of a few stories in hindu mythology. Afghans are not Hindus, they don't acknowledge any of that folklore, there's no connections between Indians and Afghans no matter how hard Indians try to prove that they're related to Afghans.

Like the others have said on here, India's only interested in using Afghanistan as a pawn against Pakistan. Y'all are using them for strategic depth.
 
We will decide which threads need to merged etc.

Please continue with this discussion.
 
This is hillarious, so Indians think they have some kind of relationship of Afghanistan based of a few stories in hindu mythology. Afghans are not Hindus, they don't acknowledge any of that folklore, there's no connections between Indians and Afghans no matter how hard Indians try to prove that they're related to Afghans.

Like the others have said on here, India's only interested in using Afghanistan as a pawn against Pakistan. Y'all are using them for strategic depth.

countries are built upon what folklore, religion, God has stated. It's miniscule if people find attachment based upon historical connections.

You can believe what you want but that doesn't necessarily translates it into facts.
 
India invested Billions in Afg, built their infrastructure, schools and helped in establishing democracy there. Of course it will be worried about Taliban coming to power. It’s 2 decades of hardwork.

"Helped establish democracy there"? lol.

What if Taliban come into power through a democratic process by securing the majority?
 
I've been seeing way too many social media posts and youtube videos about the situation in Afghanistan by Indians, like India has more of an interest than Iran, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Pakistan or Kyrgyzstan. It's odd how Afghanistan is such an important part of India's foreign policy more so than India's actual neighors, Sri Lanka and Nepal. Where does this stem from?

Did you deflate the number of social media posts and youtube videos by the India/Pakistan population ratio? If the same percentage of the population of both countries are interested in Afghanistan, and have the same percentage social media activity, Indian posts and videos should outnumber Pakistan's by a factor of about 7.
 
our daughter in law, gandhari in mahbharath, comes from Afghanistan.

So is shakuni who was central figure in Mahabharat. We have relationship ties with Afghanistan from pre historic times.

Then why do most Indians hate the Afghan dynasties whuch ruled India and call them invaders....if India/Afg have had such 'deep brotherly relationship' since pre-historic times
 
Then why do most Indians hate the Afghan dynasties whuch ruled India and call them invaders....if India/Afg have had such 'deep brotherly relationship' since pre-historic times

If your aunts son steals from you, he's still a thief regardless of any connections.
 
As the saying goes the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so its not strange that India wants good relations with Afghanistan. And vice versa. Pure geopolitics, nothing else. And certainly has nothing to do with India's "daughter in law", apparently being from Afghanistan.
 
If your aunts son steals from you, he's still a thief regardless of any connections.

So Afghans are your cousins? lol most Afghans would laugh at this assertion. I can understand India using Afghanistan as an asset for their geopolitical games but claiming some kind of blood relation with a completely different nation is sad and funny at the same time.
 
As the saying goes the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so its not strange that India wants good relations with Afghanistan. And vice versa. Pure geopolitics, nothing else. And certainly has nothing to do with India's "daughter in law", apparently being from Afghanistan.

yeah, things are not that simple but in the end, everyone wants good relation with everyone else.
 
So Afghans are your cousins? lol most Afghans would laugh at this assertion. I can understand India using Afghanistan as an asset for their geopolitical games but claiming some kind of blood relation with a completely different nation is sad and funny at the same time.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't make any sense to you. Lots of Islamic teachings doesn't make any sense to me yet I don't have any issues Muslims following it.

It should make sense to the people who feel it. And since India is feeling it, that's all what it needs, similar as in case of Islam.
 
If your aunts son steals from you, he's still a thief regardless of any connections.

But then you don't abandon your cousins during tough times.....so why are Indians fleeing leaving behind their brothers at mercy of Taliban
 
But then you don't abandon your cousins during tough times.....so why are Indians fleeing leaving behind their brothers at mercy of Taliban

No body is perfect except God. We all are imperfections with our own flaws.
 
Then why do most Indians hate the Afghan dynasties whuch ruled India and call them invaders....if India/Afg have had such 'deep brotherly relationship' since pre-historic times

RW Indians hate them because they were Muslim. Imagine if they were Hindu/Buddhist dynasties from Afghanistan like the Hindu Shahi who invaded and settled in the subcontinent. Not only would they not care, but they would call them Indians.

On the other hand Muslims dynasties with origin from there are seen as foreigners by them even if they were in the subcontinent for centuries and mixed in with the local population.
 
Indians confused bunch here

Le Random Indian: “Afghanistan is part of Akhand bharat”

Curious observer: “then why were Afghans called invaders?”

Le random Indian: “kthxbye” :runs:
 
Because Pakistan is in the middle and Afghanistan’s hostility towards Pakistan plays in their favour. India, Afghanistan and USSR did plan to invade Pakistan and break it during the 70s. Groups such as Taliban are less likely to cooperate with India vis-a-vis Pakistan.

Anyone who tries to argue that India is there out of goodwill or historic/religious reasons is fooling themselves and everyone else. Partnerships are based out of common interests, nothing else.
 
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India’s #1 goal is to destabilize Pakistan. That has been the case for the last 70+ years. So they use Afghanistan for their proxies against Pakistan. TTP is an india creation, did numerous terrorist activities in Pakistan. The most notable Indian sponsored terrorist activity in Pakistan would be the army public school shootings. Don’t believe me, check out Mooed Yusuf’s press conference and evidence he provided to the whole world earlier this year.
 
Well doesn't India fear Pakistan? If they didn't then they wouldn't need proxies in other countries to antagonize Pakistan.

China supports insurgent groups in the north east of India.

Would you say China does so because it is "fearful" of India?
 
China supports insurgent groups in the north east of India.

Would you say China does so because it is "fearful" of India?

You don't need anti-India rhetoric to be a patriot in China. Chinese don't hate Indians the way Indians hate Pakistan.
 
You don't need anti-India rhetoric to be a patriot in China. Chinese don't hate Indians the way Indians hate Pakistan.

I thought we were discussing about state policy of countries. Now you're talking about opinions of people.
 
I thought we were discussing about state policy of countries. Now you're talking about opinions of people.

India's hate for Pakistan is present in both their government and general population, of course India fears Pakistan that explains their policies in Afghanistan.
 
India's hate for Pakistan is present in both their government and general population, of course India fears Pakistan that explains their policies in Afghanistan.


This is actually interesting.
What exactly does India (the govt and people) fear Pakistan for?
 
India is afraid of losing Kashmir. They know if Taliban controls Afghanistan fully many of the mujahedeen will take course towards Kashmir. That is at least what I have heard from prominent journalists.
 
India is afraid of losing Kashmir. They know if Taliban controls Afghanistan fully many of the mujahedeen will take course towards Kashmir. That is at least what I have heard from prominent journalists.

That will be very interesting.
India is said to have invested $3 Billion in Afghanistan - I think that imbecile Ajdit Doval had this policy crafted but how badly would it backfire if Afghani Talibans end up in Kashmir, killing Indian Soldiers?
 
India invested Billions in Afg, built their infrastructure, schools and helped in establishing democracy there. Of course it will be worried about Taliban coming to power. It’s 2 decades of hardwork.

Why did it invest in Afghanistan? Well we know why? And your badniyaati has got a good kicking.
 
India is afraid of losing Kashmir. They know if Taliban controls Afghanistan fully many of the mujahedeen will take course towards Kashmir. That is at least what I have heard from prominent journalists.

That's a factor but I also think it's cause India has never truly accepted Pakistan's existence, from the very beginning of times India's leaders have always thought Pakistan would cease to exist and merge with India - creating a Greater India is the dream of many Indian nationalists. The Indian establishment will do anything to destabilize and weaken Pakistan, they think that if it collapses then they can annex Pakistan. Another factor is that India sees itself as a regional superpower, they can't stand any opposition or the thought another country could go up against them, Pakistan is the only country in South Asia that cause any damage to India and that's one of the reasons why India hasn't been able to establish its dominance over South Asia yet.
 
Pakistan's existence. India is still hurt by the "partition".

You would have had a point if Pakistan went on to become this utopia or a benchmark for South Asian progress since the partition. India seems to get along fine with Bangladesh, Srilanka, Nepal etc and sure there may have been some or even a lot of issues but then again what neighboring countries don’t. However there always seem to be harmony. Infact despite a war and recent problems, India and China have had a mutual trade partnership and a very flourishing one too. So if only Pakistan sticks out then may be some self-introspection is required. It can’t be that India is the only one always causing trouble. Can it?
 
That's a factor but I also think it's cause India has never truly accepted Pakistan's existence, from the very beginning of times India's leaders have always thought Pakistan would cease to exist and merge with India - creating a Greater India is the dream of many Indian nationalists. The Indian establishment will do anything to destabilize and weaken Pakistan, they think that if it collapses then they can annex Pakistan. Another factor is that India sees itself as a regional superpower, they can't stand any opposition or the thought another country could go up against them, Pakistan is the only country in South Asia that cause any damage to India and that's one of the reasons why India hasn't been able to establish its dominance over South Asia yet.

This is more Pakistani paranoia than anything else. Maybe it is the narrative that the Pakistani military establishment wants you to believe to ensure its popularity and power they enjoy in Pakistan - that India never really accepted Pakistan's existence and is constantly looking for an opportunity to invade and annex Pakistan into its own territory.

Annexing Pakistan, laughable as it sounds, into Indian territory will cause a lot more problems for India in terms of civil strife, religious riots, fundamentalism and extremism on both sides and it will essentially be a throwback to the good, sorry, bad old days of the partition. India has already a lot of problems like poverty, overpopulation, income inequality, illiteracy etc., to deal with on its own and has only made improvements in the recent decades. Religious strife, civil war and extremism would put the years of development, whatever it did so far, to waste. If India wanted to annex Pakistan so badly, how many wars did it start to initiate that process. Or why did it not annex East Pakistan after it was liberated. Or simply use common sense - if the Indian political class hate muslims so much, why would they deliberately choose to annex an almost entirely muslim country to its population, thereby raising the muslim population in the country?
 
Lol. So India wants to annexe Pakistan now.
let me guess, this ultra secret Indian policy is now let into open? perhaps in Social Media?
 
India is showing interest in Afghanistan because they do not have a good relationship with the Taliban. During the peace talks with the Taliban, most countries like Pakistan, China, Russia etc. at least interacted with the Taliban in hopes for a peaceful end to the solution. India was investing in Afghanistan, but also supplying weapons to the current Afghanistan Government to fight back against the Taliban as the group made their hostile intentions clear.

It will be worrying for India if the Taliban take control of Afghanistan because they are likely to remember that India was not friendly towards them. The worst thing for India will be if the Taliban have a bone to pick with them, that's when things won't end well. India is now trying to get on the good side of the Taliban, and though that might seem good, it is not. A bloodthirsty group like the Taliban has already made it clear that their goal is world domination, and they want governments all around the world to have the same mindset as them.

If the Taliban take over Afghanistan, it gives them free space to conduct whatever activities they choose, and that will not end well.

Pakistan, India, and the rest of the Asian subcontinent along with the rest of the world will need to make sure that they don't provoke the Taliban.
 
This is more Pakistani paranoia than anything else. Maybe it is the narrative that the Pakistani military establishment wants you to believe to ensure its popularity and power they enjoy in Pakistan - that India never really accepted Pakistan's existence and is constantly looking for an opportunity to invade and annex Pakistan into its own territory.

Annexing Pakistan, laughable as it sounds, into Indian territory will cause a lot more problems for India in terms of civil strife, religious riots, fundamentalism and extremism on both sides and it will essentially be a throwback to the good, sorry, bad old days of the partition. India has already a lot of problems like poverty, overpopulation, income inequality, illiteracy etc., to deal with on its own and has only made improvements in the recent decades. Religious strife, civil war and extremism would put the years of development, whatever it did so far, to waste. If India wanted to annex Pakistan so badly, how many wars did it start to initiate that process. Or why did it not annex East Pakistan after it was liberated. Or simply use common sense - if the Indian political class hate muslims so much, why would they deliberately choose to annex an almost entirely muslim country to its population, thereby raising the muslim population in the country?

You say this but history says otherwise.

In the headquarters of RSS (which really runs the strings of your government); there is a map of India which includes both Pakistan and Bangladesh as part of it… and it’s not like there isn’t instances of many Indians ruing partition
 
Lol. So India wants to annexe Pakistan now.
let me guess, this ultra secret Indian policy is now let into open? perhaps in Social Media?

It’s not really a secret when the Indian map in RSS headquarters in Nagpur includes Pakistan. And we all know how intertwined RSS is with the current Indian government.
 
You say this but history says otherwise.

In the headquarters of RSS (which really runs the strings of your government); there is a map of India which includes both Pakistan and Bangladesh as part of it…

Quote me when Indian army starts a war trying to annex Pakistan. Until then, everything else is simply for political consumption. Since independence, between India and Pakistan, only one country has initiated a war against the other trying to annex/re annex territory. And that's not India.

and it’s not like there isn’t instances of many Indians ruing partition

I've come across even some Pakistanis who rue partition. That means nothing. India and Pakistan decided to separate and that happened for the good imo. At least, then they can blame their failures on their own than trying to find excuses by blaming each other. Now it's up to both countries to find their respective futures and destinies in their own manner/paths, no point talking about what happened in the past which isn't going to be reversed.
 
Why should it be strange?. We know India only wants to harm Pak and Chinese interests in Afghanistan. I am sure the ISI are on top of things.
 
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