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England (170/2) thrash Pakistan (169/6) by 8 wickets in the 6th T20I in Lahore

your premier hitter is making a run a ball 9 even when he had all the time in the world

nawaz in place of shadab

aamer who has a sr of 170+ is not even being sent in to bat

but top order is the problem

Not one T20 50 in what is 42 innings says it all...only Pakistan persists with players like these because we have no real substitues
 
If it was a 6 match Series Eng should be handed the trophy they were unlucky in games lost
 
your premier hitter is making a run a ball 9 even when he had all the time in the world

nawaz in place of shadab

aamer who has a sr of 170+ is not even being sent in to bat

but top order is the problem

Today was an ideal opportunity to try/train Aamer. Clearly, Saqlain wasn't thinking. :sarf_facepalm
 
Thought we were going to score 200 plus today as Riz was not playing? Vaat happens???
 
On big Australian grounds, I expect Indian spinners to do well (at least not as bad as they did elsewhere :-) ). In batting, KL Rahul is our weak link currently. If he and one of the pacers step up, India can do well in the tournament. Also, I believe in Rohit's tactical captaincy.

If Australia plays someone else in the place of Steve Smith, that team is super strong. South Africa also has a good team, but they somehow mess up in ICC tournaments. Let us hope they play their best this time.

Tactical Rohit screwed Asia cup with his stupid bowling rotation and keep throwing death overs to Bhuvi.

Which spinners you talking about? Ashwin and chahal? both are useless.
 
Pak has played with backup bowling throughout this series and Eng couldnt really dominate until Salt clicking today

I was surprised not to see Hasnain in this line up. He is at least a wicket taking bowler. Has raw pace,may go for runs but he has more chance of taking wickets than Dahani at least.

Rauf ,Newaz ,Shadab all are front line bowlers. Nasim and Afridi are to take other 2 pace bowling slots once they are fit.

So, yes you are right partially that those 2 spots are taken by back up bowlers .
 
That's how you play T20s.
It's okay, Pakistan will come around to the reality that the philosophy and personnel need an overhaul, but only after doing badly in the World Cup and another full year after that of the same misery. Because that's how we are.

At least fans cheerleaders will also come to reality about how the modern cricket works these days.
 
Aqib Javed was right

It makes no difference for however long Babar or Rizwan occupy the crease
 
Looks like England’s strategy is to finish this before Moeen Ali gets to bat :)
Moeen played in typical Pak style in the last game which is why they lost the game that they should have won. If you have watched the game he started really really slow.
 
What a poor team we are!

Misbah laid the seeds to our destruction
 
Had Moeen Ali not been playing, England would have won this series by now.
 
Chalo early finish to enjoy rest of weekend before Sunday
 
Pakistan have not tried any hitters in the places where it matters most!

A good powerplay and look, it’s game over. The powerplay is key, we don’t seem to understand that for the team. We understand that for our favourites only!

Sharjeel
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan
Iftikhar

There, I’ve added your favourites and I’ve given you a chance to compete too.

I am 100% aligned on the strategy but who are the personnel for it? Maybe they can throw in Asif Ali? or maybe they can give Haris or Haider more games to see if they come through.

It is a myth that Sharjeel/Fakhar play at high SR in PP and this has been debunked by several posters. Don't get me wrong, I love Sharjeel/Fakhar as batsmen but if you looked purely at the stats, Fakhar/Sharjeel both too accelerate AFTER the powerplay and their SR in the PP is also in the 120s.
Can someone please pull the stats and share here again?
 
Moeen played in typical Pak style in the last game which is why they lost the game that they should have won. If you have watched the game he started really really slow.

He played 2 poor knocks from what I saw but most were not live and only highlights
 
Will pak batsmen finally realise you can’t bat like snails in T20?
 
As I have said many times, Pakistan can only beat teams like India, Australia and England if the said sides underperform.

If they bring their A game, Pakistan stands no chance. This is why almost always lose a bilateral series to them. Over the course of a series, their superior talent, skill and mentality always shines through.

This series would have been a walk in the park for England had they played their best players irrespective of whether Pakistan played their best team or not.
 
[MENTION=491]IMMY69[/MENTION] where are you

Aap bhi aaj kal bohot bhangre daal rahe the
 
And therein lies the problem, Baz just saying in commentary Pak thought they have got enough.

Do not think just do!
 
Imagine Buttler, Bairstow, in form Roy, Stokes and Livingstone playing here.
 
As I have said many times, Pakistan can only beat teams like India, Australia and England if the said sides underperform.

If they bring their A game, Pakistan stands no chance. This is why almost always lose a bilateral series to them. Over the course of a series, their superior talent, skill and mentality always shines through.

This series would have been a walk in the park for England had they played their best players irrespective of whether Pakistan played their best team or not.

Self fellatio is a good kink.
 
What a poor team we are!

Misbah laid the seeds to our destruction

Misbah is neither coach nor selector now.

What is barring others to take Pakistan forward?

I m answering - sheer lack of talent. Pakistan isn't producing top quality batters to compete at international level now. You can't win with Khushdil,Haider , Iftekhar,Asif .
 
Series scoreline should have been 5-1.. that would have represented true state of our team. Last two matches England team bottled the easy chases.. over the course of 6 matches , we have batted first 4 times .. and our approach towards the game has seen no change despite the consistent failures.. imagine the stubbornness of the coaches, Management and captain .. they want to stick to outdated version of Game , and see themselves fail in big matches.. yet we expect miracles every game
 
I am 100% aligned on the strategy but who are the personnel for it? Maybe they can throw in Asif Ali? or maybe they can give Haris or Haider more games to see if they come through.

It is a myth that Sharjeel/Fakhar play at high SR in PP and this has been debunked by several posters. Don't get me wrong, I love Sharjeel/Fakhar as batsmen but if you looked purely at the stats, Fakhar/Sharjeel both too accelerate AFTER the powerplay and their SR in the PP is also in the 120s.
Can someone please pull the stats and share here again?

If nobodies like Salt can do it, why cant any of our players not step up.
 
Misbah is neither coach nor selector now.

What is barring others to take Pakistan forward?

I m answering - sheer lack of talent. Pakistan isn't producing top quality batters to compete at international level now. You can't win with Khushdil,Haider , Iftekhar,Asif .

yup!
 
Imagine Buttler, Bairstow, in form Roy, Stokes and Livingstone playing here.

Yes, England is a better T20 side than Pakistan both on paper and realistically. But it's true that Pakistan missed Afridi,Rizwan ,Nasim badly today.
 
Tactical Rohit screwed Asia cup with his stupid bowling rotation and keep throwing death overs to Bhuvi.

Which spinners you talking about? Ashwin and chahal? both are useless.

Bhuvi is not a good T20 bowler, at least, not anymore. I am surprised he gets so many chances. Hope he doesn't play crucial matches.

Spinners: Axar Patel, and Chahal/Bishnoi.
 
Babar said in the Toss that they r targeting 160-170. Poor assessment I guess based on dew factor
 
3-3 is never a fluke

no matter how much certain fans will cry and make excuses

7 match series between England first XI & Pakistan first XI & I can assure you that Pak will loose 7-0. Wood played only 2 matches & Pakistan's so called best LOI batter ever looked like a 90 year old against him.
 
7 match series between England first XI & Pakistan first XI & I can assure you that Pak will loose 7-0. Wood played only 2 matches & Pakistan's so called best LOI batter ever looked like a 90 year old against him.

I agree that England will be favourite. But not 7-0 .May be 5-2 series results
 
Imagine Buttler, Bairstow, in form Roy, Stokes and Livingstone playing here.

This is where you are wrong those players would have not played well as they don’t play in psl except Roy and Livingston who is a complete hack regardless of conditions. Plus they wouldn’t play with the same intensity as they have nothing to prove to anyone. The fact that these lot performed so well is because they have no fear of failure they are gonna play out of their skin just so they can make a place for themselves in future English plans. Also your beloved india is a below average team which is a proven fact in the recently concluded Asia cup I ain’t even gonna mention them any further and in t20 cricket anyone can beat anyone there is no such thing as consistency in t20 as it is a lottery. The only team this statement would be right about is Australia as they are indeed a superior team when they play with their full strength and bring their A game out. So you can whine how much you want Pakistan will continue to put you in your place whenever you think you can come on here and post your trolling statements backed up with zero facts.
 
Rizwan
Fakhar (can turn his arm too)
Babar
Haider (persist)
Saim Ayub (we have an opening here)
Haris (deserves more chances, inventive too)
Ifthikar (smart bowler can hit)
Shadab (should be skip imo)
Shaheen (If genuinely fit)
Rauf
Naseem

Nawaz Hasnain Dahani Waseem Asif Shan are the bench.

Not commented on enough - our fielding has been messy, also some of our players still don’t look in the sort of minimum shape that is expected from LOI players.
 
Do you have some kind of a dew recorder?��

It wasn't this batting beauty when we were batting.

Just one of those days.

There is a difference in just "Watching" the game and "understanding" it, can't blame you for not comprehending but the shot keeper haris played for six or many of the drive, cuts baber played were a clear evidence of that.

The wicket was not changed mid innings, as far as last match is concerned go and watch the highlight and then talk
 
Just to bring some perspective, and this does not offset our middle order problems, but England's approach of smashing from ball one doesn't always work either.... Only worked 50 percent of the time this series....
 
The trolls are out in force. Same guys who disappear at the first sign of Pak victory.
Hope we win toss next game and win series
 
As I have said many times, Pakistan can only beat teams like India, Australia and England if the said sides underperform.

If they bring their A game, Pakistan stands no chance. This is why almost always lose a bilateral series to them. Over the course of a series, their superior talent, skill and mentality always shines through.

This series would have been a walk in the park for England had they played their best players irrespective of whether Pakistan played their best team or not.

This sounds like a grandmother's naseehat.
 
I am pretty disappointed to see the huge huge gap between the quality of English new batters and that of Pakistan.

It is hard to believe that Anwar,Inji,Selim Malik, Miandad, Ijaj Ahmed,Amir Sohail once played in the same playing 11.

How things change!!
 
Thankfully I missed the carnage.

At least Sunday won't be a dead rubber.
 
There is a difference in just "Watching" the game and "understanding" it, can't blame you for not comprehending but the shot keeper haris played for six or many of the drive, cuts baber played were a clear evidence of that.

The wicket was not changed mid innings, as far as last match is concerned go and watch the highlight and then talk

Lool enjoy your understanding of game professor.

Pitch doesn't change professor, dew comes on lol

I don't need to watch highlights professor I watch full games.
 
I am pretty disappointed to see the huge huge gap between the quality of English new batters and that of Pakistan.

It is hard to believe that Anwar,Inji,Selim Malik, Miandad, Ijaj Ahmed,Amir Sohail once played in the same playing 11.

How things change!!

These guys did not play modern T20 Cricket. Some of these players had pretty mediocre stats for their era and would look equally bad against modern T20 batsmen as well.
 
Forgot this was on. Well done Salty! The series is set up beautifully.
 
Babar post game comments:

Babar Azam "our middle-order needs to step up. We keep saying we should show some responsibility. As a team you need to build partnerships when back-to-back wickets have fallen and when the pressure is on"

Moeen Ali:

Moeen Ali "Hopefully it will be another good game on Sunday. It's 3-3 which is great for the series. It's been a brilliant series so far. We are hoping for an exciting last game in the series"
 
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These guys did not play modern T20 Cricket. Some of these players had pretty mediocre stats for their era and would look equally bad against modern T20 batsmen as well.

Agree. The overall batting standards in limited overs games have evolved a lot and will keep getting evolved further. England Australia will keep pushing bar higher.
 
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Babar post game comments:

Babar Azam "our middle-order needs to step up. We keep saying we should show some responsibility. As a team you need to build partnerships when back-to-back wickets have fallen and when the pressure is on"

Bat at no.3 Babar

Show them how it’s done
 
These guys did not play modern T20 Cricket. Some of these players had pretty mediocre stats for their era and would look equally bad against modern T20 batsmen as well.

They were match winners in their era. That's all. Each of these batsmen I mentioned won quiet a few matches for Pakistan by putting up individual brilliant performance with the bat . I don't think that other than Babar and Rizwan any other batters in this squad can win even 1 match for Pakistan without some contribution from.either Babar or Rizwan. No comparison.
 
These guys did not play modern T20 Cricket. Some of these players had pretty mediocre stats for their era and would look equally bad against modern T20 batsmen as well.

Moreover if they had the opportunity to play T20 each of them would have been a magnificent T20 player,I can bet. They were all stroke makers sufficient for that era of quality fast bowling on sporting wickets
 
[MENTION=491]IMMY69[/MENTION] where are you

Aap bhi aaj kal bohot bhangre daal rahe the

I'm here.
Was stuck at work but caught a lot of the game on my App.

A game of two halves.

We're overly reliant on Babar/Rizwan for the batting and are desperately missing an in form Fakhar.

The wicket was definitely sticky in the first innings and by the time England batted it was an absolute belter.
Felt sorry for our inexperienced pacers. This will be a learning curve for them but in those conditions not team would have defended even 190-200 let alone 170.

So my view remains unchanged.
 
As I have said many times, Pakistan can only beat teams like India, Australia and England if the said sides underperform.

If they bring their A game, Pakistan stands no chance. This is why almost always lose a bilateral series to them. Over the course of a series, their superior talent, skill and mentality always shines through.

This series would have been a walk in the park for England had they played their best players irrespective of whether Pakistan played their best team or not.

they can keep the bilaterals and have 'off days' during tourneys will gladly take it 👍
 
also really happy with todays result.
Sets it up nicely for Sunday
 
Just to bring some perspective, and this does not offset our middle order problems, but England's approach of smashing from ball one doesn't always work either.... Only worked 50 percent of the time this series....

Working or not is different thing but at least having players of that capability is the first thing.
 
they can keep the bilaterals and have 'off days' during tourneys will gladly take it 👍

Wade and Stoinis reminds us how 70 could be chased in 6 overs despite losing 5 wickets with power hitting. They didn't have an off day. It's the future. Pakistan will eventually have to shift their mindset but as always we are late. Look at SL approach. Even they are far ahead of us in T20s.
 
On the other hand Pakistan had all the wickets in hand in the Asia cup final yet they couldn't chase mere 170 runs due to lack of ability or pathetic mindset of setting up agressive batting in last overs.
 
Working or not is different thing but at least having players of that capability is the first thing.

Agree with this... Players like Asif, Haider, Happy Heart, Chacha, Shaan, etc. couldn't play an innings like Salt today, even if they got the same run of matches that he had...
 
If nobodies like Salt can do it, why cant any of our players not step up.

Well, if Viv Richards can do what he did, then why can’t rest do it?

It’s not just about Jazba/intent. You need to have the right skill development from grass root development.
 
Hi I
As I have said many times, Pakistan can only beat teams like India, Australia and England if the said sides underperform.

If they bring their A game, Pakistan stands no chance. This is why almost always lose a bilateral series to them. Over the course of a series, their superior talent, skill and mentality always shines through.

This series would have been a walk in the park for England had they played their best players irrespective of whether Pakistan played their best team or not.

But no one is stopping Eng from bringing their A game
 
I’ll explain…

Pakistan for the past 2 years or so have been playing cricket in their own stubborn way. The fluke wins here and there have deluded them into believing their way is a perfect way of playing T20

You should have listened to Amir Sohail speaking to Butcher today. He was asking him if England would consider playing the powerplay the way Babar and Rizwan do….that’s pure pure arrogance!

We have become so comfortable in our lethargic approach, and we rightly cannot break those shackles! The fans here were going nuts at Harris trying to make things happen!

We deserve this humiliation. It’s true. It’s damn true.

Subcontinent teams barring Sri Lanka haven't found the secret of T20s yet. Look at this guy Salt. He was a flop for so many games and today he smoked it. Similar to Aussie rookie that smoked Indians in the recent series opening the batting. There is no need for a freaking anchor in T20s. What you need is a set of dashers that will go big or home. You win more often than not that way.
 
Phil Salt blasted 87 not out from 41 balls as England brushed off their recent batting failings by cruising to a target of 170 in the sixth T20 international against Pakistan and making Sunday's final fixture a series decider.

England had allowed a 2-1 lead in the series turn into a 3-2 deficit after two bungled run chases in games four and five, but were brutal batting second on Friday night, with Salt the spearhead as they cantered home with 33 balls to spare to win by eight wickets and level proceedings at 3-3.

Salt, who rushed to his half-century from just 19 balls, bludgeoned 55 from 23 deliveries with opening partner Alex Hales (27 off 12), the fifty stand coming up after just three overs as Mohammad Nawaz, Shahnawaz Dahani and Mohammad Wasim were pummelled for a combined 10 boundaries.

Salt continued to pepper the fence after Hales was caught off Shadab Khan in the fourth over, with his pulsating innings containing 13 fours and three sixes and perhaps even pushing him ahead of Hales in the battle to open with white-ball skipper Jos Buttler at next month's T20 World Cup.

The Lancashire opener pulverised Pakistan, dominating a second-wicket stand of 76 from just 34 balls with Dawid Malan (26 off 18) as he rebounded from single-figure dismissals in his previous three innings.

Salt clinched England's victory in the company of Ben Duckett (26no off 16) - Malan having been pinned lbw by a delivery from Shadab that shot along the ground - as the tourists made mincemeat of Pakistan's 169-6 and rendered home skipper Babar Azam's supreme 87 from 59 balls in vain.

Babar played quite beautifully after Pakistan were inserted by Moeen Ali, becoming the joint-fastest player, alongside India's Virat Kohli, to reach 3,000 T20 international runs, doing so in his 81st innings.

Babar reached the landmark with a sublime straight six off Richard Gleeson, one of three maximums he managed to go with seven fours in his 27th T20I international half-century - although the gloss of that achievement would have been taken off by his team's heavy defeat.

Babar would have been run out for 24 in the sixth over had Sam Curran's shy at the non-striker's stumps been on target - a rare blemish for Curran on the evening as he proved the pick of the England attack with figures of 2-26 from his four overs and an economy rate of 6.50.

Curran accounted for Haider Ali (18 off 14) and Iftikhar Ahmed (31 off 21) with cutters after the batters had shared stands of 47 and 48 respectively with skipper Babar.

Both Haider and Iftikhar creamed Adil Rashid (0-38) for sixes as the England leg-spinner went at 9.50 an over - right-arm quick Gleeson (1-39) also leaked runs, going at 9.75 from his four.

Gleeson did dismiss debutant Mohammad Haris for a skittish seven from eight balls during a slow start for Pakistan - Haris nailing one six but also hacking at deliveries after coming into the hosts' side at the top of the order in place of the rested Mohammad Rizwan.

Pakistan were 15-2 in the fourth over when David Willey (2-32) pinned Shan Masood lbw for a two-ball duck but Babar led the response with a tremendous unbeaten knock, with included a gorgeous six over extra-cover off a Willey full toss in the 17th over.

Pakistan mustered just 15 runs from the next 16 balls after that Babar six, during which time Willey had Asif Ali (9) pouched on the point boundary and Reece Topley (1-31) bowled a five-run 18th over.

However, Topley was then taken for 19 from the final over as Babar and Mohammad Nawaz (12 off seven) hit two sixes and a four between them - Topley looking far from jubilant after having Nawaz caught at long-off off from the final ball of the innings.

Topley and England were jubilant come full time, though, as Salt's swashbuckling innings ensured a winner-takes-all showdown at Gaddafi Stadium on Sunday night.

What they said

Player of the match Phil Salt said post-match...

"Definitely [my best T20I knock]. It was nice to do it with the series in the balance. Very happy with the knock.

"It's always a challenge at the top of the order when you feel you're playing well but picking out fielders and finding ways to get out.

"I'm very grateful for the backing I've got from my team-mates and the management. It's very clear the way they want me to play.

"You need competition, the best sides in the world have that. You can't get away from that, and that's the same in every sport.

"Everyone's trying to put their best foot forward and show the coaches how good they are."


England skipper Moeen Ali said post-match...

"I'm very happy. I thought the way we batted in particular was outstanding. We almost killed the game off straight away.

"It shows if you stick to the process, you don't have to slog, you can play proper shots.

"It was a great start with the bat, but I actually thought the seamers were outstanding today.

"If you don't lose wickets early on, you can keep going, but tonight was really impressive.

"We had a good base, good shots, and that was a really impressive performance tonight from everybody.

"[I'm expecting] another good game hopefully [in the decider]. It's great for the series that it's 3-3, and it's been a brilliant series so far.

"We feel we've learned a lot about each other as a group players. We're looking for an exciting last game.

"He's [Buttler] feeling good, been training a bit more. Whether or not we risk him for one game, we'll see. I doubt it."


Sky Sports Cricket's Michael Atherton said...

"He [Salt] played brilliantly and because of it there was kind of an absence of tension there in that second half of the game.

"Throughout this series, we've seen very close matches, swinging this way and that and full of tension, but none of that tonight just because of how well Phil Salt played.

"He played absolutely brilliantly. Alex Hales helped him give England a rapid start and the game was done, really, after that opening power play.

"But very nice to see Phil Salt go on unbeaten and finish the game off for his best innings in England colours."

SKY
 
Lool enjoy your understanding of game professor.

Pitch doesn't change professor, dew comes on lol

I don't need to watch highlights professor I watch full games.

You don't know what are you talking about, happens. Professor is nice but would be petty famished
if you call me "Dean" always wanted to be one.

1. Are you saying that inspite of watching the entire game i.e 5th T20 you didn't notice "DEW"
the "Towels" super sopper with rope doing the rounds etc might be that your "Satellite" was
at a slightly different angle and you might have enjoyed Surya batting

2. The pitch in the last game was very slow, Header interview of Ifti along with Shadab who was
saying the ball was gripping

3. Today pitch was very different easier to bat obviously "Kuptaaan" saheb plays with only one template
and in that template 1st inning score is always 160

So, Dew as the factor in both the matches, but this surface was a petty good one, Even Pakistan scored 170 odd other team chased it down in 15 overs flat, shadab a spinner was the most effective bowler in this dew

You are not the only one having a bad day, go home get some sleep pay regards to your teachers mate
 
Utter destruction from England. Without Rauf and Shaheen, the rest are just cannon fodder. Just not good enough against attacking batsmen.
The mood in which England batsmen were in, even if Rauf played, the match would have been still onesided.

Pakistan did miss Rizwan today very much. He is the heart of Pak batting lineup.
 
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