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England [224/2] beat Australia [223] by 8 wickets to reach the final of the 2019 World Cup

If England win the world cup it will be one of the most humiliating world cup wins of all time by the expat XI. They changed the rules to fast track Archer into the side, selected players like Moeen Ali, Adil Rasheed and God knows who. They are even lead by an Irish man. England deserve this humiliation and people should point fingers at them. Is it really the nation of Englishmen who will win the world cup (if they win it)? Might as well call it world XI.
 
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ManFan said:
Game ain’t over yet.

Even if England get revenge on a team that’s been haunting them for 30 years, they still have to win the Final.

Only then will they be able to dispel the tag of chokers and I will be among the first to state, “I was wrong. England have turned a corner”.

But that hasn’t happened yet...
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Lol NZ arent exactly cool under pressure. Chokers England have won a ICC tournament. If you count the 2000 CT as a trophy they have the same amount.

It's hypocritical to call England chokers and completely ignore NZ losing semis and finals.
 
Mamoon said:
Looks like “ruthless” and the “big game mentality” Australians have been pasted by the “mental midgets” and “choking” Poms.

This is a phenomenal English side that is also mentally ready for a fight. They way the they beat India and New Zealand in must win games today dispelled the myth that they are soft.

As I said, I will have the last laugh as usual. :moyo2
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After beating India and New Zealand in consecutive must-win games and now on track to beat Australia in semi-final despite chasing, England has earned the right to win the world cup.
 
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I am really happy that we will have a new world cup winner eventually (Kudos to both NZ & England)

At least the Indian match was not completely one-sided! Surprised to see Australian team regressed like this, they were always lethal in WC knockouts! (Anyhow not over yet, let's see!)
 
Hasan123 said:
Lol NZ arent exactly cool under pressure. Chokers England have won a ICC tournament. If you count the 2000 CT as a trophy they have the same amount.

It's hypocritical to call England chokers and completely ignore NZ losing semis and finals.
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Champions Trophy is not same as WC. Even South Africa won 1998 CT.
 
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RamLakhan said:
I am really happy that we will have a new world cup winner eventually (Kudos to both NZ & England)

At least the Indian match was not completely one-sided! Surprised to see Australian team regressed like this, they were always lethal in WC knockouts! (Anyhow not over yet, let's see!)
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Australia's batting has regressed massively. Their bowling is still lethal. Can't do much when target is puny 223. This isn't 90s, any score under 250 is a cakewalk for most teams, especially England who has by far the best batting lineup.
 
Is it me or Steven Smith and Dhoni's run out were almost identical in the semis.

Same distance from the crease and also direct hit.
 
Madplayer said:
If England win the world cup it will be one of the most humiliating world cup wins of all time by the expat XI. They changed the rules to fast track Archer into the side, selected players like Moeen Ali, Adil Rasheed and God knows who. They are even lead by an Irish man. England deserve this humiliation and people should point fingers at them. Is it really the nation of Englishmen who will win the world cup (if they win it)? Might as well call it world XI.
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Moeen and Rashid were born and raised in England. They also did not contribute that much to England wins this wc.

Morgan has been in bad form this wc as well and I think k there are plenty of replacements for him.

Archer is the talent england stole. They are really lucky to be able to buy him
 
If you know you bat deep (From No.1 to No.7+ if all are good), then you can play that much more confidently! Lesson to some teams who left huge loopholes to be covered/patched with so-called outrageous players! You need 11 equally quality players (no matter if they are not absolutely great), its a team game!
 
After this the Ashes is going to have an extra edge on it
 
Hasan123 said:
Lol NZ arent exactly cool under pressure. Chokers England have won a ICC tournament. If you count the 2000 CT as a trophy they have the same amount.

It's hypocritical to call England chokers and completely ignore NZ losing semis and finals.
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But NZ aren’t favorites.

A choker is someone who is heavily favored to win and does not so due to being unable to handle the pressure.

NZ have NEVER been favorites in any of the Finals or Semi-Finals they have been in.

In 1992, they were favorites but Pakistan had already proven they could beat them in the Group Stages.

Not to mention, England has bottled with home advantage too many times!
 
Pitch isnt that bad, aus batted badly. If they waited out the first 10 score couldve been around 300
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Australia's batting has regressed massively. Their bowling is still lethal. Can't do much when target is puny 223. This isn't 90s, any score under 250 is a cakewalk for most teams, especially England who has by far the best batting lineup.
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I know that, but I was expecting the traditional Aussie fighting spirit to show up in Semis & Finals! Usually opposition choke against them! I understood that this time they lacked a lot of abilities!
 
Madplayer said:
If England win the world cup it will be one of the most humiliating world cup wins of all time by the expat XI. They changed the rules to fast track Archer into the side, selected players like Moeen Ali, Adil Rasheed and God knows who. They are even lead by an Irish man. England deserve this humiliation and people should point fingers at them. Is it really the nation of Englishmen who will win the world cup (if they win it)? Might as well call it world XI.
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Meh, Rashid is as much a Yorkshire lad as Root or Bairstow while Moeen's the quintessential Brummy man.

Everyone's an immigrant in one way or another in this world, Archer's put the hard yards in moving to a new country and meeting the qualification requirement. Don't knock the UK for being an attractive place to live and work.
 
Wow England Wow...Roaring their way into the final here. The way they played for the last 4 years, they deserve to win the cup. Where's that man Strauss...absolute legend. To identify talent, sticking with them and trusting their band of cricket. Just amazing
 
ManFan said:
But NZ aren’t favorites.

A choker is someone who is heavily favored to win and does not so due to being unable to handle the pressure.

NZ have NEVER been favorites in any of the Finals or Semi-Finals they have been in.

In 1992, they were favorites but Pakistan had already proven they could beat them in the Group Stages.

Not to mention, England has bottled with home advantage too many times!
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So what if they aren't favourites .

How many times have England been favourites for ICC events ? Most of the time their team hasn't even been good enough to win it.

In 92 when they lost it was due to unbelievable bowling . Nothing to do with choking. From 96-2015 they just weren't good enough. The year they have the players they are in the final and should win it if they turn up.
 
Roy is a beast. The new Sehwag.

He always has the mental edge no matter which bowler he is facing. He will prove people wrong in Tests too. Needs to play ahead of Jennings in the Ashes.
 
It looks like it is raining.

If game gets rained out, Australia is through.

5 more overs and we have a game.
 
RamLakhan said:
I know that, but I was expecting the traditional Aussie fighting spirit to show up in Semis & Finals! Usually opposition choke against them! I understood that this time they lacked a lot of abilities!
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Australia had those spirit when the had the talent. Their talent has dried up. The spirit is still there, they were excellent in group stages. But spirit can only take you so far, law of average catches up eventually.
 
sweep_shot said:
It is drizzling possibly.

If game gets rained out, Australia is through. LOL.

5 more overs and we have a game.
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Play will resume tomorrow so that Australia’s misery is complete. The three lions have ravaged the kangaroos from limb to limb.
 
RamLakhan said:
If you know you bat deep (From No.1 to No.7+ if all are good), then you can play that much more confidently! Lesson to some teams who left huge loopholes to be covered/patched with so-called outrageous players! You need 11 equally quality players (no matter if they are not absolutely great), its a team game!
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Well said. Template has been set. The pitches for SF have been a revelation. Need proper cricketers to push through. Batsmen, bowlers and genuine all rounders.
 
Mamoon said:
Roy is a beast. The new Sehwag.

He always has the mental edge no matter which bowler he is facing. He will prove people wrong in Tests too. Needs to play ahead of Jennings in the Ashes.
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Sehwag never fulfilled his potential in ODIs. Roy is the most destructive opener in the world, and can be all time as well.
 
Hasan123 said:
So what if they aren't favourites .

How many times have England been favourites for ICC events ? Most of the time their team hasn't even been good enough to win it.

In 92 when they lost it was due to unbelievable bowling . Nothing to do with choking. From 96-2015 they just weren't good enough. The year they have the players they are in the final and should win it if they turn up.
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You can’t say they lost to unbelievable bowling and did not choke the chase.

That was the reason they choked; the bowling was okay besides Wasim who was the most expensive bowler in the match (tied with Sohail). He wasn’t unplayable; England just took little precaution.

They were never THE favorites but have been favorited to win in the past and not done so.

75’, 79’, 87’, 92’, 17’.
 
Aaron Finch not a shade of Aussie skips of past Waugh Ponting Border Clarke or you are as good a captain as your team
 
Kianig89 said:
Aaron Finch not a shade of Aussie skips of past Waugh Ponting Border Clarke or you are as good a captain as your team
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A captain is only as good as his team.

Aus has good bowling, but their batting is a bit shaky. It costed them dearly today.
 
Hope Roy gets a ton, this isn't the same Australia of past. They still have the spirit but the skills are lacking. Australia's era of domination is over, other teams have caught up and surpassed.
 
ManFan said:
You can’t say they lost to unbelievable bowling and did not choke the chase.

That was the reason they choked; the bowling was okay besides Wasim who was the most expensive bowler in the match (tied with Sohail). He wasn’t unplayable; England just took little precaution.

They were never THE favorites but have been favorited to win in the past and not done so.

75’, 79’, 87’, 92’, 17’.
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Not every defeat is a choke . New Zealand arent the favourites, so they should turn up and not even try then ? Lol there is clearly some mental issue if you lose every single semi or final you are in. In some games they haven't competed. Clearly a mental issue.
 
124 in 17 overs lmao. This aint even a T20. England are pumped and hurt, they want to rip Aussie to shreds.
 
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