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England (387 & 192) defeat India (387 & 170) by 22 runs to take 2-1 lead in the 5-match Test series

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India defeated England by 336 runs in the second Test at Birmingham and leveled the five-match series 1-1 on Sunday.

India registered their first win at the venue on thei ninth attempt.

The second Test will be played at iconic Lord’s ground between July 10 and 14.

The squads are as follows:

India: Shubman Gill (c), Rishabh Pant (wk), Yashasvi Jaiswal, KL Rahul, Sai Sudharsan, Abhimanyu Easwaran, Karun Nair, Nitish Reddy, Ravindra Jadeja, Dhruv Jurel (wk), Washington Sundar, Shardul Thakur, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammad Siraj, Prasidh Krishna, Akash Deep, Arshdeep Singh, Kuldeep Yadav, Harshit Rana.

England: Ben Stokes (C), Jofra Archer, Gus Atkinson, Shoaib Bashir, Jacob Bethell, Harry Brook, Brydon Carse, Sam Cook, Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Jamie Overton, Ollie Pope, Joe Root, Jamie Smith, Josh Tongue, Chris Woakes

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Awful XI again, just 30 percent of winning chance. Gus Atkinson would have been X factor and been a great replacement for exhausted
Woakes or Carse...Pope and Crawley still in the squad. Bairstow still remains an outcast.

Balancing factor could be India playing Karun Nair and Stokes stepping up at Lords
 
Awful XI again, just 30 percent of winning chance. Gus Atkinson would have been X factor and been a great replacement for exhausted
Woakes or Carse...Pope and Crawley still in the squad. Bairstow still remains an outcast.

Balancing factor could be India playing Karun Nair and Stokes stepping up at Lords
Woakes has an impressive record here. They need a new ball bowler.
 
England Men's Test XI:

Zak Crawley

Ben Duckett

Ollie Pope

Joe Root

Harry Brook

Ben Stokes (C)

Jamie Smith (WK)

Chris Woakes

Brydon Carse

Jofra Archer

Shoaib Bashir
 
The only benefit Archer will give England will be to ensure Gill and Jaiswal doesn't even touch 150 in any innings
 
Jaiswal played starc in Perth and he scored a daddy hundred. Jaiswal played against Mark Wood and scored a double century. He knows how to stick. He's not a mindless bazballer.
If it is the 2019 version of Archer then there is no chance for any version of Jaiswal against him.
 
If it is the 2019 version of Archer then there is no chance for any version of Jaiswal against him.
Archer is bowling fast still but people got adjusted to his pace now.Abhishek have handled both Archer and mark wood to score 135 in t20 .Now players are more concerned/(lack) about technique to play against swing or seam than pace
 
If it is the 2019 version of Archer then there is no chance for any version of Jaiswal against him.

He has played only 13 tests averaging 31. Most important number is strike rate which is 62. Typically that strike rate belongs to workhorse bowler. Even siraj has a strike rate of 52. He can be threatening without taking wickets.
 
Archer is bowling fast still but people got adjusted to his pace now.Abhishek have handled both Archer and mark wood to score 135 in t20 .Now players are more concerned/(lack) about technique to play against swing or seam than pace
His strength is nipping lethal bouncers, if he hadn't forgotten his previous self.
 
His strength is nipping lethal bouncers, if he hadn't forgotten his previous self.
Indians bat the best in bouncy Australian conditions historically. Plus English pitches never offer you bounce like Aussie pitches. As Broad said by 3rd day ball will scoot through
 
Indians bat the best in bouncy Australian conditions historically. Plus English pitches never offer you bounce like Aussie pitches. As Broad said by 3rd day ball will scoot through
No that's not true, they struggle in real bouncy conditions...Only prime Rohit was good in handling it
 
Whoever win this Test should win the series or at least avoid a series loss.

Crucial 3rd Test.

I still think England are favorites because it is their home turf and Archer is back.
 
No that's not true, they struggle in real bouncy conditions...Only prime Rohit was good in handling it
What are you talking about. Kohli and Rahane absolutely brutalized Johnson and Co bouncer strategy in 2014 right after the famous Johnson Ashes series where he physically hurt a lot of English men while taking 40 wickets. Pujara took it on his body scoring over 500 in the 2018 series. Gill is next level short ball player. Pant has destroyed Aussies in Australia many times. One of the main reason they lost at Edgbaston was their short ball ploy did not work.
 
What are you talking about. Kohli and Rahane absolutely brutalized Johnson and Co bouncer strategy in 2014 right after the famous Johnson Ashes series where he physically hurt a lot of English men while taking 40 wickets. Pujara took it on his body scoring over 500 in the 2018 series. Gill is next level short ball player. Pant has destroyed Aussies in Australia many times. One of the main reason they lost at Edgbaston was their short ball ploy did not work.
There is a difference between a plain short ball and a lethal bouncer....Like Wahab vs Watson, Archer vs Smith
 
There is a difference between a plain short ball and a lethal bouncer....Like Wahab vs Watson, Archer vs Smith
What lethal lol He tried that all in India at 150k. Abishek smashed him for 24 runs or so coming half way down the wicket. Even Shreyas Iyer smashed him to pieces
 
What lethal lol He tried that all in India at 150k. Abishek smashed him for 24 runs or so coming half way down the wicket. Even Shreyas Iyer smashed him to pieces
He is talking as if Indian players never played short stuff .with out that ability to play, India can never win series against aus .its not 90s where batsmen are scared of bowlers to ignore shots.Even xyz bowlers are employing upper cuts and ramp shots.
 
You need Scott Boland kind of bowlers to trouble Indian Batsmen! Express Pace guys usually won't harm them (Even Shoaib Akther couldn't trouble them after the beginning series). It is unfortunate that England doesn't have successor for Anderson! PLUS Indians now have Jaiswal & Gill in addition to Pant and Rahul (from the last time).

India has a golden chance to exploit and win this series... Smart Captaincy, Apt Team Selection and Killer Instinct can ensure this... Definitely they have the resources and opportunity...
 
He is talking as if Indian players never played short stuff .with out that ability to play, India can never win series against aus .its not 90s where batsmen are scared of bowlers to ignore shots.Even xyz bowlers are employing upper cuts and ramp shots.
Indias weakest short ball players may be the best in many teams. Movement is going to be the main issue which is an issue for everybody as we saw with Brook and Root
 
England's bowling is their problem , there is just not enough quality and experience to cause trouble. India have three very good fast bowlers who can use conventional and wobble seam very well.
 
Rishabh Pant talks about pitch conditions ahead of the Lord's Test

"See, as a team, generally, what we plan is to play according to the conditions given to us. We don't want to think about what the opposition is thinking—whether they are changing their plans or not. Whatever they're doing, we'll do our best and do better from there. Simple,"

"The discussion was that England will give us better wickets because the kind of cricket that they play. So for us, the mantra was to get 20 wickets on these batting-friendly wickets. That was already planned. Eventually, our batters have to step up because we don't have two of our senior players too. Like I said, it's an opportunity to step up and people are slowly doing that. Eventually, we might do even better as a team,"

"I think everything (What makes Bumrah special). How accurate he is, the way his mind works, I think he is just an amazing man. I think it's more difficult for the wicket-keeper behind the wicket than for a batsman, I guess. Especially in England (the movement he gets)."
 
mominsaigol said:
I claimed what English media stated. Not what I stated.

:vk2

The 'English' media in this case being former Indian cricketer Saba Karim speaking on an Indian TV channel...?
 
India did one good thing against Root which was to block his favorite scoring area third man and short mid wicket. He is still Indias no 1 threat by a long way not withstanding performance of Jamie smith
 
Atkinson is probably not fully fit yet, that is the only reason I can see for him not playing, otherwise he is their main bowler.
 
The 'English' media in this case being former Indian cricketer Saba Karim speaking on an Indian TV channel...?
I dont give a crap about what indians speak on their rubbish indian TV channels filled with fake news and biased propaganda.

Everyone knows only the west speaks the truth.
 
Atkinson is probably not fully fit yet, that is the only reason I can see for him not playing, otherwise he is their main bowler.
And also that wood guy, don't know what ECB was doing all this while...But Bairstow is fit and not in..May be his days are over now
 
Why are some fans crying about selection? England can selects anyone we don't give a damn about it. They can bring Anderson,broad or even Flintoff .last match World number one Bumrah rested but no Indian fans gives excuse about it.

:kp
 
Why are some fans crying about selection? England can selects anyone we don't give a damn about it. They can bring Anderson,broad or even Flintoff .last match World number one Bumrah rested but no Indian fans gives excuse about it.

:kp
Lol nice joke 👍
 
Atkinson is probably not fully fit yet, that is the only reason I can see for him not playing, otherwise he is their main bowler.
Atkinson is fit enough to play. But they don't want two injury return players playing at the same time. What if both broke half way throuhg. That will be the ultimate nightmare. Tongue is the highest wicket taker for England this series. He removed SMith and Warner in both innings of the one test he played. Also he was one of the main reason they won the first test. He mopped the tail in a jiffy.
 
The big threat will be from Woakes, if it's swing friendly
 
Atkinson is fit enough to play. But they don't want two injury return players playing at the same time. What if both broke half way throuhg. That will be the ultimate nightmare. Tongue is the highest wicket taker for England this series. He removed SMith and Warner in both innings of the one test he played. Also he was one of the main reason they won the first test. He mopped the tail in a jiffy.
What is England thinking?? Look they may still win but tongue was their best bowler and they drop him?
 
Ben Stokes and Brendon McCullum hold private talks with Lord's officials over pitch ahead of crunch third India Test after Edgbaston run-fest
 
I am happy Tongue is sititng out. He is rapid. COnsistently hits 90 mph. Also that angle is uncomfortable for batsmen.
 
read thread carefully then you can see the tears for some fans just like last day of 2nd test match. :misbah:qdkcheeky:kp
It's not even tears 🤣🤣🤣. It's an online forumn and a game. One that you take too seriously.
 
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Why are some fans crying about selection? England can selects anyone we don't give a damn about it. They can bring Anderson,broad or even Flintoff .last match World number one Bumrah rested but no Indian fans gives excuse about it.

:kp
How can India be blamed for whom England selects in their playing 11?
 
India has a solid chance to win this one as well... Bumrah is back but they won even without him so not sure what is gonna change here..But they really need to get rid of Prasidh and make akashdeep regular.
 
Does eng have no better spinner than Bashir, at this point I would rather play a batter and go with root for some spin or atleast play a spin all rounder, their bowling won't be worse than harmless Bashir but their lower order runs can be the difference. Is Leach done? And One Eng fetish with chasing should have made series 2-0, they just got away due to India lack of ruthlessness in first test, they should have buried them when they had chnace. Otherwise both last two tests batting first on those highways was the no Brainer decision. And they also don't have anyone better Than Zak Crawly also, This English team have too many holes. They should feel lucky if they don't lose this series.
 
yea I have seen Atkinson. Skiddy. But predictable. Sanju Samson brutalized him in T20. May be very effective when it comes to slope. But he is not playing.
Atkinson, if his speeds are up, is actually a bigger threat than anyone else. T20 doesn't matter. Anyone can get hammered. But he is a good Test bowler .
 
India fluking one victory means jiggly jack. England will win this 4-1.

Its a shame that I couldnt predict outside factors
 
I'm out of town ( Due to Guru Purnima) so likely Miss the first half of the Today Play. Come on India ,show their place to arrogant English team and their wannabe supporters .

:kp
 
I'm out of town ( Due to Guru Purnima) so likely Miss the first half of the Today Play. Come on India ,show their place to arrogant English team and their wannabe supporters .

:kp
I'm out of town ( Due to Guru Purnima) so likely Miss the first half of the Today Play

No one cares
 
Edgbaston was the 4th flattest pitch in England in the last 20 years.

Lords won't be that flat but it's often a slow pitch
 
England start heavy favourites but India should show more fight. Gill can't keep scoring . Others have to step up.
 
Edgbaston was the 4th flattest pitch in England in the last 20 years.

Lords won't be that flat but it's often a slow pitch

Gill stood literally 2 feet outside the crease in the 2nd test. They eventually tried keeper standing up. By the time it was too late.
 
Gill stood literally 2 feet outside the crease in the 2nd test. They eventually tried keeper standing up. By the time it was too late.
His triggers and stances changed with each bowler. He only stood outside to Woakes.

Very impressed by that, to be honest.
 
He is not even able to bring that in ODIs anymore. :kp

Dude is 30 now. Archer may do well at Lord's but not a long term option imo.
People though Steve Smith was done and dusted. Look at the comments pre BGT. I can even ss some.

Comments such as

1) He couldnt even perform against Pakistan in his own den
2) Hes has been avg 33 for 1.5 years, india will eat him alive
3) He will probably retire after BGT

And then 1st test failed, 2nd test failed, 3rd test Century but a very painful one to watch, and finally 4th test Brutal bashing , kicked em right in the curb.

Always back your ace stars. Always.
 
People though Steve Smith was done and dusted. Look at the comments pre BGT. I can even ss some.

Comments such as

1) He couldnt even perform against Pakistan in his own den
2) Hes has been avg 33 for 1.5 years, india will eat him alive
3) He will probably retire after BGT

And then 1st test failed, 2nd test failed, 3rd test Century but a very painful one to watch, and finally 4th test Brutal bashing , kicked em right in the curb.

Always back your ace stars. Always.
@Nikhil_cric

Brother Nikhil when Archer activates God Mode :virat
 
People though Steve Smith was done and dusted. Look at the comments pre BGT. I can even ss some.

Comments such as

1) He couldnt even perform against Pakistan in his own den
2) Hes has been avg 33 for 1.5 years, india will eat him alive
3) He will probably retire after BGT

And then 1st test failed, 2nd test failed, 3rd test Century but a very painful one to watch, and finally 4th test Brutal bashing , kicked em right in the curb.

Always back your ace stars. Always.
Except that Steve Smith had continuously batted for the last 4 years in Test/FCcricket and had hit a lot of balls in the nets as well.

Mind you, regardless of his performance in BGT, his absolute best is well behind him (2014-2019) and he is unlikely to ever reach those highs ever again .

Archer has bowled 18 overs in 4.5 years in FC cricket.

I don't see the comparison , to be honest. This is a gamble
 
"If" he does. :yk2
Except that Steve Smith had continuously batted for the last 4 years in Test/FCcricket and had hit a lot of balls in the nets as well.

Mind you, regardless of his performance in BGT, his absolute best is well behind him (2014-2019) and he is unlikely to ever reach those highs ever again .

Archer has bowled 18 overs in 4.5 years in FC cricket.

I don't see the comparison , to be honest. This is a gamble
I never said Steve smith is back to his prime. However he has clearly recovered from his slump.

He tends to hit 50's here and their and sometimes gets a 100. He managed to up his avg from just under 55(54.9) back upto 56 again.

He is clearly no longer avg 28-33 like he use to.

And as for Archer, he doesnt need practise. No needs practise when they have activated God Mode. :don
 
yea I have seen Atkinson. Skiddy. But predictable. Sanju Samson brutalized him in T20. May be very effective when it comes to slope. But he is not playing.
You are recently basing too much on bowling performance in IPL. Any bowler can have a bad day in T20. It is a different kettle of fish in the long format.
 
Except that Steve Smith had continuously batted for the last 4 years in Test/FCcricket and had hit a lot of balls in the nets as well.

Mind you, regardless of his performance in BGT, his absolute best is well behind him (2014-2019) and he is unlikely to ever reach those highs ever again .

Archer has bowled 18 overs in 4.5 years in FC cricket.

I don't see the comparison , to be honest. This is a gamble
Major gamble. The only way I can see that he is been picked is if they are preparing a pitch where he won't be required to bowl long spells in both innings and they are hoping to steamroll India quickly.
 
Major gamble. The only way I can see that he is been picked is if they are preparing a pitch where he won't be required to bowl long spells in both innings and they are hoping to steamroll India quickly.

They were expecting Atkinson to be fit but his recovery hasn't gone as fast they hoped. Now they are bringing him for the 4th Test.

Baz and Stokes just want Archer to go flat out in this one Test on a helpful pitch and hoping for the best . Probably won't play again once Atkinson comes back.
 
I'm out of town ( Due to Guru Purnima) so likely Miss the first half of the Today Play. Come on India ,show their place to arrogant English team and their wannabe supporters .

:kp
Guru purnima for whom, licking feet of Statpadder gill & other pbks people:kp
 
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