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England [67 & 362/9] beat Australia [179 & 246] by 1 wicket in the third Test to level the Ashes 1-1

What will be the outcome of the third Test?

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Artaxerxes said:
This pitch is not easy to bat on.Both teams have good bowling attacks that is why it is going to be a low scoring game.i don't see any other team doing well on this ground either .India which boasts a strong batting line up would have been blown away too.
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While I agree with you, this is the weakest English batting lineup since the very early 2000's imo...maybe even before then. They would struggle on Aussie roads too.
 
It does look difficult for England to comeback into this game if they conceede 400+ lead as this is a must win test for England but after being bowled out for 67 it is hardwork.
 
Australia could declare now and still win by 100ish runs.
 
Torborg said:
While I agree with you, this is the weakest English batting lineup since the very early 2000's imo...maybe even before then. They would struggle on Aussie roads too.
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This is the weakest England line in history.

None of these guys except Root and perhaps Stokes would have got into the 2000 side - it had Athers, Stewart, Thorpe, Trescothick, Nasser, and Vaughan coming through too.
 
England have gotten soft after the ODI WC win. On the other hand the Aussies having been in England for a good 3 months look up for it
 
ENG 67
AUS 179, 171/6 (57.0) CRR: 3
Day 2: Stumps - Australia lead by 283 runs

So Australia firmly in the driving seat.
 
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Australia would rather pick Ashes win in England over winning a WC, as they already have won the WC 5 times.
 
The bowlers tried their best but the batsmen had already let them down to a terminal degree. The Ashes are effectively gone at this point - wonder if a bit of pride can be salvaged for England in the final two Tests.
 
Australia took a major step towards retaining the Ashes after bowling England out for just 67 on day two of the third Ashes Test at Headingley.

After being bowled out for 179 on day one, Australia responded spectacularly on Friday, rolling through the England line-up in just 27.5 overs as the hosts tossed away their good work with the ball in the space of a morning.

Josh Hazlewood, so impressive on his return to the side at Lord’s, was rampant once more, removing Jason Roy and Joe Root for 9 and 0, respectively, to get the ball rolling.


Rory Burns’ attempted hook shot went awry as the ball flicked his glove on its way towards Tim Paine from the bowling of Pat Cummins, and Ben Stokes followed next, a slash towards a wide delivery seeing him edge to David Warner in the slip cordon to give James Pattinson his first of the day.

The procession continued and at lunch, England sat perilously positioned on 54/6. Chris Woakes’ departure from the first ball after the break made things worse and just 13 runs were added as England crumbled to their lowest Ashes total in 69 years, handing Australia a lead of 112. England's top-scorer in the innings was Joe Denly, who hit 12 and was the only batsman to reach double-figures.


Hazlewood was the man who finished the innings, bowling Jack Leach to claim his seventh five-wicket haul in Test cricket, one that was thoroughly deserved. Nathan Lyon’s off-spin was required for only one over as Australia’s menacing pace attack did the damage.

Warner perished for a second-ball duck in Australia’s innings to give England cause for belief, but a demolition job akin to Australia’s was not to come.

Leach found turn to go through Marcus Harris’ gate, but Australia’s middle order showed a level of resistance that was amiss during England’s innings. At the heart of their batting display was Marnus Labuschagne, who is proving to be as much a thorn in England's side as Steve Smith, the man he has replaced in Australia's line-up.

Labuschagne offered a chance to Joe Root in the slip cordon while on 14, but the England skipper failed to hold on. Stokes was the disappointed bowler and he was frustrated once more when Bairstow dropped Labuschagne on 42 when diving to his right behind the stumps. It proved harsh on Stokes, the most threatening England bowler during the evening.

Stokes, failing to find much luck, did remove Matthew Wade to claim his second wicket of the day, and Paine followed shortly to the bowling of Broad to give England further joy. But Labuschagne advanced to a third consecutive Test half-century as Australia ended the day on 171/6 in possession of a 283-run lead.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1321384
 
James said:
The bowlers tried their best but the batsmen had already let them down to a terminal degree. The Ashes are effectively gone at this point - wonder if a bit of pride can be salvaged for England in the final two Tests.
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England should quit test cricket and take up fishing, was worse than school boy batting. Probably best to find a decent bar or restaurant mid afternoon to enjoy your stay in leeds. Thid test willl be over very quickly tomorrow.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
They are not blessed with world class test batting line up to bat well on tough pitches. Failed against Ireland, West Indies now Australia.
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World class?Its barely any class right now.
They are trying to make their ODI approach work in Tests and its truly abysmal to say the least.
 
Lucky Moeen got dropped... otherwise he would have got the blame.

Denly. Roy on a great run...………….will they be dropped, I doubt it...
 
Robert said:
This is the weakest England line in history.

None of these guys except Root and perhaps Stokes would have got into the 2000 side - it had Athers, Stewart, Thorpe, Trescothick, Nasser, and Vaughan coming through too.
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Yet, they're as gifted as any side you've had. It's your coaches that haven't instilled the discipline required to succeed in test cricket. They need a Langer.
 
Looks like Ashes is not coming home.

If England loses this Test (which is very likely now), Aussies retain the Ashes.
 
Root's gone from captaincy even if England win the ashes from here I think. They need him to return to the batsman he was. Not a single great batsman in that line up now. Bairstow especially how far he's fallen.

It's not even a question of lack of batting talent. Bairstow, Roy, Butler, Root, Stokes all have ability to do really well in tests. Even Burns might be good enough. Maybe the rest don't look too impressive, but you've already got so many talents.

With everyone not in form and England's test record waning, wouldn't be surprised if Morgan returns. He might even get captaincy too.
 
England should make wholesale changes to Test side like they did to ODI side after 2015 WC.

They should get some proper Test specialists.
 
wrongun said:
Who are the likely Test specialists?
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Their county system is possibly one of the best in the world. They have to figure out the right combination.

This present Test team is clearly not the right one. They couldn't even win in West Indies.
 
Need to make strict changes now.

Bairstow has to bat as specialist bat, with Foakes taking gloves. Drop Buttler and Morgan should come up and take captaincy.

Burns
Denly
Root
Morgan(c)
Stokes
Bairstow
Foakes (wkt)

This is the best they can afford for the present time-being.
 
For Englands players constantly dealing with green tops in county cricket, their ineptitude against the moving bouncy attack has been shocking. To me this ashes came too soon for the players, they were clearly not over the wc hangover
 
From every disaster comes an opportunity... how’s about England do a massive overhaul after this match, throw a load of players and ideas in the dustbin, and then they will have 2 Tests against a good Australian team to experiment with some new players and ideas for the future.
 
James said:
From every disaster comes an opportunity... how’s about England do a massive overhaul after this match, throw a load of players and ideas in the dustbin, and then they will have 2 Tests against a good Australian team to experiment with some new players and ideas for the future.
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There isn’t anyone better about. Thorpe says the same batting unit will play. I can only see them losing 0-4.

In the last couple of years they have been all out for 50 to 75 four times. Their approach is wrong, it’s all about counterattack when they lose a wicket, like in ODIs. They need someone who will dig in and stop a collapse.

Root as skipper has to go. We need his run power back. He is killing the golden goose Jofra but bowling his for seventy overs in nine days. Give the armband to Broad.
 
An incisive performance from the Australian bowlers on the second day of the Headingley Test put the team in a comfortable position to retain the Ashes in just three Tests – and reminded the cricket world just why their pace attack has attracted so much envy.

Playing in their first international together as Australia's front-line fast bowlers, Josh Hazlewood, Pat Cummins and James Pattinson combined to bundle England out for 67 on Friday, August 23. Hazlewood, with five wickets, was the hero of the day. Having been left out of the first Test before coming back strongly, he knew that with the likes of Mitchell Starc, Peter Siddle and Michael Neser running drinks and waiting on the sidelines, competition for places was high and nothing less than the best would do.

"The way the series is set out, we've got six great quicks here and I think that keeps you on your toes as much as anything," Hazlewood explained after the day's play. "On days like today, if you bowl poorly, it might be your last game of the series, that's how good the quicks are on the bench.

"When you look over, or if they're running out a towel or a drink to you at fine leg, it's Mitch Starc or it's Peter Siddle. And you're like 'these guys should be playing', so it certainly keeps you on your toes and that's a good thing.

"At times (in the past) you might get a little bit comfortable or relaxed that nobody's really knocking the door down," he explained. "But when they're right here training every day, putting pressure on you every day, it adds that extra element."

They're all great one day cricketers, some are great Test cricketers.
Josh Hazlewood on England's batsmen

The pacer revealed that their plan had been to starve the England batsmen of runs. The ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2019 champions have struggled to make the switch to Test cricket this series, and their impatience where a defensive game was necessary has proved costly.

"They're all great one day cricketers, some are great Test cricketers, so I think they love to feel bat on ball, especially through that middle order," Hazlewood said of the England batsmen. "If we can dry up the runs and force a mistake, which we saw a couple today, then that's fantastic."

"The runs stayed pretty stagnant for a lot of the time and we just kept building pressure and taking the wicket here and there. A bit of luck went our way and it just felt like it was our day. We certainly bowled well."

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1322043
 
Also seems everyone copying Smith style of leaving balls! Pattinson also
 
Another gutsy knock by Labuschagne today, on 79* and accumulating runs quite regularly.
 
Australia have been bowled out for 246, Labuschagne with the highest score of 80 (187).

England need 359 runs in their fourth innings to win.
 
AUS 179, 246
ENG 67, 11/0 (4.0) CRR: 2.75
Day 3: Lunch Break - England need 348 runs
 
tyron_woodley said:
agreed but I am impressed with lambushagne. He really stepped up for Aussies. So now khawaja or head will be dropped for sure once smith comes back.
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Yes hes batted well, I'd drop khawaja he's had alot of opportunity and his stats away from Australia are very poor
 
Roy made to look like a fool. Great bowling from cummins
 
What a fabulous pace attack.

I’ve been saying since 2011 that Cummins and Pattinson are absolutely world class, and Hazlewood is the ideal probing bowler at the other end.

They don’t give you the respite that Starc does. No freebies at all - it’s like the old West Indies attack of 1977-1983.
 
sweep_shot said:
Their county system is possibly one of the best in the world. They have to figure out the right combination.

This present Test team is clearly not the right one. They couldn't even win in West Indies.
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Not anymore. ECB have pushed the County Championship to the margins of the season in April and September when very seam friendly conditions make batting a lottery.

Batsmen therefore don't get the opportunity to spend long periods at the crease, turn 50s to 100s and 200s and with this stupid Hundred competition this issue will only get worse.

It's also about practice. How much time do these guys spend in the nets leaving the ball and trying to play with a straight bat ? Seems all the focus these days is on hitting.
 
Junaids said:
What a fabulous pace attack.

I’ve been saying since 2011 that Cummins and Pattinson are absolutely world class, and Hazlewood is the ideal probing bowler at the other end.

They don’t give you the respite that Starc does. No freebies at all - it’s like the old West Indies attack of 1977-1983.
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they were both **** in sub continent. hazelwood too. they are good in the right conditions.
 
Denly is a walking wicket am afraid - fear written all over his face.
 
tyron_woodley said:
they were both **** in sub continent. hazelwood too. they are good in the right conditions.
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Cummins was really good when he made his comeback in India.

He took 8 wickets in 2 Tests at 30.25. He has also played 2 Tests in Bangladesh, where he took 6 wickets at 29.00.

As for Pattinson, he has played 3 Tests in Asia, all in India, and has 9 wickets at an average of 27.77.

So I think both Cummins and Pattinson have done well in Asia.

Hazlewood is the wrong style to succeed in Asia - like Ehsan Adil.
 
Junaids said:
Cummins was really good when he made his comeback in India.

He took 8 wickets in 2 Tests at 30.25. He has also played 2 Tests in Bangladesh, where he took 6 wickets at 29.00.

As for Pattinson, he has played 3 Tests in Asia, all in India, and has 9 wickets at an average of 27.77.

So I think both Cummins and Pattinson have done well in Asia.

Hazlewood is the wrong style to succeed in Asia - like Ehsan Adil.
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not really. you need to watch the game to see how they performed. They were never really in the game. cummins struggled alot and only took wickets when game was already out of hand. Likewise for Pattinson. hazelwood was pure fodder in india.

I will reserve my judgement till they tour india again though.
 
Good partnership in progress between Root and Denly - could this turn the game around on it head?
 
A good batting unit must have their two best batsmen in top 4. It's a case with any batting lineup. You must have two best guys with the bat in your top 4.

NZ have Kane and Taylor.
India has Pujara and Kohli.
Australia have Smith and Warner.
England earlier had Cook and KP.

This is because in test cricket, the job of building innings/lasting long has to be done by your two best bats. It has to be a combination of an opener & a no.4 or a no.3 & no.4.

This is England's problem currently. They have Joe Root,their main bat at 3 but who exactly is their second best bat and where is he?

It's not Stokes, he is an all-rounder, a batting one, but still an A.R. It's not Buttler or Burns(he has just started).

It has to be Bairstow. He has played enough for England, has enough experience and I should have batted higher at 4 and not keep gloves. In a good batting lineup, the responsibility always comes from a no.3 & a no.4 and it had to be Root and Bairstow, both playing as specialist bats.

They don't have another well-established 45+ averaging batsmen in top 4 which is the reason this batting is suffering.
 
Root looking very solid, Australia must try to get wickets here. If Root gets a ton, England just might win this.
 
Root and Denly have regained some English pride and are starting to make us all believe, but once their partnership is broken then England will collapse as usual.
 
Should not think much about target and should look to play one bowl at a time.
 
James said:
Root and Denly have regained some English pride and are starting to make us all believe, but once their partnership is broken then England will collapse as usual.
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Very true - England can win this.
 
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