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England v Australia | 2nd Test | Lords | 16-20 July 09

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hmm...dont know about the english victory as yet....i wont bet against sussie fighting it out and seeing off the 5 or 6 sessions with the bat (assuming it will be a declaration at some point tomorrow morning)

Bad move IMO for not letting Aus follow on
 
After what happened in the 1st test 4th innings...............I think England will be happy to bowl in the 4rth innings for now.
 
Random Aussie said:
We are going down....
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I am surprised,,,never ever seen an australian bowling lineup that looks so inept...IN THIS TEST not an any point are they looking threatening or like being able to take 20 wickets cheaply
 
adnanlotia said:
I am surprised,,,never ever seen an australian bowling lineup that looks so inept...IN THIS TEST not an any point are they looking threatening or like being able to take 20 wickets cheaply
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Don't worry , sooner or later their gonna get wickets...........One way or another ;-) .
 
Oxy said:
England batting themselves OUT of this match!
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They need to picl up the runrate...there is rain showers predicted for the next few days...and a great catch as i speak! Bopara doesnt think its carried though...umpires discussing this...
 
Ravinder is OUT!

130-3

He stands his ground waiting for confirmation from 3rd umpire
 
Tv replays always make it look like a bumpp-ball.

Thats OUT for me - but I am sureRavi will get a life
 
That was as out as it can get.

What about taking the fielders word.

David Lloyd and Naseer Hussain I lost some respect for you right there.

The ball is clearly going into his hands and htey are taking such a bias approach towards England.
 
Looks like England are having all the rub of the green so far. With the Ponting decision and now the Ravi decision going against them..Feel sorry for them. But looking at how much luck has always gone for them overall it doesnt seem so unfair..

Can never forget Sydney gate..
 
KP's painful innings of 44 is over - Siddle gets his man

174-4
 
Pietersen is really struggling with his injury. He looked in good touch early on but wasn't batting properly for the rest of his innings. He's had two injections in the last fortnight, one a cortisone injection into his back, and often doesn't take the field. He's clearly not fit to play. I know he wants to, but England need to take the common sense decision on this, though I think they know just like I do that there isn't a 100% fit batsman out there who's better than a 50% fit Pietersen.
 
If Pieterson isnt fit he shouldnt be playing. He is only going aggravate his injury seriously in the long run and besides he cant give his 100% if he is injured, someone else will have to come in.
 
Top inngs from Prior - unlucky to be run out - direct hit from the boundary from North

Enter Freddie....

260-5 [Lead 470]
 
On_the_up said:
Freddie's final test match inns at Lords, is it going to be a special one?
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I hope so - a few fireworks will go down well
 
BOundary to get off the mark - has Hauritz dislocated his finger again :)
 
Stuart Broad has looked 10x the bowler Mitchell Johnson has!
 
Big ovation for him.
Ponting pleading with M Johnson. Bowl the way you were bowling in first test - very wide. We don't want to bat today
 
i was just wondering, england have always been criticized for declaring too late in the past...and taking a safe approach

What will happen if they declare tonight with a lead of 510-520 and australia actually manage to chase it down in the next 2 days.

It will be a great great efford bu australia, but can you imagine what will happen in the media for england, strauss and co :) Wow, a part of me wants to see that happen
 
yeah....looks like a good enough batting pitch and is not expected to deteriote in the next 2 days either....need a large leed....however I still feel it would be brave if they declare tonight (light permitting) and give them 2-3 overs to face. a wicket in those overs and england favourites to wrap it up tomorrow
 
Flintoff timing it beautifully. Another 4

Eng lead is now 504
 
Umpires conferring for the light - bit gloomy, but surely Eng wouldnt take it?

Ponting responds by bringing on the gentle Siddle :)
 
what i ws wondering is why cant they switch the flood flights on? I heard there is a limit by the council on how many days a year they can put it on, but surely they do not have 11 days nighters a year at LORDS, they should include the 5 days for a lords test in those 11 days.
 
its not often England find themselves in a winning position against the Aussies....desperately need any extra time they can get...come on council make an exception :)
 
I think Freddie wants to take the light...another 12th man will be running out there soon methinks!
 
Flintoff calling the 12th man again. He wants to know what the plan is. The guy was there 2 overs ago. He is still waiting at boundary. Take the light or not can be the question
I guess no declaration tonight as light will probably be offered to Australia so declaration will be wasted

six bulbs are on. It will take half hour atleast at this pace. Send that power to Pakistan instead of wasting it today
 
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masoom is running on the field with a drink. England leading by 521

Why can't Strauss get up his butt and run on the field instead of the masoom agent. Masoom reporting to Strauss now
 
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Rain - they come off.

Might be stumps.

Might be the end of Freddie the bastman at Lords...

311-6 - lead is 521
 
ENG really look formidable at home !
They should bat for an hour tomorrow and try to get the lead till 600.

That shoud be safe.
 
adnanlotia said:
i was just wondering, england have always been criticized for declaring too late in the past...and taking a safe approach

What will happen if they declare tonight with a lead of 510-520 and australia actually manage to chase it down in the next 2 days.

It will be a great great efford bu australia, but can you imagine what will happen in the media for england, strauss and co :) Wow, a part of me wants to see that happen
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I'm at the hairdresser so can't type on my iPhone too well but there's a reason why nobody has ever chased down 500-odd before -- it's bloody hard to do. They would have to bat for two days on a deteriorating pitch contending with the vagiaries of the weather and facing a fired up attack.

I think they will have their work cut out for them to even save this. Still, stranger things have happened.
 
OZGOD said:
I'm at the hairdresser so can't type on my iPhone too well but there's a reason why nobody has ever chased down 500-odd before -- it's bloody hard to do. They would have to bat for two days on a deteriorating pitch contending with the vagiaries of the weather and facing a fired up attack.

I think they will have their work cut out for them to even save this. Still, stranger things have happened.
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There is always a first time, when Windies did it against the Australians, it was a first as well, plus 500 these days is not impossible.

Pitch will not deteriorate as much I would think here at Lords, day 5 is not as hard as some of the other pitches around the world. Lets see what happens, I still wont call this as over yet, lot of cricket left in this one
 
England should go out tomorrow play 30 min attacking cricket, and declare..scoring 500 runs is almost impossible..
 
OZGOD said:
I'm at the hairdresser so can't type on my iPhone too well but there's a reason why nobody has ever chased down 500-odd before -- it's bloody hard to do. They would have to bat for two days on a deteriorating pitch contending with the vagiaries of the weather and facing a fired up attack.

I think they will have their work cut out for them to even save this. Still, stranger things have happened.
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Lords doesn't deterioate that badly, I was there last year on the final day of South Africa and England, and really South Africa had no problem batting out the whole day.

Also I think the declaration against India late last year will be on their mind, even though they have a much bigger score. England will be mindful of setting any target which could be achieved at a normal run-rate, and 521 could be chased within 2 days.

England will be mindful of the weather, they will not want to be deprived simply because they were too cautious and the rain eats up too much time.
Obviously the chances of Aus doing it are very very remote, but I think England will just want that little extra in the bag, bat for an hour or two tomorrow, perhaps put them in 20 mins before lunch.

By then England would have a 600 run lead and can set very attacking fields.
 
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3 days of such brilliant and unexpected cricket from England. If we declare on 600, 8 or 9 times out of 10 we would win from such a position, and I think we will do so. and we deserve to, to be honest.
 
adnanlotia said:
What will happen if they declare tonight with a lead of 510-520 and australia actually manage to chase it down in the next 2 days.
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The highest number of runs scored to chase down a test is 412. It will be a miracle if Australia get 500+ to do it. England should declare now and back their bowlers to win it. There is rain about and they need lots of overs.

I don't reckon the Aussies will know how to play. They were used to McGrath and Warne skittling the oppo. This is a new situation for them. The weight of history is bearing down on them because they look likely to be the first Aussie side to lose at Lord's since 1934.
 
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Australia need 521 runs to win, England have round 180 overs max to get the 10 wkts
 
England last beat Australia at Lords in 1935, weather permitting should fancy their chances.
 
I can understand the declaration - bowling first thing at the Aussies will be good BUT batting for an hour or two would have wrecked that

Good declaration from them - thought that they would be too cautious and bat for a bit
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
I can understand the declaration - bowling first thing at the Aussies will be good BUT batting for an hour or two would have wrecked that

Good declaration from them - thought that they would be too cautious and bat for a bit
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I think they would have batted an hour or two had the forecast for the next day been clear sky with no rain.

But there is a slight rain expectation and thus they will want to get in as many overs as possible with the thinking that 522 should be more than enough run on the board to win.

The only problem which might consider now is that if Australia bat for 2 days straight, then they will probably end up making the runs, i.e. the run-rate will not be an issue.

But then Australia shouldn't be batting for 2 days..
 
Atherton : Who does your sister support Nas?
Nasser Hussain : What is gotta do wid you? :)
 
do we think australia will play positive and actually go for the runs, or they will just try to bat out for the draw....my guess is that if they manage to bat 2 days, they will be really close to the target even going at 3 runs per over
 
great start, already removed one of the Aussie batsmen who could have really stuck in and ground down the attack. Getting Ponting and/or Hussey out by lunch would be delicious.
 
also very impressed with the declaration, I suspect it was the plan all along, which means they have been able to go to bed and wake up knowing they'll be fielding straight away. Full focus like this has undoubtedly helped in making the performance excellent so far today, again.
 
Flintoff grasses a tough chance off Hughes :(
encouraging start though
 
Hughes gone!! Is Flintoff on the way to a very rare five-for?

the two best players get put in against the new-ish ball, just what we needed!!
 
NOT OUT!!!!

OMG

clearly.

David Lloyd has become so bias to England.

How was that not referred.

So an Aussie's word is not good enough but the England man's wors is
good enough.

Similiar thing yesterday with Bopara they referred. Why cant they just be consistent.
 
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Billy Doctrove again... I swear this guy has to be part of a match fixing ring.
 
First wicket off a no-ball, second off a bump-catch. As Boycs amusingly exclaimed: "bad luck you Aussies" :D
 
That is a real tough one.

I think the third umpire would have given it not out simply based on doubt.

Doctrove though was sure it carried and he had the side-on view.

Quite unlucky for Australia, both wickets have an element of doubt in them.
 
I don't give a monkey's, we have had loads of decisions go against us in the past, against Australia and other teams, and at the end of the day Australia have been total and utter cack throughout the entire match, that's why they are losing, not umpires.
 
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