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England v Pakistan | 3rd Test | Birmingham | Aug 3-7, 2016 | Day 2

Wish we can score another 300 which is not really impossible unless we gift our wickets
 
Lefthanded said:
As much as I like your invincible maths, there was never a run there and every commentator who saw it agreed as well.

He could've been run out by a shorter distance if he ran better, but terrible call from Azhar. Robbed the poor kid of a well deserved ton.
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Sorry for him indeed, but watch the clips few times more & you 'll see that Sami was caught like a rabbit in search light. He was almost chuckled seeing Azhar few steps in & started running from his heel, caught off guard. If he wasn't ready, easily could have shouted NO. He was going to the danger end - it was his responsibility to stop his partner, if he wasn't ready - Azhar could have easily returned safely.

Look, I know what I am writing & I am writing this after watching the replay.
 
MMHS said:
That's fine - this pair easily could have taken time & not go for the risky one. But, better teams do run those & they do the basics correct. Also, Sami is about 5'4" & he wasn't holding the bat properly.

These are learning curves, at this age, if he doesn't repeat that, it's more than a Century in UK. Last generation of PAK players couldn't correct their basics after 15 years of International cricket.
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Sorry, but you can't convince me under any circumstance that that is justifiable in this format. In LOIs yes, but tests, definitively no.
 
New ball is 10 overs away. I don't think YK will be able to survive till the EOD today.
 
zoro said:
To run out a youngster just 18 runs away from his maiden century in his third match, just to save his own neck becos he got scared of a bouncer!
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Thats not true! Hes the only guy thats actually taken on the short ball today
 
zoro said:
To run out a youngster just 18 runs away from his maiden century in his third match, just to save his own neck becos he got scared of a bouncer!
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Just let it go, happens in cricket ...
 
Ten overs to the new ball. Time for Azhar to accelerate. And for younis to do whatever he calls this
 
zoro said:
To run out a youngster just 18 runs away from his maiden century in his third match, just to save his own neck becos he got scared of a bouncer!
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Run outs happen.

Stop crying just because it's not Shehzad who didn't get the 100. :))) :))).

Azhar has done his job. If we get a 200 plus lead you think the runout will matter?
 
So far this tour had been controversy free .. Are these press ups going to be made into a controversy..

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zoro said:
To run out a youngster just 18 runs away from his maiden century in his third match, just to save his own neck becos he got scared of a bouncer!
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Cricket is a game. It happens
 
zoro said:
To run out a youngster just 18 runs away from his maiden century in his third match, just to save his own neck becos he got scared of a bouncer!
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Leave it now. Just because Shehzad isn't playing doesn't mean you bash our best Test batsman
 
MMHS said:
Sorry for him indeed, but watch the clips few times more & you 'll see that Sami was caught like a rabbit in search light. He was almost chuckled seeing Azhar few steps in & started running from his heel, caught off guard. If he wasn't ready, easily could have shouted NO. He was going to the danger end - it was his responsibility to stop his partner, if he wasn't ready - Azhar could have easily returned safely.

Look, I know what I am writing & I am writing this after watching the replay.
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Nailed it. Iced mentioned commentators said no single, but same commentators mentioned Sami was asleep at the crease, and back footed, not looking to take single at all.

Regardless, they have both put Pak in a completely dominating position. Lets hope the rest of the team can continue this, if we bat well, we can remove any chance of Eng winning at all.
 
Hang in there Younis, the only way to come back into form is to spend as much time as you can at the crease
 
Rana said:
Hang in there Younis, the only way to come back into form is to spend as much time as you can at the crease
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You have to give him credit, he does seem like he is battling. That being said, I wish he would stop hopping around this much. It is way too much, he has no stable base at all.
 
Loving it Younis, nothing hurts more than an out of form batsman not giving in!
 
I have to step out for lunch, I hope my departure doesn't lead to a flurry of wickets.

Hold the fort boys/girls
 
If Younis stops hopping around, at his age and reflexes....he will be a duck sitting, waiting to get shot!

Hes doing his best at this age to do a job
 
Pete Rose said:
Where'd you get that from what we are watching
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To be honest he does try to fight

He did well in lords scoring 33 and 28 considering HOW MUCH he was struggling. Also ate up a lot of balls

Most of our other batsmen get our within a few deliveries if they are struggling that much
 
Azhar and yk need to be there for us at close of play today, the new ball will be crucial to get through
 
ViciousMachine said:
Nailed it. Iced mentioned commentators said no single, but same commentators mentioned Sami was asleep at the crease, and back footed, not looking to take single at all.

Regardless, they have both put Pak in a completely dominating position. Lets hope the rest of the team can continue this, if we bat well, we can remove any chance of Eng winning at all.
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I concede that Sami Aslam should have called a "NO", but in such close tight calls, often you don't think straight, but more importantly, you don't expect such calls in this format. It was the striker's call, and he called wrong. End of. It's irrelevant whether or not Sami could have ran faster or sooner. A risky call is a risky call, and that has no place in this format especially given the match context.
 
Botham pointing out Anderson in the wrong, how on earth are people going to portray him as a severely biased racist over the issue now :danish.
 
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IcedCoffee said:
Sorry, but you can't convince me under any circumstance that that is justifiable in this format. In LOIs yes, but tests, definitively no.
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So true - then why he didn't stop his partner? He was running to the danger end, he was the non striker who should have been backing with the bowler & on his toes; he should have the head start as the striker needs to finish follow through, settle & then run.

Weather the single was there or not, that we can't prove, but the run-out was a fault of Sami. If he wasn't sure, he could have sent his partner - if Azhar got out, still not his fault.


It's not a question of Test or T20 - as long as PAK think tank believes that the run out was a fault of Azhar, same thing 'll happen time & again. There is a fundamental science of every running, which PAK doesn't follow. At highest level, I saw PAK management putting a gag on Inzi's mouth.
 
Maybe Anderson has been so succesful in his career because he hasnt really been challanged for where he lands his feet?
 
Slog said:
To be honest he does try to fight

He did well in lords scoring 33 and 28 considering HOW MUCH he was struggling. Also ate up a lot of balls

Most of our other batsmen get our within a few deliveries if they are struggling that much
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Oh I am not saying he cant do it or won't be successful. Just saying he had to make it count.
 
Ridiculous logic by Whinny Aerthon and Botham... May Karoon Tu Salla Character dahlia hai :(
 
Expecting a good knock here by Shafiq. He's due on and has done well on the ground previously.
 
Younis just stick it out till the end of the day man.

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the Great Khan said:
Cricinfo mentioned Anderson getting grumpy at azhars celebration. Can someone elaborate??
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Azhar did the 10 push ups

Jimmy wasn't happy and said a few words.

He's been warned for running into pitch in follow through so wasn't in happy mood anyway
 
MMHS said:
So true - then why he didn't stop his partner? He was running to the danger end, he was the non striker who should have been backing with the bowler & on his toes; he should have the head start as the striker needs to finish follow through, settle & then run.

Weather the single was there or not, that we can't prove, but the run-out was a fault of Sami. If he wasn't sure, he could have sent his partner - if Azhar got out, still not his fault.


It's not a question of Test or T20 - as long as PAK think tank believes that the run out was a fault of Azhar, same thing 'll happen time & again. There is a fundamental science of every running, which PAK doesn't follow. At highest level, I saw PAK management putting a gag on Inzi's mouth.
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The fielder wasn't behind Azhar. He was well within his line of sight, in fact Sami probably couldn't see given that the short mid on was blocking his view as well. It was Azhar's job to judge and make the call, and he made a poor one. You won't convince me of otherwise, so let's agree to disagree.
 
Finn has a hamstring, Anderson may get a 3rd warning...

Pretty soon Gary Ballance will be bowling
 
yasir said:
Ridiculous logic by Whinny Aerthon and Botham... May Karoon Tu Salla Character dahlia hai :(
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Logic is sound in my view. Umpires have been inconsistent, but belatedly trying to get it right.
I suppose the flip side is that England have brought this upon themselves. Gower on air saying the England team were implying it at lords and ot to get the umpires attention
 
Foolish from Cook - this is the old British blue blood. He didn't like Oxenford calling Jimmi twice, just from vaunted ego kept him for one extra over. In any logic, with new ball due in half an hour, it doesn't make sense.
 
Slog said:
Azhar did the 10 push ups

Jimmy wasn't happy and said a few words.

He's been warned for running into pitch in follow through so wasn't in happy mood anyway
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Nothing wrong with a bit of banter. Getting into the opponents head is part of the game.
 
6 overs of Moeen pies before the new ball I suspect. Let's try getting 36 off them. It's important that these 2 are there when the new ball is taken.
 
Rana said:
Finn has a hamstring, Anderson may get a 3rd warning...

Pretty soon Gary Ballance will be bowling
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Don't diss Garry Ballance and his awesome leggies :D. Wouldn't be surprised to see Vince have a go with the old ball though.
 
I think there will be lots of Push ups against England throughout now. The Aussies are probably going to take it to the next level
 
If Anderson gets that final warning...I can see our tail adding a vital 50 runs more than what they would have
 
uberkoen said:
Nothing wrong with a bit of banter. Getting into the opponents head is part of the game.
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It wasn't banter, it was pure whinging which the English are masters of. Shame, as we go and shake the hands of their centurions while they moan when we are in a similar position. Nas and Vaughn loved the celebrations...
 
"Jimbo: Are these press-ups going to come out for everything now? Centuries, five-fers, it'll be slip catches next"

Oh the push ups are getting to them. We should start doing them more often.
 
IcedCoffee said:
The fielder wasn't behind Azhar. He was well within his line of sight, in fact Sami probably couldn't see given that the short mid on was blocking his view as well. It was Azhar's job to judge and make the call, and he made a poor one. You won't convince me of otherwise, so let's agree to disagree.
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Every thing accepted - why he didn't call his partner to stop? That's the first fundamental of running. One single doesn't win a Test, one run out doesn't lose it either, but it indicates the understanding & preparation. Fundamental for running is - early & clear calling. Had both Azhar, Sami ended at same end, still accepted.

May be the run wasn't there, I can't measure it; but the run-out is a fault of Sami. Azhar shouldn't be held responsible.
 
Pakistan need to pick up as many runs as possible before new ball, yk needs to get himself solid and set here
 
yasir said:
That was very risky single even in T20 or in street cricket. There was never a run, why he had to start early? - We are talking about test cricket, where you focus on batting in very different way then in LOIs... Taking such a risky single is huge blunder, Azhar sold a young guy too cheaply. Imagine if that was YK on other end, Azhar would have never done that...

Anyway, its not end of the world, but a century would have given him loads of confidence, he fully deserved it...
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Couldn't agree more. Sami wd really felt that he belongs to International cricket had he scored a century. Pity he would hv to start from starch in the next innings.

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The most experienced pak batsmen in the lineup scoring at a snails pace of 23 SR on a 70 overs old ball. Younus bhai is a genius of a cricketer.
 
Will England take the new ball today considering what's happened with Finn and Anderson?
 
uberkoen said:
Will England take the new ball today considering what's happened with Finn and Anderson?
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I think so the new ball should swing and maybe England will think they can get a couple of quick wickets.

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One day they have been denied wickets, English men have fitness and attitude issues. So much for the best bowling attack in the world :face palm:

Botham was winning and crying about wicket earlier in the day... Why we made UAE like wicket for Pakistan :((
 
IcedCoffee said:
I concede that Sami Aslam should have called a "NO", but in such close tight calls, often you don't think straight, but more importantly, you don't expect such calls in this format. It was the striker's call, and he called wrong. End of. It's irrelevant whether or not Sami could have ran faster or sooner. A risky call is a risky call, and that has no place in this format especially given the match context.
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Like you said in the other post. Agree to disagree. How much times have people complained Pakistani DO NOT rotate strike, even in tests. For the majority of that partnership, one of the biggest compliments was how well they were taking singles.

If they rotate strike, people complain. If they dont, people complain. People just like to complain. If you are complaining when Pak is 216/2 chasing a 1st innings total under 300, you probably prefer to complain. I prefer to enjoy the complete domination team green is showing in this test so far.
 
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