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England v Pakistan | 3rd Test | Birmingham | Aug 3-7, 2016 | Day 2

the Great Khan said:
Cricinfo mentioned Anderson getting grumpy at azhars celebration. Can someone elaborate??
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seems like England players are getting sick of the press-ups. Hopefully there are more to come &#55357;&#56859; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvPak?src=hash">#EngvPak</a> <a href="https://t.co/2VcdeoKnHQ">pic.twitter.com/2VcdeoKnHQ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/761236062006108160">August 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Pakistan need to play out the next new ball and we are set for a good position in this game...all I know is that we can still end up on 300-350 odd.


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Match is heading for a draw now thanks to snail pace batting.

Pakistans bowling is overrated and non penetrative.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seems like England players are getting sick of the press-ups. Hopefully there are more to come �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvPak?src=hash">#EngvPak</a> <a href="https://t.co/2VcdeoKnHQ">pic.twitter.com/2VcdeoKnHQ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/761236062006108160">August 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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I am all for it, to rub it in!!! - Next Viking War Chant ;-)
 
MMHS said:
Every thing accepted - why he didn't call his partner to stop? That's the first fundamental of running. One single doesn't win a Test, one run out doesn't lose it either, but it indicates the understanding & preparation. Fundamental for running is - early & clear calling. Had both Azhar, Sami ended at same end, still accepted.

May be the run wasn't there, I can't measure it; but the run-out is a fault of Sami. Azhar shouldn't be held responsible.
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If you can't measure if run out was on or not, how can you measure that it was Sami's fault and not Azhar's? Also, I did reply to the other poster, that Sami should have called no perhaps, but in these close risky calls, batsmen do tend to panic, and especially considering that you don't expect such calls in this format especially given the situation they were in.
 
Boom boom legend said:
No we dont. If you seriously want one of our players to fail then you might as well turn off now. How you can want one of your own to fail and then call yourself a fan is baffling.
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I am a fan of Pakistan cricket, that doesn't make me a fan of every Pakistani player.
 
MMHS said:
Sorry for him indeed, but watch the clips few times more & you 'll see that Sami was caught like a rabbit in search light. He was almost chuckled seeing Azhar few steps in & started running from his heel, caught off guard. If he wasn't ready, easily could have shouted NO. He was going to the danger end - it was his responsibility to stop his partner, if he wasn't ready - Azhar could have easily returned safely.

Look, I know what I am writing & I am writing this after watching the replay.
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Your too good a poster to write what you have.

1. There was no run on, ball went straight to the fieder!
Azhar ran because he got rattled by woake's bouncer in previous delivery!
Instead of behaving as a senior and protecting the youngster, he sacrificed the youngster to save his own neck!

2. sami didnt shout out no becos there was no run on and was shocked to see that azhar was already half way down the track and a youngster can not run out a senior in pak cricket. Seniority comes first no matter what!

3.sami would have been the youngest opener ever to score a century in england.
sami didnt even look like he was going to get out!
God only knows how much sami could have scored 100 , 150 , 200?
azhar already had 2 dropped catches but sami didnt give england a sniff!
 
ViciousMachine said:
Like you said in the other post. Agree to disagree. How much times have people complained Pakistani DO NOT rotate strike, even in tests. For the majority of that partnership, one of the biggest compliments was how well they were taking singles.

If they rotate strike, people complain. If they dont, people complain. People just like to complain. If you are complaining when Pak is 216/2 chasing a 1st innings total under 300, you probably prefer to complain. I prefer to enjoy the complete domination team green is showing in this test so far.
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Criticism of silly mistakes is not necessarily complaining for the sake of complaining as you're describing it. Pakistan is playing great, but that was a silly runout and Sami lost his golden chance at a century. Regardless, what's done is done.
 
IcedCoffee said:
If you can't measure if run out was on or not, how can you measure that it was Sami's fault and not Azhar's? Also, I did reply to the other poster, that Sami should have called no perhaps, but in these close risky calls, batsmen do tend to panic, and especially considering that you don't expect such calls in this format especially given the situation they were in.
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That was the 1st point - Sami was going to the danger end, if he can't make it, communicate clearly. Had Azhar still kept running & got himself or Sami out, his fault; not now.

Leave it.
 
Why are people still arguing about Sami Aslam's run out. It happened like 15 overs ago. Get over it guys.
 
Seen some comments on Facebook calling Azhar selfish and abusing him even though he has a century :facepalm:
 
IcedCoffee said:
Criticism of silly mistakes is not necessarily complaining for the sake of complaining as you're describing it. Pakistan is playing great, but that was a silly runout and Sami lost his golden chance at a century. Regardless, what's done is done.
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Your statement in itself is flawed. Almost EVERY run out in the history of cricket is a mistake. Even at a more basic level, almost every dismissal is a mistake. I never said Azhar made no mistake, I simply stated "it happens" (and Sami should have been more alert as well). People still going on and on about it is the only silly part.

Lets focus on the domination.
 
zoro said:
Your too good a poster to write what you have.

1. There was no run on, ball went straight to the fieder!
Azhar ran because he got rattled by woake's bouncer in previous delivery!
Instead of behaving as a senior and protecting the youngster, he sacrificed the youngster to save his own neck!

2. sami didnt shout out no becos there was no run on and was shocked to see that azhar was already half way down the track and a youngster can not run out a senior in pak cricket. Seniority comes first no matter what!

3.sami would have been the youngest opener ever to score a century in england.
sami didnt even look like he was going to get out!
God only knows how much sami could have scored 100 , 150 , 200?
azhar already had 2 dropped catches but sami didnt give england a sniff!
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Boss, still the fact remains same - Sami should have stopped his partner (& should have risked a slap at the end of today's play). AND, he wasn't ready, he wasn't backing & he was holding bat loosely while running & he didn't dive.

Being rattled is no shame - that's why you steal singles & hide at other end. Even Viv Richards did that; that's the way you build partnership. Sami was doing that whole morning so nicely & could have got a chance less 100, may be even 200.

Now I am enjoying Kathak Dance free, let me enjoy.
 
Last time Pakistan scored anything above 400 was back in 2006 at the Oval. That was Yousuf's year if I remember correctly.
 
Azhar needs to continue and try to be on strike as much as he can to prevent wickets. He's been there for too long (almost all day ) and should take responsibility to avoid any wicket lose before EOD.
 
20 mins of the new ball is going to be a test

Will England take it straight away or wait till 2mura
 
Partnership reaches to 50 runs @ RR: 3.22. They need to continue and Azhar should be eyeing on 150.
 
uberkoen said:
Last time Pakistan scored anything above 400 was back in 2006 at the Oval. That was Yousuf's year if I remember correctly.
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No, that seems wrong. Pretty sure we scored 400+ in SL just last year when we won the series there. And we def crossed 400+ against Bang the same year.
 
Younis seems to be a bit more settled now. Not dancing around much. Let's see what happens when he faces the new ball in a few overs.
 
For the first time, I see a No. 3 Batting for Pakistan, in many, many years. May be, replacing a novice with a pro wasn't that bad an idea.
 
ViciousMachine said:
No, that seems wrong. Pretty sure we scored 400+ in SL just last year when we won the series there. And we def crossed 400+ against Bang the same year.
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Sorry, I meant in England. My mistake. Think we scored 400+ recently in Abu Dhabi as well.
 
On course for 400 but seen us before get into dominant positions in Tests then collapsing. Need sizeable contributions from at least two of Younis, Misbah, Shafiq and Sarfraz.

There's no demons in this pitch, so will want a lead of well over 100.
 
Markhor said:
On course for 400 but seen us before get into dominant positions in Tests then collapsing. Need sizeable contributions from at least two of Younis, Misbah, Shafiq and Sarfraz.

There's no demons in this pitch, so will want a lead of well over 100.
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Shafiq will score a big one in this game. Don't expect much from Younis. Misbah is Mr. Consistent you can easily expect him to score at least a 50 if not more.
 
England's wheels coming off slowly.

Nothing in the pitch. Jimmy warned and ineffective. Finn is brittle. Broad is average. Moen is useless.

Time for Pakistan to score 500 and stomp England. Anything less than 450, they should be very disappointed.
 
Worst time for rain for England. If light is offered PAK MUST not accept. The wet ball doesn't swing much.
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] how long will the barish last.

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troodon said:
England's wheels coming off slowly.

Nothing in the pitch. Jimmy warned and ineffective. Finn is brittle. Broad is average. Moen is useless.

Time for Pakistan to score 500 and stomp England. Anything less than 450, they should be very disappointed.
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Yes, this is very doable, they need to play smart. See off, next 10-15 overs of new ball. They are already tired, seeing off new ball second time is easier then first!!!
 
When I visited the UK all those years ago I was astonished and amazed that people always have an umbrella with themselves even on a sunny day. Seemed quite odd to me.

but it is kinda similar to Canada where you always have a light jacket near you even during the summer months (although we are experiencing an "indian summer" this year)
 
Would love to see us do to England what they did to us in the previous test.

Keep them out in the field for two whole days. Exhaust them and demoralize them.
 
zoro said:
Your too good a poster to write what you have.

1. There was no run on, ball went straight to the fieder!
Azhar ran because he got rattled by woake's bouncer in previous delivery!
Instead of behaving as a senior and protecting the youngster, he sacrificed the youngster to save his own neck!

2. sami didnt shout out no becos there was no run on and was shocked to see that azhar was already half way down the track and a youngster can not run out a senior in pak cricket. Seniority comes first no matter what!

3.sami would have been the youngest opener ever to score a century in england.
sami didnt even look like he was going to get out!
God only knows how much sami could have scored 100 , 150 , 200?
azhar already had 2 dropped catches but sami didnt give england a sniff!
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I have no idea where this senior junior narrative is coming from.

I have watched this 3 times now. In slow motion. They both set off at the same time and there's no hesitation. This is a suicidal run and there's no moment of consideration or late start from Sami. If anything Azhar is the one who hesitated slightly while Sami went straight.
 
[MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=66397]Green[/MENTION]Roars [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] Pakistan will keep batting until Afridi announces his retirement!!!
 
I won't mind if this is end of today's play. This has been an amazing day apart from one run out
 
I suppose if play does not resume in 15 minutes that's that for the day. England will start tomorrow with the new ball (available after 1 over)
 
Nice to see a visiting team put England under pressure.

Only Aus did it in more than 2 Test recently. Pak is doing it now.

Always thought England bowlers do not bowl well then chips are down. They bowl well when a decision or two goes in their way.
If Pak does not lose another wicket today, expect England to crumble badly when they come out to bat too in 2nd innings.
 
troodon said:
Nice to see a visiting team put England under pressure.

Only Aus did it in more than 2 Test recently. Pak is doing it now.

Always thought England bowlers do not bowl well then chips are down. They bowl well when a decision or two goes in their way.
If Pak does not lose another wicket today, expect England to crumble badly when they come out to bat too in 2nd innings.
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Hopefully that will be on the 4th day and on a turning pitch.
 
shaz619 said:
[MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=66397]Green[/MENTION]Roars [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] Pakistan will keep batting until Afridi announces his retirement!!!
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rofl rofl we need HBK to come out of retirement to end Afridis career.

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MMHS said:
Boss, still the fact remains same - Sami should have stopped his partner (& should have risked a slap at the end of today's play). AND, he wasn't ready, he wasn't backing & he was holding bat loosely while running & he didn't dive.

Being rattled is no shame - that's why you steal singles & hide at other end. Even Viv Richards did that; that's the way you build partnership. Sami was doing that whole morning so nicely & could have got a chance less 100, may be even 200.

Now I am enjoying Kathak Dance free, let me enjoy.
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Enjoy kathak dance free , and we will have to agree to disagree about whether there was a run on or not and whose fault the run out was.
And a youngster can not run out a senior approacihing a century , in pak team, cos he will NEVER play again!
 
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