England v Pakistan | 3rd Test | Birmingham | Aug 3-7, 2016 | Day 4

[ViciousMachine]

Because this is outside the subcontinent and the bowling attack is much better.

Thank you!! It is like people think "I scored a 100 in 20 balls in tape ball cricket in my backyard, why cant they do the same????"

 

[Abdul]

He's a loser who goes into hiding when Pakistan does well and then appears like a cockroach out of nowhere when they have a bad day.

Most of the Indians are like that barring few.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

He's a loser who goes into hiding when Pakistan does well and then appears like a cockroach out of nowhere when they have a bad day.

I appreciate d Pakistan batting well . You can check it in the match thread

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Azhar Ali is a better LOI bowler than Yasir

 

[#GreenRoars]

more like won.

Nope, seems England will play tomorrow's 1st session and then they will declare. Nothing in this pitch, Pak can survive 2 sessions easily.

 

[Hasan123]

Again - like my fishing. Always my wife knows that the biggest one slipped away.

The way people are hyping Yamin, like PAK has left Keith Millar at home. He is a 120km dibly dobly without any skill with new ball, and you want him to bat at 6.

One reason PAK is in top 3 in Test (could be even 1) & 9th (could remain there for 3 more years), because Test is still almost unchanged - PAK uses the most fundamental formation - 6 ballebaaz & 4 genbaaz; I am more comfortable to keep it simple like that only 5 ballebaaz & 5 genbaaz.

Playing all-rounder is a combination game, for which you need Captain in field. Coach with a lap top can't instruct Captain in charge - bring Yamin now, bowl Azhar for 3 overs against wind, use YK as 1st change .......

Yamin can bat at 7 bro. The way he will improve his bowling by actually bowling. Also there aren't many options. You are screening for an all rounder when I give you one who could do well with proper time and investment, you dismiss him straight away.

 

[street cricketer]

Yes some Indians like you will obviously be relishing these moments!

It goes both sides.

Pak fans do the same for Ashwin.

 

[BleedGreen]

Pak will be 30-4 at lunch tomorrow lol

 

[Hasan123]

Azhar Ali is a better LOI bowler than Yasir

Can remember he dismissed Williamson and Guptill in the odis vs new zeeland.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Calm down man.

Every one is not cool like me

 

[imshally81]

Younis is better option than yasir right now

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[geraltofrivia]

Nope, seems England will play tomorrow's 1st session and then they will declare. Nothing in this pitch, Pak can survive 2 sessions easily.

Won't do the entirety of the session. Maybe 10 overs of slogging. That gives around 75-80 overs.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Nope, seems England will play tomorrow's 1st session and then they will declare. Nothing in this pitch, Pak can survive 2 sessions easily.

England will only play 5 overs ,score 40 more and start our exam. There is no place to hide.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

England will declare overnight so we'll be chasing whatever they score today.

 

[ViciousMachine]

Well, those are 3 decent overs in a row for us. Only 8 runs off last 3. If we can bowl tight to end of day, Cook may come back to bat tomorrow.

 

[JibranAnsari]

If england want they can easily score 700 here.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Every one is not cool like me

Hats off to you Roary . Some posters don't understand that's it part of the rivalry and not serious They need to lighten up.

 

[ViciousMachine]

England will declare overnight so we'll be chasing whatever they score today.

This is the key. But will Cook, the guy who did not enforce the follow on in the second test really do this? Dangle a carrot? I do not see it. I see them batting tomorrow (unless they got completely crazy these last 20 deliveries).

 

[marlonbrowndo]

England will declare overnight so we'll be chasing whatever they score today.

How can you be so sure? I think Cook will bat for half an hour tomorrow in the first session and tell hus batsmen to slog.

 

[The_Odd_One]

This is heading to a draw.

England will bat another 15-20 overs tomorrow and even if Pakistan's batting collapses, they should still be able to survive the 5th day.

Overall not a bad result for Pakistan

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Can remember he dismissed Williamson and Guptill in the odis vs new zeeland.

Was a very good spell that brought us back into the game before Bowden screwed us

 

[Markhor]

England fans really wearing out the "Please don't take me home" song. Give it a rest !

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

England won't declare overnight.

Last few overs they didn't slog.

Lead is 300.

Tomorrow 5 overs and lead of 330 and then they will declare.

 

[street cricketer]

Don't expect Cook to declare overnight. He's no Clarke.

 

[The_Odd_One]

If england want they can easily score 700 here.

And how will that help England?

 

[castortroy]

Pak even on the flattest deck won't score more than 2 rpo so suprised cook is continuing

 

[Jabo]

Just looked at the score

England have just totally wrecked us

Won't be surprised if we collapse tomorrow and lose this

 

[Mamoon]

Bairstow the best WK batsman in Test cricket at the moment without question.

Has been England's man of the summer.

 

[geraltofrivia]

This is heading to a draw.

England will bat another 15-20 overs tomorrow and even if Pakistan's batting collapses, they should still be able to survive the 5th day.

Overall not a bad result for Pakistan

I am guessing around 10. Lead is already 303 with 3 overs to go. Will prolly be 320 by end of today. 10 overs of slogging means 380-400 target in around 75 overs (rr 5).

 

[Mamoon]

Once again, our overrated bowling has been exposed.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Don't expect Cook to declare overnight. He's no Clarke.

This pitch has turned into a batting paradise. Only a very brave captain will declare without getting a lead of at least 340.

 

[street cricketer]

Moeen Lara won't be dropped after this game.

Tough luck Rashid.

 

[castortroy]

Pak will crumble tomorrow

They will be in block mode and inevitable will snick off

 

[geraltofrivia]

Either way I don't see it being a safe draw. Pakistan will lose or just about manage to save it by 2 wickets or something.

 

[troodon]

Yasir averaging 27.2 now.

The average will only climb once he tours Aus and SA.

Yasir is still a wonderful bowler.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Misbah gives up way too easily, reminds me of Dhoni

 

[castortroy]

Azhar spins the ball more than shah

 

[Cricketrenew]

Do not expect a draw game was lost yesterday

 

[street cricketer]

This pitch has turned into a batting paradise. Only a very brave captain will declare without getting a lead of at least 340.

Don't say that loud. I got ripped apart for saying the same with a lead of 270.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Once again, our overrated bowling has been exposed.

Let's wait and see how English bowlers perform tomorrow. What would you say if Pakistan end the 5th day with 250/4?

 

[BleedGreen]

England will bat 5 overs tomorrow, score 350 then declare.

 

[castortroy]

Pak will inevitable be 40/3

 

[Adijazz1706]

Why haven't England attacked these last 5 overs? 2 of the most defensive captains in the world going at each other

 

[Hasan123]

Was a very good spell that brought us back into the game before Bowden screwed us

Hahaha correct bro. Pathetic umpiring cost us in that game.

 

[shaaik]

Never - it's back to back Test & 4th in less than 5 weeks. PAK won't finish with 4 bowlers on their feet if they pick only 4. It's a 2 innings match which is won by bowlers. For 20 overs game, one can pick 9 "All-rounders".

Depends on the outcome of this test. If we manage to draw it then I think management will take a safer route and don't tinkle much with the batting and take the draw in oval too and draw the series.

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[Nikhil_cric]

The average will only climb once he tours Aus and SA.

Yasir is still a wonderful bowler.

Yep. Just being over bowled by Misbah IMO .

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Moeen Lara won't be dropped after this game.

Tough luck Rashid.

Youre Indian. Dont you mean Moeenlitharan?

 

[MMHS]

Yamin can bat at 7 bro. The way he will improve his bowling by actually bowling. Also there aren't many options. You are screening for an all rounder when I give you one who could do well with proper time and investment, you dismiss him straight away.

Because, I don't see him doing any hoodo in England.

Look, the strategy is simple - you play 4 bowlers, 2 of them has to be like Mac or Hadlee or Ambi - can't get wicket, no problem bowl 38-15-75-1.
Or play 3-2-1 combination. 3 bowlers with batting skills like Chandrashekhar or Walshi; 2 bowling all-rounders (one like Yamin/Nawaz, one may be Aamad) & a batsman who can bowl 15 overs. PAK hasn't brought anything like that.

Options are keeping MoHa puffed, or bring Iftekhar. None is encouraging proposition to be honest. So, for Oval, play 5 bowlers, as simple as that.

Going forward, in UAE against WI - play Nawaz & Aamad/Yamin + Yasir, Aamir + Ashghar/Babar/Rahat. That's 5 bowlers & depending on wicket 3 spinners or pacers. I would like PCB to man up and put some grass in the wicket so that team is not gang ra**d in 1st Test at Hamilton, going straight from UAE roads.

Babar, Sami
Azhar, YK, Asad, Sarfy,
Nawaz, Aamad/Yamin,
Aamir, Yasir, Rahat

Or Azhar swapping with Babar & YK with Misbah.

Bring it on .

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Azhar spins the ball more than shah

Used to be a genuine spinner.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Don't say that loud. I got ripped apart for saying the same with a lead of 270.

Honestly 300 is more than enough and England can declare right now forcing Pakistani batsmen to face a couple of overs today but most of the captains like to play safe specially when there is still another test left.

 

[BleedGreen]

Sarfaraz opens tomorrow and scores a century - the only chance Pak have of winning

 

[JibranAnsari]

And how will that help England?

Just saying that it is that easy for them.

 

[street cricketer]

Gonna be absolute carnage tomorrow morning followed by a declaration.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

This is the key. But will Cook, the guy who did not enforce the follow on in the second test really do this? Dangle a carrot? I do not see it. I see them batting tomorrow (unless they got completely crazy these last 20 deliveries).

How can you be so sure? I think Cook will bat for half an hour tomorrow in the first session and tell hus batsmen to slog.

If I were Cook, I'd want the second new ball.

 

[Prince_]

This is absolutely ridiculous. Pak won't be able to score 150 let alone scoring over 300 on a 5th day wicket. Why is he so defensive? Shamebolic captaincy from cook.

 

[ViciousMachine]

Tough day for team green. Hopefully they can rest up and fight hard tomorrow and get a good draw.

 

[Ab Fan]

Eng will wait for the century from Bairstow and then declare. I think they are eyeing for 350 lead with 80 overs to go till they declare.

 

[ViciousMachine]

If I were Cook, I'd want the second new ball.

That is a smart captain (or a Clarke/McCullum). Cook is way too defensive (remember the follow-on in the second test).

We will find out tomorrow morning regardless.

 

[The_Odd_One]

This is absolutely ridiculous. Pak won't be able to score 150 let alone scoring over 300 on a 5th day wicket. Why is he so defensive? Shamebolic captaincy from cook.

No, Pakistan is no India.

 

[BleedGreen]

Ahhh

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

i'll declare now, but eng cowards, its their game..

 

[street cricketer]

Youre Indian. Dont you mean Moeenlitharan?

This is Pakistan's match going on.

Moeen turns into Lara against Pakistan and Muralitharan against India. Mutant all rounder

 

[ViciousMachine]

Eng will wait for the century from Bairstow and then declare. I think they are eyeing for 350 lead with 80 overs to go till they declare.

That is my gut feeling too. Which is ok with me. It is almost the best case scenario for Pak at this stage. Plus if we get it down to 80 overs, no second new ball, which will be huge. Our final 4 would not survive more than a couple overs against a new ball.

 

[MMHS]

Depends on the outcome of this test. If we manage to draw it then I think management will take a safer route and don't tinkle much with the batting and take the draw in oval too and draw the series.

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Who tells you that 6 batsmen saves a Test? Oval is a true wicket - if England bats first, they might race to 600 at 4/overs - then PAK 'll fight for 12.5 sessions to save the Test, which they are not good at.

If PAK bats first, ENG might get them all-out for 400 by lunch on Day 2, then they'll bat for days & and leave PAK to save it for 5 sessions, again not encouraging with a tail that starts from No. 8 (& 1).

3rd option is taking out draw - target to win it in 4 days. Tell me the last Test outside Asia, that PAK has taken it to Day 5?

 

[Adijazz1706]

Because this is outside the subcontinent and the bowling attack is much better.

The pitch is quite flat and the spinner is Moeen not Herath, I'd be surprised if Cook doesn't bat 6-7 overs to get to 350 leaving us 80 overs to go at over 4 an over.

 

[troodon]

This is absolutely ridiculous. Pak won't be able to score 150 let alone scoring over 300 on a 5th day wicket. Why is he so defensive? Shamebolic captaincy from cook.

Cook is always defensive.

 

[Markhor]

Bairstow-Ali partnership has taken victory away from us.

 

[Adil_94]

Cook will wait till England get 330-350 lead and let Bairstow get his ton.

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