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Amjid Javed

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England looking to wrap up the series in the 2nd Test. trent bridge usually does help the swing bowlers alot. Interestingly W.I have never lost a test at this venue.
 
WI were terrific in the first test, I think England would have got a good dressing down since first test and I expect them to convincingly beat them in this test.

Have the WI brought any specialist spinner, should play Shillingford really although I think Narine and Bishoo are better than him.
 
Windies win the toss.

If they put up 400 in these batting conditions then they can put our batsmen under pressure on the 2nd and 3rd day and give England a really good game.

I kind of wish we were batting because of the awesome weather, but we will get our chance.

Come on Jimmy and Broady!! If England can get Windies out for 250 then England can get a lead.

Great day to play cricket. Wonderful.
 
I say Shillingford will definitely murder Ian Bell in both innings. He can't play the doosra
 
Barath 0 (12) c Anderson b Broad

Anderson picks a flier out of the air at third slip with his weaker hand.

Genius catch from a psycho fielder.
 
Could drive a bus through the gap between Kirk's bat and pad! As it is, Jimmy just bowled a ball through it and hit the off-stump. 26/2
 
James said:
Could drive a bus through the gap between Kirk's bat and pad! As it is, Jimmy just bowled a ball through it and hit the off-stump. 26/2
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Seems like Jimmy has perfected that Asif delivery with wobbling seam.

Also Powell has played some nice shots so far.
 
Cahnders again hiding behind the top order and score the runs with the tail..not a good strategy.. chanders at 3 could have been more useful in holding the innings together
 
I seriously dont understand what is Shiv doing the order. he is WI's best batsman and should be playing up. Exposing young inexperienced batsman again and again is not working, so many mistakes and not one realization.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Cahnders again hiding behind the top order and score the runs with the tail..not a good strategy.. chanders at 3 could have been more useful in holding the innings together
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He's there by the 10th over anyways, so what's he hiding from? Chanders is right, youngsters can only learn from being out at No 3 or 4, not at No 6.
 
truthseer said:
He's there by the 10th over anyways, so what's he hiding from? Chanders is right, youngsters can only learn from being out at No 3 or 4, not at No 6.
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He is good enough to bat at three and be more useful to the team and can teach the young batsmen around hum. By the time he comes WI are already 3 down. There is no substitute and better learning than batting with the experienced batsmen himself.
 
Pathetic decision by Rauf chearled by Botham, both looking silly, way over the top.

Windies top order is a joke making England bowlers look unplayable.

Different story against Shiva.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Pathetic decision by Rauf chearled by Botham, both looking silly, way over the top.

Windies top order is a joke making England bowlers look unplayable.

Different story against Shiva.
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A lot better than our batsmen play in 2010..:farhat
 
England bowlers/fielders have done well to take 4 wickets in these conditions.

A batting day if ever there was one.
 
Samuels is a very good player of spin. Once again these two need a 100+ partnership to give Wndies any chance of a decent first innings score. It's a hot day so if they can hang around the bowlers will tire out. England will be thinking a wicket here opens up the lower order.

Trent Bridge looks a picture. Perfect arena and perfect weather for test cricket.

Yes Warne all black people look the same. Samuels looks nothing like Tiger Woods. :))
 
Listening to Sir Viv on TMS, what would the Windies give for him to be out there in his prime smashing the ball everywhere? :)
 
W.I 89/4

Once again Shiv has to bail W.I out of trouble
 
Swann you beauty!


Rauf looking less than the usual excellence.
 
That is a *fantastic* ball! Conditions not at all conducive to turn, and Swann gets one to seriously bite. Back leg, about as dead as it gets.

Thank God for DRS.

Rauf having a shocker.
 
Bresnan looks very mediocre today. I only think he was chosen over Finn because of his record and on the hope that the ball might swing seeing as Bresnan is a better swing bowler than Finn. And just as I say that, short ball legside goes for 4, called byes, but that's harsh.
 
Mega-wide leg side ball goes for four.

Bresnan looks out of form to me.

Meanwhile, Rauf can't even call byes as wides properly today. Very harsh on Prior.
 
James said:
Mega-wide leg side ball goes for four.

Bresnan looks out of form to me.

Meanwhile, Rauf can't even call byes as wides properly today. Very harsh on Prior.
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Terribly out of form, I guess coming in and out of injury has been difficult for him.

I'd like Finn or Onions in. I kind of would even punt on Onions before Finn too, mainly because Onions looked World-class on and off when he was fit, and if he's on, I think he's an excellent bowler.


Edit : And while I'm typing this, I hear cheers, and then see Bresnan getting one lol.
 
Should be Finn. He is a gun for the long term and his test record is fantastic, even in Australia where he got 'rested'.

For the selectors, clearly a lot of sentimental value attached to Bresnan because of the Ashes and the talismanic thing

Fair play to Bres for that wicket though.
 
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Anything under 250 is woeful under these batting conditions, anything under 200 begs the question if the Windies are better served by asking their U-19 team to bat. Very little swing, and little spin, how do you manage to get out?
 
Bresnan is bowling pretty poorly. Lovely shortish ball on legside... Well, lovely if you want to clip it for 4.
 
Yeah to be fair this is the kind of pitch and weather conditions that a batsman would like to pack up into a box and take around the world with him.

Stunning how the Windies have lost 6 wickets - and they could have lost even more to be honest. England were all over them in the morning session.
 
England are beating up a minnow here but fair play to them, they can only beat the opposition presented in front of them.
 
Trott on for a trundle. Too early to start playing for the new ball surely?
 
Wonderful cover drives by Samuels. Shiv is the most consistent but Samuels is easily the best all round stroke-player in the team. He should be batting at 4.

300 would be a decent effort for WI.
 
I think they tried Samuels at that number 4 position, but hasn't worked much really.
 
I will keep Bravo at 3, Chander at 4, Samuels at 5 and Kirk Edwards at 6.
 
What on earth so many discussions is about!!? Just keep bowling.
 
Trott on now to play Collingwood. Though Collingwood would have picked up Samuels with a ridiculously innocuous ball by now.
 
WOW WI is scoring runs effortlessly! 100 Run partnership :bow:

This is 400+ runs pitch though.
 
Wow, I thought WI would do well to get to 200 at one point, but now 300-325 a possibility. :14:

P.S. This is not a jinx post. :))
 
Excellent fight back however this pitch is flat as a pancake and anything under 350 and WI will be in trouble.
 
Samuel is batting well both in previous game and this one. Guess IPL stint before the test series must have helped him. I had never seen him playing like this, especially in test, before this series.
 
WHY ARE you wasting TIME ENGLAND?

It's a NEW Ball! Just keep bowling on good line/length! Stop showing desperation.
 
Anderson is sooo unlucky this over. Two edges, one play and a miss, and an LBW call that could be given.
 
Sammy's been beaten by Anderson like 72 times so far out of the 20 or so deliveries he's faced him.
 
100 up for Marlon Samuels.

A fantastic player banned by fixing but redeems himself in England ?

It could happen again couldn't it ?
 
Ruri said:
Still such a flat pitch that it'd be just about par.
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100 more runs and Shillingford will come in to play. Let's see! but it will be terrible sight to watch Trott and Cook bat for 2 days.
 
What an innings by Samuels! This guy is one to watch for in the coming years.

Windies looking better than Pakistan in 2010 and India in 2011.
 
No 8 windies dominating No 1 team. This shows England is just like any other good team. :face palm: to Indian players for getting whitewashed by this England team.
 
Samuels, we want a double hundred now!


Samuels: Got it!
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Excellent batting by these two. Sammy proving his haters wrong and Samuels proving his last innings wasn't a one-off.
 
madaboutcricket said:
No 8 windies dominating No 1 team. This shows England is just like any other good team. :face palm: to Indian players for getting whitewashed by this England team.
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Dominating? By the last session it looked like they were on par with the pitch and a bit lucky to not have lost more. Was a good windies session but not domination of anything except Bresnan.
 
Windies on top. It's a bit unreal, never thought they'd get to this sort of position. But they're well placed for at around 400 now looks like it bar a sudden collapse. What's pleased me too is both have stayed till the end of the day. None have thrown their wicket away before close.

Little shell shocked. Very impressed with samuels, and sammy's been very good too.

What's more for once the WI bowlers will have runs to work with. And are probably fielding their best bowling attack with Rampaul and Shillingford back.
 
Ruri said:
Dominating? By the last session it looked like they were on par with the pitch and a bit lucky to not have lost more. Was a good windies session but not domination of anything except Bresnan.
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it's not domination but West Indies are on top. You can see the fustration from the english bowlers, they had them at 136-6 and now they've got an extra 170 runs without loss of a wicket.

Even if it's a good batting conditions, I'm amazed sammy has managed 88 runs. Sure he's had more luck than Samuels for example, but a bowler in foreign conditions, conditions which the West Indies have typically struggled with in recent memory, has racked up 88 runs helping them to rescue them from a dire situation where they were facing perhaps 200 all out.
 
6-300 is a long way from being on top, it's an easy track and the windies bowling looks thin.

I don't see how you can see either team is clearly on top right now.
 
Ruri said:
Dominating? By the last session it looked like they were on par with the pitch and a bit lucky to not have lost more. Was a good windies session but not domination of anything except Bresnan.
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Dude, 300+ for 6 at the end of first day of a test match is a very good score. From here they have very good chance of getting over 400+. Yes they did not dominate the whole day but after the setback at the beginning, they have done very well for the last 50 overs or so.
 
trogger said:
6-300 is a long way from being on top, it's an easy track and the windies bowling looks thin.

I don't see how you can see either team is clearly on top right now.
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Now pitch is flat when England bowlers struggled to get the lower order batsman out?

So English bowlers always need pitch that helps the bowler to get the batsman out?
 
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madaboutcricket said:
Dude, 300+ for 6 at the end of first day of a test match is a very good score. From here they have very good chance of getting over 400+. Yes they did not dominate the whole day but after the setback at the beginning, they have done very well for the last 50 overs or so.
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Good score and on par yes. But on par doesn't mean domination so much as on top. I agree that Windies won the day. But you're making it seem like England's were crushed.

I'm a bit bitter because Sammy deserves to be out... 7 overs ago. I'd buy a lottery ticket with his luck in edges, wafts and marginal lbw call he's faced in the past 8 overs.
 
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