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England vs Australia | 1st Ashes Test | Nottingham | 14/7/13 | Day 5

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That spot was there, before the ball reached the bat!
yes seems that way but I think it is because of the frames and the gap between them seems to give that illusion. Sure looks that way though but what can cause it?
From front it appears once the ball gets to the bat.
 
Can't wait for the 2nd test.

Jimmy Anderson was outstanding, a great bowler, best in the world at the moment.
 
We'll give this one to the Pommies. Could have gone either way. Given the fact that our team is in a state of disarray I'm not that unhappy with the result.
 
Yes, but is that enough to over-turn an original decision of not-out?

I think so. Another day it might not have been given out, but on review there was clearly a noise.
 
Snicko confirmed the edge.


Doesn't matter. The 3rd umpire doesn't get that. As I said before there was an edge but you need conclusive evidence to overrule the on field call, which was not there. The benefit of doubt went to England as has been the case throughout this test, except that Agar's stumping.
 
I was surprised with a such a loud sound, why was there even a doubt ? One of the easiest decisions for Erasmus.
 
Great game Australia. Nail biting and tense. Excellent tail you have got.



and our bowlers needs to be flogged. They can't expect to be carried by Jimmy in every match. He bowled 13 overs on the trot... and then had to come back to pick up the last and every wicket to fall today? Disgraceful by our bowlers.
 
Doesn't matter. The 3rd umpire doesn't get that. As I said before there was an edge but you need conclusive evidence to overrule the on field call, which was not there. The benefit of doubt went to England as has been throughout this test.

That's not true though is it? Agar stumping and the Trott dismissal.
 
I thought that was out real-time. The bat was so far away from pad, there was no doubt in that!

Well done Jimmy! Can we have a faster track at Lords please !
 
I was surprised with a such a loud sound, why was there even a doubt ? One of the easiest decisions for Erasmus.

Definitely.

the Aussies realise it was out. Others are sooking on their behalf again. Which is interesting.
 
Great drama, packed stadium, intense cricket and controversial moments. Great advert for test cricket.
 
England should hand over the Man of the Match award to DRS. There was no way, you could give that out. Shame.
 
Absouletely loved that reaction from Flower at end with Bresnan. It is rare one sees him so expressive.
 
That's not true though is it? Agar stumping and the Trott dismissal.

The 3rd umpire went on with the available technology in the Trott's dismissal. Here he didn't. Do you see a lack of consistency? DRS needs a big overhaul and that's apparent to anybody who's not a sheep.
 
Great match, kudos to both teams (and the umpires?) for 5 days of gripping theatre.
 
Definitely.

the Aussies realise it was out. Others are sooking on their behalf again. Which is interesting.
Dar played very safe there. It was like he knew it was out but wanted England to go and get that decision for themselves as they had 2 reviews left. The sookers and bitters are getting to him :P
 
I was surprised with a such a loud sound, why was there even a doubt ? One of the easiest decisions for Erasmus.

There was no conclusive evidence to overrule the on field. If it was given out by the on field umpire then it would have been ok. But sound alone is not enough to overturn the on field call. The sound can come from anywhere.
 
Definitely.

the Aussies realise it was out. Others are sooking on their behalf again. Which is interesting.

Yea it was out, but your sphincters must've been tightening mate :P
 
Haddin looked despondent and loosened his helmet if you watch it back. He knew.
 
BTW great advert for test cricket. Thoroughly enjoyed the whole game. Hope the rest of the series goes the same way.
 
Definitely.

the Aussies realise it was out. Others are sooking on their behalf again. Which is interesting.

Hah, English fans have to be the biggest hypocrites on the planet. After sooking endlessly over the one, not so obvious decision on day 1, now they care two hoots about the semantics of DRS or when it should be used appropriately. When you complain, it's to uphold the spirit of the game and to review the system, but hey when the results go in your favor, then everyone else is sooking
 
hah, english fans have to be the biggest hypocrites on the planet. After sooking endlessly over the one, not so obvious decision on day 1, now they care two hoots about the semantics of drs or when it should be used appropriately. When you complain, it's to uphold the spirit of the game and to review the system, but hey when the results go in your favor, then everyone else is sooking

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Hah, English fans have to be the biggest hypocrites on the planet. After sooking endlessly over the one, not so obvious decision on day 1, now they care two hoots about the semantics of DRS or when it should be used appropriately. When you complain, it's to uphold the spirit of the game and to review the system, but hey when the results go in your favor, then everyone else is sooking
Mate the pecking order...

India > England > Australia
 
There was no conclusive evidence to overrule the on field. If it was given out by the on field umpire then it would have been ok. But sound alone is not enough to overturn the on field call. The sound can come from anywhere.
You are wrong. When the bat isn't close to pad or the gound, you understand where that sound came from. The 3rd umpire considers the sound, deviation of the ball among other factors before making a final decision.
 
The sole purpose of DRS should be removing howlers. Let batting, balling and fielding decide the outcome of a match and not how you use DRS. It should never be a strategic weapon.
 
The 3rd umpire went on with the available technology in the Trott's dismissal. Here he didn't. Do you see a lack of consistency? DRS needs a big overhaul and that's apparent to anybody who's not a sheep.


The point is, not all decisions went England's way. Had DRS been working properly Trott was not out as it was proven he nicked it. Agar could have been given out. Australia might have been chasing 500 rather then 311.
 
It was pretty obviously out.

Typical that it took a review to do it though. Should have being paid the first time.
 
You certainly do. Care enough to hide during match time when your team is not doing well and always coming out gloating only when your team wins. Pity

Not really, i just said Australia played well, they were unlucky. I just find it amusing to laugh at bitter Indian losers who are just gutted that they'll never be part of a series this special, and are still bitter about the humiliation the England test side has inflicted on their so called superstars.
 
not really, i just said australia played well, they were unlucky. I just find it amusing to laugh at bitter indian losers who are just gutted that they'll never be part of a series this special, and are still bitter about the humiliation the england test side has inflicted on their so called superstars.

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The point is, not all decisions went England's way. Had DRS been working properly Trott was not out as it was proven he nicked it. Agar could have been given out. Australia might have been chasing 500 rather then 311.

I have seen enough of DRS to form an opinion that there is never going to be consistency in how you use it. The whole "on field call" and "third umpire's interpretation" thingy needs to be amended. If you are going to rely on technology rely on it fully like a robot. The mixing of technology and human judgement is what causing all the problems.
 
Effectively, the DRS did everything in this match other than what it is designed for - eliminate the most glaring howler.
 
Yeah I dunno about giving it. But the third umpire has taken it upon himself to play god this match with Trott and Haddin. I don't like it indeed.

Relieved we won though. The more I think about it.... Finn being there made me feel like we deserved to not cross the line but at least the old campaigner Jimmy got through. He deserved 10.
 
DRS is great. ..

Umpires and players just need to learn to use it properly.
 
DRS is great. ..

Umpires and players just need to learn to use it properly.


IMO the players should never be involved in it. I like the old fashion cricket where your performance on the field with bat and ball decide the outcome of the match and not how you use DRS. DRS should be there to correct the howlers, no matter how many of them are there. There should not be a fixed number of reviews and the players should not have a say in it.
 
Not really, i just said Australia played well, they were unlucky. I just find it amusing to laugh at bitter Indian losers who are just gutted that they'll never be part of a series this special, and are still bitter about the humiliation the England test side has inflicted on their so called superstars.

Bitter? Not me. I was man enough to come and face all the "bitter humiliation" after all the losses. Always stand up for my team, through thick and thin, that's me. Never ditch my team and go into hiding, always up to face whatever is thrown at me

And yes, we Indians will never be part of a series involving Australia and England, shocking news that
 
Who said M S Dhoni cannot win the Ashes? He just won the first test by 3 wickets! #DRS
 
DRS is great. ..

Umpires and players just need to learn to use it properly.

DRS should only be used to over-turn obvious howlers. Just like unpire's call is there in LBW, umpire's calls should also stand in close hot-spot too
 
DRS should only be used to over-turn obvious howlers. Just like unpire's call is there in LBW, umpire's calls should also stand in close hot-spot too

I agree.

Unless snicko was clear he shouldn't have been given
 
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