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England vs Pakistan | 1st Test | Lord's, London | May 24-28, 2018 | Day 2 | Match Thread

MMHS said:
One good thing is these two are going after the ball, which is right approach - another 50-60, Poms would be in desperate situation. They are not likely to improve much from 1st innings.
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I think they will struggle to reach 300 so a lead of about 120 would be a winner for Pakistan.
 
Can anybody tell me how badly is Babar Azam injured ?
Will he bat again in this innings and in 2nd Innings ?
 
But but but we were told by media experts in Pakistan that the lack of experience will count against them. 2 inexperienced players taking the attack to England . :shh
 
Shadab’s batting set up is a bit like Nasser Hussain: gets very low, not good for your knuckles
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I think they will struggle to reach 300 so a lead of about 120 would be a winner for Pakistan.
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Depends on how Babar is - remember, this ENG attack is led by combined age of almost 72 years and 250 Tests, it won't have that bite with 25 overs old ball and 100+ overs work load. Had Sarfraz survived the temptation, it was possible to reach 450 (without Babar hurting). Next time Root brings the kid to bowl spin, he'll have some reality checking.
 
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PM is in attendance.
 
Good intent in defence and attack by these to. If both could get 50 each that would be great.
 
Effectively, 6 down [babar doesn't look like he can come back], and maybe it's me that it feels more like 8 down.

Two new boys against a new ball attack of Anderson/Broad.

If they can score 20 something each, it'll be a baby achievement.

[In other news, Wasim talking about neckties in a child talking cooingly about colorful lights way. ]
 
Looks like its two paracetamol and some ice for Babar.

Hope its just bruising.
 
Faheem’s List A average of 15 is a fluke.

He is a ~35 averaging batsman.
 
Shadab could bat at 6 in Tests for us if he continues to develop his batting.

Sarfraz demoted down to 7 with Ashraf at 8.
 
Sarwar89 said:
Markhor said:
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PM is in attendance.[/QUOTE
Good to see Pakistan team restoring its respect in Test arena.
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It's probably tradition - I saw Lady Di at Lord's. PCB accepted to send a team of 15 names I can recall after 17 years, to give Poms practice before Ashes, now they are doing it for the serious event of 5 Test Series against the team losing 7 of last 9 Test there - so, obviously, restoring respect isn't PCB's agenda.

I think, team was always respected, particularly in ENG.
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Third Man said:
Difficult to say. There’s been no update since. Looked quite painful, though.
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He's not requiring Xrays at the moment

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MMHS said:
Depends on how Babar is - remember, this ENG attack is led by combined age of almost 72 years and 250 Tests, it won't have that bite with 25 overs old ball and 100+ overs work load. Had Sarfraz survived the temptation, it was possible to reach 450 (without Babar hurting). Next time Root brings the kid to bowl spin, he'll have some reality checking.
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Are you impressed with shadab and Fahim approach??
 
Hope babar can hold bat and come out again this inns.
 
Lefthanded said:
Sarwar89 said:
According to cricinfo, she loves Test cricket.

And if you were in her shoes? If you just got MCC membership, you'd take the afternoon off, and run off to Lord's if your team was playing whoever. And not have to work.
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Considering what’s been going on with ‘work’ for the last couple of years, this a friendly crowd to be a part of.
No chants of ‘Oh Jeremy Corbyn!!’
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Fahim drives through cover better than many of UAE model, but his defense is poor - plays too much in air to be a genuine No. 6.
 
20 odd overs to go, but maybe they're better of trying to survive if Babar could play tomorrow.
 
If Faheem can get 40 more runs at 135+ SR. I think he will average 100+ with a SR of 100+ in Test cricket. I hope he stays Not Out.
 
84% Pakistan, 5% England, 5% Draw. From Wiz.

Think it's too optimistic too soon.
 
Lefthanded said:
20 odd overs to go, but maybe they're better of trying to survive if Babar could play tomorrow.
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Both'll get out quickly.

Once someone asked Viv (?), if his Test SR was 60 instead of 75, could his average reached 60? Viv, said, that means I'll have to play (survive) 3000+ balls to score whatever I had - no thanks.

Young, players should be encouraged to play their natural game - if they are asked to slow down and gets out, they'll never get the confidence back.
 
[MENTION=141767]Lefthanded[/MENTION] - its either an afternoon at the cricket at Lord's or another painstaking Brexit cabinet debate.

Not a difficult decision !
 
It would be great if these hang around long enough so we can give Babar the night to recover from his blow.

Batting conditions tomorrow are expected to be good especially with dry weather forecast - get another hour of batting tomorrow morning and we're in full control.
 
MMHS said:
Both'll get out quickly.

Once someone asked Viv (?), if his Test SR was 60 instead of 75, could his average reached 60? Viv, said, that means I'll have to play (survive) 3000+ balls to score whatever I had - no thanks.

Young, players should be encouraged to play their natural game - if they are asked to slow down and gets out, they'll never get the confidence back.
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You're always there with good anecdotes. Thanks for the post.
 
Markhor said:
It would be great if these hang around long enough so we can give Babar the night to recover from his blow.

Batting conditions tomorrow are expected to be good especially with dry weather forecast - get another hour of batting tomorrow morning and we're in full control.
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One of Faheem/Shadab will score a century. i am certain.
 
Markhor said:
It would be great if these hang around long enough so we can give Babar the night to recover from his blow.

Batting conditions tomorrow are expected to be good especially with dry weather forecast - get another hour of batting tomorrow morning and we're in full control.
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If these two bat out the day, then they should be allowed to continue tomorrow as day 3 will be good to bat on. Ideally PCT bats through tomorrow then spin will come into play on days four and five-where Shadab could wreak havoc.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
So you thought UAE model Asad Shafiq did not play well?
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That's the biggest myth in PAK cricket. Asad would have been twice the player had he played all these Tests out side UAE. For a record, you can check - PAK players get the chance to play an away (out side Asia) Test once in a blue moon, thanks to PCB, that too 2/3 Tests max; still he has at least 3 top class innings at Gabba, Cape Town, UK. I always say Asad is the best driver of modern game, easily best from PAK since MoYo - he should enjoy most on true, pacy wicket. next time, when he bats again, hope Athers & Nasser are commenting (Not Rambo FGS) - they'll explain his batting. He gets close to the ball (on top of it, even on bounce) & waits for the ball to time it sweetly, which doesn't happen in UAE.

Somewhere, you should find me expecting Asad & Babar to score most in this Series, and that too before the IRL Test. UAE is the worst place for PAK cricket - just that Misbah's team got teams under prepared, often in a 2/3 Test series, he got the result before tourists settling down; that too heavily assisted by Toss wins. Had those series been 5 Tests series, you would have seen - for a record, PAK has lost 4/5 Tests to non Asian sides in UAE, in the later part of UAE Tour. Give tourists 3/4 FC games before 1st Test, Misbah's PAK would have struggled even against WIN in UAE.
 
MMHS said:
That's the biggest myth in PAK cricket. Asad would have been twice the player had he played all these Tests out side UAE. For a record, you can check - PAK players get the chance to play an away (out side Asia) Test once in a blue moon, thanks to PCB, that too 2/3 Tests max; still he has at least 3 top class innings at Gabba, Cape Town, UK. I always say Asad is the best driver of modern game, easily best from PAK since MoYo - he should enjoy most on true, pacy wicket. next time, when he bats again, hope Athers & Nasser are commenting (Not Rambo FGS) - they'll explain his batting. He gets close to the ball (on top of it, even on bounce) & waits for the ball to time it sweetly, which doesn't happen in UAE.

Somewhere, you should find me expecting Asad & Babar to score most in this Series, and that too before the IRL Test. UAE is the worst place for PAK cricket - just that Misbah's team got teams under prepared, often in a 2/3 Test series, he got the result before tourists settling down; that too heavily assisted by Toss wins. Had those series been 5 Tests series, you would have seen - for a record, PAK has lost 4/5 Tests to non Asian sides in UAE, in the later part of UAE Tour. Give tourists 3/4 FC games before 1st Test, Misbah's PAK would have struggled even against WIN in UAE.
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Wow! That has already happened. Nasser said exactly that.

He also said that Asad shows the Eng bats how to bat in English conditions.
 
Lefthanded said:
You're always there with good anecdotes. Thanks for the post.
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Test cricket is about character, not timid soul, neither shallow characters. I didn't see, but from CI, I can say if Imran was in charge, .... Sarfraz might have played his last game for PAK!!!!!!!

Don't believe - you may ask Haroon Rashid (?)
 
People wanted to drop Faheem for Rahat Ali!! People said Shadab wasn’t fit for England!
Give credit to Micheal (Mickey) Arthur!
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Wow! That has already happened. Nasser said exactly that.

He also said that Asad shows the Eng bats how to bat in English conditions.
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Nasser is one of the best cricket minds of the game; probably he is earning much more from Sky, otherwise, he was destined to be a Woolmerisque Coach. Athers is a great batting technician, with a Cambridge blue (means he can express with right words), but not bold enough to be a coach.
 
This has been a great team effort. A rare sight in pak cricket.
 
Edged past keeper for 4. Then another 4 off a pull shot
 
Pak will win this in the most dominating style.

England team looks good on paper. But they are all out of form as a team. Looks like they are mentally shot.

Kudos to Pak for decimating the opponent in their own den.
 
Asch Ali said:
People wanted to drop Faheem for Rahat Ali!! People said Shadab wasn’t fit for England!
Give credit to Micheal (Mickey) Arthur!
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I think, your examples are not appropriate - Fahim doesn't make in a 6+4 combination. I put it other way - 214/4 with 70 overs old ball - instead of Captain, Fakhar comes to bat .......

Shadab is there for his spin, not batting; he won't have been there had Yasir been fit - won't be there in near future either if PAK goes with 1 spinner strategy.
 
troodon said:
Pak will win this in the most dominating style.

England team looks good on paper. But they are all out of form as a team. Looks like they are mentally shot.

Kudos to Pak for decimating the opponent in their own den.
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This Pak team is underrated.
 
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