England vs Pakistan | 3rd Test | Southampton | Aug 21-25, 2020 | Day 1

[Yk313]

At least we are keeping the runs down.

Feel like that’s just a temporary thing. Feels like unravelling a la OT 2016.

 

[Mamoon]

Most comms do. If anything, they only prefer to pick out flaws after someone has been dismissed and even those in a very civilised manner even if it is the umpteenth dismissal in the same fashion.

Last comm I can recall openly calling ** was Ian Chappell maybe.

Yeah but Warne overdoes it. If players could listen to commentary on the field, their motivation levels would double whenever Warne is on air.

 

[JibranAnsari]

5/31 against srilanka , 4/26 against bangladesh.

Have little faith in your young ones.

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

let hope ... we get a wicket soon.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Most comms do. If anything, they only prefer to pick out flaws after someone has been dismissed and even those in a very civilised manner even if it is the umpteenth dismissal in the same fashion.

Last comm I can recall openly calling ** was Ian Chappell maybe.

Exactly. It's ridiculous when people say "but all the ex players/commentators say he's good, they must be right". Well no, commentators are just trying to be politically correct and just stick to positive things. They are going to usually avoid negativity.

 

[topspin]

Yup, but I think we are still missing a trick here by keeping Rizwan back. No point just trying to beat the edge if the LBW is out of the equation.

I agree, Rizwan needs to come up to the stumps. You have to wonder whether Misbah and Abbas are aware of his diminished potency when batsmen are further up in front of their crease.

Not sure if the data analyst is incompetent or if it's a case of Misbah and co not utilising data like other teams do.

This is one thing Younis Khan was very good at but his haters on here won't acknowledge that.

 

[MenInG]

91.2 mph from Naseem!

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Feel like that’s just a temporary thing. Feels like unravelling a la OT 2016.

Let's hope this is like the Oval - we post 500+ in our innings!

 

[shah_1]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] has been spot on most Pakistani youngsters. He rates Haider Ali so that is good

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

OK so here are a few things that Pakistan pacers could try:

Slower balls
Bouncers
Yorkers
Scrambled seam
Down leg

 

[castortroy]

Yasir bowling 10 over already on day 1 lol

 

[Mamoon]

Bad toss to lose. This is a road

Pakistan would have been 75/3 at the moment.

Masood gone for a hardworking and intelligent 1, Azhar getting lbw on 25 in 88 balls and Abid getting caught in the slips on 22.

Babar would trying to hit a boundary every over and Rizwan would be doing his hit and run game.

Moral of the story is that bowling first here is not a bad option. The major issue is that we are crap.

 

[castortroy]

Yasir is going to release the pressure once again

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

expected . yasir .... in.

 

[Firebat]

Does anyone know when Root scored his last Test hundred ?

226 in NZ, Nov 2019

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] has been spot on most Pakistani youngsters. He rates Haider Ali so that is good

He is not remotely ready for Test cricket, but he has some guts so you never know where he ends up in the future.

It is important for him that Babar is captain before he gets a permanent place in the side. Can’t let Azhar influence him.

 

[castortroy]

5 half trackers in 1 over

 

[Ellipsism]

Warne is an absolute hype machine in the Comm box. There’s nothing more cringeworthy than him mentioning his ladlaa Jadeja every 10th line even when he’s not playing- whenever India tour Australia.

 

[Mamoon]

Pakistan would have been 75/3 at the moment.

Masood gone for a hardworking and intelligent 1, Azhar getting lbw on 25 in 88 balls and Abid getting caught in the slips on 22.

Babar would trying to hit a boundary every over and Rizwan would be doing his hit and run game.

Moral of the story is that bowling first here is not a bad option. The major issue is that we are crap.

I forgot about the hockey player Fawad Alam.

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

we need two wicket to put pressure back to england ...... who will be the lucky one.

 

[Firebat]

In South Africa in England’s last Test series prior to this summer.

Highest score in that series was 61.

 

[castortroy]

Naseem and yasir combination is pure filth

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Fred Trueman is a bit wayward here

 

[HasanA]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] has been spot on most Pakistani youngsters. He rates Haider Ali so that is good

man you guys are so gullible. Mamoon is a known troll who is universally negative about pakistan cricket so when something doesnt happen, folks go oh he is right and then when something positive happens, he goes back in his bunker.

stop. being. gullible. and falling for the trap

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

Try Shaheen now ... or bring iin fawad alam.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Brilliant catch from Rizwan. Well bowled Naseem. He seems to bowl these magical deliveries from time to time

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

oohhh........... I was getting nervous

 

[asadee]

Wrist slitters can shut up for a few minutes now

 

[Mir jibran]

Naseem gets the big fish

 

[Ellipsism]

Thank you for the wrist slitting

 

[Firebat]

So much Naseem bashing, post after post after post. Now he's sent the England captain off with a beeeaauutyyy

 

[topspin]

Pakistan would have been 75/3 at the moment.

Masood gone for a hardworking and intelligent 1, Azhar getting lbw on 25 in 88 balls and Abid getting caught in the slips on 22.

Babar would trying to hit a boundary every over and Rizwan would be doing his hit and run game.

Moral of the story is that bowling first here is not a bad option. The major issue is that we are crap.

Lol I can only laugh at the bias here. He scored 158 and he's been Pakistan's 2nd best test bat since the beginning of 2019.

Can you remind me of what your beloved Imam averaged in Australia?

 

[Mesozoic]

Oh what a ball !

 

[asadee]

Thank you for the wrist slitting

They are such idiots man no idea about cricket and talent and suffer from verbal diarrhoea

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

Wrist slitters can shut up for a few minutes now

You can agree... things are looking good for england, if root was getting to 50.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Brilliant catch Rizwan!!!

 

[Mamoon]

Highest score in that series was 61.

Really? Didn’t Pope get a big one too?

 

[HasanA]

So much Naseem bashing, post after post after post. Now he's sent the England captain off with a beeeaauutyyy

its actually mamoon being the usual troll self and people being so gullible that they are falling for it

 

[Markhor]

There's that away movement from Naseem, and that's the line !

He was bowling too wide before.

 

[asadee]

Good catch from Rizwan too

 

[shamaan]

What a ball from naseem good catch rizwan

 

[ammar_merry]

Warne praises everyone. His personality as a commentator is completely different to his personality as a cricketer.

As a cricketer, he was arrogant and fiercely competitive. As a commentator, he is a glorified cheerleader who thinks everyone is an all-time great.

There is also never a bad leg-spinner whenever he is commentating.

He predicts well.Yasir bowled 1st over in test cricket and he said yasir is 200 plus test wickets bowler.

 

[Mesozoic]

Root should seriously consider relinquishing his captaincy.

 

[Firebat]

Really? Didn’t Pope get a big one too?

Root's highest score.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

Rizwan is next level of keepers. Long time since we had a good wk. His batting needs improvement and he can replaced in odi and test for long term.

 

[Markhor]

Hype brigade will now throw shoes at Waqar for months because he is not fixing his “technical issue”. Watch this space.

Waqar is a multiple times failed coach though which you do acknowledge, regardless of the merits of Naseem's hype.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

What a talent Naseem Shah!

That was a beauty. Shows how much potential this guy has and what he can become.

Even though felt Naseem should have been rested for this game considering his past injuries, never doubted his potential.

 

[Titan24]

Going by the thread it looks like Root is an ordinary batsman who is far from Fab 4 as he is falling 2nd time to a mediocre, over hyped teenage bowler.

 

[NauV]

Stick with Naseem!! and keep your expectations in check!! Don't expect him to take 4 wickets a match . . give him the time!
Just with his celebration, it just seems he is a bit down on confidence . . I have seen Naseems follow through in domestic . . his celebrations after getting a wicket . . It's because he has been put under these stupid expectations that he's the next big thing, etc. etc. etc.

Please!!

Let him be! Work on him . give him confidence . . or, I am happy for you guys to cherish the likes of Imran Khan, Sohail Khan, Rahat Ali, Wahab Riaz, Shinwari, etc.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

[MENTION=153069]Kenpachi[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Hype is justified if you can bowl that delivery to Joe Root as a teenager.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

Going by the thread it looks like Root is an ordinary batsman who is far from Fab 4 as he is falling 2nd time to a mediocre, over hyped teenage bowler.

Its good not to hype him. But he will become a good bowler in 1 yr time. Yes good not to hype him.

 

[PakPremi]

man you guys are so gullible. Mamoon is a known troll who is universally negative about pakistan cricket so when something doesnt happen, folks go oh he is right and then when something positive happens, he goes back in his bunker.

stop. being. gullible. and falling for the trap

Was thinking the same . He has been wrong about Shan, Shadab and Naseem to name a few.

 

[OldWarHorse]

For all the crying on this forum, its England who would be dissapointed with the result so far. Pakistan doing well on such a wicket

 

[HasanA]

Naseem Shah bowling faster in this match than the last . 88-90 consistent for 4 overs straight

 

[Markhor]

Wasim is losing it over Azhar's captaincy and field placings.

 

[Mamoon]

@Kempachi [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Hype is justified if you can bowl that delivery to Joe Root as a teenager.

Or Joe Root could be his bunny. Hype will be justified when his fans wouldn’t need to convince others because his figures will speak for themselves.

 

[Rana]

Yasir bowling well here. Loving the drift in

 

[lahoriyah1234]

Pakistan can dismiss English if Yasir can get 2 wks here.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Just heard Riz on the stump cam call yassir 'shahji' and then something in a language not punjabi, sindhi or urdu/hindi...i assume it must be balooch or pashto?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

150-5 would be good for us

 

[Rana]

Wasim is losing it over Azhar's captaincy and field placings.

Very uninspiring captain and selection.

 

[sindhiboy]

Rizwan is next level of keepers. Long time since we had a good wk. His batting needs improvement and he can replaced in odi and test for long term.

sarfraz wasted some years of rizwans career. i always rated rizwan, pak's best keeper batsman in decades

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Just heard Riz on the stump cam call yassir 'shahji' and then something in a language not punjabi, sindhi or urdu/hindi...i assume it must be balooch or pashtoo?

Pashto

 

[PakPremi]

Naseem and yasir combination is pure filth

Are you watching thw match they been beating batsmen numerous times , of course you would go for some runs as well when you try different things.

 

[Rana]

Credit to where it’s due. Crawley has been fantastic!

 

[lahoriyah1234]

Wasim is losing it over Azhar's captaincy and field placings.

I swear even i can do better field placing than this duck face duck thinking Ali. Really wants Shan to take over for a short period before Babar is ready.

 

[Markhor]

Just heard Riz on the stump cam call yassir 'shahji' and then something in a language not punjabi, sindhi or urdu/hindi...i assume it must be balooch or pashto?

Yeah Rizwan is a Pakhtun from KPK.

 

[Yk313]

Yeah but Warne overdoes it. If players could listen to commentary on the field, their motivation levels would double whenever Warne is on air.

Hahah fair enough, point noted. Also have this bone to pick with Waseem how he keeps seeing himself in everyone...

 

[sindhiboy]

Just heard Riz on the stump cam call yassir 'shahji' and then something in a language not punjabi, sindhi or urdu/hindi...i assume it must be balooch or pashto?

theyre both patan. i dont think thre has been a balochi or sindhi cricketer in the pak team ever

 

[Yk313]

Exactly. It's ridiculous when people say "but all the ex players/commentators say he's good, they must be right". Well no, commentators are just trying to be politically correct and just stick to positive things. They are going to usually avoid negativity.

Yup, I think only Chappell used to really go after underperformers. And tbh, that used to irk most viewers too.

 

[sindhiboy]

Credit to where it’s due. Crawley has been fantastic!

crawley is the next jonathan trott

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Or Joe Root could be his bunny. Hype will be justified when his fans wouldn’t need to convince others because his figures will speak for themselves.

Critics are always there. You can't shut up everyone with your stats unless you're a bona fide great of your country.

 

[Titan24]

Its good not to hype him. But he will become a good bowler in 1 yr time. Yes good not to hype him.

Ofcourse, he is nothing extraordinary at the moment. He has young and far from a finished product but, one can see the potential to become a good bowler by applying any definition of potential. How is career trajectory goes will obviously be dependent upon how much work he puts in.

 

[MenInG]

Naseem's wicket of Root

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[CrIc_Mystique]

Yeah Rizwan is a Pakhtun from KPK.

Thanks m8...

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

theyre both patan. i dont think thre has been a balochi or sindhi cricketer in the pak team ever

oh...really?

 

[Yk313]

I agree, Rizwan needs to come up to the stumps. You have to wonder whether Misbah and Abbas are aware of his diminished potency when batsmen are further up in front of their crease.

Not sure if the data analyst is incompetent or if it's a case of Misbah and co not utilising data like other teams do.

This is one thing Younis Khan was very good at but his haters on here won't acknowledge that.

At this point, I swear I don’t want to even try and speculate what can penetrate the thick skulls of Misbah and Waqar.

I am tempted to apply for that role of the Data Analyst myself lol.

 

[Rana]

Pakistan need to keep Crawley off strike.

 

[Yk313]

Let's hope this is like the Oval - we post 500+ in our innings!

Ameen bro. I mean their line up is one or two wickets away from going but the same is true for PAK. Was hoping for Imam to play, just to get Azhar to move to 5 because feel he may be able to add 15 more to his usual 20.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Need to stem the flow of runs as both at the crease are fast runners and quick scorers.