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Horrible.
Some people take things too far.
Where do you propose they should have stopped?
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Horrible.
Some people take things too far.
Where do you propose they should have stopped?
They could've had a word. Nothing more.
It was not like these women committed zina or something.
How generous of you, to just have a word with them.
You’re saying if it was Zina then it would have been acceptable?
I didn't say that. But, it would've made more sense if there was zina.
These ladies pretty much got killed for singing and clapping. That's absurd.
But killing for zina is fine?
He clearly meant that he could understand (NOT JUSTIFY)the anger if they committed zina.
Slightly off topic, but does death penalty do justice from crimes such as this? Why not make use of the criminals. Send them to the army and use them as slave labour.
He clearly meant that he could understand (NOT JUSTIFY)the anger if they committed zina.
Slightly off topic, but does death penalty do justice from crimes such as this? Why not make use of the criminals. Send them to the army and use them as slave labour.
A man shot and killed his sister for "honour" in the Clifton area of Karachi on Saturday, police officials said.
They said the suspect, Hasnain Qamar, shot his 19-year-old sister, Noorul Huda Shah, in the city's Marine Drive area, located in Clifton Block 2.
The girl was shifted to the Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Centre (JPMC), where she was pronounced dead on arrival. JPMC's executive director Dr Seemin Jamali said that the girl had received a bullet to the head.
Police said they had detained the suspect and recovered the weapon used in the crime. Senior Superintendent of Police (SSP) South Sheeraz Nazeer told Dawn.com that Qamar "confessed to killing his sister for honour".
The official added that during initial investigation, Qamar revealed that he was a sub-inspector in the Land Department of District Municipal Corporation South. He said the weapon he used belonged to his late father, who used to work as a director in the same department.
Qamar claimed his sister used to talk to a man in the neighbourhood and he had "stopped her time and again".
He said when his younger brother told him today (Saturday) about their sister's "constant interactions [with the boy], he took out his gun and shot her in the head". She died on the spot, he said.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1573281/man-kills-sister-for-honour-in-karachis-clifton-area
A cab driver wanted on suspicion of murdering his teen daughters has been arrested after 12 years on the run.
A warrant for Yaser Abdel Said's arrest was issued the day after the 2008 shootings of his daughters, Sarah Yaser Said, 17, and Amina Yaser Said, 18.
The Egyptian-born suspect was placed on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives in 2014.
Almost seven years on, Mr Said has been taken into custody in Justin, Texas, with two relatives arrested alongside.
Mr Said, who is now 63, will soon be transferred to Dallas County, the FBI's Dallas branch said in a statement released on Wednesday .
"The FBI-led Dallas Violent Crimes Task Force has worked tirelessly to find Yaser Abdel Said," said FBI Dallas special agent Matthew DeSarno. "These experienced investigators never gave up on their quest to find him and pledged to never forget the young victims in this case."
The FBI also announced on Wednesday that two more arrests were made, CBS DFW reported . Islam Said, the suspect's son, and Yassim Said, the suspect's brother, both face charges for harbouring a fugitive.
What is Said accused of?
A murder investigation was opened on 1 January, 2008 after two young women, Amina and Sarah, were found shot to death.
On that day, Mr Said took Amina and Sarah for a ride in his taxicab, on the pretext of taking them for a meal, the FBI alleges.
The FBI said he drove them to Irving, Texas, where he allegedly shot both girls inside the taxicab. They both died of multiple gunshot wounds.
Before their deaths, a family member told police that the suspect allegedly threatened "bodily harm″ against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim, according to BBC partner CBS News .
The sisters' great aunt, Gail Gattrell, has described their deaths as so-called "honour killings".
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53934168?__twitter_impression=true
I thought honor killings exist only in Punjab part of India and Pakistan.
ITV’s Honour starring Keeley Hawes will revisit the harrowing discovery of a murder victim's body in a suitcase - in Birmingham.
The two-part drama revisits the ‘honour killing’ of Banaz Mahmod, a 20-year-old Iraqi Kurdish woman, who was discovered in Handsworth.
The British-Iraqi Kurdish woman who lived in Wimbledon, London, was murdered at age 20 in 2006 on the orders of her family.
Mahmod's uncle and father had her raped and murdered, in revenge for her refusal to accept their determination to control who she saw and who she married.
Her body was buried in a suitcase in Birmingham.
Her cousin Dana Amin, 30, helped stuff her body into a suitcase and move it to the city, where it was discovered buried in a back garden.
Line of Duty and Bodyguard star Keeley Haews will star as Detective Chief Inspector Caroline Goode, the officer who was given the Queen’s Police Medal for her investigation into the missing 20-year-old.
Banaz had drawn the ire of her family by leaving the man she had been wedded to through an arranged marriage, and finding her own boyfriend in Iranian Rahmat Sulemani.
Hawes said: “It is a privilege to be working on Honour…in a time when honour killings are still rife, it is critical to shine a light on such an important subject. Banaz Mahmod’s story, and DCI Goode’s subsequent investigation, is certainly one that needs to be told and I am proud to be a part of it.”
But Banaz’s sister Pyazee has slammed the script of the ITV drama, which was penned by Gwyneth Hughes’ script.
The grieving sister says, that by choosing to focus on DCI Goode’s story, the drama fails to “honour” Banaz.
“It doesn’t really sit too well with me that that’s the angle they chose to go with because that’s not Banaz’s story, that’s somebody else’s story,” Payzee told the BBC.
“This is about somebody who lost her life very tragically and it’s not about somebody getting to tell their story. I don’t believe that it’s honouring Banaz.”
Scriptwriter Vinay Patel agreed, saying: “The framing on this makes me deeply uneasy, especially since the police did not take Banaz seriously when she came to them for help weeks before her murder.”
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/itv1s-honour-condemned-family-birmingham-18857931
Similar parallels to the grooming pandemicVery interesting but sad to watch this.
She went to the police several times saying her life was in danger, but they did nothing about it.
Where is the dishonor when 2 Muslims marry?
Police were on Saturday investigating the murder of two Pakistani-Spanish sisters as an "honour killing", a brutal patriarchal practice that sees women put to death for bringing "shame" on their families.
In deeply conservative Pakistan women have been shot, stabbed, stoned, set alight and strangled for the charge of tainting their family's "honour".
Such women are often slain by their own relatives, acting outside the law to uphold their family reputation according to ancient tribal mores.
Police in the eastern city of Gujrat said they are investigating the murder of Aneesa Abbas, 24, and Arooj Abbas, 21, as the latest in a grim litany of honour killings.
A spokesman told AFP both were seeking separation from their Pakistani husbands and were lured back from Spain to Gujrat where they were strangled and shot on Friday night.
"The family created a story to convince them to come to Pakistan for a couple of days," said Gujrat police spokesman Nauman Hassan.
"Preliminary investigations show this is a case of honour killing, but it is still developing and the investigation is ongoing," he added.
Police also said the women were being "pressurised" by their spouses -- who were also their cousins -- to aid their emigration to Spain.
Seven members of the sisters' family are currently wanted for murder.
The Spanish embassy in Pakistan could not be reached for comment on Saturday.
Swathes of Pakistani society still operate according to strict codes of "honour" that radically undermine women's rights.
Entitlements to education, reproductive rights and the choice of who to wed are all curtailed by the practice.
There were more than 450 honour killings last year, according to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.
Men are sometimes targeted but the majority of victims are women and it is suspected that many cases go unreported.
AFP
In a gruesome incident, a 20-year-old woman was burnt alive in the name of 'honour' in Pakistan's Punjab province, police said on Sunday.
The incident took place in Garh Maharaja, Jhang district, some 200 kms from Lahore, on Friday. Investigation officer Muhammad Azam told PTI on Sunday that Rajab Ali, along with his sons Jabbar and Aamir and some other family members severely tortured his young daughter before setting her ablaze at their house on May 26.
The police officer said that the woman wanted to marry a man of her choice. "A day before, she had left the home and reportedly spent some time with him before returning," he said.
Upon her return, her father, two brother and some family women tied her with a rope and severely tortured the woman before setting her on fire, Azam said.
The victim was shifted to hospital where she succumbed to her burns. "Before her death, she told police about those who set her on fire," he said.
Police have arrested the father, two brothers and a sister of the victim. A murder case has been registered against the suspects.
The officer said the arrested suspects offered no remorse for their act saying the girl had disgraced the family's honour and deserved this fate.
Hundreds of women are killed every year in different parts of Pakistan in the name of honour.
The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) has reported an average of 650 honour killings annually over the past decade. But since most go unreported, the real number is likely to be much higher.
Real shameful stuff
Pakistan accounts for the most number of honor killings globally. This practice is not limited to Pakistan only.
Pakistani-Italians and Pakistani-Spanish have made global headlines recently for killing their daughters for dishonouring their family.
I think you would be aware of a case where Pakistani-Spanish family killed, chopped and buried their daughter in a forest after she refused to marry a cousin.
I watched a report on DW about honour killings amongst the Pakistani community in Italy. There was a Pakistani social worker in the documentary and he detailed how average Italians keep questioning Pakistani culture and its awful treatment of women. He said he had no answers for them and that he was very embarrassed. He further said that Italians simply cannot understand why would a Pakistani family kill their own daughter.
For these mentally ill people it is more honorable to kill than allow someone to marry their choice of spouse. Evil people.Italy upholds sentence of Pakistani parents who killed their teen daughter for refusing marriage
The parents were found guilty of killing their 18-year-old daughter for refusing to marry her older cousin.
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Italy upholds sentence of Pakistani parents who killed their teen daughter for refusing marriage
The parents were found guilty of killing their 18-year-old daughter for refusing to marry her older cousin.m.jpost.com