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ICC World Cup 2023: Sri Lanka (160/2) extend England's (156) win-less streak with a humiliating 8-wicket win in Match 25

Not the national expressway it was in the aussie match, but by no means a tricky pitch either. Still more than 100 runs under par.

England need a miracle from here, maybe hope the pitch starts holding more for ali and rashid or hope that wood can pull off a deadly spell with the extra bounce on offer
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Srilanka must be kicking themselves to start very badly. They could have been a good team here with Kusala mendis form.
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No hasaranga and chaneers too. I am 100% confident they would have made semis with those 2 operating with lahiru although madhushanka has been quite good himself.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
You don't rate Buttler?
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Not in ODI - a player with 30is FC average won’t have kept his spot for 2 years, had he debuted 30 years back. He is a T20 great for sure, something I don’t rate as cricket - yes, a game that uses cricket rules & gears; but so does beach soccer or Futsol….
 
England on there way home, seems complacency and poor captaincy has been exposed in this world cup
 
Even Labuschagne is playing blinders. England bazball team who plays faster than this in Tests is struggling here.
 
Sunny/Ravi agree with me :) Buttler should have opened. He is a dangerous player in Indian conditions as opener in the IPL> Scored like 3 centuries in one season.
 
At this rate England may end up finishing 8th.

They should lose against Australia and India. They can lose against Pakistan too.
 
Will Srilnaka's Victory open Semifinal doors for Pakistan?
How will this match outcome affects Pakistan's chances??
 
Most dangerous is South Africa this worldcup, then Newzealand, India and then Australia.

These four have highest chance to qualify.

I reckon India, Newzealand, South Africa and Australia will rank as such respectively and we will have Aus vs NZ and India vs SA for Semis.

Eng and SL have pretty much no chances to qualify now.
 
Archer
Plunkett
Woakes
Rashid
Stokes
Ali

Was their bowling in 2019

Now missing Archer. Topley is ok only in the initial phase. He fizzles out as soon as new ball wears out.
Atkinson just a run of the mill fast bowler. No real skills.
Brydon Carson is just a t20 guy.
 
kron said:
Archer
Plunkett
Woakes
Rashid
Stokes
Ali

Was their bowling in 2019

Now missing Archer. Topley is ok only in the initial phase. He fizzles out as soon as new ball wears out.
Atkinson just a run of the mill fast bowler. No real skills.
Brydon Carson is just a t20 guy.
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I don't think archer would have done much for them here, phaaast bowlers are going the distance on these pitches.
Definitely missing the golden arm of stokes though, he could have broken dangerous partnerships along the way.
 
batandballbattle said:
I don't think archer would have done much for them here, phaaast bowlers are going the distance on these pitches.
Definitely missing the golden arm of stokes though, he could have broken dangerous partnerships along the way.
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He doesn't want to bowl

Marsh is saying he doesn't want to bowl either.

Then you have pandya making excuses sometimes.

All these ARs trying not to bowl lol
 
kron said:
You are right about india though still. What's your prediction ? Can anyone stop SA and India from reaching finals?
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I never said England would win this World Cup. I have said many times they are past their best in this format. They are not going to hit the highs of 2016-2020 any time soon because they have looked vulnerable in this format for a couple of years now.

However, I didn't think they would be this bad though. I had them locked for a semifinal place for sure although India were always the favorites to go all the way.

Australia or New Zealand can stop South Africa because South Africa can be vulnerable against a disciplined bowling lineup. India though cannot be stopped.

I actually have a 100% record of correctly predicting ODI World Cup winners including 2019 when England were in shambles after losing to Pakistan, Australia and Sri Lanka and were on the brink of elimination while Pakistani fans were doing bhangra. I maintained even then that England would recover and win the World Cup.

India will win the World Cup InshAllah and they deserve it as well. Kohli will also score runs in the knockout and shut people up once and for all.
 
kron said:
He doesn't want to bowl

Marsh is saying he doesn't want to bowl either.

Then you have pandya making excuses sometimes.

All these ARs trying not to bowl lol
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Yeah his hip has been troubling him for a while, fair enough that he concentrates on his batting only.
Pandya has picked up an injury now so we could see him bowling a lot less when he comes back
Aussies already have the cover of green/stoinis as an all rounder so not much of a miss if marsh doesn't bowl, but this may become more complicated if they drop an AR when head comes in.
 
Mamoon said:
I never said England would win this World Cup. I have said many times they are past their best in this format. They are not going to hit the highs of 2016-2020 any time soon because they have looked vulnerable in this format for a couple of years now.

However, I didn't think they would be this bad though. I had them locked for a semifinal place for sure although India were always the favorites to go all the way.

Australia or New Zealand can stop South Africa because South Africa can be vulnerable against a disciplined bowling lineup. India though cannot be stopped.

I actually have a 100% record of correctly predicting ODI World Cup winners including 2019 when England were in shambles after losing to Pakistan, Australia and Sri Lanka and were on the brink of elimination while Pakistani fans were doing bhangra. I maintained even then that England would recover and win the World Cup.

India will win the World Cup InshAllah and they deserve it as well. Kohli will also score runs in the knockout and shut people up once and for all.
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Agreed overall. Don't want india to win haha but it will be well deserves if they do. They have been absolutely phenomenal. Our pawaar house bowlers got blown away by their pace bowlers. Not spin. Pace. One thing apparently we were good at??
 
batandballbattle said:
Yeah his hip has been troubling him for a while, fair enough that he concentrates on his batting only.
Pandya has picked up an injury now so we could see him bowling a lot less when he comes back
Aussies already have the cover of green/stoinis as an all rounder so not much of a miss if marsh doesn't bowl, but this may become more complicated if they drop an AR when head comes in.
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I dont know what to think of green. In tests he seems ok. I mean on extreme bouncy pitches he may be alright but nothing special outside that. In odi he is just feeding pies. Stoinis is too slow.
 
kron said:
I dont know what to think of green. In tests he seems ok. I mean on extreme bouncy pitches he may be alright but nothing special outside that. In odi he is just feeding pies. Stoinis is too slow.
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Yeah they are just up and down middle overs cover, though we made stoinis look like prime marshall though ofc 😂
 
Babar, I know you are not captain material, but neither is Jos Buttler.

There is always a silver lining.

:)
 
Samarawickrama is a class player? Where was he all these days? Why he wasn't a regular player for lanka??
 
So @Mamoon doing what he does best. Makes a prediction, it goes Pete Tong, then denies/makes excuses like it never happened, goes into hibernation, then makes a timely Hail Mary prediction in the final when there are 10 overs remaining, and claims he war correct!

Some things never change, but always remain entertaining.

:)
 
I still think If NZ will be in trouble if Pakistan win some match .
NZ is still to play three game against big teams ( South Africa, Australia and Pakistan) and one left against Sri Lanka which is also not going to be easy match at all .
 
kron said:
Agreed overall. Don't want india to win haha but it will be well deserves if they do. They have been absolutely phenomenal. Our pawaar house bowlers got blown away by their pace bowlers. Not spin. Pace. One thing apparently we were good at??
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These so-called power house bowlers have no plan B and they cannot respond once they are under the pump. They want the batsmen to play on their terms.

Shaheen has lost his venom because he is a medium-fast bowler now. The margin of error is very low and since he is always bowling full, he is unable to benefit from his height.

Rauf is not even an ODI bowler. He is not good enough to bowl 60 good balls. During every ODI spell, he has a period of 15-20 balls where he completely loses it.

Naseem or no Naseem, India, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa all have superior pace attacks than Pakistan.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Babar, I know you are not captain material, but neither is Jos Buttler.

There is always a silver lining.

:)
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Jos Buttler is an inspirational leader. He is one the architect behind their ODI success since 2015. Don't forget, he was captain of winning team in last world cup.
 
This is a shocker of a performance by Eng. Beyond what anyone imagined. Am shocked that they have been this subpar. Pitch was perfect to make 270 plus and put pressure on SL. But looks like eng is mentally shot here
 
Technics 1210 said:
So @Mamoon doing what he does best. Makes a prediction, it goes Pete Tong, then denies/makes excuses like it never happened, goes into hibernation, then makes a timely Hail Mary prediction in the final when there are 10 overs remaining, and claims he war correct!

Some things never change, but always remain entertaining.

:)
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I have been telling everyone for 11 years that Pakistan is a rubbish team and yet here we are. The problem with posters like you is not you are not willing to accept defeat. I'm three steps ahead of you guys which is why I always have the last laugh.

People want my head on a stick for saying things they don't want to hear, but truth always prevails. I don't benefit from any of this and neither do I gain anything. I just want to help people wake up from their delusions and enlighten them with my wisdom.

Like many great people of the past, I will get respect only after I am gone.
 
Wth happened to the world champions? Did not watch the first innings. Is this a spinning track?

Sri Lanka are the most unpredictable team now days!
 
AAli98 said:
In England no one cares about cricket the average joe doesn’t know eng are double World Cup holders.

Only the sub continent fans are low lives hold onto every kohli baba stats.
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Obviously those statements refer to the fans who watch and follow cricket in england.

Who said england is the benchmark and everyone should follow their interests? People in subcontinent shouldn't be cricket nerds because many people in england don't follow it? Lol

Also Why so salty on kohli 🤦
"Low lives" rubbish
 
Mamoon said:
I have been telling everyone for 11 years that Pakistan is a rubbish team and yet here we are. The problem with posters like you is not you are not willing to accept defeat. I'm three steps ahead of you guys which is why I always have the last laugh.

People want my head on a stick for saying things they don't want to hear, but truth always prevails. I don't benefit from any of this and neither do I gain anything. I just want to help people wake up from their delusions and enlighten them with my wisdom.

Like many great people of the past, I will get respect only after I am gone.
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Easy to do it for a mediocre team like Pakistan lol

You have been brought down to earth quite spectacularly with how bad England has played though. Dropping games to both Afghanistan and Sri Lanka will deflate their cricket.
 
Unbiased-Fan said:
Jos Buttler is an inspirational leader. He is one the architect behind their ODI success since 2015. Don't forget, he was captain of winning team in last world cup.
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We are talking about ODIs, Eoin Morgan was captain of the England 2019 WC winning team, but yeah Butler was T20 captain in last WC, but lets face it, England beat a Pakistan D-team in the T20 final. :geek:
 
sweep_shot said:
No. This game shouldn't impact Pakistan. It should only impact England (they should be eliminated now).

Pakistan would be impacted (positively) if Australia and NZ start losing games.
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PAK will be impacted positively if only they start to win games first - still SAF, NZ & Pons to come and my hunch is ENG will have field day somewhere in this WC - normally those days come against disintegrated, morally down teams.
 
Just checked the score. What the heck is wrong with England? They still have gun batsmen who can score 400 on any day. I know their bowling is a bit weak. But they should be no where near the bottom of the table.
 
Devadwal said:
Now wait for someone will be writing an article on how ODI Cricket is dying. :shh :vk2
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But isn't that the truth though? The younger generation doesn't seem to have an appetite for odis anymore especially with the lack of close finishes. That's just the nature of the format. Whether we like it or not t20 is the future and the way to grow the game. Icc should abandon the odi WC and just do T20 WC.. and hopefully if Ind wins this WC- Ind will be the last holders ever of the odi WC and bcci can milk it ! T20s attract new fans to the game which odis cant.
 
kron said:
Yea maybe. Wonder if that's always been the case though. Cricket is bit of an elitist sport to be honest. Very expensive so only an exclusive group may be familiar with what is happening around the cricket world.
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Rugby is just as exclusive if not more.

Rugby however, much like the Football world cup is broadcast on national TV and the two biggest national channels are BBC and ITV. Previous tournaments have bad at the very least highlights on the BBC, The Hundred currently has a set number of games including the final on the BBC and we all know about the 2019 world cup on national TV too.

This world cup has been relegated to Channel 5 if I'm not mistake and that has a tiny viewing audience.

The problem is, even Skysports have shown this world cup as an after thought. There's no build up show (not even from England games from what I've seen), the match broadcast begins with the first ball and ends with the final interviews. NO analysis apart from half hearted videos on Youtube.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Easy to do it for a mediocre team like Pakistan lol

You have been brought down to earth quite spectacularly with how bad England has played though. Dropping games to both Afghanistan and Sri Lanka will deflate their cricket.
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I didn't want to do this but sometimes, people force my hand I have to show them their level just like Kohli and Rohit showed Rauf his level.






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Usman Chadda said:
Easy to do it for a mediocre team like Pakistan lol

You have been brought down to earth quite spectacularly with how bad England has played though. Dropping games to both Afghanistan and Sri Lanka will deflate their cricket.
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@Mamoon can be soundly defeated, he is just a pakistani hating troll.

The only fault he finds in the England side is Ali (I'm no fan of his but he is hardly the only problem). Apparently Mark Wood averaging almost 40 with the ball isn't a problem, or Stokes being brought into the side on last minute notice isn't the problem, or not grooming a fast bowler to replace Archer isn't the problem, or Johnny not knowing how to build an innings isnt the problem, or dropping Roy...I could go on and on.

the only problem is Moeen Ali.

Someone tell the troll Moeen Ali is only quarter pakistani :p
 
avidlearner said:
The way Sri Lanka has played so far (patchy win against the Dutch, notwithstanding), I feel England (the return of Moeen Ali should bolster them both in bowling/batting) should canter this.
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This post of mine aged very well.
 
Next three day is good match for cricket fans
Friday - South Africa vs Pakistan
Saturday - Australia vs Newzealand
Sunday - India vs England
 
Devadwal said:
Next three day is good match for cricket fans
Friday - South Africa vs Pakistan
Saturday - Australia vs Newzealand
Sunday - India vs England
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I don't think Sunday game would be an exciting game considering England's form. India should win easily.

But, Friday and Saturday games should be fun.
 
sweep_shot said:
I don't think Sunday game would be an exciting game considering England's form. India should win easily.

But, Friday and Saturday games should be fun.
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England can back to form anytime .they need to respect the condition and curb their ego .Team combination is also not right for them .
Play Butler as an opener where he is successful in Indian conditions .
 
Devadwal said:
England can back to form anytime .they need to respect the condition and curb their ego .Team combination is also not right for them .
Play Butler as an opener where he is successful in Indian conditions .
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India vs England is effectively a dead rubber (if England lose today).

India should make it to semi and England should get eliminated from group stage.

Not much is at stake.
 
Good job we played Sri Lanka before they got in form otherwise it would have been another humiliation
 
sweep_shot said:
India vs England is effectively a dead rubber (if England lose today).

India should make it to semi and England should get eliminated from group stage.

Not much is at stake.
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Without pressure England Players might perform well. Yea it will be impact less game but could be exciting for cricket lovers
 
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