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An Islamabad trial court on Saturday declared PTI Chairman Imran Khan guilty of “corrupt practices” in the Toshakhana case and sentenced him to three years in prison.

The court also imposed a fine of Rs100,000 on the PTI chief.

During the hearing today, Additional District and Sessions Judge (ADSJ) Humayun Dilawar ruled that charges against the former prime minister in the case were proven.

“Imran Khan submitted fake details to the Election Commission of Pakistan and is found guilty of corrupt practices,” he stated and sent the PTI chief to jail for three years under Section 174 of the Election Act.

ADSJ Dilawar also directed that a copy of the order should be sent to the Islamabad police chief for execution of the court orders.

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Technics 1210 said:
Let the revolution and riots commence!
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would be very surprised if theres any prolonged major riots, hes lost his political apparatus to establishment plants, and his party lacks any way to protect its supporters, ive spoken to pakistanis (living in Pakistan) who were his supporters who are like its not worth the hassle anymore.
 
True test for Pakistanis living in Pakistan. It is now or never for them. They need to come out on streets and protest.
Viva La Revolucion.
 
PTI Chairman Imran Khan, shortly after an Islamabad trial court declared him guilty of “corrupt practices” in the Toshakhana case, was arrested by Punjab police on Saturday afternoon from his Zaman Park residence in Lahore.

PTI’s Punjab Chapter confirmed the reports with a tweet: “Imran Khan is being moved to Kot Lakhpat Jail.”

The court sentenced Imran — who was absent from court — to three years in prison and imposed a fine of Rs100,000 on him for concealing details of Toshakhana gifts. His lawyers were also not present.

Additional District and Sessions Judge (ADSJ) Humayun Dilawar ruled that charges against the former prime minister in the case were proven.

“Imran Khan deliberately submitted fake details [of Toshakhana gifts] to the ECP and is found guilty of corrupt practices,” he stated and sent the PTI chief to jail for three years under Section 174 of the Election Act.

The law states that a person guilty of the offence of corrupt practice shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to three years or with a fine which may extend to Rs100,000 or both.

ADSJ Dilawar also directed that a copy of the order should be sent to the Islamabad police chief for the execution of the court orders.

During the hearing — which commenced at 8:30am — the judge repeatedly expressed displeasure over the absence of Imran’s lawyers. He, however, gave multiple chances to the defence counsel to appear in court.

Finally, at 12:30pm, ASDJ Dilawar announced the verdict. Roughly 29 minutes later, reports of Imran’s arrest surfaced.

Unlike previous instances, where Zaman Park was usually guarded by PTI supporters, Imran was taken into custody today without any major resistance.

The PTI chairman’s arrest today comes approximately three months after his first arrest on May 9 when he was detained in Islamabad from the high court’s premises in the Al-Qadir Trust case.

Imran’s arrest that day had resulted in widespread violence and saw important military installations come under attack, on the basis of which the state had launched a severe crackdown against his party.

While Imran was released the next day, thousands of PTI workers and almost the entire top-tier leadership was rounded up.

What followed was a large number of senior party leaders holding press conferences, condemning the May 9 riots and disassociating themselves with the PTI — in what became pretty much a format to follow.

The May 9 arrest, the riots, the crackdown and the mass exodus left the PTI looking like a shell of itself.

Toshakhana case​

The case, filed by ruling party lawmakers, is based on a criminal complaint filed by the ECP.

The case alleges that Imran had “deliberately concealed” details of the gifts he retained from the Toshaskhana — a repository where presents handed to government officials from foreign officials are kept — during his time as the prime minister and proceeds from their reported sales.

According to Toshakhana rules, gifts/presents and other such materials received by persons to whom these rules apply shall be reported to the Cabinet Division.

Imran has faced a number of legal issues over his retention of gifts. The issue also led to his disqualification by the ECP.

On Oct 21, 2022, the ECP concluded that the former premier had indeed made “false statements and incorrect declarations” regarding the gifts.

The watchdog’s order had said Imran stood disqualified under Article 63(1)(p) of the Constitution.

Subsequently, the ECP had approached the Islamabad sessions court with a copy of the complaint, seeking proceedings against Imran under criminal law for allegedly misleading officials about the gifts he received from foreign dignitaries during his tenure as the prime minister.

On May 10, Imran was indicted in the case. However, on July 4, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) had stayed the proceeding and directed ADSJ Dilawar to re-examine the matter in seven days, keeping in view eight legal questions he framed to decide the maintainability of the Toshakhana reference.

The questions had included whether the complaint was filed on behalf of the ECP by a duly authorised person, whether the ECP’s decision of Oct 21, 2022, was a valid authorisation to any officer of ECP to file a complaint, and whether the question of authorisation was a question of fact and evidence and could be ratified subsequently during the course of proceedings.

Finally, on July 9, ADSJ Dilawar while ruling that the reference was maintainable, revived the stalled proceedings and summoned the witnesses for testimony.

A session court had last month declared that the ECP reference against the PTI chief was maintainable. The decision was subsequently challenged in the IHC.

A day earlier, the IHC gave a short breather to Imran, asking the judge to re-examine the jurisdiction and any procedure lapse in the filing of the complaint by the ECP.
 
Just another stupid decision amongst a long line from our geniuses. Let's ee if we get 7 percent growth now that the "fitna" is in jail...what a joke of a country.
 
You have close connections The Great Khan with the military/army, give us some insights.

What are tour contacts saying?
 
Looking at the polls it makes sense why they arrested him. They couldn't have won the election even with full capacity rigging, they just don't have enough time to set it up.

Taking IK out of the equation is the only way PDM can retain power.
 
The people have given up against the establishment. The post May 9 crackdown has terrified people at large to disassociate themselves from PTI
 
Police in Lahore and Peshawar on Saturday detained at least 48 Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) activists who were protesting against the arrest of former prime minister Imran Khan, Express News reported.

The PTI workers took to streets shortly after the trial court hearing the Toshakhana case declared the PTI chief guilty and sentenced him to three years in jail.

The court had ordered the immediate arrest of Imran Khan and also imposed a fine of Rs100,000.

Khan was transferred from Lahore to Islamabad via motorway, where he is expected to be lodged in Attock Jail and kept in a lock-up in high-security zone.

The PTI workers were arrested by police outside Imran Khan’s Zaman Park residence in Lahore, where they were gathering to express solidarity with the former premier.

Police transferred 33 protesting workers including two women in vans to various police stations. The workers were not even allowed to hold a peaceful demonstration outside Khan’s Zaman Park residence.

Sources said that the police were instructed to promptly apprehend any PTI workers seen protesting across the city.

In Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa's provincial capital Peshawar, the police detained 15 protesting workers, who had gathered near Pir Zakari Flyover, under Section 3 of the Maintenance of Public Order (3MPO).

The police launched a crackdown on the workers who subsequently dispersed after the onslaught from the law enforcers.

Earlier in the day, PTI stalwart Shah Mahmood Qureshi had urged supporters to not take the law into their own hands.

“Peaceful protest is our right but no state asset is to be damaged. Don’t take the law in your hands,” he cautioned, in a video statement released shortly after the decision against PTI chief.

He rejected the verdict issued by a district and sessions court in Islamabad, wherein Judge Humayun Dilawar declared the former premier as an “established dishonest beyond doubt”.

Qureshi also asked party supporters to continue efforts for the PTI chief’s release peacefully while assuring them that the action plan moving forward is being prepared.

Express Tribune
 
Just realised that the forum was back up.
After the antics of the CJP IHC and this loser judge, it was obvious that they were working to order. This terrible decision will only give temporary relief to these losers. PK public isn't the bravest and today's reaction was pretty pathetic but not unexpected but the elections will happen in a few years down the line and people will take revenge
Whats more interesting is The muted response from the Nooras and Billo rani, this shows that the Caretaker govt battle is ongoing and they fear that instead of Kaptaans fake case disqualification, this will set the template for their silence because if they say or do anything against the army, they will have real cases against them. IA Kaptaan stays safe but PK in a perilous situation where 80% of the public hate the power brokers.
 
It was only a matter of time.

Pakistan is a SLAVE nation of the West. They will kill and oppress their own for some extra $ and love by white Americans.

Imran has done his part, live or die, he will be remembered as one of the rare Pakistanis who is not a thief, not corrupt and not a slave of the white western world.

The Pak army is vastly overated along with the Pak police. Iranians bought revolution against a much harsher oppressor.

If you're not willing to risk your freedom or lives for the future of your children, you will remain oppressed.
 
Even Imran admits that his children have said to him to leave Pakistan and come back to the UK.

However it may be too late now for him to do that.
 
Sounds like a list of politically motivated charges.

It could have been drawn up as part of finding an excuse to lock him away.

Can he move to the United Kingdom?
 
James said:
Sounds like a list of politically motivated charges.

It could have been drawn up as part of finding an excuse to lock him away.

Can he move to the United Kingdom?
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Imran wont leave, he was offered this option but stated he has no property, banks abroad.

A man who has raised so much money for the poor, is found guilty of theft is one of biggest jokes in modern history.
 
James said:
Sounds like a list of politically motivated charges.

It could have been drawn up as part of finding an excuse to lock him away.

Can he move to the United Kingdom?
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Kaptaan is a son of the soil. He aint going anywhere, we the PK people let him down. We are people that want someone else to do the hard yards and the army knew it and hence this rubbish today. Bajwas coup and Munirs continuation, has set PK back by decades. Who will invest in a country where people will get locked up no reason. I was speaking to a friend that left the UK and he looks after our property in Islamabad, and he is looking to comeback to the UK. Even over the phone he was hesitant to express an opinion.
 
His example is a real proof why honest and hard working people leave Pakistan and prefer to live as a second class citizen abroad. Nonetheless, by and large, Pakistanis earn money by hook and crook. This system of corruption suits them all.

Imran Khan was ousted through a legal process.

He should have started preparing for the next elections instead of defacing Pakistan army and resorting to name callings. His political acumen is questionable.

As far as revolution goes, it should have happened a long time ago given the track records of Pakistan army and corrupt politicians.

In the end, Pakistan army is the monster and Pakistan population by and large, is happy the way they live. If I tell them, dogs in Germany enjoy better living standards and behave more civilized than them. They will call me a nutcase. You can not blame them when the majoity have no access to good education. Pakistan is meant for elite class and to be plundered by them.

Seems like the cricket match is over for him. I think he can keep singing "definitely not" in his jail cell and kill his time.:)
 
The last hope to see Pakistan standing among top nations is gone. Maybe Imran Khan was not wise or politically incompetent or not cut to run a country but his heart was in the right place, with him gone, welcome to purana Pakistan and in few years or decades we be like Iraq, Libya, Syria and whoever thinks this is Islam ka Qila can keep dreaming and living in a fool's paradise. All those dreaming of a revolution, well we are not cut from the cloth bringing revolution. In the end, we as a nation are getting the leaders we deserve.
 
Sherazkhalid said:
The last hope to see Pakistan standing among top nations is gone. Maybe Imran Khan was not wise or politically incompetent or not cut to run a country but his heart was in the right place, with him gone, welcome to purana Pakistan few years or decadeand in s we be like Iraq, Libya, Syria and whoever thinks this is Islam ka Qila can keep dreaming and living in a fool's paradise. All those dreaming of a revolution, well we are not cut from the cloth bringing revolution. In the end, we as a nation are getting the leaders we deserve.
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Its on the cards now, a new Libya, Syria or Iraq. These puppets will bankrupt the nation and then allow nukes to be taken away in some sort of way. We know what will come next for the people of Pakistan. Rise up now if you want your kids to be safe .
 
Fate of Pakistani PMs till date -

1. Liaquat Ali Khan: Assassinated in four years & two months

2. Khawaja Nazimuddin: Dismissed in one year & six months

3. Muhammad Ali Bogra: Forced to resign in two years and three months

4. Ch Mohammad Ali: Removed in one year and one month

5. Hussain Shaheed Suhrawardy: Removed after one year and one month

6. Ibrahim Ismail Chundrigar: Forced to resign in two months

7. Malik Feroz Khan Noon: kicked out by Ayub Khan's martial law in 10 months

8. Noorul Amin: Forced to resign in two weeks

9. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto: Removed by Zia ul haq's martial law in three years and 11 months

10. Muhammad Khan Junejo: Removed by Army chief in three years and two months

11. Benazir Bhutto: Removed by army in one year and eight months

12. Nawaz Sharif: Forced to resign by army in two years and seven months

13. Benazir Bhutto: Removed by army in three years

14. Nawaz Sharif: Removed by Musharraf's martial law in two years and eight months

15. Zafarullah Khan Jamali: Forced to resign by army in One year and seven months

16. Yousaf Raza Gilani: Removed by Supreme Court for “contempt of court” in four years and one month

17. Nawaz Sharif: Disqualified by Supreme Court-Army nexus in four years and two months

18. Imran Khan: Removed by Army-opposition in three years and seven months
 
Sherazkhalid said:
The last hope to see Pakistan standing among top nations is gone. Maybe Imran Khan was not wise or politically incompetent or not cut to run a country but his heart was in the right place, with him gone, welcome to purana Pakistan and in few years or decades we be like Iraq, Libya, Syria and whoever thinks this is Islam ka Qila can keep dreaming and living in a fool's paradise. All those dreaming of a revolution, well we are not cut from the cloth bringing revolution. In the end, we as a nation are getting the leaders we deserve.
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controversial_man said:
His example is a real proof why honest and hard working people leave Pakistan and prefer to live as a second class citizen abroad. Nonetheless, by and large, Pakistanis earn money by hook and crook. This system of corruption suits them all.

Imran Khan was ousted through a legal process.

He should have started preparing for the next elections instead of defacing Pakistan army and resorting to name callings. His political acumen is questionable.

As far as revolution goes, it should have happened a long time ago given the track records of Pakistan army and corrupt politicians.

In the end, Pakistan army is the monster and Pakistan population by and large, is happy the way they live. If I tell them, dogs in Germany enjoy better living standards and behave more civilized than them. They will call me a nutcase. You can not blame them when the majoity have no access to good education. Pakistan is meant for elite class and to be plundered by them.

Seems like the cricket match is over for him. I think he can keep singing "definitely not" in his jail cell and kill his time.:)
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Imran wasnt convicted on the basis of any legal justification.

The people have been terrorised. Women and children are in jail. Poor people who have nothing. The Iranian revolution was lead by not just the poor but educated elites and even people in the establishment.

Finally Pakistan has no future beyond what you see today. In 20 years it will look the same. Nothing will change. We had hope. Now that hope is gone. If you are a Pakistani best to leave and look.elsewhere.
 
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Kaptaan is a son of the soil. He aint going anywhere, we the PK people let him down. We are people that want someone else to do the hard yards and the army knew it and hence this rubbish today. Bajwas coup and Munirs continuation, has set PK back by decades. Who will invest in a country where people will get locked up no reason. I was speaking to a friend that left the UK and he looks after our property in Islamabad, and he is looking to comeback to the UK. Even over the phone he was hesitant to express an opinion.
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I can't see how the establishment moves things along without going after the rest. Munir has made it very clear that Imran is merely the start. He is coming for the whole.lot of them. I think the pdm are going to realise the frankenstein they have created very soon.
 
Sadly every person in Pakistan big or small if needed by the people at the top can be sent to jail for one reason or another. Some have and are looting Pakistan for billions of rupees not just politicians but even people in high jobs sadly people like that don’t get sent down to try and show others corruption won’t be tolerated anymore
 
The United States (US) has said the arrest of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief is an ‘internal matter’ of Pakistan.

Mathew Miller, the State Department spokesperson, said, “The cases against the PTI chairman and other politicians are an internal affair of Pakistan.”

Like other countries across the world, the US regularly stressed respect for democratic principles and the rule of law, Mathew Miller added.

The reaction came as a local court sentenced the PTI chairman for a three-year term and a Rs100,000 fine in the Toshakhana case on Saturday – a move that will change the country’s political landscape as the country awaits general elections.

Announcing the short judgement, the court also disqualified him for five years from holding any office and said the detailed verdict would be shared later.

Later, the PTI chief was shifted to the Central Jail Attock.

arynews.tv

PTI chief's arrest in Toshakhana 'internal matter' of Pakistan: US

WASHINGTON: The United States (US) has said the arrest of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief is an 'internal matter' of Pakistan. Mathew Miller,
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It’s a shame they don’t say this when it happens anywhere else in the world if they did the world would be a safer place. Basically if they like you they get involved if they don’t care or dislike you it’s a “internal” matter. I agree it is but just saying there’s plenty of double standards here
 
The government on Saturday vehemently denied any political motivation behind the arrest of PTI chairman and former premier Imran Khan.

Federal Information Minister Marriyum Aurangzeb, while addressing a news conference following the development, maintained that Imran was arrested because of the court’s verdict in the Toshakhana (gift repository) case and had nothing to do with the upcoming elections or political vendettas.
 
the Great Khan said:
I can't see how the establishment moves things along without going after the rest. Munir has made it very clear that Imran is merely the start. He is coming for the whole.lot of them. I think the pdm are going to realise the frankenstein they have created very soon.
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But as we know the Army Generals have a soft spot( to put it mildly) for people they can blackmail. Munir will give them crumbs as long as they stay quiet. We are in for long mafia rule as long as the Americans aren't angry because if big abbu becomes annoyed he is toast
 
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The government on Saturday vehemently denied any political motivation behind the arrest of PTI chairman and former premier Imran Khan.

Federal Information Minister Marriyum Aurangzeb, while addressing a news conference following the development, maintained that Imran was arrested because of the court’s verdict in the Toshakhana (gift repository) case and had nothing to do with the upcoming elections or political vendettas.
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These idiots have been telling everyone that IK will be arrested for months and as we knew they had a case so weak that the judge denied IK any chance to bring witnesses and all the crap about Farah Gogi was all bull as the Millitary Secretary sold the gifts. All the rubbish about under valuation wasn't even mentioned because it was all lies. An embarrassing case
 
For the West its an internal matter or more accuratley they ordered Imran never to get back into power.

West are crying over Mali, willing to help with military aid and armed help to restore 'democracy' .

In Pakistan, India or Africa its strange why so many of people in such lands love being slaves of the white westerners. Nobody but them can answer this question.
 
IK isn't allowed to meet his lawyers. This Junta and their puppets are so scared of IK that have and will break every law to stop him.
 
Imran Khan has been arrested for the second time in a matter of months, but this time the reaction looks very different. What could happen next?

There could not have been a starker contrast between 9 May and 5 August this year.

While Imran Khan's first arrest led to protests in the streets from Peshawar to Karachi, with buildings burning and the army on the streets, Saturday night was no different from any other normal night in Pakistan.

Mr Khan is currently in prison, sentenced to three years for not declaring money gained by selling state gifts.

The sentence will lead to his disqualification before the upcoming elections.

His call for peaceful protests, urging people not to sit quietly in their homes, has - for now - has not worked. Why?

Ask government ministers and they will say that it is because people do not want to follow Imran Khan or his party, the PTI - unwilling to be associated with a group responsible for previous violence. That is not the message from Mr Khan's supporters.

Imran Khan's relationship with the establishment - shorthand in Pakistan for the politically-powerful military and intelligence agencies - soured more than a year ago.

Mr Khan was widely seen by analysts as having come to power with the help of the establishment and to have subsequently lost it when that relationship deteriorated.

Emasculated movement?

Since then, instead of waiting quietly until the next election, he has continued to criticise the army's leadership. When army buildings were attacked following Mr Khan's arrest in May, the military let it be known that they had a zero-tolerance approach to those they saw as responsible.

The subsequent crackdown has left Imran Khan's party decimated.

His supporters were arrested in their thousands, and some will be tried in military courts, despite the outcry from human rights groups that the system should not be used for civilians.

Some in Pakistan's media have told us that from late May - after TV station owners met the military - journalists were no longer allowed to say Mr Khan's name, show his picture or even write his name on the tickertape.

Anecdotally, many previously vocal supporters told us that they had stopped posting about the PTI or its leader on social media, deleting their posts and no longer watching his public broadcasts, afraid of who might be watching them watching him.

The government has told the BBC that it does not arrest peaceful protesters. However, BBC Urdu journalists saw PTI supporters gathering outside Mr Khan's house in Lahore on Saturday afternoon taken away by police. It is not clear if they were formally arrested.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, a contact in the police told the BBC that they had arrested about 100 PTI supporters. He said that the force had been told to stay vigilant and ensure no Imran Khan supporters began gathering.

"I think the response from the draconian crackdown has scared Khan supporters into submission," says Michael Kugelman, director of the South Asia Institute at the Wilson Center think tank in Washington.

"I really think that the support base was unwilling to put itself at risk in the way we saw on 9 May.

"From one sense, the military has played this just right. They used these brutal tactics that really pre-empted a larger and more robust reaction from Khan's support base."

Imran Khan's legal team have made it clear that they intend to appeal against the decision to jail him.

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In the course of the last few months, his lawyers have been able to repeatedly gain some temporary relief from different courts - delaying rather than stopping some of the more serious court cases.

It's unclear if this will continue. Mr Khan saw his arrest dramatically overturned back in May, but in a very different political environment.

Imran Khan is one of several former Pakistani leaders who have ended up in the courts - Nawaz Sharif, Benazir Bhutto and the military dictator Pervez Musharraf, to name just a few in recent decades.

Mr Khan imprisoned several of his own political rivals while serving as prime minister.

Pakistan's politicians will often say that the justice system is politically motivated against them, while justified against their opposition.

If Imran Khan remains disqualified from holding public office, there are big questions about what will happen to his party.

Mr Khan has told us previously that the PTI will live on and thrive, whether he is able to be elected or not. That is far from a certainty.

"The next big question, given the election, is how will the remaining leadership of the PTI try to mobilise?" says Mr Kugelman.

"Will they try to get their supporters out on the streets, will that be successful? It will be a good test."

The PTI is a party created by and centred on Mr Khan. Even its logo printed on voting forms is the symbol of a cricket bat, a nod to Mr Khan's previous career as an international cricketer.

Many of the senior political figures that surrounded Mr Khan earlier this year have since left his party. Others involved in his party are in hiding, evading arrest.

None of these suggests it would be easy for the party to run an effective political campaign.

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Hopefully he does his time now.

BTW, the street power of pti has been puss. Leader arrested again and non of them came out.

All the talk of revolution standing up etc etc :)). Asim munir and Rana sanaullah sey dar gaye
 
Hitman said:
Fate of Pakistani PMs till date -

1. Liaquat Ali Khan: Assassinated in four years & two months

2. Khawaja Nazimuddin: Dismissed in one year & six months

3. Muhammad Ali Bogra: Forced to resign in two years and three months

4. Ch Mohammad Ali: Removed in one year and one month

5. Hussain Shaheed Suhrawardy: Removed after one year and one month

6. Ibrahim Ismail Chundrigar: Forced to resign in two months

7. Malik Feroz Khan Noon: kicked out by Ayub Khan's martial law in 10 months

8. Noorul Amin: Forced to resign in two weeks

9. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto: Removed by Zia ul haq's martial law in three years and 11 months

10. Muhammad Khan Junejo: Removed by Army chief in three years and two months

11. Benazir Bhutto: Removed by army in one year and eight months

12. Nawaz Sharif: Forced to resign by army in two years and seven months

13. Benazir Bhutto: Removed by army in three years

14. Nawaz Sharif: Removed by Musharraf's martial law in two years and eight months

15. Zafarullah Khan Jamali: Forced to resign by army in One year and seven months

16. Yousaf Raza Gilani: Removed by Supreme Court for “contempt of court” in four years and one month

17. Nawaz Sharif: Disqualified by Supreme Court-Army nexus in four years and two months

18. Imran Khan: Removed by Army-opposition in three years and seven months
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A very mis leading post. Especially since we had change in constitution and form of government. Plus, there were presidents that held more power
 
Major said:
Hopefully he does his time now.

BTW, the street power of pti has been puss. Leader arrested again and non of them came out.

All the talk of revolution standing up etc etc :)). Asim munir and Rana sanaullah sey dar gaye
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50% of PTI supporters live abroad and step foot in Pakistan only once a year at best.

The other 50% even if they live in Pakistan reside on Twitter/TikTok.

Coupled with Imran Khan filling his party with fragile discards from the parties he vowed to be different from and making a deal with the devil (military), his fate was inevitable.
 
Varun said:
50% of PTI supporters live abroad and step foot in Pakistan only once a year at best.

The other 50% even if they live in Pakistan reside on Twitter/TikTok.

Coupled with Imran Khan filling his party with fragile discards from the parties he vowed to be different from and making a deal with the devil (military), his fate was inevitable.
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50% of supporters?

You may be talking about Social media - Surely you are not talking about the vote bank?
 
MenInG said:
50% of supporters?

You may be talking about Social media - Surely you are not talking about the vote bank?
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How much of this vote bank is a vote bank anymore? All of the so-called 'electables' are out of the party, and not much has happened on the ground by said vote bank since Imran Khan has been put through the meat grinder over the last year and a half.

Don't tell me that the vote bank are patiently waiting for an election - everybody knows that it's going to be rigged.
 
KingKhanWC said:
For the West its an internal matter or more accuratley they ordered Imran never to get back into power.

West are crying over Mali, willing to help with military aid and armed help to restore 'democracy' .

In Pakistan, India or Africa its strange why so many of people in such lands love being slaves of the white westerners. Nobody but them can answer this question.
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Yes because you don’t mess with nuclear armed states in their internal matters. The west isn’t as stupid as you may want them to be in this case
 
Varun said:
50% of PTI supporters live abroad and step foot in Pakistan only once a year at best.

The other 50% even if they live in Pakistan reside on Twitter/TikTok.

Coupled with Imran Khan filling his party with fragile discards from the parties he vowed to be different from and making a deal with the devil (military), his fate was inevitable.
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You Ind guys seem to be just as desperate as our Generals. IK has somewhere between 70-80% support
If he had 50% they would have managed the elections through rigging but they cant. As it stands the Nooras will get wiped from Punjab and the PPP has already been wiped from Punjab. KP will go 90% PTI and if there was no rigging IK would destroy the pathetic rump of criminals that is called the PPP in Sindh.
 
Major said:
Hopefully he does his time now.

BTW, the street power of pti has been puss. Leader arrested again and non of them came out.

All the talk of revolution standing up etc etc :)). Asim munir and Rana sanaullah sey dar gaye
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So on the one hand you have arrested 10,000 workers and reps, then 144 is imposed everywhere and anyone that dares to demonstrate is arrested and their families are beaten and kids are taken as collateral and then you claim, no one came. So why all these measures if no one came. If beghairati had a name
 
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan’s lawyer on Monday moved the Islamabad High Court (IHC) for the transfer of the former prime minister from Attock district prison to Adiala Jail.

In a petition, the lawyer requested the court to transfer the deposed premier to Adiala Jail where A-class facilities are available, adding that his family, lawyers and Dr Sultan should be allowed to meet him.

He maintained that meeting his lawyers, legal team and family is the fundamental right of the party chairman.

Imran transferred to ‘better' cell

In a separate development, it was reported that the former prime minister was shifted to cell no 2 in Attock jail, which has high security and “better facilities”.

Size of cell no 2 is bigger than the previous one and has a table, chair, mattress, and bed.

Moreover, a medical officer has been deputed for 24 hours to conduct Imran's medical examination in three shifts. Security inside and outside the jail is also on high alert.

Commandos of the prison department are continuously deployed, while the external sides of the cells are also being monitored by CCTV cameras.

Without the permission of the superintendent, no jail officer is allowed to enter the cell where the PTI chief is imprisoned. A Rescue 1122 ambulance with paramedic staff is also kept outside the jail 24 hours a day.

Sources said that the deposed prime minister’s legal team is expected to meet him today.

Imran was awarded a three-year jail term by Additional District and Sessions Judge (ADSJ) Humayun Dilawar, in the case filed by the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) for concealing Toshakhana gifts he had retained.

Read More Govt denies political motive for Imran’s arrest

Following the conviction, the judge issued his arrest warrant, which was complied with in Lahore. After the arrest, the PTI chief was initially being shifted to the Adiala Jail in Rawalpindi by road amid tight security.

However, because of security concerns, the plan was changed. Later, the police convoy carrying the PTI chief was diverted from Islamabad Motorway at 26 roundabout to the Attock Jail via Hasan Abdal.

Additional Sessions Judge Humayun Dilawar also disqualified the PTI chief for five years, apparently ending his prospects for taking part in the elections slated for November this year, provided that superior courts do not come to his rescue this time.

The trial court said while filing Form-B for the financial year 2018-2019, Imran had declared "four goats" as his assets but omitted to disclose the purchase of precious gifts from the state’s gift repository—Toshakhana—as well as their sale to different people.

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Sham case. Sham judgement. Sham Judge. Thankfully the judgement is not extended to slicing the hands or cutting off limbs as the Judge made sure he went for maximum penalty thankfully he didn't had Saudi legal handbook on his desk that day otherwise he would have easily made this decision.

For some who are not aware of the facts of the case hear this out. One of the country's greatest philanthropist is declared a petty thief where he received the gifts in the state depositary and acquired from state depositary by paying the required amount then paid taxes on these gifts to FBR. Now the Judge decided that given these gifts have taken by Khan why are these not named in his declaration for election papers. But that idiot Judge failed to understand that once an asset is sold its then converted into cash (which is also asset). Therefore once Khan sold those gifts he replaced them with cash which is on his nomination papers. To explain this to idiot Judge Khan nominated his financial advisors to speak in court which the Judge ruled were "irrelevant". This judgement is such a mockery that its not even funny anymore.
 
Varun said:
50% of PTI supporters live abroad and step foot in Pakistan only once a year at best.

The other 50% even if they live in Pakistan reside on Twitter/TikTok.

Coupled with Imran Khan filling his party with fragile discards from the parties he vowed to be different from and making a deal with the devil (military), his fate was inevitable.
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Outsiders always have the worst takes on Pakistani politics(especially those from the East). PTI got more votes in 2018(17M) than there is a total number of overseas Pakistanis around the world. Given that PTI's voters are predominantly young, their vote bank has only increased in 2023 as more people have entered the legal voting age.

I hope you realize how ridiculous your assessment is.
 
Bewal Express said:
You Ind guys seem to be just as desperate as our Generals. IK has somewhere between 70-80% support
If he had 50% they would have managed the elections through rigging but they cant. As it stands the Nooras will get wiped from Punjab and the PPP has already been wiped from Punjab. KP will go 90% PTI and if there was no rigging IK would destroy the pathetic rump of criminals that is called the PPP in Sindh.
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Well clearly 70-80% support isn't keeping him out of a jail cell at the moment.

How much % will? 700-800% perhaps.
 
MenInG said:
ISLAMABAD: pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan’s lawyer on Monday moved the Islamabad High Court (IHC) for the transfer of the former prime minister from Attock district prison to Adiala Jail.

In a petition, the lawyer requested the court to transfer the deposed premier to Adiala Jail where A-class facilities are available, adding that his family, lawyers and Dr Sultan should be allowed to meet him.

He maintained that meeting his lawyers, legal team and family is the fundamental right of the party chairman.

Imran transferred to ‘better' cell

In a separate development, it was reported that the former prime minister was shifted to cell no 2 in Attock jail, which has high security and “better facilities”.

Size of cell no 2 is bigger than the previous one and has a table, chair, mattress, and bed.

Moreover, a medical officer has been deputed for 24 hours to conduct Imran's medical examination in three shifts. Security inside and outside the jail is also on high alert.

Commandos of the prison department are continuously deployed, while the external sides of the cells are also being monitored by CCTV cameras.

Without the permission of the superintendent, no jail officer is allowed to enter the cell where the PTI chief is imprisoned. A Rescue 1122 ambulance with paramedic staff is also kept outside the jail 24 hours a day.

Sources said that the deposed prime minister’s legal team is expected to meet him today.

Imran was awarded a three-year jail term by Additional District and Sessions Judge (ADSJ) Humayun Dilawar, in the case filed by the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) for concealing Toshakhana gifts he had retained.

Read More Govt denies political motive for Imran’s arrest

Following the conviction, the judge issued his arrest warrant, which was complied with in Lahore. After the arrest, the PTI chief was initially being shifted to the Adiala Jail in Rawalpindi by road amid tight security.

However, because of security concerns, the plan was changed. Later, the police convoy carrying the PTI chief was diverted from Islamabad Motorway at 26 roundabout to the Attock Jail via Hasan Abdal.

Additional Sessions Judge Humayun Dilawar also disqualified the PTI chief for five years, apparently ending his prospects for taking part in the elections slated for November this year, provided that superior courts do not come to his rescue this time.

The trial court said while filing Form-B for the financial year 2018-2019, Imran had declared "four goats" as his assets but omitted to disclose the purchase of precious gifts from the state’s gift repository—Toshakhana—as well as their sale to different people.

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Varun said:
Well clearly 70-80% support isn't keeping him out of a jail cell at the moment.

How much % will? 700-800% perhaps.
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Ind was controlled by the British with troops that numbered no more than 50,000. Why was that?
 
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Ind was controlled by the British with troops that numbered no more than 50,000. Why was that?
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Because the Indian powers were fragmented, still stuck in the middle ages, fighting among each other, and capitulated to Britain who were reaping the fruits of the industrial revolution.

In fact there was no 'India' per-se. If "70-80%" of the land was united, they would have been able to defy the British.
 
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Sham case. Sham judgement. Sham Judge. Thankfully the judgement is not extended to slicing the hands or cutting off limbs as the Judge made sure he went for maximum penalty thankfully he didn't had Saudi legal handbook on his desk that day otherwise he would have easily made this decision.

For some who are not aware of the facts of the case hear this out. One of the country's greatest philanthropist is declared a petty thief where he received the gifts in the state depositary and acquired from state depositary by paying the required amount then paid taxes on these gifts to FBR. Now the Judge decided that given these gifts have taken by Khan why are these not named in his declaration for election papers. But that idiot Judge failed to understand that once an asset is sold its then converted into cash (which is also asset). Therefore once Khan sold those gifts he replaced them with cash which is on his nomination papers. To explain this to idiot Judge Khan nominated his financial advisors to speak in court which the Judge ruled were "irrelevant". This judgement is such a mockery that its not even funny anymore.
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You need an education to understand the difference between a fixed asset and liquid asset and when one converts into another. They found the guy most compromised to oversee a case that would have a taken even a child to see through in a few minutes. The double team of Farooq and Dallawar are the useful idiots. PKs biggest philanthropist,most trusted person is jailed for being too popular, whilst the haraamis that have looted and destroyed PK have aligned with our saviours to send him down.
 
Varun said:
Because the Indian powers were fragmented, still stuck in the middle ages, fighting among each other, and capitulated to Britain who were reaping the fruits of the industrial revolution.

In fact there was no 'India' per-se. If "70-80%" of the land was united, they would have been able to defy the British.
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But they did because they had guns.
 
So embarrassed are the mafia and their supporters that they have disappeared from view. So after all the hype about the smoking gun, all they could do him for is the failure to break down the details of the sold asset, when the amount is stated. No corruption, no undervaluation, no farah gogi and where is that guy that told us he purchased for $8mn. Where are haraam khors that were posting on here based on the lies of Geo.
 
Former prime minister Imran Khan’s lawyer, Naeem Haider Panjotha, claimed on Monday that the PTI chief — who is currently incarcerated in Attock Jail in a graft case — was being kept in “distressing conditions” and provided “C-Class jail facilities”.

On Aug 5, an Islamabad trial court had declared Imran guilty of “corrupt practices” in a case pertaining to concealing details of state gifts and sentenced him to three years in prison. Soon after the verdict, he was arrested by the Punjab police from his Zaman Park residence in Lahore.

The ex-premier was given B-Class facilities by the Punjab prisons department. However, his lawyers and the party claimed on Sunday they were not allowed by the jail administration to meet the PTI chairman.

DAWN
 
MenInG said:
Former prime minister Imran Khan’s lawyer, Naeem Haider Panjotha, claimed on Monday that the PTI chief — who is currently incarcerated in Attock Jail in a graft case — was being kept in “distressing conditions” and provided “C-Class jail facilities”.

On Aug 5, an Islamabad trial court had declared Imran guilty of “corrupt practices” in a case pertaining to concealing details of state gifts and sentenced him to three years in prison. Soon after the verdict, he was arrested by the Punjab police from his Zaman Park residence in Lahore.

The ex-premier was given B-Class facilities by the Punjab prisons department. However, his lawyers and the party claimed on Sunday they were not allowed by the jail administration to meet the PTI chairman.

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IK treated worse than a murder, whilst all the biggest criminals are in govt. This fact alone will haunt PK for generations.
 
The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) on Monday decided to remove Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan from his post as party’s head, ARY News reported, citing sources.

Sources told ARY News that an important meeting was held at the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) where the electoral body decided to remove PTI chief Imran Khan from his post as party head.

Under the chairmanship of Chief Election Commissioner (CEC) Sikandar Sultan Raja, the commission reviewed the situation after the PTI chief’s arrest.

The meeting also reviewed the written verdict of Islamabad’s session court, which found him guilty of ‘corrupt practices’ in Toshakhana case’.

Subsequently, it was decided that following his conviction, Imran Khan was no longer eligible to hold office as the PTI chairman. Therefore, the ECP is now to issue orders dismissing him from the post.

Sources claimed that the electoral watchdog will make a formal announcement soon.

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ECP decides to strip PTI chief of party’s chairmanship

ISLAMABAD: The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) on Monday decided to remove Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan from his post as party’s
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The corruption and injustice in Pakistan is so blatant and shameless, I can't help but feel sorry for those living in Pakistan.

It must be worse for those who live alongside the buzdil insaan that bootlick Bilawal and Marayam Nawaz
 
On August 5, a trial court in Islamabad had sentenced Imran to three years in prison in the case. The verdict also disqualified Imran from contesting general elections.

“He [Imran] cheated while providing information about gifts he obtained from Toshakhana which later proved to be false and inaccurate. His dishonesty has been established beyond doubt,” the 30-page court order said.

The police, already on standby in anticipation of a verdict in the hearing, swung into action minutes after Additional District and Sessions Judge Humayun Dilawar announced the judgment and arrested him from his Zaman Park residence in Lahore.


Today, Imran filed a petition in the IHC — through his lawyers — against the trial court’s August 5 verdict, saying that the said order was “not sustainable” and “liable to be set aside”.

The plea, a copy of which is available with Dawn.com, named the district election commissioner of Islamabad as the respondent in the case.

It stated that the judgment passed by the trial court judge was “tainted with bias, is a nullity in the eye of the law and is liable to be set aside”.

Explaining the grounds for its request, the plea said that the Aug 5 order was passed “with the pre-disposed mind” of the trial court judge to convict and sentence the appellant “irrespective of the merits of the case”.

It said the order was issued without providing the petitioner with a chance to fight his case and alleged that ADSJ Dilawar had refused to hear the arguments of Khawaja Haris, Imran’s counsel in the Toshakhana case, on the pretext that he was late — which the plea claimed was because he was filing other applications with the Supreme Court and IHC.

“The impugned judgment was announced despite the fact that before commencement counsel for the appellant was very much in court fully prepared to address arguments after explaining the reasons for the delay in arriving in court, but the trial judge, who throughout the proceedings had been exhibiting his extreme bias towards the appellant and his counsel, and constantly using disparaging remarks against them, even in their absence, was bent on carrying out a well-orchestrated plan […].”

This, the petition said, was a “slap in the face due process and fair trial” and “a gross travesty of justice”.

It further alleged that the Aug 5 judgment was “already written” by the trial court judge, highlighting how the latter only took “30 minutes” to “dictate more than 35 pages” of the judgment.

Moreover, the petition said the verdict was in violation of the IHC’s Aug 4 orders, in which the high court had asked the trial court to “decide afresh” on the PTI chief’s application pertaining to the maintainability of the Toshakhana case.

Referring to the Supreme Court rules, the plea highlighted that “proceedings held by the learned trial court judge culminating in the conviction of the appellant in the instant case are corum non judice without jurisdiction thereby rendering the conviction and sentence of appellant void ab initio nugatory in the eyes of the law”.

It also highlighted that there was not an “iota” of evidence presented by the prosecution regarding the Toshakhana gifts and none of the witnesses provided by the ECP presented evidence in the case.

“The prosecution has not let any evidence whatsoever that the appellant had transferred any asset during any of the relevant financial years without adequate consideration or by revocable transfer.”

The petition subsequently prayed that the trial court verdict be set aside, while also urging the court to declare Imran’s conviction and sentence “illegal and without lawful authority”, and to acquit him of the charges.

PTI lawyers granted permission to meet Imran​

Separately, the IHC granted Imran’s lawyers permission to meet the PTI chief at Attock Jail as the court took up a petition filed by the party seeking A-Class facilities for the ex-premier.

It urged that Imran be allowed to regularly meet with his legal team, family members, personal doctor Dr Faisal Sultan and political aides — the lists for which were also submitted to the court.

After his arrest, Imran was given B-Class facilities by the Punjab prisons department. However, his lawyers and the party claimed they were not allowed by the jail administration to meet the PTI chairman.

A day earlier, Naeem Haider Panjotha, spokesman to Imran on legal affairs, was finally allowed to meet the PTI chief. Talking to reporters after the meeting, which lasted one hour and 45 minutes, the lawyer said Imran was being kept in “distressing conditions” and provided “C-Class jail facilities”.

Today, the IHC registrar initially raised objections to the petition, which were later removed by PTI lawyer Sher Afzal Marwat.

During the hearing, IHC Chief Justice Aamer Farooq said that the court would issue an order as per the prison rules. “Keep this in mind that an order will be released for the provision of those facilities that are mentioned in the prison rules.”

The judge then asked Marwat to provide the names of two to three lawyers for meeting with Imran, adding that an order would be issued according to that.

Toshakhana case​

The case, filed by ruling party lawmakers, is based on a criminal complaint filed by the ECP.

The case alleges that Imran had “deliberately concealed” details of the gifts he retained from the Toshaskhana — a repository where presents handed to government officials from foreign officials are kept — during his time as the prime minister and proceeds from their reported sales.

According to Toshakhana rules, gifts/presents and other such materials received by persons to whom these rules apply shall be reported to the Cabinet Division.

Imran has faced a number of legal issues over his retention of gifts. The issue also led to his disqualification by the ECP.

On Oct 21, 2022, the ECP concluded that the former premier had indeed made “false statements and incorrect declarations” regarding the gifts.

The watchdog’s order had said Imran stood disqualified under Article 63(1)(p) of the Constitution.

Subsequently, the ECP had approached the Islamabad sessions court with a copy of the complaint, seeking proceedings against Imran under criminal law for allegedly misleading officials about the gifts he received from foreign dignitaries during his tenure as the prime minister.

On May 10, Imran was indicted in the case. However, on July 4, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) had stayed the proceeding and directed ADSJ Dilawar to re-examine the matter in seven days, keeping in view eight legal questions he framed to decide the maintainability of the Toshakhana reference.

The questions had included whether the complaint was filed on behalf of the ECP by a duly authorised person, whether the ECP’s decision of Oct 21, 2022, was a valid authorisation to any officer of ECP to file a complaint, and whether the question of authorisation was a question of fact and evidence and could be ratified subsequently during the course of proceedings.

Finally, on July 9, ADSJ Dilawar while ruling that the reference was maintainable, revived the stalled proceedings and summoned the witnesses for testimony.

A session court had last month declared that the ECP reference against the PTI chief was maintainable. The decision was subsequently challenged in the IHC.

Last week, Judge Dilawar had ruled that Imran’s legal team failed to prove the relevance of his witnesses. He had warned the defence counsel to conclude the arguments, or else the court would reserve an order.

On August 3, the IHC gave a short breather to Imran, asking the judge to re-examine the jurisdiction and any procedure lapse in the filing of the complaint by the ECP. However, a day later, the trial court convicted the ex-premier.
 
Hey folks,

Here is a short break down:

What Happened: Islamabad's trial court sentenced Imran to 3 years in jail. They say he hid info about gifts he got while he was PM.

Why It's Fishy: Imran's team says the court's verdict was biased. They even mention that the judgment was super-fast, like suspiciously so (35 pages in 30 mins? 🤨).

Legal Drama: Imran's peeps have appealed. They say the verdict goes against higher court orders and the judge had already made up his mind before the trial. They're also questioning the evidence (or lack thereof) against Imran.

Jail Update: Imran's in Attock Jail and initially got some B-Class treatment. His team's fighting for A-Class facilities and say he's kinda having a rough time right now.

The Case in a Nutshell: It's all about gifts Imran kept from his time as PM. The rules say you gotta report gifts to a specific department, and there's a dispute about whether he did that properly.

Stay tuned for more updates!
 
Danyal A said:
On August 5, a trial court in Islamabad had sentenced Imran to three years in prison in the case. The verdict also disqualified Imran from contesting general elections.

“He [Imran] cheated while providing information about gifts he obtained from Toshakhana which later proved to be false and inaccurate. His dishonesty has been established beyond doubt,” the 30-page court order said.

The police, already on standby in anticipation of a verdict in the hearing, swung into action minutes after Additional District and Sessions Judge Humayun Dilawar announced the judgment and arrested him from his Zaman Park residence in Lahore.


Today, Imran filed a petition in the IHC — through his lawyers — against the trial court’s August 5 verdict, saying that the said order was “not sustainable” and “liable to be set aside”.

The plea, a copy of which is available with Dawn.com, named the district election commissioner of Islamabad as the respondent in the case.

It stated that the judgment passed by the trial court judge was “tainted with bias, is a nullity in the eye of the law and is liable to be set aside”.

Explaining the grounds for its request, the plea said that the Aug 5 order was passed “with the pre-disposed mind” of the trial court judge to convict and sentence the appellant “irrespective of the merits of the case”.

It said the order was issued without providing the petitioner with a chance to fight his case and alleged that ADSJ Dilawar had refused to hear the arguments of Khawaja Haris, Imran’s counsel in the Toshakhana case, on the pretext that he was late — which the plea claimed was because he was filing other applications with the Supreme Court and IHC.

“The impugned judgment was announced despite the fact that before commencement counsel for the appellant was very much in court fully prepared to address arguments after explaining the reasons for the delay in arriving in court, but the trial judge, who throughout the proceedings had been exhibiting his extreme bias towards the appellant and his counsel, and constantly using disparaging remarks against them, even in their absence, was bent on carrying out a well-orchestrated plan […].”

This, the petition said, was a “slap in the face due process and fair trial” and “a gross travesty of justice”.

It further alleged that the Aug 5 judgment was “already written” by the trial court judge, highlighting how the latter only took “30 minutes” to “dictate more than 35 pages” of the judgment.

Moreover, the petition said the verdict was in violation of the IHC’s Aug 4 orders, in which the high court had asked the trial court to “decide afresh” on the PTI chief’s application pertaining to the maintainability of the Toshakhana case.

Referring to the Supreme Court rules, the plea highlighted that “proceedings held by the learned trial court judge culminating in the conviction of the appellant in the instant case are corum non judice without jurisdiction thereby rendering the conviction and sentence of appellant void ab initio nugatory in the eyes of the law”.

It also highlighted that there was not an “iota” of evidence presented by the prosecution regarding the Toshakhana gifts and none of the witnesses provided by the ECP presented evidence in the case.

“The prosecution has not let any evidence whatsoever that the appellant had transferred any asset during any of the relevant financial years without adequate consideration or by revocable transfer.”

The petition subsequently prayed that the trial court verdict be set aside, while also urging the court to declare Imran’s conviction and sentence “illegal and without lawful authority”, and to acquit him of the charges.

PTI lawyers granted permission to meet Imran​

Separately, the IHC granted Imran’s lawyers permission to meet the PTI chief at Attock Jail as the court took up a petition filed by the party seeking A-Class facilities for the ex-premier.

It urged that Imran be allowed to regularly meet with his legal team, family members, personal doctor Dr Faisal Sultan and political aides — the lists for which were also submitted to the court.

After his arrest, Imran was given B-Class facilities by the Punjab prisons department. However, his lawyers and the party claimed they were not allowed by the jail administration to meet the PTI chairman.

A day earlier, Naeem Haider Panjotha, spokesman to Imran on legal affairs, was finally allowed to meet the PTI chief. Talking to reporters after the meeting, which lasted one hour and 45 minutes, the lawyer said Imran was being kept in “distressing conditions” and provided “C-Class jail facilities”.

Today, the IHC registrar initially raised objections to the petition, which were later removed by PTI lawyer Sher Afzal Marwat.

During the hearing, IHC Chief Justice Aamer Farooq said that the court would issue an order as per the prison rules. “Keep this in mind that an order will be released for the provision of those facilities that are mentioned in the prison rules.”

The judge then asked Marwat to provide the names of two to three lawyers for meeting with Imran, adding that an order would be issued according to that.

Toshakhana case​

The case, filed by ruling party lawmakers, is based on a criminal complaint filed by the ECP.

The case alleges that Imran had “deliberately concealed” details of the gifts he retained from the Toshaskhana — a repository where presents handed to government officials from foreign officials are kept — during his time as the prime minister and proceeds from their reported sales.

According to Toshakhana rules, gifts/presents and other such materials received by persons to whom these rules apply shall be reported to the Cabinet Division.

Imran has faced a number of legal issues over his retention of gifts. The issue also led to his disqualification by the ECP.

On Oct 21, 2022, the ECP concluded that the former premier had indeed made “false statements and incorrect declarations” regarding the gifts.

The watchdog’s order had said Imran stood disqualified under Article 63(1)(p) of the Constitution.

Subsequently, the ECP had approached the Islamabad sessions court with a copy of the complaint, seeking proceedings against Imran under criminal law for allegedly misleading officials about the gifts he received from foreign dignitaries during his tenure as the prime minister.

On May 10, Imran was indicted in the case. However, on July 4, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) had stayed the proceeding and directed ADSJ Dilawar to re-examine the matter in seven days, keeping in view eight legal questions he framed to decide the maintainability of the Toshakhana reference.

The questions had included whether the complaint was filed on behalf of the ECP by a duly authorised person, whether the ECP’s decision of Oct 21, 2022, was a valid authorisation to any officer of ECP to file a complaint, and whether the question of authorisation was a question of fact and evidence and could be ratified subsequently during the course of proceedings.

Finally, on July 9, ADSJ Dilawar while ruling that the reference was maintainable, revived the stalled proceedings and summoned the witnesses for testimony.

A session court had last month declared that the ECP reference against the PTI chief was maintainable. The decision was subsequently challenged in the IHC.

Last week, Judge Dilawar had ruled that Imran’s legal team failed to prove the relevance of his witnesses. He had warned the defence counsel to conclude the arguments, or else the court would reserve an order.

On August 3, the IHC gave a short breather to Imran, asking the judge to re-examine the jurisdiction and any procedure lapse in the filing of the complaint by the ECP. However, a day later, the trial court convicted the ex-premier.
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He wrote 35 pages in 30 minutes and all that with correct statutes quoted. :oops::oops::oops:
 
Last week, the Russian dissident Alexei Navalny was sentenced to 19 years in a penal colony - accused of financing "extremism" and "rehabilitating the Nazi ideology".

Quite rightly, the United States and Britain instantly denounced the move, with the US State Department describing the conviction as "an unjust conclusion to an unjust trial".

Britain's Foreign Secretary James Cleverly claimed the outcome "shows Russia's complete disregard for even the most basic of human rights", piously adding: "Dissent cannot be silenced."

Three days later, Imran Khan - until last year, the democratically elected prime minister of Pakistan - was sentenced to three years' imprisonment, courtesy of what looked like a kangaroo court, under murky circumstances.

These two cases are eerily similar. Few believe the charges laid against Navalny. Yet it is vital for President Vladimir Putin to remove him from the political stage - especially with Russian presidential elections scheduled to be held in March 2024.

Likewise, few believe the corruption charges laid against Khan carry any plausibility. Yet it is vital to get him out of the way ahead of Pakistan's general election, scheduled for this autumn.

There are dark forces which want both men out of the way. Navalny was subject to an attempted poisoning three years ago, while Khan was wounded in an assassination attempt late last year.

Let's spit out the ugly truth. Alexei Navalny and Imran Khan are both political prisoners, held on trumped-up charges by the Russian and Pakistan authorities.

Yet the West is only concerned about the fate of one of them.

Double standards​


US Secretary of State Antony Blinken was swift to condemn the additional jail sentence imposed on Navalny, condemning "Russia's conviction of opposition leader Alexei Navalny on politically motivated charges. The Kremlin cannot silence the truth. Navalny should be released".

No US condemnation of Khan's politically motivated trial.

British Foreign Secretary Cleverly was guilty of the same double standard.

Both Britain and America will be well aware that the charges against Khan - profiteering from official gifts - are flimsy.

In fact, when Khan was in office, he changed the law so that it would be more difficult for politicians to profit from gifts received on foreign visits.

Previously, if an official wanted to retain an item, they were able to purchase it at 20 percent of the value set by the Toshakhana evaluation committee. During his premiership, Khan raised the fee to 50 percent.

Khan is probably the least corrupt politician - admittedly not a high bar - in Pakistan's modern history. He represents a reversion to the early school of post-independence politicians, from the Qaid-i-Azam, Mohammed Ali Jinnah, to the country's first president, Iskandar Mirza, whose integrity was absolute.

None of this matters to the US and Britain, which have always preferred to deal with dictators who are pliable to their interests: Mohammad Ayub Khan, installed in a military coup in 1958; General Mohammad Zia-ul-Haq, who ruled with an iron fist during the 1970s and 80s; and more recently General Pervez Musharraf, who came to power in a bloodless coup in 1999 and served as Pakistan's president from 2001 to 2008.

History proves that the US is structurally hostile to any Pakistani political leader with a democratic mandate.

Lonely battle​

Khan, to his enormous credit, had set out to challenge the deeply corrupt, dynastic two-party system that has dominated Pakistani politics, through the Bhutto family's Pakistan People's Party (PPP) and Sharif family's Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N), for more than half a century.

In doing so, he sought to end the country's status as a client state of the US.

Almost unheard of among recent generations of Pakistani leaders, he stuck to his principles - falling afoul of the US in the process.

Throughout his long period in opposition, he fought a lonely battle against the US's brutal war on terror, condemning drone strikes and standing up for the rule of law.

To his credit, Khan remained a thorn in the flesh of the US once in power. But he has paid the price.

I trace his demise to the fall of Kabul in August 2021, when Khan clashed with Washington over the freezing of Afghan state assets, as well as the American desire for access to Pakistani airspace.

From that moment, his card was marked. Khan had the impertinence to defy the US: the Biden administration's refusal to denounce his imprisonment amounts to complicity.

I love Pakistan, have travelled to this beautiful country many times, and have respect for the Pakistan army and its role in maintaining stability after independence 75 years ago. But it is widely reported to be the architect of Khan's downfall.

Not for the first time, it is allowing itself to be dragged into national politics.

Deceitful claims​

Imran Khan is today the most popular politician in the country. Polls indicate that he would sweep to victory in any free and fair election.

Holding an election in Pakistan without Khan would be like putting on Shakespeare's Hamlet without the prince.

Whoever wins an election without Khan would carry zero political legitimacy, and be despised as the local client ruler, ruling on behalf of the United States.

Holding an election in Pakistan without Imran Khan would be like putting on Shakespeare's 'Hamlet' without the prince
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As for Khan, he has joined the long list of democratically legitimate national leaders who had the temerity to affect the US by striking out with an independent foreign policy.

Mohamed Morsi, Egypt's first democratically elected civilian president, spent his final years in jail before dying in court.

Salvador Allende of Chile dared to win an election that the US wanted him to lose - and was dislodged from office in the most brutal of circumstances.

Ali Bhutto, Pakistan's first democratically elected leader, who challenged the US by building an alliance of non-aligned nations, ended up in a prison where he was judicially murdered.

Mohammad Mosaddegh of Iran. Too many others.

The silence of the US and Britain, both countries which deceitfully claim to believe in democracy, says it all.

www.middleeasteye.net

Imran Khan is exactly what the US hates in a Pakistani politician: principled

Lack of condemnation from the US over Khan's politically motivated imprisonment only confirms Washington's long history of preferring dictators pliable to its interests
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MenInG said:
Last week, the Russian dissident Alexei Navalny was sentenced to 19 years in a penal colony - accused of financing "extremism" and "rehabilitating the Nazi ideology".

Quite rightly, the United States and Britain instantly denounced the move, with the US State Department describing the conviction as "an unjust conclusion to an unjust trial".

Britain's Foreign Secretary James Cleverly claimed the outcome "shows Russia's complete disregard for even the most basic of human rights", piously adding: "Dissent cannot be silenced."

Three days later, Imran Khan - until last year, the democratically elected prime minister of Pakistan - was sentenced to three years' imprisonment, courtesy of what looked like a kangaroo court, under murky circumstances.

These two cases are eerily similar. Few believe the charges laid against Navalny. Yet it is vital for President Vladimir Putin to remove him from the political stage - especially with Russian presidential elections scheduled to be held in March 2024.

Likewise, few believe the corruption charges laid against Khan carry any plausibility. Yet it is vital to get him out of the way ahead of Pakistan's general election, scheduled for this autumn.

There are dark forces which want both men out of the way. Navalny was subject to an attempted poisoning three years ago, while Khan was wounded in an assassination attempt late last year.

Let's spit out the ugly truth. Alexei Navalny and Imran Khan are both political prisoners, held on trumped-up charges by the Russian and Pakistan authorities.

Yet the West is only concerned about the fate of one of them.

Double standards​


US Secretary of State Antony Blinken was swift to condemn the additional jail sentence imposed on Navalny, condemning "Russia's conviction of opposition leader Alexei Navalny on politically motivated charges. The Kremlin cannot silence the truth. Navalny should be released".

No US condemnation of Khan's politically motivated trial.

British Foreign Secretary Cleverly was guilty of the same double standard.

Both Britain and America will be well aware that the charges against Khan - profiteering from official gifts - are flimsy.

In fact, when Khan was in office, he changed the law so that it would be more difficult for politicians to profit from gifts received on foreign visits.

Previously, if an official wanted to retain an item, they were able to purchase it at 20 percent of the value set by the Toshakhana evaluation committee. During his premiership, Khan raised the fee to 50 percent.

Khan is probably the least corrupt politician - admittedly not a high bar - in Pakistan's modern history. He represents a reversion to the early school of post-independence politicians, from the Qaid-i-Azam, Mohammed Ali Jinnah, to the country's first president, Iskandar Mirza, whose integrity was absolute.

None of this matters to the US and Britain, which have always preferred to deal with dictators who are pliable to their interests: Mohammad Ayub Khan, installed in a military coup in 1958; General Mohammad Zia-ul-Haq, who ruled with an iron fist during the 1970s and 80s; and more recently General Pervez Musharraf, who came to power in a bloodless coup in 1999 and served as Pakistan's president from 2001 to 2008.

History proves that the US is structurally hostile to any Pakistani political leader with a democratic mandate.

Lonely battle​

Khan, to his enormous credit, had set out to challenge the deeply corrupt, dynastic two-party system that has dominated Pakistani politics, through the Bhutto family's Pakistan People's Party (PPP) and Sharif family's Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N), for more than half a century.

In doing so, he sought to end the country's status as a client state of the US.

Almost unheard of among recent generations of Pakistani leaders, he stuck to his principles - falling afoul of the US in the process.

Throughout his long period in opposition, he fought a lonely battle against the US's brutal war on terror, condemning drone strikes and standing up for the rule of law.

To his credit, Khan remained a thorn in the flesh of the US once in power. But he has paid the price.

I trace his demise to the fall of Kabul in August 2021, when Khan clashed with Washington over the freezing of Afghan state assets, as well as the American desire for access to Pakistani airspace.

From that moment, his card was marked. Khan had the impertinence to defy the US: the Biden administration's refusal to denounce his imprisonment amounts to complicity.

I love Pakistan, have travelled to this beautiful country many times, and have respect for the Pakistan army and its role in maintaining stability after independence 75 years ago. But it is widely reported to be the architect of Khan's downfall.

Not for the first time, it is allowing itself to be dragged into national politics.

Deceitful claims​

Imran Khan is today the most popular politician in the country. Polls indicate that he would sweep to victory in any free and fair election.

Holding an election in Pakistan without Khan would be like putting on Shakespeare's Hamlet without the prince.

Whoever wins an election without Khan would carry zero political legitimacy, and be despised as the local client ruler, ruling on behalf of the United States.


As for Khan, he has joined the long list of democratically legitimate national leaders who had the temerity to affect the US by striking out with an independent foreign policy.

Mohamed Morsi, Egypt's first democratically elected civilian president, spent his final years in jail before dying in court.

Salvador Allende of Chile dared to win an election that the US wanted him to lose - and was dislodged from office in the most brutal of circumstances.

Ali Bhutto, Pakistan's first democratically elected leader, who challenged the US by building an alliance of non-aligned nations, ended up in a prison where he was judicially murdered.

Mohammad Mosaddegh of Iran. Too many others.

The silence of the US and Britain, both countries which deceitfully claim to believe in democracy, says it all.

www.middleeasteye.net

Imran Khan is exactly what the US hates in a Pakistani politician: principled

Lack of condemnation from the US over Khan's politically motivated imprisonment only confirms Washington's long history of preferring dictators pliable to its interests
www.middleeasteye.net www.middleeasteye.net
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The fact that no one spoke for Kaptaan shows that he only had PKs interests at heart and not the interests of Foreign powers. As for the Americans and the British govt, no one expected anything different, hypocrisy is in their nature.
 
MenInG said:
Last week, the Russian dissident Alexei Navalny was sentenced to 19 years in a penal colony - accused of financing "extremism" and "rehabilitating the Nazi ideology".

Quite rightly, the United States and Britain instantly denounced the move, with the US State Department describing the conviction as "an unjust conclusion to an unjust trial".

Britain's Foreign Secretary James Cleverly claimed the outcome "shows Russia's complete disregard for even the most basic of human rights", piously adding: "Dissent cannot be silenced."

Three days later, Imran Khan - until last year, the democratically elected prime minister of Pakistan - was sentenced to three years' imprisonment, courtesy of what looked like a kangaroo court, under murky circumstances.

These two cases are eerily similar. Few believe the charges laid against Navalny. Yet it is vital for President Vladimir Putin to remove him from the political stage - especially with Russian presidential elections scheduled to be held in March 2024.

Likewise, few believe the corruption charges laid against Khan carry any plausibility. Yet it is vital to get him out of the way ahead of Pakistan's general election, scheduled for this autumn.

There are dark forces which want both men out of the way. Navalny was subject to an attempted poisoning three years ago, while Khan was wounded in an assassination attempt late last year.

Let's spit out the ugly truth. Alexei Navalny and Imran Khan are both political prisoners, held on trumped-up charges by the Russian and Pakistan authorities.

Yet the West is only concerned about the fate of one of them.

Double standards​


US Secretary of State Antony Blinken was swift to condemn the additional jail sentence imposed on Navalny, condemning "Russia's conviction of opposition leader Alexei Navalny on politically motivated charges. The Kremlin cannot silence the truth. Navalny should be released".

No US condemnation of Khan's politically motivated trial.

British Foreign Secretary Cleverly was guilty of the same double standard.

Both Britain and America will be well aware that the charges against Khan - profiteering from official gifts - are flimsy.

In fact, when Khan was in office, he changed the law so that it would be more difficult for politicians to profit from gifts received on foreign visits.

Previously, if an official wanted to retain an item, they were able to purchase it at 20 percent of the value set by the Toshakhana evaluation committee. During his premiership, Khan raised the fee to 50 percent.

Khan is probably the least corrupt politician - admittedly not a high bar - in Pakistan's modern history. He represents a reversion to the early school of post-independence politicians, from the Qaid-i-Azam, Mohammed Ali Jinnah, to the country's first president, Iskandar Mirza, whose integrity was absolute.

None of this matters to the US and Britain, which have always preferred to deal with dictators who are pliable to their interests: Mohammad Ayub Khan, installed in a military coup in 1958; General Mohammad Zia-ul-Haq, who ruled with an iron fist during the 1970s and 80s; and more recently General Pervez Musharraf, who came to power in a bloodless coup in 1999 and served as Pakistan's president from 2001 to 2008.

History proves that the US is structurally hostile to any Pakistani political leader with a democratic mandate.

Lonely battle​

Khan, to his enormous credit, had set out to challenge the deeply corrupt, dynastic two-party system that has dominated Pakistani politics, through the Bhutto family's Pakistan People's Party (PPP) and Sharif family's Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N), for more than half a century.

In doing so, he sought to end the country's status as a client state of the US.

Almost unheard of among recent generations of Pakistani leaders, he stuck to his principles - falling afoul of the US in the process.

Throughout his long period in opposition, he fought a lonely battle against the US's brutal war on terror, condemning drone strikes and standing up for the rule of law.

To his credit, Khan remained a thorn in the flesh of the US once in power. But he has paid the price.

I trace his demise to the fall of Kabul in August 2021, when Khan clashed with Washington over the freezing of Afghan state assets, as well as the American desire for access to Pakistani airspace.

From that moment, his card was marked. Khan had the impertinence to defy the US: the Biden administration's refusal to denounce his imprisonment amounts to complicity.

I love Pakistan, have travelled to this beautiful country many times, and have respect for the Pakistan army and its role in maintaining stability after independence 75 years ago. But it is widely reported to be the architect of Khan's downfall.

Not for the first time, it is allowing itself to be dragged into national politics.

Deceitful claims​

Imran Khan is today the most popular politician in the country. Polls indicate that he would sweep to victory in any free and fair election.

Holding an election in Pakistan without Khan would be like putting on Shakespeare's Hamlet without the prince.

Whoever wins an election without Khan would carry zero political legitimacy, and be despised as the local client ruler, ruling on behalf of the United States.


As for Khan, he has joined the long list of democratically legitimate national leaders who had the temerity to affect the US by striking out with an independent foreign policy.

Mohamed Morsi, Egypt's first democratically elected civilian president, spent his final years in jail before dying in court.

Salvador Allende of Chile dared to win an election that the US wanted him to lose - and was dislodged from office in the most brutal of circumstances.

Ali Bhutto, Pakistan's first democratically elected leader, who challenged the US by building an alliance of non-aligned nations, ended up in a prison where he was judicially murdered.

Mohammad Mosaddegh of Iran. Too many others.

The silence of the US and Britain, both countries which deceitfully claim to believe in democracy, says it all.

www.middleeasteye.net

Imran Khan is exactly what the US hates in a Pakistani politician: principled

Lack of condemnation from the US over Khan's politically motivated imprisonment only confirms Washington's long history of preferring dictators pliable to its interests
www.middleeasteye.net www.middleeasteye.net
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This article accurately sums up.the issue. Khan wasn't even hostile. He was merely wanting an independent foreign policy. The US cannot allow this. But they have sown the seeds for further hatred amongst the people and one day this seed Will grow. I don't think in my lifetime. Maybe my kids or their kids.. but it will happen.
 
The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) has notified the disqualification of former premier and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan for five years and de-seated from NA-45 Kurram-I, ARY News reported on Tuesday.

The election commission declared the former premier and PTI chief Imran Khan ‘disqualified’ for five years under Article 63(1)(h) and de-seated him from NA-45 constituency.

The notification stated that the former premier was found guilty of corrupt practices and faced the penalty of three-year jail and Rs100,000 fine.
 
Unfortunately it's over for PTI, IK is history. The publics placid and passive reactions reflects a sorry state of affairs.

People are a reflection of the government and vice versa
 
A Pakistani high court took up jailed former Prime Minister Imran Khan's appeal on Wednesday against his conviction on corruption charges, his lawyer said.

The 70-year-old Khan has been at the heart of political turmoil since he was ousted as prime minister in a vote of no-confidence last year, raising concern about Pakistan's stability as it grapples with an economic crisis.

He has been barred from holding any public office for five years after he began a three-year sentence on Saturday on charges of unlawfully selling state gifts acquired by him and his family during his 2018-2022 tenure.

"Imran Khan will be freed if his case is heard on merit," his lawyer Naeem Panjutha said.

He said the court had issued notices to concerned authorities to respond, but did not fix a date for the next hearing.

The court is likely to issue written orders later in the day.

Khan, who has denied any wrongdoing, was arrested at his Lahore house and is currently in a prison near Islamabad.

Courtesy: Islamabad Reuters
 
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Rana said:
Yes because you don’t mess with nuclear armed states in their internal matters. The west isn’t as stupid as you may want them to be in this case
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West has owned Pakistan as with other nations.

It will not matter to me personally as I dont live there but the people who do and support corruption and slavery of the west are the ones broke, cant afford to run their motorbike, eat Anda burgers for dinner and struggle on a daily basis.

Its gone past caring for Pakistan and Pakistanis, they need a dose of reality for supporting crooks which will come in the form of poverty. West will be laughing on the floor knowing there are so many Pakistanis who supported the destruction of their own land and now are crying.
 
KingKhanWC said:
It will not matter to me personally as I dont live there but the people who do and support corruption and slavery of the west are the ones broke, cant afford to run their motorbike, eat Anda burgers for dinner and struggle on a daily basis.

Its gone past caring for Pakistan and Pakistanis, they need a dose of reality for supporting crooks which will come in the form of poverty. West will be laughing on the floor knowing there are so many Pakistanis who supported the destruction of their own land and now are crying.
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I’m glad you’ve finally understood that this has nothing to do with people who don’t live in Pakistan. Let those poor souls who eat Anda Burger live their lives in their own country and work it out for themselves.

We are not the ones giving up the luxury of eating McDonalds whenever we feel like it to make it possible for them to do so as well. A good majority of them are happy to live the way they are and Khan also didn’t do anything in his tenure to change it for them.
 
Rana said:
I’m glad you’ve finally understood that this has nothing to do with people who don’t live in Pakistan. Let those poor souls who eat Anda Burger live their lives in their own country and work it out for themselves.

We are not the ones giving up the luxury of eating McDonalds whenever we feel like it to make it possible for them to do so as well. A good majority of them are happy to live the way they are and Khan also didn’t do anything in his tenure to change it for them.
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Are you sure he didnt do anything? Just to name you 2 things- the ehsaas programe and the free health care for the poor were both life changing. Millions to advantage of the free health insurance and millions of operations took place.
www.globalvillagespace.com

Stanford University appreciates PTI’s Ehsaas program

Stanford University has published a paper on how the world can learn from Imran Khan’s poverty alleviation Ehsaas Program
www.globalvillagespace.com www.globalvillagespace.com
 
A bit confused on what exactly he has been arrested on. Is it legal to resell gifts retained in this way by paying a fraction of the gift to retain. Because I can see how a person could retain the gift, and then resell in order to profit. Or did he keep gifts not pay the full amount to retain before selling?

Did he simply not declare profits from the resell? Is this a tax evasion case then?

From both sides it is difficult to find the exact details of the crime that Imran is charged with. Even Imran's legal team, I see that they contest the charges and say Imran's innocent, but I can't see where they pinpoint the actual exact issue.

It would also be interesting to know if previous prime ministers have sold on gifts they have received. And if so, what they did different to not be arrested.

I'm just wondering whether it is possible that Imran Khan is actually guilty, being caught on a technicality. He didn't mean to be corrupt, but didn't properly report the resale of his gifts. Especially if it were the case where other prime ministers may have been more inclined to keep these luxury gifts, whilst Imran who perhaps lives a less lavish life, preferred to get rid of the gifts instead.

Would especially be interesting to hear those who agree with Imran Khan's arrest, on what exact charges Imran has been placed under arrest. I kind of get the feeling that Imran has been caught on a valid minor technicality where he's made a mistake (but not trying to purposely be corrupt), which they've trumped up the sentence up to 3 years. But it's hard to know.
 
Bewal Express said:
Are you sure he didnt do anything? Just to name you 2 things- the ehsaas programe and the free health care for the poor were both life changing. Millions to advantage of the free health insurance and millions of operations took place.
www.globalvillagespace.com

Stanford University appreciates PTI’s Ehsaas program

Stanford University has published a paper on how the world can learn from Imran Khan’s poverty alleviation Ehsaas Program
www.globalvillagespace.com www.globalvillagespace.com
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Well done for whatever good that is perceived he did. Doing good for humanity isn’t a competition of who can do better. Why do you purposely ignore the good others have done for their nation as well, but highlight Khan’s goodness only?

Why this selective appraisal for Khan only?
 
Major said:
Hopefully he does his time now.

BTW, the street power of pti has been puss. Leader arrested again and non of them came out.

All the talk of revolution standing up etc etc :)). Asim munir and Rana sanaullah sey dar gaye
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What did you expect after what happened last time?
Its not easy for the people as well, it shows a lot when folks like you behave the way you do. One of the reasons why Pakistan has failed.
 
Rana said:
Well done for whatever good that is perceived he did. Doing good for humanity isn’t a competition of who can do better. Why do you purposely ignore the good others have done for their nation as well, but highlight Khan’s goodness only?

Why this selective appraisal for Khan only?
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Why don't you sing their virtues. Maybe you can talk about the deflationary aspects of taking billions out of PK to build a sovereign fund for the Sharits and Zardari's in London, NY, Canada etc. Maybe you can talk about the amazing hospitals they couldn't build and have to run to London and Dubai for treatment. Maybe you cqn extol the virtues of money laundering.
 
pakistani pride said:
What did you expect after what happened last time?
Its not easy for the people as well, it shows a lot when folks like you behave the way you do. One of the reasons why Pakistan has failed.
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umm, when zia had ppp leaders arrested and hanged, the fans came out and protested
 
Major said:
umm, when zia had ppp leaders arrested and hanged, the fans came out and protested
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People did come out in May, what happened after that is for all to see. No one dares to take the risk of having your female relatives being captured...

Like I said before, Pakistan is in the state it is due to people like you.
 
Rana said:
I’m glad you’ve finally understood that this has nothing to do with people who don’t live in Pakistan. Let those poor souls who eat Anda Burger live their lives in their own country and work it out for themselves.

We are not the ones giving up the luxury of eating McDonalds whenever we feel like it to make it possible for them to do so as well. A good majority of them are happy to live the way they are and Khan also didn’t do anything in his tenure to change it for them.
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Poor reading. It has to do with me but im not broke riding 100cc bikes eating dodgy street burgers.

Of course supporters of criminals deserve no better but their future generations children prob do.
 
Major said:
umm, when zia had ppp leaders arrested and hanged, the fans came out and protested
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when you corner a rat it comes out biting... it will eat its own offspring to escape. It's 2023, and it's clear the these rats will do anything to survive.
 
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