@Rana nope why are you making it so simple, it’s not us vs them.
Now is not the time to remove those who are not up to the mark in order to bring in, let’s say 3 new spin bowling all rounders.
Find a better option then him, then it'd fine.
That central contract would mean anything if he was actually being selected to play for Pakistan. Because without that it is just a sword hanging over your head that prevents you from earning money and putting food on the table for your family. Imad did what any thinking cricketer that is 35 years old and has limited time on his career would do.
Imad is an average cricketer.
He captained twice and lost both. According to that it's 100% loss record. Not sure why this fact is bothering you. Let's also not forget it was against Australia D as well which you guys mock Babar for scoring runs against.
Coming from the guy who advocates rizwan over usman Khan when both completed within in the same team against the same bowlers.
you seriously judging someone based on 2 games?
I've never actually seen you critise babar. And rizwan you critiqued only once I believe in psl final.
I am talking about captaincy. Anyone with an ounce of knowledge of cricket would have known Babar had the potential to be a Pakistani great at least same with rizwan who is already out greatest wk by a country mile.
You're delusional if you think Babar and rizwan are our best players
.I have critised them on multiple occasions. This bring me to my point again that you can read or choose not to read
I think only until the world cup.
Which is all he really wants I guess
You're delusional if you think Babar and rizwan are our best players
Saud is ironically superior to both by miles, but they play him at no 5 which isn't suited, Saud at 3 would be miles superior to both of them.
Fakhar has played innings Bobby could only dream of, multiple ATG innings, Fakhar's form however declined ever since misbah came back and decided fakhar should be relegated away from the opening position.
Usman Khan in this tournament alone has humiliated rizwan left and right, black and blue, it isn't even funny.
Haris sohail if it wasn't for his injury, would be miles above both of them as well.
Hafeez against d strings ironically is superior to babar as well, hafeez was literally known as the guy who bashes these fodders but against quality bowling is beyond medicore and gets exposed.
Babar and rizwan very convientally vanish against good team in tournaments, this 2024 wc will be a repeat of 2022 wc, and bookmark this comment when that happens.
You'll go go go ga ga over their performances against Canada, USA, Ireland and these minnow nations, but come India or Australia they'll fall like a pack of decks.
Honestly those stats aren't don't matter, I've already debunked the stats argument 10x over.
Can you please answer does Imad have 100% loss as a captain for Pakistan yes or no? It's not difficult. If you read my post again he will be picked let him perform and become a key player than he deserves another shot at captaincy.Do you know what a snake oil salesman is? That's exactly how you come across.
It doesn't bother me. Look I can only explain it to you, I can't understand it for you.
From what I remember you used to get triggered by anyone who would question the validity of them opening for Pakistan, So please cut out the crap.
I supported this opening combination and I even gave them a second chance despite their selfishness in the 2021 WT20 Semi-Final. The 2022 Asia Cup Final was the straw that broke the camel's back. It was at this moment where I could no longer justify this opening combination and I realised serious questions needed to be asked if one or both of them were even making the team on merit. I was proven correct after seeing how they performed during the 2022 WT20. Babar couldn't even score at run a ball in a WT20 tournament! Going by this information, is that blind hate or was it a justified stance based on conclusive evidence?
The truth is I knew both of them were going to fail in the last WT20, just like how I knew it was only a matter of time before Imad was going to be recalled by Pakistan. You're just one step behind and far too delusional to understand this. "Blind hatred".
Yeah, give Sharjeel 10 games without the threat of him being dropped and he will bang a 45 ball ton
Yeah just like the 20 odd chances he had and could only score 2 50s. He's playing ramzan tournament where nobodies are scoring centuries for fun let him do something there. This could be his level. After being dropped from Psl then leading his side to lose all the game at Sindh league while being rubbish. Now another low quality league to try his luck.
You will always be wrong. You should know this by now.
Coming from you. The irony died a 100 times. Let sharjeel do something in ramzan cup as he already flopped in the first game. The chances of sharjeel playing for Pakistan anytime soon are the same as javed miandad coming out of retirement to play for Pakistan.
Yes coming from me. I will tell you again, whatever you say in spite will backfire on you. Again.
What has backfired so far? Imad with a couple of decent performances? Let's not remind you about yours. It will be endless.
Only time rana has ever been proven wrong was about rizwan's performance against Sri Lanka but he was proven right in the next games 5 put of 6 times about rizwan.
Rana can answer himself. He's been embarrassed a million times by rizwan alone. Let's alone anything else.
Was I embarrassed or was I proven correct about him?
I'm not answering for him, I'm just saying he was proven right about rizwan.
Just take the Australia series and revisit your posts it will give you your answer.
So scoring 49 and 46 is a failure for you and in other instances 25 is vital.
Did that 49 lead us to winning that match against India? No
The World Cup 2023 horror show, which was a result of making Rizwan look good is not something I am proud of predicting. Consequently, it is a team that I have loved dearly which has suffered as a result. There is nothing to be proud of when predicting the failure of a player who serves the team you have an affection towards.
Exactly
According to this logic Babar has a match winning 50s in a world cup against England, SA and 100 against NZ and a match winning 46 against India in CT final. Thanks for coming.
Did we win those games?
@Rana has been wrong about Rizwan many many times including in the recent Australian series. Just go back and look at the posts.
Correction. Scoring 49 and 46 having demanded to play in an important batting position (number 4) and deserting your side once set at the crease (even though he is never set at the crease) is indeed a failure, which lead to 2 defeats.
So a performance only counts if you win a game? You know that cricket has 11 players on a team right and even if one performs very well you can still lose the game?
It isn’t horrific anymore, I’ve accepted I am not a fan of this type of Pakistan cricket.
Your hyping up those performances as if it were by a tailender in a losing cause. Shoaib Akhtar scored 47 odd off 13-14 balls against England in 2003, that was a pretty mad innings.
Oh yes
Let me rephrase
Firstly could you provide proof of Rizwan demanding to bat at #4 in Test cricket?
If all of the other batsmen had performed as good as Rizwan we did we would have won a match, it’s that simple.
Exactly we could have won both.
You completely ignored the point and misrepresented the argument. Probably on purpose because you know that what you’re saying makes no sense.
Well, yes. In the case of a team that regularly wins, performances in a losing cause still count as a good performance. For instance, the 160* scored by Ricky Ponting at the Bull ring when setting 434 as a total was a sublime innings, by a great player, an ODI champion player.
Babar's contributions during those games deserve praise. 100%.
That’s exactly the point.
So Babar does have match winning innings against the best. Now change your goal post again.
Get 49 from your keeper who demands to bat at 4???
I didn't, Sachin was ironically the primarily cause of those defeats. He was so milestone obsessed that he would often give strike to someone new at the crease which would slow down the run rate or in some cases let a tail ender finish the final few overs as long as he can get those final runs for his milestone.
Once again, provide proof that he demands to bat at #4?
That’s the standards you have set yourself, as this is the mediocrity you have happily embraced to make Rizwan look good. This isn’t 1990 anymore. Players in this era usually have a 20 run headstart to those who played ODI cricket up to 2010.
That’s not true at all.
Yet Pakistan has never won a Test match in SENA since Rizwan has been playing unquestionably for Pakistan.
Funny how you still have provided 0 proof of him demanding to bat at #4.
Provide proof to you? That’s the purpose of my life?
You need to understand one thing.
. Sane with rizwan, he always expects others to strike for him while he can anchor apprantly even when a batsmen is new and rr is creeping up.Considering how often you make up stories like the one about Rizwan dropping Usman Khan, no one is going to trust what you say without proof.
Bro I respect your efforts to actually engage with these guys seriouslyYou need to understand one thing.
RIZWAN PLAYS FOR HIMSELF ONLY, HES NOT A TEAM PLAYER.
he deliberately asked inad waseem to take a run for his 100 which he didn't even get despite imad striking multiple boundaries in the last over.
In the final in asia cup 2022, Sri Lanka started of with 11 widesz you had 11 runs on the board brining the target down to 157 before the first ball was even bowled and despite a decent score for the scorecards by rizwan, we were left in a situation where we had to get 60 of 24 lol.
Not everyone has to equally pull their weight up all the time just to accommodate rizwan.
An inform batsmen set at the crease should logically be taking strike, or if tail enders come in, the inform batsmen should be trying to occupy as much as possible.
How many times has babar just given strike to tail enders during a collapse
You can't have everyone equally pull your weight 24/7, otherwise we should bash everyone besides maxwell during the Afghanistan game.
Believe what you want.
You got caught in another lie just like the MS story so now you’re talking like a philosopher.
You're not suppose to have everyone pull their weight equally 24/7,
Sachin is way better than Kohli in Test cricket. The only reason he didn’t win more matches than Kohli is because Kohli plays with a stacked batting lineup and the best bowling attack India has ever had.
If that’s how you perceive it to be, I can’t help you.
He verbatim has an interview stating "I'm not happy batting at no 5, I want no 4, and even another interview stating that he clearly wants to open and will only step down from opening if theirs a specific reason provided by pcb management to do so."
, simply deducing it would be easy enough to do lol.So once again you have zero proof but you are "deducing" this. Also, you're once again mixing formats, because the #4 discussion was in relation to ODI. Rizwan already bats at #6 in Test cricket.
This is such a horrible analogy. The evidence would be that was found in the 3rd room with a dead victim. That is evidence.
Why are you trying to be his guardian? The reason why I asked Rana for proof is because he has been caught badly lying about Rizwan many times in the past. The most recent example is when Usman Khan left to UAE for personal reasons and had to miss game. Rana was all over the thread stating that Rizwan had dropped him because he felt threatened by his performances. This was pretty embarrassing because it already had been announced that Usman Khan left for personal reasons but Rana had not checked so he already made up the lie about Usman Khan being dropped.You asking @Rana is like asking him to prove if he's married, he doesn't need you to show you his marriage certificate for full proof
This is exhausting.
Oh yes it's just rizwan's fault not the other 10 players.
