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India [303/6] beat South Africa [179] by 124 runs in the 3rd ODI to take 3-0 series lead

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India (From): Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Virat Kohli(c), Ajinkya Rahane, MS Dhoni(w), Kedar Jadhav, Hardik Pandya, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Kuldeep Yadav, Yuzvendra Chahal, Jasprit Bumrah, Manish Pandey, Dinesh Karthik, Shreyas Iyer, Axar Patel, Mohammed Shami, Shardul Thakur

South Africa (From): Hashim Amla, Heinrich Klaasen(w), Aiden Markram(c), Jean-Paul Duminy, David Miller, Khaya Zondo, Chris Morris, Kagiso Rabada, Morne Morkel, Imran Tahir, Tabraiz Shamsi, Andile Phehlukwayo, Lungisani Ngidi, Farhaan Behardien
 
This might be the first time people are looking at South African team as underdogs. This will be good for them though, just need to bag Virat Kohli early and play out the spinners well.

Easier said than done though.

Amla has to bat long. He is the key to South African fortunes.
 
South Africa will be fielding first after winning the toss. ODI debuts for Heinrich Klaasen and Lungi Ngidi. Meanwhile, the visitors are unchanged. The hosts must win this game to keep their hopes of winning this series alive.
 
Why SAF should bowl first in D/N at Cape Town? Along with spinners, this brings the Indian seemers in the game as well.
 
Why SAF should bowl first in D/N at Cape Town? Along with spinners, this brings the Indian seemers in the game as well.

I think Markram is not allowing India to chase. I personally think its poor decision too. Kohli said it after toss that he was looking to Bat first anyways, so India not always looking to chase.
 
Just trying to make sure Kohli doesn't play a match chasing inning again.
 
4 black players in the playing 11 for South Africa.

First time this has happened?
 
Oh look.

India has seven members of its first choice Test team playing.

South Africa has only two.

You’d think maybe South Africa has bigger fish to fry in the coming weeks.......
 
Oh look.

India has seven members of its first choice Test team playing.

South Africa has only two.

You’d think maybe South Africa has bigger fish to fry in the coming weeks.......


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Why aren't they resting Rabada for Australia series?
 
Oh look.

India has seven members of its first choice Test team playing.

South Africa has only two.

You’d think maybe South Africa has bigger fish to fry in the coming weeks.......

No, I think before thinking of AUS, SAF needs to save a$$ from a 6-0 and they have taken desperate calls here. Also, in any case IND has 7/8 common players in Test & ODI - SAF has few LO specialist like JP, Miller, Tahir....
 
Sharma having nightmares in South Africa.. Not an ODI ATG as some were suggesting after the Lankan bashing.
 
Oh look.

India has seven members of its first choice Test team playing.

South Africa has only two.

You’d think maybe South Africa has bigger fish to fry in the coming weeks.......

Three

Why aren't they resting Rabada for Australia series?
Yes, you’re right.

Rabada is only bowling 30 overs per week, I don’t think his workload is excessive given that he is a very young, very fit guy.

In First Class cricket he’d be bowling 50-60 overs per week.
 
No, I think before thinking of AUS, SAF needs to save a$$ from a 6-0 and they have taken desperate calls here. Also, in any case IND has 7/8 common players in Test & ODI - SAF has few LO specialist like JP, Miller, Tahir....
All five Afrikaaners in the Test team (FAF, AB, De Kock, Steyn and Morkel) are currently being rested to be ready for the Australia series.
 
It's unthinkable in Asia that a kid, making debut 4 months back would lead ODI team. It should be eye openers for PP, who thinks you need 10 years cricket experience and few years as domestic Captain to be considered for Captaincy. Cricket captaincy is about character & obviously capability to lead from the front.
 
All five Afrikaaners in the Test team (FAF, AB, De Kock, Steyn and Morkel) are currently being rested to be ready for the Australia series.

I thought 4 of them are injured ....
 
My first assessment is that Ngidi is not an ODI bowler.
 
JP has played 182 tests. Cant really explain how the hell he did managed to play that much. It is higher than Amla and only fewer to ABD.
 
Ngidi averages 39 in domestic List A cricket, but one good Test spell has seen him selected for the SA ODI side. Good to see that PCB is not alone in making awful selection decisions.
 
Steyn last odi in 2016

they are obviously missing AB de Villiers will back for remaining matches

de Kock injury was blessing in disguise he was in terrible form ,,even SA commentators were in favor of resting Q de Kock after 2nd odi
 
Oh look.

India has seven members of its first choice Test team playing.

South Africa has only two.

You’d think maybe South Africa has bigger fish to fry in the coming weeks.......
Maybe you asking for Test match first teamers to be an automatic selection for ODIs is why your understanding of limited overs cricket is so poor.
 
Ok I don't understand the logic of cricketing rules sometimes.

Here Kohli was given out LBW but completed a run before reviewing the decision. The decision was overturned but Kohli returned to the striker's end as the subsequent play was deemed dead as soon as the umpire raised his finger.

Now if the decision has been overturned, it means the onfield call was incorrect and that a run was taken which should've been credited to Kohli and India but it wasn't. Why not?? Imagine a situation where 1 run is needed off the last ball for victory and Kohli was adjudged LBW but he managed to complete a run. If the decision was overturned upon review, will India not be granted victory simply because the play was dead when the umpire raised his finger (incorrectly i.e.)???
 
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Ok I don't understand the logic of cricketing rules sometimes.

Here Kohli was given out LBW but completed a run before reviewing the decision. The decision was overturned but Kohli returned to the striker's end as the subsequent play was deemed dead as soon as the umpire raised his finger.

Now if the decision has been overturned, it means the onfield call was incorrect and that a run was taken which should've been credited to Kohli and India but it wasn't. Why not?? Imagine a situation where 1 run is needed off the last ball for victory and Kohli was adjudged LBW but he managed to complete a run. If the decision was overturned upon review, will India not be granted victory simply because the play was dead when the umpire raised his finger (incorrectly i.e.)???

I raised the same question for a Leg By 4 (Given LWB, then over turned by DRS) - only solution is take DRS out of players' option. If Umpire isn't sure - he'll consult with 3rd umpire and that's final decision.
 
JP has played 182 tests. Cant really explain how the hell he did managed to play that much. It is higher than Amla and only fewer to ABD.

Amla was not much of an ODI batsman until 2010ish when he had an amazing purple patch. Duminy has been in the team since 2004(same as AB) and was a very good LOI player until a couple of years ago.
 
Apparently those are only minor injuries and they are really preparing for Australia according to bawss Junaids :srini

+ the rest of the players are already playing for IPL franchisees instead of South Africa
 
JP has played 182 tests. Cant really explain how the hell he did managed to play that much. It is higher than Amla and only fewer to ABD.

182 ODIs. You really made me look at career stats lol. Though i knew it can’t be 182 tests.
 
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SAF is facing a 100+ defeat here - why would you bowl first in a D/N game at Newlands under scorching sun and your batsmen are being schooled against wrist spin?
 
Nah. not a 300 pitch. Anything around 280 should be a decent score. Above 300, it starts becoming a match winning score.

agree but only rabada is the threat. phelokwayo, ngidi and morris are weak. tahir has never been a threat against india
 
What is the purpose of Phekwayo. Can not bat and ball. Probably the worse cricketer SA have produced
 
182 ODIs. You really made me look at career stats lol. Though i knew it can’t be 182 tests.

LOL..Anyways, you knew what I meant. 182 odis are still too much for a guy who has hardly been successful in his career.
 
Amla was not much of an ODI batsman until 2010ish when he had an amazing purple patch. Duminy has been in the team since 2004(same as AB) and was a very good LOI player until a couple of years ago.

He average 37 in odis which includes batting averages like

151 vs Ireland
100 vs Kenya
190 vs Netherland
94 vs Zimbabwe

So, you can understand the situation. He has done absolutely nothing in his career apart from some biggish-level of minnow bashing. If you look at his performances over career, I am sure you won't be able to find more than 3-4 good( not even great) knocks over a course of 170-175 games(excluding minnows).
 
He average 37 in odis which includes batting averages like

151 vs Ireland
100 vs Kenya
190 vs Netherland
94 vs Zimbabwe

So, you can understand the situation. He has done absolutely nothing in his career apart from some biggish-level of minnow bashing. If you look at his performances over career, I am sure you won't be able to find more than 3-4 good( not even great) knocks over a course of 170-175 games(excluding minnows).

At the time, he probably still was the best of the non white players i guess.
 
This can get ugly for SA. Either Imran Tahir is going to win them the game or his 10 overs are going to cost 80 +.
 
I think Markram is not allowing India to chase. I personally think its poor decision too. Kohli said it after toss that he was looking to Bat first anyways, so India not always looking to chase.

Case is reversed from Test Series to ODI Series. Kohli was a poor decision maker in Tests and its South African captain's turn this time!
 
At the time, he probably still was the best of the non white players i guess.

Dont think so but he is the worst player to have played that many odi in history of odi cricket.

<B>Not even a single knock in his career where he has scored the highest run from both the team excluding minnows</B>. That is what he has done in his career. Dont think he has won any odi match for his team excluding minnows either.
 
shikar Dhawan is so underrated avg of 46 with strike rate of 93

( including avg of over 40 in Aus, England and SA)

Top performer in all iCC events
 
At the time, he probably still was the best of the non white players i guess.

Rubbish. Amla(dont know if it counts),Rabada, Tahir are so far ahead that its not even funny.

Phehlukwayo would surpass him in few matches. JP looked to be a good talent in his early days but after that sucked and continued sucking.
 
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I think Markram is not allowing India to chase. I personally think its poor decision too. Kohli said it after toss that he was looking to Bat first anyways, so India not always looking to chase.

ya

Markram at toss : India are good chasing side we would like to bowl first
 
This is easily 320 plus with the kind of crap bowling SA has. Why would you drop Morkel for Ngidi. As I predicted SA will lose 6-0 . For some reason, there bowling just does not have the bite in LOI.

Still can’t understand what do SA see in phelokwayo
 
This is easily 320 plus with the kind of crap bowling SA has. Why would you drop Morkel for Ngidi. As I predicted SA will lose 6-0 . For some reason, there bowling just does not have the bite in LOI.

Still can’t understand what do SA see in phelokwayo

According to an "English" fan on PP, to win the test series against Australia!
 
This is easily 320 plus with the kind of crap bowling SA has. Why would you drop Morkel for Ngidi. As I predicted SA will lose 6-0 . For some reason, there bowling just does not have the bite in LOI.

Still can’t understand what do SA see in phelokwayo


Have u been following this series? Morkel was quite ordinary in the first two matches and bowled lots of short pitch deliveries. SA Management did the right thing by replacing him with ngidi who bowled quite well against India in the test series. But sadly, ngidi is bowling rubbish today.
 
Ok I don't understand the logic of cricketing rules sometimes.

Here Kohli was given out LBW but completed a run before reviewing the decision. The decision was overturned but Kohli returned to the striker's end as the subsequent play was deemed dead as soon as the umpire raised his finger.

Now if the decision has been overturned, it means the onfield call was incorrect and that a run was taken which should've been credited to Kohli and India but it wasn't. Why not?? Imagine a situation where 1 run is needed off the last ball for victory and Kohli was adjudged LBW but he managed to complete a run. If the decision was overturned upon review, will India not be granted victory simply because the play was dead when the umpire raised his finger (incorrectly i.e.)???

So if a team needs a run or 2 off the last ball and they appeal and the umpire gives it out lbw when the ball has not hit the pads at all and gone off the bat to the boundary. They lose no matter what the DRS says. Insane.
 
Dont think so but he is the worst player to have played that many odi in history of odi cricket.

<B>Not even a single knock in his career where he has scored the highest run from both the team excluding minnows</B>. That is what he has done in his career. Dont think he has won any odi match for his team excluding minnows either.

And he strikes!!!
 
SA these days don't have good ODI bowling line up. Tahir is their go to bowler. If opposition can handle him they have nowhere to go.
 
SA these days don't have good ODI bowling line up. Tahir is their go to bowler. If opposition can handle him they have nowhere to go.

South Africa were invincible in the past when they had set of alrounders in their team. Even the spinners used to be alrounders and they were floating their batting lineup like anything!
 
Time for SA to expose India's weak middle order and get them under 260.
 
It is genuinely astonishing that rahane is a mumbai player, unable to even handle duminy on SA pitches:facepalm:
 
Should have really sent Kedar Jadhav to see what he can do! Why Pandya? To capitalize on spinners? India needs to think beyond that.....
 
Everyone's "favorite" player Pandya has come to the crease. I bet he has been sent to "tackle" the spinners.
 
All five Afrikaaners in the Test team (FAF, AB, De Kock, Steyn and Morkel) are currently being rested to be ready for the Australia series.

When your trolling starts resulting in (hopefully) unintended, uncomfortable racial undertones, it might be best to stop.

You managed to bait a lot of people in the other thread, would be nice if you limit your nonsense to that thread alone.
 
And JP misses the throw.Such a useless cricketer. Pandya was gone by a distance.
 
This nonsense with pandya at 4 is getting on my nerves, if dhoni isn't coming in at 4 what is he doing in the team?
 
Rubbish. Amla(dont know if it counts),Rabada, Tahir are so far ahead that its not even funny.

Phehlukwayo would surpass him in few matches. JP looked to be a good talent in his early days but after that sucked and continued sucking.

I meant from 2004-2010 or thereabouts. i already made it clear that Amla was a top ODI bat by 2010.
 
Our batting really is heavily Kohli dependent. Dhawan steps up in tournaments so its not an issue but atm, you could replace the rest of the top 7, that's how shoddy it is.
 
All five Afrikaaners in the Test team (FAF, AB, De Kock, Steyn and Morkel) are currently being rested to be ready for the Australia series.

Wow you have now managed to be racist and stupid at the same time, that's an upgrade from just stupid that you normally do.
 
Too early for him. Rather have him post WC-19

He needs to mingle with bigger and better players. Not far inferior players. Yuvraj singh score 82 against mighty Aussies at the age of 18. Not sure why he should be delayed.
 
I meant from 2004-2010 or thereabouts. i already made it clear that Amla was a top ODI bat by 2010.

Brother, this is 2018. 2010 was gone long back.I am sure even you won't recall anything worth mentioning by JP from a lomg time in 50-over game.
 
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