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Palti_hit said:
And Pakistan are known as bad chasers regardless of grade.. :misbah
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You can lose a game straight off the bat if you aren't a great batting side but you give your batsmen confidence if you restrict the opposition to a decent total.
 
Huge over for Pak U23. 17 runs from it! Perhaps Baba isn't possessed anymore. #EmergingTeamsCup
 
31 run partnership from the 10th wicket. The resistance continues. 138/9 after 44 overs. #EmergingTeamsCup
 
Kiwi said:
You can lose a game straight off the bat if you aren't a great batting side but you give your batsmen confidence if you restrict the opposition to a decent total.
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We have already seen how they chased against the Lankans, the thing is, a hint of pressure and their batting collapse like cards.. Batting first will at least give that hope that you can still save the match through bowling in which they are great but a collapse while chasing and match over.
 
Advantage India but lets not forget this India batting couldn't chase under 200 against Afghanistan. So if Adil/Qadir can take us to around 180, there is still a chance.
 
Back to back boundaries for Usman Qadir. He's leading the 10th wicket charge really well. But will it be enough? #EmergingTeamsCup
 
Professor said:
Advantage India but lets not forget this India batting couldn't chase under 200 against Afghanistan. So if Adil/Qadir can take us to around 180, there is still a chance.
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true. they also struggled against UAE bowling..let's hope this pair can add a few more and then we can have a cracker..:gul
 
46.4
Sandeep Sharma to Ehsan Adil, 3 runs, full on the pads, goes back and flicks it towards fine leg

Ehsan Tendulker:14:
 
That awkward moment when your second highest partnership is from tailenders at #10 and #11

These guys score 52 runs...
 
52 run partnership is broken and the resistance ends. Pak U23 all out for 159. Should be an easy chase but you never know. #EmergingTeamsCup
 
here we go again, play well through out the tournament and flop badly in the final. Pakistan at their best.
 
I still think we have a chance, just need to get Chand(or whatever his name is) early
 
160 is not a bad total.

Afghanistan almost defended 140 against Pakistan. So if the believe is there and they bowl well, anything can happen.
 
yup i did follow the games apart from the Afghanistan game pakistan didn't do too bad with the bat.
 
25 runs too many given the situation Pakistan were in. 160 is a fighting total on this pitch, take out our openers and the middle order will most likely crumble.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I don't know what makes you say that so confidently.

Its NOT like India thrashed other teams when chasing similar totals.
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India will be slow in the first 20 overs scoring about 70-80 runs then scoring 30 in the next 10 but I see them finishing off the last 60 runs quickly.
 
Raza Hasan, Usman Qadir, Mohammad Nawaz 30 overs of quality spin on this track. Is not going to be easy
 
Pakistan just need to bowl in the right areas and the ball will di the rest. The 20 overs of Raza and Usman will be really crucial.
 
Open the bowling with Raza and Bilawal, and bring Qadir as 1st change. Then bowl Nawaz and Babar in tandem.

Come on Pakistan - you can do it!
 
although im disappointed with the batting im still confident that our bowling will inshallah win it for us, watch out for Raza Hasan and Mohammed Nawaz
 
mastermind_quad said:
As per cricinfo its a good batting wicket.
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Pakistan U-23s rather self-destructed from 88 for 2 and have somewhat saved by that last-wicket stand of 52. It remains a good track for batting on, better than at the start of the tournament when heavy rains had fallen just before the start of the event, making strokeplay difficult. Pakistan U-23 almost defended 191 then, things rather more in favour of India U-23 this time. The Indians starting their innings, in just a few minutes.
 
Chand and Rahul showing how good of a pitch this was scoring 150 on this pitch is well below par and farcical. :kallis
 
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That's lunch.

Pakistan need 9 wickets and India need 122 runs at a run rate of 2.83.
 
Kiwi said:
Not trolling when I say this but I think BK is a better prospect than all 3 with Irfan being the exception in ODI's.
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BK is good for ODIs only due to 2 new ball rule

Junaid much better prospect if you consider all formats

Irfan also better than guys like YAdav, shami ahmed and Ishant...


Gul is a proven LOI performer much better than All Indian bowles bar BK

AS a complete package Pakistan Pace attack>> Indian PAce attack, though difference isnt as big as it was in yesteryears...
 
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hur rizvi said:
BK is good for ODIs only due to 2 new ball rule

Junaid much better prospect if you consider all formats

Irfan also better than guys like YAdav, shami ahmed and Irfan...


Gul is a proven LOI performer much better than All Indian bowles bar BK

AS a complete package Pakistan Pace attack>> Indian PAce attack, though difference isnt as big as it was in yesteryears...
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Junaid was found out in SA, I expect BK to do much better in SA. It's what you do against the best that counts and not against SC teams who couldn't care less about test cricket. Despite his poor test average, I think BK did quite well against Australia and picked up some big wickets with the new ball and that's what you expect from your new ball bowlers. The thing is through the younger grades India are getting some decent bowlers who can support their world class batsmen. Pakistan aren't producing any more quality bowlers who can hide their batsmens decencies, I see India dominating Pakistan in all formats for the next 10 years because of this.
 
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Just curious do Indian fans even get worried any more when facing Pakistan in a KO game?
 
Kiwi said:
Just curious do Indian fans even get worried any more when facing Pakistan in a KO game?
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Nope..at least its easier than teams like Australia and england
Also this u 23 cup is not for winning or losing but to gain experience so I guess I'm not worried at all
 
Kiwi said:
Just curious do Indian fans even get worried any more when facing Pakistan in a KO game?
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I don't think they are worried but inside themselves they know that pakistan can come up With some serious magical spells out of nowhere so they can't be totally relaxed.

But when you take a look at the history they shouldn't be worried at all actually.:manzoor
 
Kiwi said:
Junaid was found out in SA, I expect BK to do much better in SA. It's what you do against the best that counts and not against SC teams who couldn't care less about test cricket. Despite his poor test average, I think BK did quite well against Australia and picked up some big wickets with the new ball and that's what you expect from your new ball bowlers.
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Got found out??

Played only one test match, and bowled pretty well in 1st innings , by 2nd innings we had already lost the match courtesy 49 all-out, he got injured in other two matches, so basically you are basing your opinion on 1 innings :facepalm: , Junaid did decently in ODIs

BK didnt do well against Aussies, he averaged in high 30's which is pretty average, Junaid's average is less than 30 in similar conditions, in tests being one trick poney doesnt work, to succeed in tests on e should know how to take wickets with old ball

IF a test series takes place between India and Pakistan, PAkistan can beat them coz of Quality spin attack and decent test batting
 
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Why... Whyy... Why...??? We always tend to do this Bad against Ind.. even after the pitch was in favour of the batsman.....:facepalm:
 
hur rizvi said:
Got found out??

Played only one test match, and bowled pretty well in 1st innings , by 2nd innings we had already lost the match courtesy 49 all-out, he got injured in other two matches, so basically you are basing your opinion on 1 innings :facepalm: , Junaid did decently in ODIs

BK didnt do well against Aussies, he averaged in high 30's which is pretty average, Junaid's average is less than 30 in similar conditions, in tests being one trick poney doesnt work, to succeed in tests on e should know how to take wickets with old ball
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Trust me if you've seen the two bowl you'll know BK is the better prospect. Junaid is just heavily over rated on PP he is no where near the best bowlers in the world like some make him out to be.

Pakistan cricket is at a cross roads, they no longer have the bowlers or magic to win games against the top teams.
 
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Disappointed with chand. I haven't seen Rahul bat, but I have heard a lot about him and people in Bangalore call him Rahul dravid -2. Rahul dravid himself have taken so much interest in his growth. Exciting prospect..
 
Kiwi said:
Trust me if you've seen the two bowl you'll know BK is the better prospect. Junaid is just heavily over rated on PP he is no where near the best bowlers in the world like some make him out to be.
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Let's agree to dis-agree here :P

I have seen both of them bowl and dont beleive BK is better prospect if you consider all three formats...

In ODIs though BK is a better bowler in first 15 overs, in next 35 overs i would take Junaid ahead of BK every day of the week

Junaid is a very good young prospect and he deserves all the hype he gets, Among young bowlers in the world he's one of the best
 
Kiwi said:
Junaid was found out in SA, I expect BK to do much better in SA. It's what you do against the best that counts and not against SC teams who couldn't care less about test cricket. Despite his poor test average, I think BK did quite well against Australia and picked up some big wickets with the new ball and that's what you expect from your new ball bowlers. The thing is through the younger grades India are getting some decent bowlers who can support their world class batsmen. Pakistan aren't producing any more quality bowlers who can hide their batsmens decencies, I see India dominating Pakistan in all formats for the next 10 years because of this.
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What a load of tatti.

And SA is a much stronger team then AUS atm. Especially Aus in India and SA in SA.
 
Kiwi said:
Just curious do Indian fans even get worried any more when facing Pakistan in a KO game?
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In age group cricket, across the years, most of Ind-Pak matches have been very closely fought irrespective of how many runs side batting first has scored.

I expect Pakistan to fight back even in this match with only 122 more needed by us.
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
What a load of tatti.

And SA is a much stronger team then AUS atm. Especially Aus in India and SA in SA.
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I actually see BK troubling SA batsmen he's lethal with the new ball and can nick 2-3 off early, after that he's useless but he can still do some damage early on.
 
Kiwi said:
Trust me if you've seen the two bowl you'll know BK is the better prospect. Junaid is just heavily over rated on PP he is no where near the best bowlers in the world like some make him out to be.

Pakistan cricket is at a cross roads, they no longer have the bowlers or magic to win games against the top teams.
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Ajmal, Junaid and IRfan have all done decently against Top teams, they do lack that magic to run through teams but together still one of the best LOI attacks in the world
 
Let's stop junaid vs bk when they both are not playing
Time will tell how they both do...hopefully both win lots of matches for their respective countries
 
cricketindiafan said:
In age group cricket, across the years, most of Ind-Pak matches have been very closely fought irrespective of how many runs side batting first has scored.

I expect Pakistan to fight back even in this match with only 122 more needed by us.
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I wouldn't hold my breath Pakistan's bowlers aren't that good.
 
hur rizvi said:
Ajmal, Junaid and IRfan have all done decently against Top teams, they do lack that magic to run through teams but together still one of the best LOI attacks in the world
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As of right now I'd say England, India and possibly Australia have the better bowling attacks.
 
Kiwi said:
I actually see BK troubling SA batsmen he's lethal with the new ball and can nick 2-3 off early, after that he's useless but he can still do some damage early on.
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In test matches, you are useless if you cant pose threat through out the day...

20 overs of new ball can be dealt with by leaving the ball, by Quality players like S.A. top order
 
hur rizvi said:
In test matches, you are useless if you cant pose threat through out the day...

20 overs of new ball can be dealt with by leaving the ball, by Quality players like S.A. top order
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That doesn't matter if you have the opposition 3-4 down for under 20 in your first spell.
 
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